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Janna Shaik grew up in a deeply religious Muslim family in India and says he once opposed Christianity and burned Christian materials before an encounter with Jesus changed the direction of his life. In this interview, Janna shares his journey from Muslim imam to Christian pastor, the opposition he says he has faced for his faith, and why he continues preaching the gospel across India.

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00:00There was a time when I believed, if I live, I must live for Allah.
00:05If I kill, I must kill for Allah.
00:07The man who once burned the Bible, is now carrying the Bible.
00:11I prayed, Jesus, if you are really the true God of this world, let me hear my mother's wife.
00:17At exactly 9 in the morning, I heard my mother's wife.
00:20200 people came to kill me, brother.
00:22They brought knives.
00:24Me and my family, we escaped from that place.
00:26If I live, I will live for Jesus.
00:28Until my last breath.
00:29Alright, I'm here with Sheikh Jana.
00:31Brother, it is a pleasure to have you.
00:33I'm excited for you to share your testimony.
00:35So you're from India, and you converted from being a Muslim to Christianity.
00:40And you're now a pastor, so I'm excited to just get into the story, how it happened, and what the
00:47Lord has been doing in your life.
00:48First of all, before that, brother, I just want to introduce myself.
00:52My name is Jana Sheikh, and I'm a pastor from India.
00:55I was born into a deeply religious Islamic family.
00:59But by the grace of God, my life was transformed.
01:03And today, I have been, became a bold preacher, proclaiming the gospel across India.
01:09Come on.
01:10So before that, I just want to greet you, brother, Cliff.
01:14I truly appreciate what you're doing in the USA for God's kingdom.
01:17I deeply admire your passion for your country.
01:20And even more, your burden for people and for the souls was amazing.
01:27And your mission and dedication have inspired me very greatly.
01:32May God continue to strengthen you, use you mightily for his kingdom.
01:38Yes, thank you.
01:38Amen.
01:39Yes, brother.
01:41Well, yeah, I appreciate it, man.
01:44And like I said, I'm excited to hear your story.
01:46And the fact that you're saying, like, you're just bold for the gospel of Jesus Christ from coming from a
01:51Muslim background already.
01:52It's like, it just gets me fired up, man.
01:54So thank you.
01:55Thank you again for coming on.
01:55But yeah, tell us, tell us the story, man.
01:58Yes, brother.
01:58My name is Sheikh Jana.
02:00The name Jana means paradise.
02:02I have one older brother and one elder sister, and I'm the youngest in my family.
02:08I come from Dumeru village in Kovuru, Mandalam, Andhra Pradesh, India.
02:12So my family was among the first family in our community to establish the mosque.
02:18You know, right, the mosque.
02:19So my maternal grandfather was an imam, a prayer leader in the mosque.
02:24He brought many Muslim families together, established a mosque, taught people how to pray.
02:31And taught the Islamic faith and the message of Allah to many peoples.
02:36So my life and my upbringing began very closely with my grandfather.
02:43But my childhood and my life in Islam is very, very, like, terrific.
02:50From a very young age, I was deeply involved in Islam.
02:54But as I grew up, as I grew up, I became very angry and aggressive person.
03:02I had very little love for people.
03:04I would get into fights, threaten people, and sometimes even beat people.
03:10The thinking that I had been planted in my heart, I used to be like, I used to say that
03:17when I used to be Islam, if I live, I must live for Allah.
03:21If I die, if I kill, I must kill for Allah.
03:26So that kind of root was planted in my heart.
03:29So when I heard anyone is preaching about Jesus Christ, I would immediately become angry.
03:37And once upon a time, it happened in my life.
03:40So when I finished my fazar namaz in the early morning, I was walking on the road.
03:45And one day, a pastor and his team were going from house to house, distributing Christian literatures.
03:56When I saw them, I became extremely angry.
03:58I thought I had to do something about this pastor.
04:02I called some of my Islamic Muslim friends.
04:07We confronted the pastor and threatened him and took all the Christian pamphlets from him and brought them home.
04:16There were nearly 2,000 Christian Bibles, related pamphlets and materials.
04:22I burned them.
04:23When I burned them, I used to say that,
04:25Allah is the only God to all over the world.
04:30As they watched them, I burned them and I shouted,
04:33there is no God, but Allah is a true God.
04:38That was how I strongly hated Christianity at the time.
04:42I never imagined that one day I would become a follower of Jesus Christ.
04:49So that was the person I was before I encountered with Jesus.
04:54So my father was a man who prayed,
04:57but later he became deeply addicted to the alcohol.
05:00My mother was a daughter of an imam and she had made many sacrifices for our family, for Allah.
05:07One day, because of our difficult situation,
05:09my mother went to her father, like my grandpa,
05:12and said,
05:13Father, how long can my children and I continue depending on you?
05:20My husband is struggling with alcohol and he is not thinking about the future of our children.
05:26I have decided to go to Kuwait, find work and support for my family.
05:31And I want to educate my son, Jana, and give my children a future.
05:36And of course, my grandfather told to my mom,
05:39Hey, go, I will not stop you.
05:41But before you leave, you must arrange the marriages of your children.
05:46So my elder sister was brought back from Nandiyala,
05:49where she had been involved in a teaching of the Quran to the children.
05:53And she's a professor.
05:54I mean, she's a lecturer.
05:56And she was married at a young age.
05:58After that, my mother went to Kuwait to work.
06:01I remained in India with my grandfather.
06:04So my life as a young boy, my life was extremely difficult, brother.
06:08Seriously.
06:08I would wake up early in the morning and I go to Fazar Namaz.
06:12Then from around 8 a.m. in the morning until 6 p.m. in the evening,
06:16I worked as a mechanic, like a bike mechanic in my uncle's Jani shop.
06:20From 6 to 8 p.m. in the evening, I used to attend a private school to study.
06:26After prayer, from around 8 at night until midnight,
06:30I washed the plates in the hotels in our village.
06:33This is what my life is.
06:36We were a very poor family.
06:37But at the time, I did not complain.
06:41But my whole world was Allah.
06:44I thought sometimes my position is Allah.
06:46My strength is Allah.
06:48My work is for Allah.
06:49My identity is for Allah.
06:51That is what the way I lived, brother.
06:54So one day, my grandfather became serious.
06:56Seriously, he was sick.
06:58He couldn't hardly speak or move.
07:00I would go to him and pray and read the Quran.
07:05Alhamdulillah.
07:09You know, when people are sick, when people are sleeping,
07:13when people are ill, we have to say the kalima.
07:16So my grandfather is an imam.
07:19And I also became like a small imam, like, you know, like imam's grandson.
07:24So one afternoon after a prayer in the evening, I was wearing my prayer cap.
07:30When I entered the room, I saw my grandfather lying on the bed.
07:35His mouth had moved to one side and there was a blood coming from his mouth.
07:40I became very frightened.
07:43You know, like, I didn't know, I did not know whom to call.
07:47At the time, we did not have proper mobile phones.
07:50My mother had already been in Kuwait for about three years.
07:54I took the coin from my grandfather's pocket and I went to the public telephone booth.
07:58I called my aunties.
08:00They came and took my grandfather to the hospital.
08:02And Ramadan, in the middle of the time, Ramadan came.
08:06I fasted.
08:07I attended to Tarabi Namask prayers and spent more time studying in the Quran.
08:12When Ramadan ended, my grandfather was brought home from the hospital in ambulance.
08:17He was between life and death.
08:19He was lying on the bed.
08:20I went, I went near to him and asked her what happened.
08:24One of my aunt told me that he may not survive.
08:27I said, don't be afraid.
08:28I'm reading the Kalima.
08:30I'm praying to Allah.
08:32Allah gonna, you know, make him, make him stronger.
08:36But my grandfather wanted to see his youngest daughter like my mother.
08:40My mother had left us with the telephone number of an Arab employer before she went to Kuwait.
08:47I went to an STD telephone booth and I called that number.
08:51At the first, my mother did not answer.
08:53Someone else answered the phone.
08:55Eventually, they gave the phone to my mother.
09:00Then I heard her wife.
09:01She asked her, son, why do you call?
09:03How are you?
09:05Everything is okay?
09:06And then I told her, mother, your father is dying.
09:08He wants to see you.
09:10Please come to India quickly.
09:11Then my mother began to cry.
09:14You know, she said she would pray and call me back.
09:17Later, she called me again and said, I will send money.
09:19Take my father to bigger hospital.
09:23But I told her, mother, even if you send all your money from your employee, if you took any money
09:30from your employee, I don't think he will survive.
09:32I returned home.
09:33I told to my mom, I returned home.
09:35I told my grandfather, mother is coming.
09:38As soon as he heard those words, my grandfather died.
09:44I called my mother and told her, your father has died.
09:48But she did not answer.
09:49I called her again and again and again.
09:52I called perhaps 20 times.
09:54There was no answer.
09:56I was devastated.
09:57I had lost my grandfather.
09:59I was crying.
10:00And I had no idea what happened to my mother.
10:04And, you know, everything is cleared.
10:07And after my grandfather's death, I continued deeply in Islamic life.
10:12I became an imam.
10:14So I am the second imam in my village.
10:16So my grandfather was established.
10:19My grandfather built a big mosque.
10:22And after his death, I became like a priest.
10:26I became like imam.
10:27Every five times, father, johar, asr, maghrib, isha.
10:29These five times, I used to go every time.
10:31And I used to call.
10:44So even though I was very young, I became giving the Adan, what I call right now, to call all
10:52the peoples to the prayer.
10:53I became involved in leading prayers and was becoming a very strict follower of Islam.
10:59But I was also crying pain in my heart because I lost my mother.
11:06I lost my grandfather.
11:08And I don't know what happened to my mother.
11:10And seriously, I was living like a bad life.
11:14Even though I have Islamic.
11:16Even though I have, you know, like I tried to survive myself.
11:22But I was so poor family.
11:24Sometimes I did not have enough food.
11:26Nobody is there to cook for me.
11:27Nobody is to feed me.
11:29My mother was far away.
11:30I kept calling her.
11:32But no one answered.
11:33Six months passed away.
11:34I began to think about my mom.
11:38Maybe my mother also died.
11:40That is what I told.
11:41Because from six months, six months passed after my grandfather passed, you know, six months, seven months, it's been passing.
11:48Every day I'm trying to call.
11:50The phone is working, but nobody is not lifting.
11:52So in the time, I thought that maybe my mother has died.
11:55I had no idea whether she was alive or dead.
11:59But one day I went to the school.
12:02A teacher came to school carrying a Bible.
12:05He came to me and began speaking to me about Jesus and salvation.
12:10And immediately I became my angry brother.
12:12You know what happened, right?
12:14So any person, any pastor who is distributing the Bibles and distributing the materials of lectures, what I did, I
12:21grabbed his shirt and I took all the 2000 Bibles and materials.
12:24You know, I fired it.
12:25I told Astaka for Allah.
12:27I told Bismillah.
12:29I told Allah is Allah Muhammad is only one God.
12:32Allahu Akbar.
12:33Only one God.
12:34That is the life that I used to be.
12:36But when this, when the teacher came to me and starting speaking about Jesus and salvation, immediately I became angry.
12:46I threw the books that were in my hands, I just strode and I told, never speak to me about
12:54Jesus again.
12:55We have Allah.
12:56I don't need your God.
12:57The teacher, as soon as, apologized and left.
13:01But the next day he came back again.
13:03He began speaking to me.
13:05That time, this time, instead of becoming angry, something changed inside me.
13:10You know, I began talking to him about Islam and I told him, the word Islam means the path to
13:16salvation.
13:17He said, okay, then take me to your mosque.
13:21He asked him, the teacher, and I was so happy.
13:23And I asked him, are you clean?
13:26Are you clean?
13:28If you want to come to my mosque, you have to be clean.
13:31You have to be holy.
13:32And he said, and he said, if you are already clean, why do you need God?
13:39He cautioned me.
13:41Then he told me something I had never heard before.
13:44He said, I am not clean.
13:46I need a God who can clean, make me clean in my heart.
13:52He told me.
13:54I told him, no, no, no.
13:55If you come to my mosque, you can wash your body in any river, you know, like hands and everything.
14:03But he was, start talking to me.
14:05He told me, hey, Jana, you can wash your body in any river in all over the world.
14:10Like Amazon, Amazon River, like Pacific River, like ocean.
14:15But, but, but, but.
14:17You cannot wash the sin from your heart.
14:20He told me that.
14:21I was thinking, you know, I was literally shocked.
14:25What he's saying?
14:26Every five times, father, Zohar, Rasser, Maghrib, Bisha, every five times I used to go, before I give Adhan, Allah,
14:32I used to go and I clean my heart.
14:35I clean my hands.
14:36I clean my face.
14:37I clean my ears.
14:38I clean my heart.
14:39You know, my food and everything.
14:42And when he told me, again, you can wash your body to go mask in any river or water, but
14:50you cannot wash the sin from your heart.
14:54Come on.
14:54Juvra God asked people to became a clean before coming to him.
15:00But my Jesus comes to people like me, make sinners like, you know, like, but my Jesus comes to people
15:10like me and makes sinners to be a clean.
15:14Jesus looks at the heart and he's able to heal what is inside a person.
15:21Those words stayed with me.
15:24Then he invited me to church.
15:27Then I told him, sir, always you are saying Jesus is a God.
15:30Jesus is a God.
15:31Jesus is not God.
15:36He's not at all God.
15:37He's my prophet.
15:38You know, more than you, we follow him.
15:40We follow his things.
15:42We follow his words.
15:43More than 364 times, you know, Quran talks about Jesus.
15:48He's the prophet.
15:49Don't say he's a God.
15:50And again, he's saying that.
15:51Again, he's saying that.
15:52If you want to wash your body, you can go to the mask.
15:57But if you want to wash your heart, there is no any other God going to clean your heart.
16:04And I told him, who?
16:05Then who?
16:06My Jesus.
16:07My Jesus.
16:08My God who can make sinners clean.
16:14Those words again stayed with me.
16:16And I told him, hey, stop talking to me.
16:20I will come.
16:21I want to see how great your God really is.
16:25But I will not go inside the church.
16:27I will sit outside.
16:29And you know what?
16:30He agreed.
16:32That Saturday night, there was an all-night prayer meeting at the church.
16:38That is my first time that I went to church.
16:41I went there.
16:42But I sat outside.
16:44I don't want to go inside.
16:45I don't want to go inside because I don't want to dishonor by Allah.
16:49I was sitting outside.
16:50There is a chair.
16:51And I prayed to Allah.
16:53I prayed to Allah and said, I'm not going to the church, Allah.
16:56I have come here to bring this teacher back to Islam.
17:01Please forgive me if I come here.
17:03And I prayed to Allah.
17:05And I was sitting at the church outside.
17:10There were many people inside the church.
17:13For the first time in my life, I saw people kneeling down and praying.
17:17And second wonderful thing that I seen, people were crying.
17:22I had never, ever seen anything like this before.
17:26Because in my understanding at the time, people in the mosque did not pray.
17:31I mean, we prayed.
17:33That way I had been taught with my grandfather.
17:38That if you want to ask anything, you have to pray.
17:42But no need to cry.
17:43The prophets who had died could carry our prayers to God.
17:49That's what my grandfather used to taught me.
17:52Don't need to cry.
17:53Because in Islamic, we never, ever cry.
17:55In mosque, we never cry.
17:58Because we always, we make dua.
18:01Dua means like a prayer.
18:02Yeah, Allah, forgive me your sins.
18:04Yeah, Allah, forgive me your sins.
18:06Yeah, Allah, forgive me your sins.
18:06Yeah, Allah, forgive me your sins.
18:07Yeah, Allah, forgive me your sins.
18:09And I will go to my house.
18:11And I will go to my house.
18:12You know, this kind of prayer we used to do.
18:14My grandfather taught me that you don't need to cry.
18:17Your prayers, you know, carry the prophets who died.
18:23They could carry our prayers to God.
18:25But that night, something happened to me.
18:27I was sitting outside in the, outside the church.
18:30The church is going inside.
18:31And I, myself, I am like, hey, Janna, we should not go into the church.
18:37We should not dishonor to Allah.
18:38I was talking to myself.
18:40I don't know exactly what happened to me.
18:45But that night, exactly when I moved, I don't know why I did it.
18:52But I went inside.
18:54I found myself kneeling down and praying.
18:56And I became crying.
18:58I was crying deeply.
19:00I was shouting, like crying.
19:02I don't know how I went inside.
19:04But I think that somebody take, you know, push me inside.
19:09But my commitment is like, no, we are Islam.
19:12I am an imam.
19:14I used to lead more than 200 people in my village.
19:18So I am a priest.
19:19I am imam.
19:20So I should not go inside.
19:21My grandfather is an imam.
19:23My grandfather is the first person who established the mosque in Domeru, in my village.
19:28So I used to take care of myself.
19:29I used to take care of my faith in Allah.
19:32I don't know what happened exactly that night.
19:35I just moved inside.
19:37And myself kneeling down and praying.
19:39I began to cry.
19:41I was crying deeply.
19:42The servant of God who had invited me, noticing me that I was crying and gently comforted me.
19:49I opened my eyes.
19:50I realized that I was inside the church.
19:54Eventually, you don't know what happened that night.
19:56I grabbed his shirt and said, who brought me inside?
19:59I told you I would not come inside.
20:02And he looked at me and said, Babu, Jana, no one brought you inside.
20:07You came inside by yourself.
20:09You came here.
20:10You kneel down and you prayed.
20:13I was that word really shocked me.
20:16I went home almost 11.45 at night.
20:20I reached home around like 11.45 p.m. at night.
20:24And I was alone in my room.
20:26I was thinking, why did I go to, why did I go inside the church?
20:31I have insulted Allah.
20:34I have dishonored Allah.
20:36And, you know, I went to sleep.
20:39I started trying to read Quran.
20:42And Allah, I dishonored you.
20:45I insulted you.
20:46But something takes me inside.
20:48I don't know what to do.
20:49You know, that is the prayer that I was doing before I sleep.
20:53So after everything happened, I tried to sleep on the bed.
20:57I went to sleep.
20:58While I was sleeping.
21:01This is the ultimate testimony, brother.
21:03How I encountered Jesus.
21:05Jesus, while I was sleeping, I heard a voice.
21:09Jana, wake up and pray.
21:13What?
21:14Wait, who is talking to me?
21:17Immediately, I woke up immediately.
21:18I opened the door.
21:20Nobody was there.
21:21I became frightened.
21:23I performed, you know, like a, what do you know, like a, Tarabi.
21:29I put, what do you call that in English that?
21:34Like, Tasbih.
21:35You know, Tasbih means, some of the Islamic priestess, they used to hold some, like a chain.
21:40They used to say, Shubhan Allah, Alhamdulillah.
21:42You know, maybe a lot of Imams, like high priest, they used to carry like a small thing.
21:48And saying like, Shubhan Allah.
21:49Yeah, so I performed, uh, uh, uh, Tasbih, washing my face again, hands and feet, recited the Kalima again.
21:58I went back to sleep again.
22:00Again, I heard, second time, Jana, wake up and pray.
22:04It was not in dream.
22:06Seriously, I heard a voice.
22:09My whole body was trembling.
22:12Then, for the third time, I heard the voice again, Jana, wake up.
22:17It's me.
22:18Wake up and pray.
22:20When I heard it the third time, I understood in my heart it was Jesus.
22:25I grabbed the leg off my bed and began to cry.
22:28I prayed, Jesus.
22:29People say, you are God.
22:31If you are really a true God of this world, let me hear my mother's voice.
22:36I have not heard her voice for seven months.
22:40If I heard her voice, I will serve you.
22:43I will become a witness for you.
22:46I prayed through that night.
22:48I began praying around midnight.
22:50I prayed until four in the morning.
22:53Then five o'clock came.
22:56You know, I just opened my eyes.
22:58I was kneeling almost four hours.
22:59And I jumped on the bed and sitting and watching the time.
23:03All night, I haven't sleep.
23:05Five o'clock came, six o'clock, seven o'clock, eight o'clock.
23:09But that night, I prayed that if you are a true God, I want to hear my mom's voice at
23:16nine o'clock, 9 a.m. in the morning.
23:18I was praying.
23:19I was praying.
23:21Six o'clock came, seven, eight, 8.45.
23:25You know, that night, that early morning, I did not go to Father's Prayer.
23:29I was still sitting and praying and looking at the time.
23:32Around 8.45 in the morning, one of the postmen came to our house.
23:37He told me, the owner of the STD telephone shop asked me to tell you to come quickly.
23:42There is a phone call for you.
23:44Wow.
23:45I asked her, why?
23:47He said, someone is calling.
23:49You need to answer it.
23:50I ran to the telephone shop.
23:52I thought, if God really knows everything, perhaps my mother will call.
23:58At exactly nine in the morning, the phone was ringing.
24:02I picked up, I picked it up, I said, hello.
24:06And then, I heard my mother's wife.
24:08She was crying.
24:09Come on.
24:10I began crying too.
24:11I said, mother, where have you been?
24:14It has been so many months.
24:17I thought you had died.
24:19I called you so many times, nobody answered.
24:22There was nobody to even give me food.
24:25My mother told me, son, I'm calling you from a prison in an Arab country.
24:31That word was, it makes me very shocked.
24:34I asked her, prison?
24:37But you went to work in the house, right?
24:41She explained to me that, yes, yes, my son.
24:44What had happened?
24:45She said that after I told her that her father was died seven months before,
24:52she went to her employer and begged them to allow her to return to India.
24:59She said she was mistreated.
25:03Her passport was destroyed.
25:05And she was accused of attempting to assault the employer's wife.
25:10She was arrested and sentenced to five years in prison.
25:14Wow.
25:15My heart was broken.
25:16I thought, why are you saying all these things to my mom?
25:19You're saying like seven months, I can't able to survive myself here in India.
25:23Now you're saying that you have been sentenced.
25:27Almost five years in the prison.
25:29My heart was going to broken.
25:31I'm going to take suicide.
25:32I'm going to kill myself.
25:33I thought in the time when my mom is telling all these things,
25:37Jesus, you answered my prayers by allowing me to hear my mother's voice.
25:43But now I have heard a terrible news while I was talking to my mom.
25:49Should I believe that you are a really God?
25:53Or should I take my own life?
25:55Should I take my own life?
25:57I want, I should cry.
25:58I should kill myself.
25:59I was crying in the phone and crying.
26:02Then my mother told me something that,
26:05Hey, son, don't cry.
26:07I will never forget you.
26:10And she said slowly.
26:12Son, last night around midnight,
26:14the prison officer came and opened my cell door.
26:18He told me to sign on the documents.
26:20I was crying, so I signed on it almost 12 a.m. in the midnight.
26:28As I was walking back to my, toward my cell,
26:32he stopped me.
26:33He said, Hey, wait, where are you going?
26:35And I asked her and my mom said,
26:38You know, I'm going to the cell.
26:39Wait, the document you signed was not for five years in the prison.
26:44You signed the papers to go home in five weeks.
26:48That is a good news that I heard from my mom.
26:50You have been proven as an innocent.
26:56That was the moment I realized that God has opened a prison door for my mother.
27:01The night before, I had prayed in India.
27:05And Jesus, if you are really God, let me hear my mother's voice.
27:10At the same time, same day, you know, in a prison, in another country,
27:15my mother was receiving news that she was going home.
27:19That experience changed my life.
27:22I believed that Jesus Christ was real.
27:25I went back to the Bible.
27:28And after I believed in Jesus, I remember the pastor whose Bible literature and 2000 Bibles I had burned.
27:37I went to that servant of God home.
27:39I apologized to him.
27:41I said, I'm sorry.
27:42If you have a Bible, can you please give me one?
27:45He gave me a Bible.
27:47I took that Bible to home.
27:48I held it against my chest.
27:51And I cried.
27:52I cried and cried.
27:53The Bible I had once burned, once burned became the Bible I could not live without.
28:01Come on.
28:01But I was afraid that people would find out that I was following Jesus.
28:06So when I went to church, I would wrap the Bible in a newspaper, tie it, tying it with a
28:14string, hide it, hide it inside my pants and secretly carry it with me to go to the prayer.
28:23That was how I began following Jesus.
28:26When my family found out, eventually my family, my relatives and Islamic leaders discovered that I had accepted Jesus as
28:35my savior.
28:35I was kicked out from my house.
28:37I faced andromous oppositions.
28:41My mother eventually returned to India after those five weeks.
28:47When she came back, instead of asking her how she was, I immediately started telling her about Jesus.
28:54I told her, mother, Jesus is the savior.
28:57She became very angry.
28:58She held me, struck me and said, you have to ask Allah forgiveness.
29:03Your grandfather was an imam.
29:06You were supposed to become a prayer leader after him.
29:09How can you say, how dare you to say that Jesus is a God?
29:13Jesus could not accept, accept my decision.
29:18She could not accept my decision.
29:20She's saying and slapping on my face and saying that, no, you should not.
29:25You cannot say Jesus is a God.
29:28Immediately, I kissed my mother and told her, mother, I may have to leave you, but I will never leave
29:38Jesus who saved you from the prison, who saved me.
29:41I took my Bible and walked away.
29:45Life after leaving home, I had no way to leave.
29:48I slept in in burial grounds, cemeteries.
29:52I slept on the footpaths.
29:54I slept in parks.
29:55I slept on roadside and bus stops.
29:58I experienced humiliation, rejections when I believe in Christ.
30:03But I kept saying, even if I die, I will not leave Jesus.
30:07I was beaten and attacked because of my faith.
30:11I continued following Christ.
30:14Eventually, I married a Christian woman.
30:17But even after my marriage, the opposition continued.
30:21What happened to my home, the house that had come to me through my family was eventually taken over by
30:32people from my Islamic community.
30:36This was happened in August 2025.
30:39More than 2,000 cases were filed against me in the court.
30:43200 cases.
30:44I have faced many legal and personal struggles right now.
30:49I have also received threats, threat calls.
30:53I have been told that people want to see.
30:56I have, you know, people want to see my end.
30:58You know, my Islamic people, they are saying, we're going to see your end.
31:02I lost the home I had.
31:04Today, I live in a rented house with my wife and our two daughters.
31:10Even through all these struggles, I continue serving Jesus.
31:15At times, I have worked a long hours, sometimes 12 to 16 hours.
31:19A day, right now also.
31:21Including working as a food delivery worker to support my family.
31:28But at the same time, I serve children who have lost their parents in a boat accident.
31:34I help provide food and education around like 22 children who did not have their parents to care them in
31:41the church, in the ministry that I'm doing in India.
31:44I do not have enough financial support.
31:46I have struggled, I have struggled, but I continue praying.
31:49You know, I believe that I continue praying God.
31:53Will you send someone to partner with my ministry, with this ministry?
31:56Will you raise people who will help build your kingdom?
32:00For years, I have been continue praying, praying, praying.
32:03And I have seen people come to know Jesus.
32:07There are families who, according to my testimony and ministry experience, have secretly accepted Jesus Christ as their Savior.
32:16I carry a great burden for ministry.
32:19I want to reach people who have never heard the gospel.
32:24Even today, I receive 13 phone calls.
32:26Sometimes the calls are very short, but they know where I am.
32:30I have had to move, I have had to move from one house to another.
32:35My wife, my wife has also received, you know, abzu and threatening phone calls.
32:42But I continue, I remember the words of Jesus.
32:45You will be my witness to the ends of the earth.
32:49Come on.
32:50So that is the word, that is the, that is the word I am holding on it too.
32:54I travel across India with my wife and continue proclaiming that Jesus Christ is the Savior.
33:01I know there is a danger.
33:03I know there is a opposition, but I cannot stop.
33:06You know, there was a time when I believe if I live, I must live for Allah.
33:12If I kill, I must kill for Allah.
33:15That was the person I used to be.
33:17But today, I stand here and say, if I live, I will live for Jesus.
33:22If Jesus gives me life, I will live that life for him until my last breath.
33:30The man who once burned the Bible is now carrying the Bible.
33:34The man who once hated Christian is now preaching to Christian people.
33:39The man who once threatened people because of his faith is now telling people about the love of Jesus.
33:45My story is not about how strong I was.
33:49It is about what I believe Jesus Christ did in my life.
33:53Amen.
33:53I believe Jesus found me when I was lost.
33:56He changed in my heart.
33:58He gave me a new purpose.
34:00He gave me like a new hope.
34:02And today I was, I want to spend the rest of my life serving him.
34:07This is my testimony, brother.
34:08This is my testimony.
34:09Yes.
34:10Come on.
34:11Thank you so much, Janna.
34:12I really appreciate you sharing that, brother.
34:15Man, going into this, obviously, I did not know your story.
34:18And so it's so powerful to hear it and to know, like, you have gone through real suffering, real persecution.
34:24And, you know, in the West, you know, people do experience persecution, but it is few and far between from
34:29the extremes that, you know, some of the things that you're describing.
34:33And, brother, I just want to encourage you to keep going for the Lord, man.
34:38Keep standing firm on your faith, on the foundation of Jesus Christ.
34:41Just, brother, he declared victory on that cross, right?
34:45Like, he defeated death when he rose from the grave.
34:47And it's like, we have the same Holy Spirit residing in us that resided in him, right?
34:52And, man, it is such a privilege and an honor to just get to talk to you and know that,
34:56like, this is the ministry and the work that you're doing right now.
34:58That's brilliant.
34:59You know, I definitely have some more questions for you quickly here.
35:03I know in India, it was always my understanding that, you know, Hinduism is the predominant religion in India.
35:09But I know that Islam has been taking root and, you know, spreading across India as well.
35:16So you said your grandfather was the first imam in your village.
35:22Was that kind of around the time that you were seeing Islam spread more or did you have any Hindu
35:27relation there?
35:28Or kind of, what does that look like in your area?
35:31My area is, like, full of, like, few countries, few states.
35:35Mm-hmm.
35:35You know, like, up and down.
35:36Like, coming to my area, Hinduism in the first place.
35:40And second place is Islamic, brother.
35:42Okay.
35:44So, yeah.
35:45Yes, brother.
35:46Okay.
35:46Islamic.
35:47And then when did Christianity start to take root there?
35:52In India?
35:53Yeah, well, like, around your area.
35:57No, brother.
35:58Christianity was recently, like, yeah, Christianity is the third place where I live.
36:05But very few peoples, brother.
36:06Very few peoples where I live.
36:08Yeah.
36:09Very few churches, few Christian missionaries.
36:12And, of course, many of them knows me very well.
36:16If you Google my name, you can see there, you know, my witness.
36:21It's not a website, but Google is going to tell about me, how I suffer, what's happening, everything.
36:28But the high court, the judge, they already given me, like, an order.
36:32You should not go anywhere.
36:33You have it threatened.
36:35Yeah.
36:36But, you know, maybe the judge given the order that I should not preach.
36:41But 2,000 years that Jesus was, you know, he told me that, go and preach the gospel.
36:47Come on.
36:48And be my witness and of the earth.
36:52So that is the order we have to hold, brother.
36:54Yes.
36:54I know my life was in threat.
36:57I have two daughters, brother.
36:59Every day they are coming and asking me that, Abba, we don't have a house.
37:03They took our house.
37:05No more house.
37:06You know, I went to court.
37:08You know, more than 200 cases were filed against me in the court.
37:12I didn't do anything.
37:14The only thing that I did, I was preaching the gospel.
37:16Come on.
37:17The only thing that I was preaching that Jesus is the salvation.
37:20The only thing that I was telling that people, they are very confused.
37:23Because, you know, right now, I could say that, I almost studied Quran like 24 times.
37:29On 25th time, when I was not understanding, Quran leads me to study the Bible.
37:34Quran leads me to Injil.
37:37You know, it says that.
37:50You know, all these kalimas, you know, thought about Jesus.
37:53You know, I just want to look on to Jesus.
37:55When I was studying, when I was reading, I was not able to look, where is the salvation in Quran?
38:00I tried to look, where is the salvation?
38:02To whom I have to believe?
38:03You know, Muhammad?
38:04No, he can't give the salvation.
38:06Who can give me eternal life?
38:09So, I was, again I was studying, again I was studying, you know,
38:16You know,
38:19It says me that, go to your first books, which was sent by God.
38:24Go and read that.
38:25You may understand where is the salvation.
38:27Then, Quran leads me to study the Bible.
38:32Then I came to believe that, yes, I need to give my life to Christ.
38:35You know, whatever happens.
38:37What circumstance comes behind me?
38:39I want to go, I want to preach, I want to reach all the souls, those who are not accepting
38:46the Christ.
38:47You know, till now, brother, till now, it's been 14 years, I have been serving God, I have been preaching,
38:52and you know, government stopping, trying to stop me.
38:54And nobody, the government does it, not helping me, you know, the house that I had come to me through
39:00my family was eventually taken over by my former community.
39:04They took my house, they took my land.
39:06I was trying to give the police complaint, nobody taking my police complaint.
39:10My kids are suffering.
39:12I lost everything, brother, but I haven't lost hope in Christ, brother.
39:16Come on.
39:17Yeah, brother.
39:18Yes, sir.
39:18Well, brother, I'm so sorry to hear about the house and what you're experiencing over there.
39:23I definitely want to make sure that we put any information we can in the description here, where if people
39:28want to support and reach out, they're able to do that.
39:31And of course, we'll pray, I'll be praying, and I'll make sure that, you know, whoever watches this, you know,
39:37if you're listening, please be praying for Janna, pray for his family, that he would just be strengthened in the
39:43Lord, but protected as well, and that he would be winning souls to the kingdom, that people will come to
39:46see the good news of Jesus Christ through the work that is taking place here.
39:51Because, brother, I know that it sounds like there's a lot of, you know, Islamic dangers around you, and I
39:58know you just, you need to be strengthened.
39:59You're in enemy territory, but that is where you can win the most souls, too.
40:04It's the most dangerous, but it can be the most fruitful, because these people need Christ.
40:07They're lost in the same way you were, the same way you were angered when you were following the wrong
40:12God.
40:14These people, you know, you were lost just like them.
40:16And so, again, it's just a reminder that, man, they need Christ in the same way you did, and that
40:20you can be that light to them.
40:22So, yeah, brother, I will be praying for you, absolutely, and I thank you for sharing your story.
40:30But, just pray for me, brother.
40:33Yeah.
40:33I don't know, but I can say that this book changed my life, brother.
40:39This book just changed my life.
40:42I just, many times I burned this Bible, but right now, those hands burned this Bible.
40:51You know, now, it's carrying the same Bible.
40:55I'm preaching the gospel to all over the world.
40:58Here I am, I'm not expecting any money, any help, or any support.
41:03But prayers is the most important for me, brother.
41:05Yes, sir.
41:07Because I could send you some videos.
41:10200 people came to kill me, brother.
41:12When I was renting, brother, 200 Islamic people, they brought, like, knives and, you know, rods.
41:20They just came to kill us.
41:22You know, me and my family, we escaped from that place.
41:27And they are trying to search me, search me.
41:30I give in a complaint.
41:31I have the proofs.
41:32I have the videos, how they came to my home.
41:34And they are looking for me.
41:36You know, they took my house.
41:37Almost, I lost a lot of money, brother.
41:39Sometimes I was, it's really hard to, you know, pay for my rent, brother.
41:43I can't be able to buy a few things for my daughters.
41:46Because, yes, before I used to be, I had a lot of money.
41:50But all the money I spent on the house, which was construction,
41:53now the construction house was under control of the Islamic community.
41:58You know, you believe in Jesus, then go and ask your Jesus.
42:01He's going to give you.
42:02We can't, we will see your end.
42:06We can't, we can't see you as a lie.
42:09That is what their agenda, their agenda is to kill me.
42:13Their agenda is to, you know, took my life.
42:16Why?
42:16Because I know Quran.
42:18Why?
42:18Because I know the mystics in the Quran.
42:20Why?
42:20Because I am preaching.
42:22Why?
42:22I became like a viral and preaching the gospel, bold gospel, you know, traveling all over the India.
42:28They just want to kill me.
42:30That's it.
42:30Their what most agenda, you know, just destroy all his life.
42:37Sometimes I was, I was not able to buy the food, brother, to my kids.
42:41I was not able to buy the food, brother.
42:44They grown, you know, one is 80 years and one is 60.
42:46You know how hard, really hard to raise in India, brother.
42:50It's very hard to raise in India.
42:54I was doing a ministry, brother.
42:56Other side, I was trying to help the kids who lost their parents in the church.
42:59You know, like I was adopted there.
43:0216 hours, I have been working on a food delivery and helping them.
43:06Other side, I have to take care of the family.
43:08Other side, I have to go and preach the gospel.
43:11Using media, however, whatever, anytime, we have to spread the gospel.
43:15Yeah.
43:15Just this life, my heart, just given to Jesus, brother.
43:19That's it.
43:20Yes, sir.
43:21Well, John, I appreciate your heart, man.
43:23And I appreciate your vulnerability and your honesty and transparency here.
43:26I appreciate your boldness for Jesus and that you're just on fire for him and that he is
43:32truly your Lord and Savior and you serve him obediently no matter what the cost is.
43:37And man, your faith, it encourages me.
43:40I know it will encourage so many people who see this as well because there are so many
43:43people who we live comfortable Christian lives and we don't realize what is really happening
43:48on the other side of the world, that you are still obedient and serving the Lord no matter
43:52what the cost is.
43:53And so I thank you for your obedience and I thank you for your boldness and your courage
43:57in Jesus Christ.
43:58Oh, man.
43:59I do want to pray with you and we'll do that.
44:01I'm going to stop the recording and we can pray.
44:03But before we do that, is there anything else that you wanted to share?
44:08No, brother.
44:09Just pray for my family.
44:11And if anybody is there, really want to stand for me, don't stand for me.
44:17Stand for my vision.
44:18Stand for the God's kingdom.
44:19That's it, brother.
44:21Because my world, my neighbors needs Jesus.
44:25You know, how I was really enjoying in spirit the same way my family, my neighbors, Islamic
44:33countries, you know, they need to believe that who is Jesus, what is Jesus.
44:38Yeah.
44:39They are in, they are in like a false doctrine.
44:44Yeah.
44:45Absolutely.
44:47Yeah.
44:47Well, thank you, brother.
44:49Um, I really do appreciate your time.
44:51And, uh, I, again, I pray that this blesses somebody.
44:53I pray that this opens the eyes to those who may be lost.
44:56I pray for Christians who are just living in comfort and not being bold or being lukewarm.
45:01I pray that this wakes you up.
45:02There is an urgency to get the gospel to those who are lost and those who need it.
45:05And, uh, you know, I just pray and, and that people will come in and support you, Jana through
45:11prayer.
45:11And even financially, if you have money that you can send, know that Jana is someone that
45:16is trustworthy to send the money to, um, and that you can bless his family in that
45:21way too.
45:21Um, but man, most importantly, let's, let's come together as believers in Jesus and pray
45:27and lift him up at this time.
45:28So thank you again, Jana.
45:30I appreciate you.
45:31Thank you, brother.
45:32Thank you, brother.
45:33Thank you, brother.

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