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CTP (S4E171) Wrestling Is Real Pain with Chad Martin
We trade war stories and real talk with Chad Martin, from what pro wrestling actually demands to why the “fake” label misses what happens in the ring. We also dig into UFO storytelling, faith and humility, and why hope only works when you pair it with a plan.
• Chad’s Texas upbringing and why he loves Mississippi despite the stereotypes
• The real physical cost of pro wrestling and what makes it athletic performance
• Why matches often rely on improvisation and reading the crowd
• How imagination leads to writing books and building a creative life
• The FAFO Podcast goal of calm disagreement and open conversation
• Writing UFO fiction during “disclosure” talk and exploring the question what if
• A Christian perspective on aliens, dimensions, and intellectual humility
• Frustrations with modern adaptations and the case for telling stronger stories
• Personal training for older adults and rebuilding muscle mass and energy
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We trade war stories and real talk with Chad Martin, from what pro wrestling actually demands to why the “fake” label misses what happens in the ring. We also dig into UFO storytelling, faith and humility, and why hope only works when you pair it with a plan.
• Chad’s Texas upbringing and why he loves Mississippi despite the stereotypes
• The real physical cost of pro wrestling and what makes it athletic performance
• Why matches often rely on improvisation and reading the crowd
• How imagination leads to writing books and building a creative life
• The FAFO Podcast goal of calm disagreement and open conversation
• Writing UFO fiction during “disclosure” talk and exploring the question what if
• A Christian perspective on aliens, dimensions, and intellectual humility
• Frustrations with modern adaptations and the case for telling stronger stories
• Personal training for older adults and rebuilding muscle mass and energy
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00:00Hello, welcome to another episode of Perstitutionalist Podcast.
00:06I am your host, Joseph M. Leonard.
00:09That's L-E-N-A-R-D.
00:12It looks French.
00:13It's not.
00:14It's Leonard without an O.
00:17Thank you for tuning in, as Graham Norton used to say, on his show.
00:24Let's get on with the show!
00:27Hello, everyone.
00:30This is going to be a quick cheat intro segment.
00:34I'm going to be lazy.
00:35I've got so many guest recordings built up.
00:40I'm going to get lazy and cheat on some Saturdays.
00:44I don't have to dream up a monologue topic this way.
00:49And I'm also not going to say what guest will be appearing,
00:53because I'm going to be lazy and cheat and use this same intro several Saturdays to intro a guest show.
01:04So, as Graham Norton used to say, let's get on with the show!
01:10Surprise interview!
01:12Take care, God bless!
01:15Joining me today is Chad Martin.
01:20How are you doing, Chad?
01:22I am doing great.
01:22How are you doing?
01:24Could be better, could be worse, as always.
01:28Non-committal.
01:29There you go, there you go.
01:34If I try to praise the day, then something will go wrong.
01:40That is a true statement.
01:42That is a very true statement.
01:43Right, so I don't want to jinx it.
01:46Let's just go down the middle.
01:48There's plenty of room for better, but unfortunately, a lot of room for worse, too.
01:55Yes, harm sent.
01:59Before we get to what's on your bio and what you're here to talk about,
02:04where were you born and raised?
02:07Where are you now?
02:08Places, significant places you might have been between, that sort of thing.
02:13I was born and raised in Richardson, Texas, raised in Clarksville, Texas.
02:20Moved to North Mississippi when I was 17 and lived here ever since.
02:25It's about 30 miles south of Memphis is where I live now.
02:30Okay.
02:32And any significant places you want to drop, name drop?
02:39Well, I will tell you that I love being a Texan.
02:43I do.
02:44And even though I've lived more than double here in Mississippi,
02:49and I've only lived 17 years in Texas, but I love being a Texan,
02:53but I also very much love being a Mississippian.
02:56And that's something you don't hear a lot from people outside of Mississippi.
03:02All right?
03:02Because we get such a bad rep because of the past and all of that good stuff.
03:06But I absolutely love being here where I live at in Philadelphia.
03:09Let me be honest.
03:11I don't know much about Mississippi.
03:14Mississippi, I don't ever hear.
03:16And I would think probably true of a lot of it.
03:19We don't ever, you know, anything good going on.
03:24We don't hear it bad going on.
03:26We don't seem to hear it either.
03:28So.
03:29Yeah.
03:29The only thing you hear is, oh, didn't they finish last on a literacy test?
03:33And that's actually not even true anymore itself.
03:35I mean, we've improved so much in this state,
03:37but you never get to hear the good stuff.
03:39We don't, we only hear the bad stuff.
03:42Well, here's why people don't know how to spell it.
03:46That two S's and the double P and they're just like, ah, let's just skip the news there.
03:53Yeah.
03:54I'm like, we got a song on TV.
03:57Yeah.
03:57That way I don't got to spell it.
03:59That's right.
04:01If I don't report on it, I don't have to spell it.
04:04I don't have to know how to spell it.
04:08So anyway, on your pod match bio, I was joking with you.
04:14I'm not much of a wrestling fan.
04:16You were a wrestler.
04:17We'll, we'll cover a little bit about, it doesn't matter if I'm a fan or not.
04:22I, I recognize the athleticism and the strategy and need for, you know, talent and for tactics to be involved.
04:33So, so I don't have to be a fan to appreciate it.
04:38And you know what I mean?
04:41Very, very true.
04:42Because there are a lot of people who aren't fans of the, of that sport.
04:45I mean, it's because it, it, it, it, it's that line between sports and entertainment.
04:50You have to be an athlete to do it.
04:52Well, you also have to understand the entertainment aspect of drawing your audience in.
04:56And it's not unlike the NFL or boxing or some of these other sports.
05:01We already tell you what we are.
05:03You already know.
05:05Well, and there's a difference between high school and college wrestling, which is a more structured sport.
05:14And that is a true sport.
05:16Pro wrestling today, which has crossed more of the line in to entertainment.
05:22Yeah.
05:22You're, you're an acting stunt man.
05:24When you're a pro wrestler, you, nobody gets to substitute in for you, the star.
05:28I mean, you're the star.
05:29You're the stunt man.
05:30I mean, I grew up, I grew up in Texas playing football.
05:33Football is religion in the state of Texas.
05:36Played my whole life.
05:37Never got injured.
05:38Other than I smashed my finger one time in wrestling.
05:42I've had six concussions.
05:44I've broken four ribs, broken my nose three times, tore up both of my knees, both my ankles, torn muscles,
05:51quad muscles, tricep muscle.
05:52I have a torn one now.
05:53I mean, a torn all kinds of stuff in our fake sport.
05:57Yeah, right.
05:58You know what I mean?
06:00Well, yeah.
06:02So it's, it's very, it's very actiony and athletic.
06:05I mean, it's a very physical thing, right?
06:07It's what it is.
06:08Absolutely.
06:08Absolutely.
06:09We just acknowledge the fact that we're, we're in the entertainment business and that's, and it's just what it is.
06:13It's live action.
06:14If you go to a theater, like a community theater or a Broadway show, it's the same difference that we're
06:20a lot more physical than they are.
06:22Yeah.
06:22And there's nothing wrong.
06:28You're honest about it.
06:31Oh, yeah.
06:31Yeah.
06:32Professional wrestling, as we know it today, is far different than the high school collegiate style constrained wrestling.
06:43And both are fine.
06:46It's, it's a matter of preference, right?
06:50It really is.
06:51Like, I'm not much of a boxing fan either, but that doesn't mean I can't appreciate, I'm more of a
06:58boxing fan than I am a UFC fan.
07:01But both, all still takes talent, athleticism, and strategy.
07:08You've got to employ tactics to be good at what you do.
07:13And that's where I think the, when people call wrestling fake, that it's obviously not all, it's, a lot of
07:27it's choreographed.
07:29Yeah, it's predetermined.
07:30But, yeah, but for the entertainment, but it still requires the athlete.
07:38It's not fake, like, I don't know what to compare it to.
07:42So, I understand when people, yeah, I understand when people get upset, people calling it fake.
07:49But at the same time, based on the definition of the word, it does quasi-apply.
07:57Well, here's the thing about fake.
07:59To say something that's fake is to make it seem that it's not real.
08:03And the only thing that's not real in wrestling would be the outcome that we know is coming.
08:12There you go.
08:13That's very well explained.
08:15Very well explained.
08:17When we're in the ring, people think that we go back and we practice our matches from start to finish
08:21and we do all that.
08:23Here's how I wrestle.
08:24And I'll let anybody out there who ever watched it or ever had a question, this is your answer.
08:29When we get in the ring, I know what the finish is coming.
08:32I know how the match is supposed to end.
08:34How I get there is all determined on how I feed off the audience while I'm out there.
08:38What moves I do is dependent on how the audience reacts to me when I'm out there.
08:42I don't sit in the back and go, all right, we're going to do this and I'm going to do
08:46this and then you're going to do that.
08:48I'm like, no, we're going to see what the audience feels like.
08:50Right.
08:50That's old school wrestling right there.
08:52But unlike a movie, fight scenes are a lot more fake.
08:59They are all choreographed.
09:01They're all choreographed.
09:03For safety to avoid the broken ribs.
09:07I mean, the only thing we don't do is punch you as hard as we can in the face.
09:11You get kicked, you get elbowed, and you get forearmed.
09:15Oh, my God.
09:16I'm glad to be as big as I am.
09:18That's the only blessing I've had in this business.
09:20Well, you can never ask a woman her age or what she weighs, but you're clearly a man.
09:28What do you weigh?
09:29I am 6'4", 272.
09:33Okay.
09:37That's not fat or obese.
09:40That's just you're a bigger dude, right?
09:45Just what it is.
09:46It's just your build.
09:48Yeah.
09:49Eight weeks ago, I was 311 pounds.
09:51Oh, so you've lost.
09:53So I've lost a few pounds.
09:56But I'll tell you, but that's a big human being in there that's sitting on top of you or laying
10:01on top of you or throwing one of these in there.
10:04It's a lot of force.
10:05Right.
10:06You wouldn't want you on top of you.
10:08Heck, no.
10:10There was a famous wrestler one time named, oh, my God.
10:16It just slipped my mind.
10:17Big Daddy V from the WWE.
10:20Big old huge black guy.
10:21He's 6'10", weighed 500 pounds plus.
10:24Wow.
10:25Yeah, that's big.
10:27That's massive.
10:28I wrestled him when I first got in the business, and I weighed all of 185 pounds.
10:33And you won't talk about scared for your life.
10:37Because there's no amount of let me help you or any of this other stuff that's going to save you
10:41when he sits on top of you.
10:45And it's one of those things.
10:46It's like, are you crazy enough to do this thing or not?
10:50And that's wrestling in a nutshell.
10:52Are you stupid?
10:53You can do this.
10:55And that's how it goes.
10:57Just how it goes.
10:59Oh, goodness.
11:00But back to the pod match, I find a lot of guests see that.
11:06We are both there.
11:07I make no bones about it.
11:10A lot of.
11:10I love pod match.
11:11A lot of podcasts.
11:13You service to find guests.
11:16Yes.
11:16It just saves time.
11:18It's a lot easier.
11:19Guests who are looking or available for shows and shows who are looking for guests.
11:26Yeah.
11:26Why go hunting and pecking and beating the bushes and, you know, knocking on a lot of doors that would
11:33be no's when you could do that.
11:37But you say in there before being a wrestler or a personal trainer, which I take it the wrestling led
11:51to the personal trainer or you're also an author and a podcaster also.
11:57Yes, sir.
11:58All of it started with your imagination, though.
12:02Explain that.
12:03Well, I was I was one of those kids.
12:06When you grow up in Texas and this I can't speak for everybody, but for me, I was always outdoors.
12:11I mean, we always did that stuff.
12:13And in the summertime, we weren't allowed in the house a lot.
12:16And not that they kept us out on purpose.
12:17We were like, dude, the life is out there.
12:20Yeah.
12:20So we didn't know any different.
12:21I mean, they would let us come in if we wanted to, but all our friends were outside.
12:25And so we would just come up with these elaborate things.
12:27And from the time my earliest, my memory was watching Star Trek and things like that and be so captivated
12:33by these stories on the I'm watching.
12:36And I was just a huge fan of all of it.
12:38So my mom bought me a little blue plastic typewriter when I was six, eight years old.
12:43And I remember writing my first there was a series called F Troop many a year ago.
12:48Right.
12:49I love that show.
12:50I used to write.
12:52It was.
12:53And that was I used to write scripts for F Troop when I was a little bitty.
12:56Nobody ever read them except me.
12:58They were three or four pages long.
13:00But it gave me a love of writing.
13:03My imagination would always just go wild.
13:05And when I'm sitting in the deer stand, I'm not looking for the deer to come.
13:09I'm just thinking and coming up with stories.
13:11And sometimes scaring myself because I'm scared Bigfoot's going to come walking out of a tree or something and snatch
13:16me up, which is the problem with an overactive imagination.
13:19But it all stemmed from that.
13:20I just love storytelling.
13:23Okay.
13:24That makes sense.
13:25I was like that always growing up, too.
13:28And I come from a creative family.
13:31My father had a three-record deal with his headliner, Jr. and the Polka Kings.
13:38Hey, there you go.
13:39There you go.
13:40So, you know, I wrote and recorded music, but not Polkas.
13:45And when I was younger and, you know, stories and poems and that.
13:49And now that I'm home on disability, I was like, yes, I can do that.
13:56What can I do from – I always joke I'm going to live for those viewing on behind-the-scenes
14:01videos.
14:01There you go.
14:02I'm not a hoarder, but I am a slob.
14:06Look at all that stuff on the couch under the green screen there.
14:09But what can I do from my couch?
14:12I can write.
14:14That's right.
14:15Correct.
14:17And also, you do a podcast.
14:21Tell us a little bit about that.
14:23Oh, the FAFO podcast.
14:27I've been podcasting since 2017 on and off trying to find things that worked.
14:32I've done sports podcasts, wrestling podcasts, supernatural types of podcasts, all things I love to do.
14:39But nothing ever stuck and nothing I just really am like, that's things I do.
14:43But what is something I'm passionate about?
14:46And a few months ago, I'm like, FAFO was part of our motto, me and my tag team partners.
14:52You know, we're called Team FAFO.
14:56You know, that's our nickname.
14:57That's not our actual team name, but that's what people call us because we're so big and have a little
15:01bit of an attitude when we're out there.
15:02So it's kind of something that stuck.
15:04People just gave to us.
15:05And I'm like, I would like to do a podcast that's about FAFO because a lot of people seem to
15:12do that these days.
15:14They run around and run their mouth all reckless and then they find out.
15:17It's just one of those things, right?
15:19We see it on the news all the time.
15:21But I also knew that when I did it, I wanted it to more than be just a place where
15:25people thought they could just come on there and cuss or do something crazy.
15:28I wanted it to be a space to where it didn't matter if we disagree, you could come on there
15:33and at least just have a conversation about whatever the thing is.
15:38And I don't have to yell at you.
15:39You don't have to yell at me.
15:40We're just going to talk about it.
15:41If we end up disagreeing, that's fine.
15:42If we end up agreeing, great.
15:44But at least we're sharing whatever it is that we're talking about.
15:47And I find when you're having those conversations, everything just opens up for you at that point.
15:54And so that's the whole purpose of the FAFO podcast.
15:59That's good.
16:01Open conversations and let the listener decide for themselves.
16:09Exactly.
16:10People need to be able to make – there's far too many people who can't think at all.
16:15No, no, no, no, they can't.
16:17It's a lot.
16:18It's a lot right now.
16:19They want to be told what to think, and they're used to it, you know, from the schools, the indoctrination
16:26factors.
16:27They're not taught how to think in school anymore.
16:30They're kind of tried to be led by the nose.
16:34Anyway, let's go back to you as an author.
16:40What have you written lately?
16:42What's out there?
16:43What do you want to promote?
16:45All right.
16:46I see that.
16:47First of all, let me show you.
16:49So this is my latest one, Black Ridge.
16:53I'm a UFO nut.
16:54I love aliens.
16:55I love all of that.
16:56One of the first books I ever read when I was little bitty was about aliens and UFOs.
17:00And so I've always been fascinated with that sort of thing.
17:03And this one, with all the release of the UFO files that's happening, it's just a lot of fun stuff.
17:09The supposed disclosure year.
17:12And I have fun with just picking through stuff and going, okay, that's cool.
17:16But I always love the question, what if?
17:18And as a storyteller, that's always the thing.
17:20What if?
17:21But I'll try to base it as much on possible real-life situations than not.
17:28So it's not like Star Wars or Star Trek, which I love.
17:31It is more like if they did exist and if these were really things we're seeing, what would that be
17:37like?
17:38And if they were in, say, a certain area, how would those people react?
17:42And what could that be?
17:44So I base a lot of my writing off of things like that.
17:47Just something that inspires me.
17:48And that was one of the ones that kind of inspired me.
17:51And I love, as a matter of fact, before I got on here with you, let me see if I
17:56can show you this real quick.
17:57I was busy putting that together.
17:59Oh, for the benefit of those listening on audio only or reading in a transcript, there's a little alien, kind
18:09of like a gray style alien.
18:12Although it didn't look gray.
18:14It kind of looked pale.
18:14He's a green.
18:15He's a green alien.
18:17Oh, he's gray.
18:18He's one of the greens.
18:19So he's got his lighter skin on him.
18:20And he's got his big bulging eyes.
18:22And they glow green.
18:23And he makes all kinds of noises.
18:25I just plugged him up before I got on here to test him out because I just got him together.
18:30But I usually never buy myself things like that.
18:33But when I saw it, I told my girlfriend, I said, it's coming home.
18:37I'm getting this thing right here.
18:39She's going, oh, Lord.
18:40Yeah, I don't take a firm stand one way or the other.
18:45They exist.
18:46They don't exist.
18:47I stick with this Christian show.
18:51The Christian reality is, I say it all the time, Genesis does not say, and God created life on terror
19:04and only on terror.
19:05And in the one dimension, life created he.
19:10It doesn't say that.
19:11In fact, I released a book also, Is E.T. Really Here?
19:17Question mark.
19:18A really short story.
19:20A Kindle exclusive.
19:21So I could release it for 99 cents.
19:26You know, just something inexpensive during disclosure year.
19:30That makes that point and explores other things.
19:34There could be interstellar travel.
19:37There could be interdimensional travel.
19:40Or as I coin, intertiminal travel.
19:44So we don't know what we don't know.
19:48And as a Christian show, I repeat over and over, put your hubris aside.
19:55Hubris, pridefulness, hubris is a sin.
19:58Now, you should be proud of little Johnny hitting a walk-off home run.
20:04You should be proud of little Sally getting old.
20:07It's okay to take pride in a job well done.
20:10It's pridefulness or hubris.
20:13And hubris is demanding God owes you all the answers.
20:19He doesn't.
20:20And trying to put words in God's mouth.
20:24Again, Genesis does not say what it does not say.
20:30Exclusion is not preclusion.
20:32So they could exist.
20:34They might be here.
20:36They might not be here.
20:38I don't know.
20:39That's above my pay grade.
20:42No, that's right.
20:42And I'm always one of those.
20:44I get a little, I get a little, not frustrated, but I find it funny.
20:47When someone tells me that they are so sure of what God will and will not do.
20:51I'm like, really?
20:52You are so confident that you think you know God's will.
20:57And I'm a Christian.
20:59I keep little baby Jesus right here with me by my side all the time.
21:03All right.
21:04And I know what my belief is.
21:05But I also know that if poor little old me happened to be God, you think I'm going to stop
21:11at some little blue marble out in the vastness of everything and go, yeah, I'm done.
21:15I got the rest of existence.
21:17I think I've just finished with these idiots right here.
21:19Let's just do that.
21:20Have you seen Spielberg's Disclosure movie?
21:24I did.
21:25I did.
21:26Yeah.
21:26It sounds like you were a little disappointed.
21:29I was, too.
21:30I had such high hopes for it, too.
21:32That's part of the problem.
21:34We had such high expectations.
21:36But to me, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, which was supposedly based on a potentially quasi-true story, was
21:47more disclosure than this was.
21:50But I am.
21:51Yeah.
21:51And my ADHD.
21:55Now, I forgot where I was going to.
21:57But at the end of the same time, oh, I remember The Nun.
22:04It's in the preview, so no spoilers here.
22:07Oh, yeah.
22:07No spoilers there.
22:08Yeah.
22:08Right?
22:09Saying God created all that space.
22:12Why would he leave it empty?
22:15That's the perfect response to anyone who said.
22:19That was one of my favorite lives in the movie, by the way.
22:20Exactly.
22:20Because it was one of the most true things they did in an entire film.
22:25Absolutely, right.
22:27To believe that aliens exist, if I did, again, I'm not saying definitively one way or the other, doesn't destroy
22:37my faith.
22:38Because, again, I recognize God could have created life elsewhere.
22:44The Bible doesn't exclude that.
22:47No, it doesn't.
22:48And I think that's one of my favorite things about existing is that we have so much to learn.
22:55There's no way for us to possibly, in our little bitty lifetimes, as a single human, ever hope to even
23:01get a pentissimal understanding of what's truly out there and why we exist and how it's possible.
23:08And not only that, but if you're, like, multi-dimensions, which I love the idea of.
23:11I don't know if they exist or not.
23:13Stream theory tells you it does.
23:14Quantum physics tells you it does.
23:16We don't know.
23:17And we don't know.
23:19But if it did, wouldn't it be cool if, like, these beings were there?
23:23I mean, and that's how I approach all my storytelling.
23:25Wouldn't it be cool?
23:27Yeah.
23:28I love the Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull movie.
23:32Oh, yeah.
23:32Most people hate it because it deals with interdimensionalism.
23:37They don't feel it's archaeological somehow.
23:40Well, the Crystal Skulls could be interdimensional.
23:44So, it fits the movie projection in my mind.
23:49So, I have no problem with that movie.
23:52I loved it.
23:53I see it a lot.
23:54You know, still today, I'll watch it.
23:57I won't say it's my favorite Indiana Jones movie, but I don't hate it like a lot of people do.
24:05And I lost my train of thought again.
24:08But it is true, though, that it doesn't have to be anything like when we're creating something or coming up
24:16with something or people tickle me about this sort of thing.
24:19Like, they have to project themselves into everything that's going on, right?
24:23It's one of those deals.
24:26A personal opinion, which everyone's entitled to an opinion.
24:32They are.
24:32But it matters if it's based on reality and fact and evidence or unicorn fart fantasy delusion.
24:40Exactly.
24:41I've been trying to get into DC's Lanterns on HBO Max.
24:45I watched the last episode.
24:46Oh, I hear so much negative stuff about that.
24:49I'm like, I don't know that I'm coming back to watch it.
24:51Yeah, I hear that from so many all over social media.
24:56Oh, everybody hates it because it's gone woke again.
25:00It's like, oh, we got to change this.
25:03How about you tell the story as the story was meant to be told?
25:07No, you don't got to modernize it and put your own spin on it.
25:13And that's why people are hating it, because they keep trying to change it.
25:18One thing I hear is, it's not really the Green Lantern origin story.
25:24It's more of a villain story.
25:28Well, what they did was, and I love Hal Jordan.
25:32I love these characters, because I grew up reading comics.
25:34And I love a lot of those characters.
25:36Jon Stewart is one of my favorite Green Lanterns.
25:40And they came out the other day, and the showrunners were like, well, Jon Stewart doesn't have a backstory.
25:44I'm like, what?
25:44What?
25:45What?
25:45What?
25:46This character's been around since 1971.
25:49What do you mean he doesn't have a...
25:50Yes, he does.
25:52And when your writers don't understand that.
25:54This is the problem I have with Hollywood writers.
25:55Yeah.
25:56Like, their cop-out is, I got to get as much woke stuff I have to, or as many talking
26:03points in a thing as I can, instead of just, how about let's just write a good story?
26:07Yeah.
26:08And how about let's keep our politics, or whatever, our belief system, out of that?
26:12And they can't for the life of them figure out why it's all failing.
26:15Yeah.
26:16Or write something new.
26:20Don't try to change what people know.
26:27That's why Supergirl, the first time I saw it, I was a little disappointed.
26:33I saw it again, and I really enjoyed it.
26:36People are hating on the poster.
26:39Truth, justice, whatever.
26:42That's not disrespect, really, to truth, justice in the American way.
26:46It's actually more true to the Supergirl origin story than a lot of the other movies had been.
26:55Because it's about young person angst and lack of wisdom.
27:02That's right.
27:02And she saw the death.
27:05She didn't grow up on Earth like Clark did.
27:08So it's a different story.
27:11And people lost that in this movie.
27:15The movie has still got a good message.
27:18Her mother saying, you don't have to always be, you know, smiley and kind every minute of every day.
27:28But you need to be good.
27:31That's right.
27:31And that's still a good, positive moral message.
27:35It's a great message.
27:36And I remember where I was going before about dimensionalism.
27:40Oh, no.
27:41Now it lost my brain.
27:42Oh, no.
27:43Yeah.
27:43There's a movie, Canoe Reeves, Constantine.
27:48Oh, Constantine.
27:49I love that movie.
27:51It's such a good movie.
27:52It explores the notion that hell is really just another dimensional plane of the Earth.
28:00Yeah.
28:00I've got, but again, people have problems with that.
28:05Oh, my God.
28:06It's blasphemous.
28:08No.
28:08We don't know.
28:11That's a plausible interpretation.
28:13Because the Bible doesn't say definitively one way or the other.
28:18And my thing with that is, like, heaven is not on this Earth.
28:22Like, you can't walk next door, open those gates up, and walk into heaven.
28:26That's not how it works, right?
28:27No, it's in Upper Michigan.
28:29I think so.
28:30It's got to be somewhere up there somewhere.
28:32No, it's not heaven.
28:33It's called paradise.
28:34That's right.
28:35I think it's paradise.
28:36There is a hell in Michigan, though.
28:38You can visit.
28:39Well, that makes sense.
28:39Yeah.
28:40That makes sense.
28:41But it's true, though.
28:43And that's what I tell people.
28:44Like, heaven is in another dimension.
28:46You have to enter a different state to enter it.
28:49And it's the same thing with hell.
28:52Now, you can say I'm in hell on Earth.
28:54Believe me, I've been married twice.
28:55I understand.
28:57However, it is not the same thing.
28:59I'm like, and why are you having such a problem with that?
29:02You should have a problem with your faith, first of all, and whether or not you're faithful.
29:07Because if you're faithful, and you believe in that word, and you're true to your faith, you ain't got to
29:12worry about it anyway.
29:13You'll be fine.
29:15So why are you so concerned that somebody else might have a different outlook on, well, I think heaven might
29:21be in another dimension rather than getting fighting mad over it.
29:25Right.
29:26Pick your battles.
29:27Like when the Dan Brown movies came out based on the books, angels and demons and whatnot, Catholic nuns were
29:38out there protesting.
29:40I didn't get that.
29:42Frankly, a lot of what he put was based in reality, and some was based in fantasy.
29:48I've got no problem with that because actually those movies brought more people out of the theater to a Bible
29:57to say, well, what really is in here?
30:01So that's not a negative thing to me.
30:05Dan Brown accidentally brought more people to the Bible than maybe some of them Catholic nuns did.
30:12And full disclosure, I was born and raised Catholic, but this is a non-denominational show.
30:19So you get what I'm saying.
30:21Yeah.
30:22The Chosen is the same way, right?
30:23Chosen comes out, and people are like, well, that's blasphemy.
30:27I'm like, why?
30:27Because we don't know what went on in their everyday lives.
30:29And this show says that.
30:31It's like we're not telling you this is biblical.
30:34That's not what we're saying.
30:35Again, we're saying, is it plausible that these people went on this style of journey as what we know in
30:41between what's happening in the Bible?
30:42When they're going from point A to point B, what kind of conversations would they have?
30:46We have to imagine what those are going to be like because we don't know.
30:50There's nothing written down about that other than what we have in the Bible.
30:54Now, if we just condensed it down that much, that would be the shortest show ever.
30:57We'd be like, these people are all magical because nothing happened between here and there, right?
31:02And I love The Chosen because it brought tons of people in, and it made you realize that, you know,
31:07these were human beings.
31:08Right.
31:09They were human.
31:10They had lives.
31:12They were flawed.
31:15They had days and weeks and months between events that happened.
31:22What were their lives?
31:23Right.
31:24My favorite Christian movie, speaking of blasphemy, is The Resurrection of Gavin Stone.
31:31Have you ever heard of that one?
31:33I've only seen parts of it.
31:35To me, it's great because it's funny.
31:39You know, we as Christians need to have a sense of humor, too, and not be preacher to the choir
31:45only and all the time.
31:47To me, The Resurrection of Gavin, it's not a literal resurrection.
31:53That's right.
31:53It's a figurative, spiritual one.
31:57It makes sense as a movie, and it is meant to bring nonbelievers to the faith.
32:05That's a good thing.
32:07No?
32:08It is.
32:09And I watch some of these movies sometimes.
32:11I have to do it by myself so my girlfriend won't see me cry.
32:14But there are some good ones out there.
32:18Oh, The Resurrection of the Christ is coming soon.
32:21I can't wait to see it.
32:22I saw the first one.
32:24I can't wait to see this one.
32:25But I watch it, but like the one about the little girl who was dying, and she meets this prisoner
32:31in the hospital, and she gives him her kidney when she passes, right?
32:35But she's been drawing pictures of him, and she sees her dead grandfather.
32:39And it's a very sweet, very cute, inspiring movie.
32:43And, of course, she passes in the end because she had cancer.
32:46I mean, she was just going to pass.
32:47But yet she saved a couple of lives because of her donation of her organs and actually was helpful in
32:53getting this man who had, in fact, been in the prison system and gotten out and was dying himself, saved
33:02his life.
33:03And so it's those things.
33:05I love those stories because they're stories and they're things that show you if you put your best foot forward
33:10or if you actually acted like God intended you to do, what could you do to somebody else's life just
33:14by inspiring them?
33:16It's kind of an amazing thing instead of cutting everybody down all the time.
33:20Amen.
33:21My entire Life and Living series of books, they're all standalone books, but collectively as a series, they're about life
33:29and living.
33:29Different main characters in each book, but shall be known by your fruits.
33:36Are you sowing good or are you, as I coined in one of the books, a mass hole?
33:43Now, I didn't invent that term.
33:45Apparently, it was used to refer to people from Massachusetts.
33:51Mass holes make sense.
33:53I like it.
33:54Makes sense.
33:54Well, I invented the new application, which applies to people everywhere.
34:00Are you part of the masses of asses who are always miserable and dragging people down?
34:07You shall be known by your fruits.
34:10Are you trying to uplift?
34:12Are you trying to sow good?
34:15It doesn't cost you anything to smile at someone.
34:20That's right.
34:20Why can't you do that?
34:22Why do you have to be a miserable SOB?
34:26But time is flying by.
34:28So let's talk a little bit about you as a personal trainer.
34:33Sure.
34:34I love doing it.
34:36I don't do it for a living anymore.
34:38I only do it when people need me to help them.
34:40I've got like three clients right now because I don't want to have to.
34:43I spend my time writing and doing my podcast.
34:45That's what I'm interested in.
34:47But when people need me to help them and they want to hire me to do that, I will do
34:50it.
34:50I've got an 82-year-old that I personal train.
34:53I've got a 72-year-old that I personal train.
34:56And I've got my chiropractor that I personal train.
34:59She keeps me functioning in the wrestling ring at my age.
35:02And I try to keep her in great shape.
35:05But I love the change in people's lives.
35:07I love training older people because they still want to live.
35:11Like, how do I keep getting better when, because the chiropractor, her mother is the 82-year-old that I
35:16personal train.
35:18And she went to her doctor.
35:20And the doctor told her, he said, look, he said, a lot of things look good here.
35:24But you have zero thickness in your muscle.
35:28Muscle mass.
35:28You have no muscle mass.
35:29You have none of this.
35:31We've got to do something.
35:32And so she came.
35:33And I'd already been training her daughter.
35:35So she wanted me to train her.
35:38And four months later, she goes back for a checkup.
35:40She's like, what are you doing?
35:42Because all of her numbers are perfect.
35:45And she started having muscle density again and was able to do things.
35:50And she said, well, you said I needed to get in shape.
35:53So I went and hired a personal trainer.
35:54She has a lot more energy, I'm sure.
35:58More.
35:59And she's able to do the things she couldn't do.
36:01Like at Christmastime, when family would come over, she would cook.
36:04And she'd be so exhausted.
36:06She would have to go lay down.
36:08And I remember that first year we were training together.
36:11Her daughter came back.
36:12She said, oh, my God.
36:13She messaged me when they left her house.
36:15She said, mom won't stop.
36:17She's just in there doing everything.
36:18She's not taking those naps she was taking.
36:20She's able just to go, go, go, go, go.
36:22And that hadn't happened for years.
36:24She would have to be sore.
36:25She'd be so worn out.
36:27And I'm like, it's amazing what you can do at any age if you just allow yourself the privilege and
36:34the blessing to live instead of sitting there waiting to die, which is what so many elderly people do.
36:41Retirement hits.
36:42I don't know what I'm going to do.
36:44I guess I'm just going to sit here and wither away.
36:46And you don't have to.
36:48It's an amazing thing.
36:49And speaking of people with disabilities, the gym that I work at, that's a lot of what we do.
36:55I mean, we help so many people learn to walk again.
36:59People who have said they were paralyzed.
37:02I've got so many videos we've taken at that gym of people who can stand up again when they were
37:07told by doctors, medical professionals, that wasn't going to happen.
37:10But all you've got to do is give somebody a little bit of hope and direction.
37:14And you don't have to promise them anything extraordinary, but I'm going to try.
37:19And if you will work with me, we will see what happens.
37:22If we can get some function back, that's great.
37:24It's better than what you were doing.
37:25It's amazing the miracles we see.
37:28I'm writing that down.
37:30At the end of this episode, I will pack on one of my songs.
37:35Hope is great.
37:36Hope is wonderful.
37:37But hope is not a strategy.
37:39You're giving them hope with a strategy to get back to being able to live again.
37:46That's great.
37:47And that's what it is.
37:48Because you can't promise anything.
37:51But you can guide them.
37:52And that's kind of what Jesus does, isn't it?
37:54And that's what the faith is.
37:56Because I can't promise you you're going to get into heaven if you're not willing to follow the path I'm
38:01setting you down.
38:02But if you'll follow the path I'm setting you down, there is hope for you to get there.
38:06And that's really all it is when we come to personal training and everything else.
38:09It's like, if you'll just do what I say, I will show you how to get better.
38:12And if you put forth the effort, you will never be any worse off than you were.
38:17And at least the future can be a little bit brighter.
38:20It may never be perfect, but it's going to be a little bit brighter.
38:23Okay, we've been talking with Chad Martin, and I broke a podcast rule.
38:29I haven't said your name enough during the episode.
38:32That's okay.
38:33You need to say it at least seven times, and I didn't do that.
38:38But, of course, it'll be on post-production.
38:41The bottom scrawl for those viewing behind-the-scenes video, you'll see it there.
38:48Chad Martin, is there a website where people can find you?
38:55ChadRMartin.com.
38:56That's all you've got to do.
38:58That'll be on the scrawl also.
39:01So thank you again, Chad Martin.
39:03It was a fun discussion.
39:06Thanks for having me.
39:06I never know where these shows are going.
39:09I don't ever script.
39:12I don't either.
39:13We just go with the flow with the go.
39:17That's it.
39:18That's what makes this fun and why we do it.
39:20It just makes it fun.
39:22But I appreciate you having me on here.
39:23I've enjoyed the talk tonight.
39:26All right.
39:26Take care.
39:27God bless.
39:28Thanks, buddy.
39:28Have a good one.
39:36Hope, hope is great.
39:40We need more hope.
39:43But it in itself is not a strategy.
39:50Shall be known by fruits, action, God, demands of you and me.
40:01Hope is a whisper, a pretty thought.
40:05A warm blanket when battles are fought.
40:08But a whisper won't win, no, not a single fight.
40:11Gotta stand up and shout with all of your might.
40:16Hope is not a strategy for you and for me.
40:43Talk is cheap, a dime, a dozen phrase.
40:46Pretty words spin through all of your days.
40:49But action speaks louder, thunderous sound.
40:52When your boots hit the ground, no turning around.
40:55We can dream big dreams, paint pictures in our head.
40:59But if we just sit still, we might as well be dead.
41:02The fruits of our labor are what the world will see.
41:05Not just what we wish for, but what we choose to be.
41:14Because hope is not a strategy.
41:17No, it ain't a strategy.
41:20You've got to move your feet.
41:22Got to feel that beat.
41:24Hope is not us.
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