00:00The treatment of Julian is just so cruel and inhumane.
00:04Now it's been three years in Belmarsh prison, he's not serving a sentence,
00:08he's just there because the U.S. wants him extradited and the U.K. is playing along.
00:13After the extradition order was issued, Russia and China seized on it
00:18in order to talk about Western hypocrisy and how the West, the U.K. and the U.S.,
00:27they don't have no moral high ground to talk about China or Russia and so on.
00:32And what is the effect of this?
00:34Basically, we all lose from this kind of thing because for those governments,
00:40it just is a license for them to do the same thing to their dissidents and their journalists.
00:48If Julian doesn't succeed winning this case at the European Court of Human Rights,
00:53it will fundamentally change the scope of press freedoms because, as you know,
01:00Julian is not a U.S. citizen.
01:02He was not working from the United States.
01:03He was working in Europe.
01:07WikiLeaks publishes from France.
01:09WikiLeaks is a European publisher.
01:12This is not something that is going on between the U.K. and the U.S.
01:17and there are also people who have worked or are working for WikiLeaks who are Europeans
01:26residing in European countries and who are obviously at risk of also being extradited
01:31and prosecuted alongside Julian.
01:34So this is an enormously important case.
01:38It's what's been playing out in the U.K. courts and the U.S. courts will determine the scope
01:44of press freedom and ultimately democratic freedoms in Europe.
01:48It changes the rules of the game in terms of the ability to report on foreign countries,
01:57foreign powers committing war crimes.
02:00And if we can all agree that war crimes are always wrong and should be prosecuted and the
02:08journalists should have the ability to expose war crimes without being put in prison, then
02:14it follows that Julian should never be extradited to the United States because just like there
02:20are war crimes, for example, in Ukraine or in other parts of the world that should obviously
02:27be investigated and prosecuted, the United States is not impugned.
02:32And if a journalist has the courage and the conviction to publish evidence of war crime, then
02:43of course, they should be protected.
02:45And the European continent, through the European Court of Human Rights, has the ability to block
02:53this extradition.
02:54Ultimately, Europe can save Julian and must save Julian.
03:01And France, of course, is a central player.
