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00:31NFL keeps going even though the Lions weren't playing
00:34yes Lions on a bye you had a chance
00:36to look around the league
00:38we want to hear from Lions fans on this
00:41during the Lions
00:42bye week I learned
00:44blank
00:46John during the Lions bye week
00:48I learned blank
00:51but the Cowboys
00:52are terrible
00:54and I don't really know what
00:56to make of
00:57of the Green Bay Packers
01:00it's
01:01it
01:01when you watch that game last night
01:04like
01:05I learned that
01:06Dak Prescott
01:07should not be in the same conversation
01:09as Jared Goff
01:10and I
01:11and I despise the fact
01:13that when people
01:13when people talk about
01:14you know ranking quarterbacks
01:15that they put Dak Prescott
01:17ahead of Jared Goff
01:18a couple of interceptions
01:19now one of them
01:20wasn't necessarily his fault
01:21but the first one
01:22was an ugly
01:23ugly
01:24interception
01:25but when you look at
01:26at Green Bay
01:28I know we're going to get a chance
01:29to play him this week
01:30but I
01:31and I was watching that game intently
01:33because I wanted to see
01:34all right
01:35Green Bay
01:36three and two going into that game
01:37four and two coming out of it
01:38are they
01:41contenders
01:41in this division
01:43without Micah Parsons
01:44Micah Parsons
01:46didn't play last night
01:47and I don't think
01:47he's going to be
01:48playing this week
01:50against the Detroit Lions
01:51Jordan Love
01:53again
01:53nothing special
01:55you know
01:5623 of 41
01:58276 yards
01:59one touchdown
02:00one interception
02:00and then I was looking at
02:02okay well
02:02you know Christian Watson
02:03has been his number one target
02:05targeted eight times
02:06only three receptions
02:07like there's nothing
02:09about that offense
02:11that I fear
02:13even though I'm going
02:14into it
02:15with the defense
02:16that I have
02:17major questions about
02:18we believe Brian Branch
02:19will be back
02:20what's the impact of that
02:22on this Lions secondary
02:24but there's nothing about
02:26Green Bay
02:27that you look at it
02:28and go
02:28oh boy
02:29look out
02:30I mean that's the one thing
02:32I took away most
02:33Caleb Williams
02:33back for the
02:34for the Bears
02:34yeah they're a better offense
02:35with their starting quarterback
02:36there's a shock
02:37yeah
02:40with the Lions on by
02:42I learned
02:43that the NFC is wide open
02:45like I'll put the Niners up
02:47at the top where they belong
02:48but outside of San Francisco
02:49do you get the sense
02:50that there is another
02:52great team in the NFC
02:53it feels as wide open
02:55as it as it could be
02:56right now
02:57you know Detroit's
02:58going to come out of by
02:58and they'll get to play
02:59four and two Green Bay
03:00they'll get to play
03:02six and oh
03:03Minnesota
03:04we'll see what they do
03:04this week
03:05but there is not a
03:07I mean San Francisco
03:08is doing their thing
03:09but John do you agree with me
03:10that nobody else
03:11stands out in the NFC
03:12yeah because you're looking at
03:13obviously we don't
03:14going into the season
03:15the Rams
03:15oh man it's the greatest
03:16you know roster
03:17ever put together
03:18in NFL history
03:18they're now two and four
03:19having just lost to
03:22the Arizona Cardinals
03:23now maybe the Arizona Cardinals
03:24can only play in SoFi
03:26because that's where
03:27they beat the Chargers
03:28and that's where
03:29they beat the Rams
03:29but I look at the
03:32visit Seattle
03:34three and obviously
03:35not the same magic
03:36that they had last year
03:37either on either side
03:38of the ball
03:39but Kenneth Walker
03:40not being there
03:40is a huge impact
03:42on the Seattle team
03:46San Francisco
03:47yeah top of the list
03:48but then you look
03:48across the NFL
03:49and there's nothing
03:50or the rest of the NFC
03:52NFC East
03:53right now led by
03:55the New York Giants
03:55are you afraid
03:57of Jameis Winston
03:58or 918
04:00being a part of
04:02of a division winner
04:039
04:04Philly is struggling
04:05quarterback
04:06maybe done for the year
04:07maybe it's only
04:08what three more weeks
04:09who knows
04:10yeah but seriously
04:11but you know
04:12nobody in that division
04:13and yes okay
04:15we lost to Carolina Panthers
04:16but as you watch them play
04:19I just yeah
04:20nothing that wows you
04:21about the Panthers
04:22and you kind of keep thinking
04:23that Atlanta
04:24is going to get right
04:26but then Bijon
04:29you know like
04:30it's just
04:30a slow day
04:32well when you're trailing
04:34the whole time
04:34it's going to be harder
04:35to run the ball
04:35right
04:37so no
04:38no one else in the NFC
04:39outside of San Francisco
04:41and they're banged up
04:44do you look at
04:45and go
04:45uh oh
04:46okay so
04:46I'll put your
04:48both your answers
04:49together there
04:50the table
04:51the seat of the table
04:52is open
04:52yes
04:53the table
04:53that you guys
04:54thought was possible
04:55this the NFC
04:56championship game
04:57yeah
04:57it's there
04:58for the taking
04:59but somebody's got to
05:00rise up and take it
05:01in this conference
05:02if you see a little bit
05:03more balanced offense
05:04in Minnesota
05:05I still think
05:05I think they're the
05:06favorite to get there
05:07uh the Rams
05:08might get right
05:09but man
05:10they've got to grind it
05:11out from here on out
05:12they're going to have
05:12a high stress season
05:14at this point
05:15if the Lions
05:16can win these
05:17two division games
05:18the opportunity
05:20is right there
05:20to go back
05:21back to where you
05:21were three years
05:23ago
05:23and do it again
05:25yeah by no means
05:26does the seat at the
05:28table mean the Lions
05:29have it reserved
05:31they got a lot of work
05:32to do themselves
05:32yeah
05:33but it's there
05:34but it's also
05:35it's the toughest
05:36division I think
05:37in the NFC
05:38from top to bottom
05:39and the Lions
05:39haven't played a game
05:40in division yet
05:41no
05:41they're going to come
05:42out with two of them
05:42got obviously got
05:43you know
05:44and both of them
05:44at home
05:46so you've got
05:46the Green Bay Packers
05:47this weekend
05:48Minnesota next weekend
05:49and it is Minnesota
05:50and it's Minnesota
05:52with Kyler Murray
05:55not letting the world
05:56on fire
05:57but finding a rhythm
05:58with the passing game
06:00and Justin Jefferson
06:00and then a guy
06:02that is aware
06:04enough to pick up
06:05critical third downs
06:06with his feet
06:08and that worries me
06:09about this Lions
06:10defense
06:10uh-huh
06:11yeah you could put
06:12apply pressure
06:13but if you don't
06:14learn from what you did
06:15against Josh Allen
06:16in regards to
06:17trying to keep a guy
06:18like that in the pocket
06:19you did it last year
06:20against Lamar Jackson
06:21you didn't this year
06:22against Josh Allen
06:23are you going to be able
06:25to do it
06:25against Kyler Murray
06:26so he doesn't pick up
06:27those third downs
06:28or doesn't scramble
06:29and finds Justin Jefferson
06:31during the Lions
06:32bye week
06:32I learned
06:33what
06:342-4-8-5-3-9-97-97
06:36you know
06:37I had it in the overreactions
06:38I think there's going
06:39to be three teams
06:40from the NFC North
06:41that make the playoffs
06:43you just need to not
06:44be the worst
06:44right
06:45and honestly
06:46it's if you're looking
06:47at the top
06:48if you're trying to pick
06:48a top three
06:49in the division
06:50not separating
06:51who's 1-2-3
06:52yeah
06:52I
06:53what I learned
06:54it's how I started
06:55I think you're
06:56you're better than
06:57the Green Bay Packers
06:59so you should be
07:00at a minimum
07:01at a floor
07:02one of the three
07:03in this NFC North
07:04yeah I didn't see
07:05if the line moved
07:06Lions were early
07:07three and a half
07:08point favorites
07:09this week
07:09at home
07:10off a bye
07:10against Green Bay
07:11if you want
07:12to solidify
07:13that you aren't
07:13the odd man out
07:14if three of the four
07:15are going to make it
07:16gotta win this week
07:17this week
07:17you show that
07:18you say
07:19oh I see the seat
07:20at the tables open
07:20not only to make
07:21the playoffs
07:22in my division
07:22but to start
07:23to build some momentum
07:24and start to
07:25to make a go of this
07:26because it is there
07:27for the taking
07:27I told you guys
07:28when we maybe
07:29to get into more
07:29of this during the week
07:30I think this is
07:31the fork in the road
07:32moment for this
07:33entire regime
07:34this entire era
07:35of Dan Campbell
07:36and Brad Holmes
07:37to me you have to
07:38win both these games
07:39if I'm going to
07:40take you seriously
07:40you got your
07:42butt kicked
07:43by both of them
07:44last year
07:44in one of the two
07:46games you played
07:46you got swept
07:47you went 0-4
07:48against these two teams
07:49they're coming in here
07:51this defense has to
07:52look better
07:53and they've got to
07:54win both these games
07:55and if they don't
07:56it's kind of hard
07:57to take it serious
07:58at this point
07:59the defense certainly
08:01has to look better
08:01with Brian Branch
08:02and as we heard
08:03from Kelvin Shepard
08:04I don't think he
08:05understands or knows yet
08:06is that 20 plays
08:0840 plays
08:08how many plays
08:09is Brian Branch
08:10actually going to
08:11be able to play
08:12and then what does
08:14Keith Abney look like
08:15playing next to
08:16Brian Branch
08:16because he did a
08:17good job in his
08:18first spot duty
08:19at safety
08:20text coming in
08:21what I learned
08:21is the Lions
08:22offense will need
08:22to play near
08:23perfect if they
08:24want a playoff
08:24spot the north
08:25looks like a
08:26gauntlet
08:27I learned that
08:28the Falcons
08:28are still the
08:29Falcons and we
08:29can be done
08:30talking about them
08:32that division
08:33is probably soft
08:34enough that you're
08:34not done talking
08:35about them
08:37this weekend
08:37I learned that
08:38yeah but it was
08:39the Cardinals
08:40isn't a legitimate
08:40argument Drew
08:41and Romulus
08:44you don't say
08:45the Packers
08:46looked really good
08:47in the first half
08:48but then coasting
08:49based on how bad
08:50Dallas was playing
08:51the Bears looked
08:52really good early
08:52as well but didn't
08:53have a good second
08:54half the Lions
08:54cleaned things up
08:55this division is
08:56anyone's to win
08:58I learned that
08:59Joey Porter Jr.
09:00was a giant miss
09:01for Brad Holmes
09:02Chris in a truck
09:04is that sarcasm
09:06I'm assuming
09:06yeah
09:07I've seen
09:08can we just
09:08hit this real
09:09quick I've seen
09:09people saying
09:10see adding
09:11Joey Porter Jr.
09:12was a mistake
09:13for Dallas
09:13look at what
09:14the Rams did
09:15going all in
09:16therefore you
09:17should just
09:17never go all
09:18in the Lions
09:19were right
09:19and that's
09:20not the
09:21lesson isn't
09:22to never go
09:22for it
09:23there's also
09:24lots of teams
09:24that didn't
09:25go for it
09:25that won't win
09:27right you
09:27can look at
09:28Indianapolis
09:29and say well
09:29you know
09:29going in all
09:30in with
09:31Sauce Gardner
09:31last year
09:32was not
09:34the right
09:34decision to
09:35make
09:35right but
09:36the lesson
09:36isn't don't
09:37try
09:37right
09:38correct
09:39text says
09:40the Packers
09:40receivers are
09:41going to slice
09:42up our
09:42secondary
09:42Watson and
09:43Matthew
09:44Golden
09:44Golden
09:45played well
09:45John
09:45he does
09:46if they bring
09:46in those
09:46deep balls
09:47against the
09:47Cowboys
09:48we're going
09:49to lose
09:4934 to 13
09:50bread and
09:50Monroe
09:52with the
09:52Lions on
09:53a bye
09:53I learned
09:54that Donald
09:55Donald and
09:56Stafford are
09:57washed
09:59I was
10:00I was
10:03dismayed
10:03at the
10:04play selection
10:06really all
10:07game long
10:08other than
10:09I don't
10:10maybe one
10:10drive at
10:11the start
10:11of the
10:11fourth
10:11quarter
10:12it was
10:13the one
10:13where they
10:13had the
10:14the pass
10:14interference
10:15with Puka
10:15Nakua that
10:16took them
10:16down within
10:17the like
10:17I don't
10:17know it
10:17was like
10:17the 10
10:18yard line
10:19but I
10:20just was
10:21amazed
10:23at
10:24what Sean
10:25McVay was
10:26trying to do
10:26offensively
10:27I just
10:27couldn't
10:27figure it
10:28out
10:28it's
10:28bizarre
10:30John is
10:31a fan
10:31boy
10:31Jordan
10:32Love is
10:32going to
10:32tear us
10:33apart
10:34I learned
10:34that Golden
10:35is going to
10:35go for
10:35250 against
10:36the Lions
10:37so if
10:38the Lions
10:39play as
10:40they did
10:40in the
10:40first four
10:41games
10:42absolutely
10:42get torn
10:43apart
10:45and I'm
10:46not going to
10:46sit there
10:46and say
10:46oh well
10:47what we
10:47saw against
10:47Arizona
10:48is what
10:48this
10:48defense
10:49is
10:49no
10:49that's
10:49not
10:50it
10:50I
10:50want
10:50to
10:51see
10:51what
10:51it's
10:52going
10:52to
10:52be
10:52with
10:53Brian
10:53Branch
10:53as a
10:54part
10:54of
10:54this
10:54defense
10:55it
10:56may
10:56not
10:56be
10:56any
10:57improvement
10:57if
10:57he's
10:57only
10:58going
10:58to
10:58be
10:58able
10:58to
10:58go
10:5815
10:5820
10:59plays
10:59like
10:59what's
11:00the
11:00impact
11:00that
11:01he'll
11:01actually
11:01have
11:02on
11:02this
11:03defense
11:03but
11:04there
11:04is
11:04the
11:05outside
11:05chance
11:05that
11:05you
11:05put
11:06an
11:06all
11:07pro
11:07back
11:08into
11:08this
11:08the
11:08back
11:09end
11:09of
11:09this
11:09defense
11:09and
11:10it
11:10could
11:10look
11:10better
11:10I
11:11learned
11:11that
11:11the
11:11NFC
11:12North
11:12isn't
11:12going
11:12to
11:12make
11:13anything
11:13easy
11:13for
11:13the
11:14Lions
11:14everybody
11:14just
11:15keeps
11:16winning
11:17and
11:17another
11:17echoes
11:18kind
11:18of
11:18the
11:18sentiment
11:18I
11:19had
11:19during
11:19the
11:19Lions
11:19bye
11:20week
11:20I
11:20learned
11:20that
11:20every
11:21team
11:21is
11:21a
11:21wild
11:21card
11:22team
11:22there's
11:22no
11:23really
11:23great
11:23team
11:24and
11:24again
11:24I
11:25put
11:25San
11:25Francisco
11:25aside
11:26they
11:27they play
11:28tonight
11:28they haven't
11:29even played
11:29this
11:29weekend
11:29so
11:30the
11:30games
11:30I
11:30watched
11:30this
11:31weekend
11:31nobody
11:31in
11:31the
11:31NFC
11:32jumps
11:32out
11:33as
11:33they're
11:33running
11:33away
11:33with
11:34this
11:36fork
11:36in
11:37the
11:39we'll
11:40get
11:40some
11:40more
11:40feedback
11:41from
11:41you
11:41with
11:42the
11:42Lions
11:42on
11:42bye
11:42I
11:43learned
11:43blank
11:4497
11:44one