00:00And as we are now well into the final stretch of this presidential run-off election in Brazil,
00:07a decisive moment where the enthusiasm for voting, the mobilizations of the people,
00:12and the battle against this information narrative will be important for the electors.
00:17To analyze this situation, we are joined by Pedro Martín Chud Godib in these topics.
00:24Hello, Pedro, how are you?
00:28Hello, thank you. It's a pleasure to be here talking to you and Telestor's audience.
00:34Thank you very much. It's a pleasure to us to have you here.
00:38Well, as there are a few days left to this presidential run-off, what do you think will decide this
00:44election?
00:48Yeah, in the past weeks, we have seen a revival of the Lula campaign.
00:54People have taken to the streets in protests nationwide, and it seems that Lula's campaign has waken up.
01:11And we are seeing this in most recent polls.
01:18Lula, of course, he had a defeat in the first round of the elections, but now we are seeing he's
01:27growing in this polls.
01:29It shows that people who weren't decided if they should vote at all are now deciding to support Lula.
01:41And also, it's the most recent poll, which was released today, shows that undecided voters have grown since the first
01:56round.
01:57That means that many Bolsonaro supporters are actually waiting to see, thinking if they should indeed vote for Flávio Bolsonaro
02:11in the second round.
02:15Yeah, there is also this situation, we made a platform that is banning president Lula, but is placing in a
02:27better place Flávio Bolsonaro.
02:32Yeah, of course, in the past days, Flávio Bolsonaro has been beaten up by a lot of events.
02:45His relationship with the banker, corrupt banker, Daniel Vorcaro, has been one of these features.
02:56Also, relations he had maintained with people who are now being investigated by the federal police.
03:09So, it seems that Bolsonaro, for most people, Flávio Bolsonaro is now being seen for what he really is.
03:22Up to the first round, most people didn't even think of Flávio Bolsonaro as a successor of his father, Jair
03:33Bolsonaro.
03:34Now, when the election is up to two candidates, people are thinking again, if they really should vote for a
03:45candidate that has these relations and has this past.
03:51Because, of course, of course, his father's government is now being seen as an inspiration, a continuity for most people.
04:05So, it seems that in most polls, even though Flávio Bolsonaro is, in most polls, the favorite, but in the
04:19recent weeks, the movement shows Lula is growing.
04:23It's very important because polls, of course, are a photograph, but what the polls are constantly showing is that the
04:37movement is in favor of Lula.
04:40So, it's very possible that, in the elections, we will be surprised by the results.
04:55Yeah, and also, you mentioned the polls, and what can you analyze about it, because there are trends that can
05:04indicate something, but it's better when someone else explains it.
05:11I'm sorry, I didn't hear the polls, you mentioned in the first question, the polls, and the changes that I
05:19had because of the people that had changed their mind.
05:23What can you analyze about it?
05:27Yeah, I think, indeed, most people have, in the first round, people voted, the people that voted for Flávio, voted
05:41for change.
05:42Now, many of those who voted for him in the first turn, are fearing what a government led by him
05:54will mean.
05:58We have these relations of Flávio with Daniel Vorcaro, his relations with corrupt police officers, and, of course, we have
06:10the fact that the far-right in Brazil conquered, in the first round, conquered a majority in the Senate.
06:19So, many people who are rightists, they would vote for a now liberal candidate, and so on, are now thinking
06:32if it's worth to put so many power in the hands of Flávio Bolsonaro,
06:39because he would have a majority in the Congress, he would appoint at least four members of the Supreme Court,
06:50and he would lead the executive branch.
06:53So, we have this very strange phenomena of people who voted for him in the first round, and are now
07:03thinking maybe it's not a good idea to vote for him.
07:08Thank you very much, Pedro, for your analysis, and for joining us here in From the South.
