00:07good afternoon boy do we have a lot to unpack but this is a weird beginning david because
00:15one of these things is not like the other now now david i know you're a winner you're you're
00:23specifically a winner we know this right your steelers kicked off today as a big w i mean you're
00:52that is not myron cope i could tell you that all right so david's winner paul sarah remember all
01:01week when that guido bastard told you you're gonna beat the jets paul sarah lord of the fins
01:09paul sarah's a winner
01:26i can tell you i'm a winner i mean big g is the big winner
01:30that man took several atomic bombs to the head in jj we trust jj mccarthy was electric yesterday
01:38he was quite entertaining when he was texting me i'm sure i was happy for him but i'm a winner
01:43you are a winner i'm a winner david
01:54and you the people of detroit are winners you beat the packers and then there's there's you
02:00the light of the world i was looking for the game-winning call for the 49ers i couldn't find
02:07it rico not a winner wow and lost the helmet bet and here's the problem
02:15i don't know what i don't even feel good about winning the bet after what i watched
02:18you know what had a bad weekend it's had a bad weekend you ran out of players your game had
02:25to
02:25get canceled well they scored a touchdown i go to the bathroom i come back i'm like wait where'd the
02:30touchdown go i took it off the board oh you can you do that five minutes later yes so i
02:38lost the
02:38helmet bet michael it is in the works i know dunsey will have his helmet you won rigger was like
02:46you
02:46go double or nothing i'm like that's why you go broke and i don't there is no double or nothing
02:50i'm just gonna pay off the bet look i had confidence the lions will win the game but i can't
02:55tell you i feel great about it so here's how we decided we wanted to start the show you know
03:01paul
03:01had a bold take paul said mike i i know you're not gonna do this but you could just say
03:07the number
03:07and the lines would be full and i go okay but that that's we have angles to hit here now
03:12i'm gonna wait
03:13to get into the dan campbell thing because i'll tell you what this show's not gonna do what the rest
03:19of the media is doing we are not going to stretch to defend dan campbell's idiocy he made a ridiculous
03:27decision dan's a very smart man who made a very dumb decision please spare me your computers because
03:35i'm gonna talk football with you and the football has to be in the equation with the computer okay
03:42dan's a smart guy that did a really dumb thing and he got away with it but here's the silos
03:49you could do what you want with this there is no world you ever turn in a win this isn't
03:56a wallet
03:56you found on the street you don't give it back i'm not asking you to feel any type of way
04:01but there
04:02are two types of fans there is fan a which is win is a win guy and they're like a
04:09speaking spell
04:10you have every right fine you went down there you got hammered win is a win you're hung over at
04:16work
04:16today fine your prerogative the other type of fan is you talk about what led up to the result
04:22and you factor in did my team play really well or not that's a sports fan you know what camp
04:30we're in
04:32they won it's a huge victory divisional victory yes your first back-to-back victory in over a year
04:39also true the problem is i don't think either team played any good i don't think you played well
04:46and yeah the refs were on payroll we could talk about it guess what the lines have been effed more
04:53than a you know what the point is you got a day where you got to be the prom queen
04:59that doesn't take
05:00away the refs were in your pocket and it's part of the nfl's problem and it's america got to see
05:06it
05:06that was america's game of the week even tom brady tom brady was more grossed out by the
05:11officiating than he was saturated fats so i just we're going to talk about all of it but i want
05:17to
05:17know what camp you're in that's all i need to know from you because a win is a win but
05:22man we got to
05:23talk about it what i saw on that field yesterday that's not super bowl good it's empty calories it's
05:29fun but yikes that's going 20 points against a depleted green bay defense that's going back and
05:36forth between the 20s but in the end you had a fast start but then you couldn't score points so
05:43you fumbled into halftime you fumbled out of halftime your quarterback should have thrown three
05:47picks but they had toasters for hands and green bay secondary you win the game late and go down the
05:53field late because you were given one of the most heinous pass roughing the passer calls i've ever seen
05:59i just i will take it all day but man between campbell's decision making the officiating
06:06the turnovers golf putting the ball in harm's way that's one you go thank god we won burn the
06:13tape start over again because if it was a home field advantage type of thing chances are you won't be
06:18playing at home at ford field in the playoffs but i yeah very cute very cute the opening david that
06:25you had all this stuff you know i'll give you all that yeah he's mean you know what i'm not
06:30as privileged
06:30as you guys he's moved my team may not win another game and look we can do the campbell thing
06:35because i
06:35already see campbell callers i'm just going to help you with it it's not a smart move don't waste my
06:40time telling me he guaranteed getting the ball back no it's not see everyone's so effing lazy in this
06:45town because you just don't want to talk about your heroes it was stupid it wasn't a 38 35 game
06:52and you
06:52hadn't got to stop all day and your defense is gassed and they're down and in the game you lost
06:57three guys in the secondary and jordan love had 400 yards none of those things happened this is the
07:03problem with these stupid effing computers you don't factor in game script green bay had three scoring
07:09drives on the day you don't give points away and and by the way giving points away on the idea
07:18that green bay would go on some long sustained drive you're playing pretend it was stupid and you got
07:26away with it you want to defend it you're you're just in your feelings you're just defending it because
07:32the result worked if if you lose that game would you be defending it today let me help you you
07:39would not
07:39you can leave the show now you can't be results oriented with it it worked and i still think it's
07:47stupid
07:47that's the difference it worked and then the only reason it worked is because josh jacob dropped a
07:54touchdown pass off of his hands and then they missed a field goal and that's why it worked
08:00should you ever do that again no not on your side of the field on the 28 yard like what
08:06do you do
08:06just punt the ball you have a great punter you pin them back if it was the buffalo game and
08:12you
08:12hadn't stopped them all day and it's 38 to 35 and they have josh allen on the end and look
08:17maybe
08:17you're down seven starters maybe mike or if you're under two minutes and this is it we have to win
08:24this game because we are definitely not gonna get the ball back again but if it fails and you set
08:31them
08:31up put it this way 99 out of 100 times you set a team up in the red zone they're
08:37gonna walk away
08:38with at least three points and the lead most teams will score a touchdown well to your point there's only
08:43been two field goals inside 35 yards three field goals missed in the nfl all year two of them were
08:50yesterday by the same kicker pete spank or whatever his name is the point is here i i'm not gonna
08:56get
08:56in a huge argument about it if you like it that's cool you're gonna love it when it ends your
09:00season
09:01because i'll tell you this i don't trust this guy in a big game i like dan campbell i like
09:05what he
09:05represents i do think he's a smart guy this is a problem in the big moments the seminal moments
09:10he still will do things that i'm sorry you want to defend it with a calculator go for it but
09:16you
09:17got this is what analytics don't factor in here's some facts they don't factor in personnel they don't
09:24factor in injuries they don't factor in weather they don't factor in who you're playing it's raw
09:32data i do not believe you can make every decision on raw sterile data that was a 17 all game
09:42not 34 31 you defensive played fine enough it's not like the packers could protect jordan love
09:52you pressured him on 45 of dropbacks what world am i forecasting a doom scenario where they run four
10:01minute offense and pound their way down the field and walk you off stop it if i dare him to
10:08do that
10:09in the nfc championship game if you wouldn't do it then you can't do it yesterday and that's why i
10:14still have a deep fear that this guy will have a repeat of the 23 nfc title game and i
10:20don't want to
10:20hear about josh reynolds josh reynolds dropped a ball because you put him in position to drop a ball
10:26if you kick the field goal to go up three scores again josh reynolds doesn't drop a ball
10:33i'm tired of it you got a really good football team you got great offensive pieces you're at home
10:39in a defensive showdown in a wild game do i think the lions were the better team yes i picked
10:45them all
10:45week do i think you could have extended the lead and maybe taken some serious control if you didn't
10:51fumble the ball into halftime and fumble it out of halftime sure and knowing you got every call
10:58including fake ones absolutely you can't do what dan campbell did there it doesn't need to be this
11:05big conversation sticking up for that i think you're a lunatic period you're just loving your home
11:12team and you're feeling some type of way and frankly f your feelings i don't care you just got
11:19you ran a stupid play on third and one you lost the right to go for it there you kick
11:24it away
11:26don't be results oriented yeah i don't even know how know how that was even
11:31because thought to do like are we gonna go for it no what are you talking about kick the ball
11:37let them drive down the score was tied it's just my one fear with him that's all he's gonna do
11:43something reckless in a playoff game and it's gonna be 23 all over him and the floor were out there
11:48like drunken sailors just gambling and doing all types of dumb stuff i didn't like i looked the
11:53fourth and five you could have made more of a case for than the actual fourth and one deep in
11:58your own
11:58territory the fourth and five in the red zone i've seen that movie before and the lions usually score
12:03on that play i was at that point 50 50 on that one yeah because we were texting i was
12:09just you know
12:10what in that game we didn't think points were going to be at that much of a premium just take
12:15the
12:15points because now you take the lead and you make them play desperate and as you said the referees
12:21you had them in your pocket and green bay really wasn't moving the ball up and down the field they
12:26were jordan love was primed to do something stupid just take the points right there just trust look i
12:32know it sounds crazy in this town to say trust your defense but you're playing an opponent who's
12:36they were on their third center three plays into the game their offensive line is all backups they
12:41couldn't protect love i'm willing to take that chance and again the way the defense had played
12:47in this game it was good enough now the packers did a bunch of stupid stuff to help you no
12:53question
12:53dropping passes you don't get credit for it but it's a part of the result crazy penalties helping you get
13:00off the field it's not your fault you play the game but i'm i'm just i laugh at this idea
13:06that
13:06jordan love had already thrown for 400 yards and four tds and we just can't stop them and oh my
13:12god
13:12aiden just dropped dead like okay that's a different discussion analytically this game that was crazy
13:19yeah well you could have got the ball back and they would have killed the clock before like please or
13:23guys you just punt the ball please it's it's it's it's whatever and you know what the only reason
13:28these people are calling is because he got away with it it's okay to just be honest boy could you
13:33imagine if he didn't yeah hey you don't know everyone would be defending it don't you know no