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00:00All right, so it's interesting.
00:03You know, it's just, I guess the NFL trade deadline is, you know,
00:07it's gaining popularity here over the years.
00:11And you're seeing some deals being made.
00:14And even Jaden Daniels' name is being kind of thrown out there
00:17in sort of the gossip circles.
00:18And I guess a lot of it stems from John Gruden four or five days ago
00:23throwing out there that during the Gruden family football show,
00:28he said if he was in Minnesota or where else?
00:35Philadelphia.
00:36Or in Philadelphia where they have an issue at quarterback,
00:40what better situation to go trade for a guy to come in and solve it for a year
00:46than Kirk Cousins?
00:48If I'm the Vikings and we know Cousins in Minnesota better than anybody,
00:52I'm going to offer the Raiders a second-round draft choice
00:55because if I get Kirk Cousins in Philly or I get Kirk Cousins in Minnesota,
01:00we can win the Super Bowl this year with the defense, with the players we have.
01:05That's a pretty steep price.
01:07Second-rounder for a 37-year-old.
01:10I mean, I get it.
01:11You think you can win a Super Bowl?
01:13It would be worth it if you did.
01:14Did you watch Philly's defense this week?
01:16I just don't think they're going to give up a second.
01:18Yeah.
01:19Did you see what Dallas did to Philly's defense?
01:22Yeah.
01:23And the Vikings, I don't know if Kirk Cousins –
01:25do you feel like Kirk Cousins now –
01:27I know he leads the league in touchdowns.
01:29Yeah.
01:29Do you feel he's a significant upgrade over Kyler Murray?
01:33Maybe.
01:35You certainly have more confidence in him.
01:36As a passer, yeah, he's not a runner, obviously.
01:37You have more confidence in him.
01:39I mean, they're barely letting Kyler do stuff, right?
01:43Yeah, I mean, their offense is –
01:45they're not putting up a lot of numbers.
01:46Oh, yeah, they're lagging.
01:47And O'Connell has had Kirk Cousins before,
01:50but it does get you thinking for sure
01:54because that defense is definitely a Super Bowl defense,
01:56but people are hesitating to believe that they are a Super Bowl –
02:00a true Super Bowl contender.
02:02Because of the QB.
02:03Yeah, because of offense in general.
02:05Correct.
02:07That'll be interesting to see if they do that.
02:09But you're right, EB.
02:10I mean, a second round pick is high.
02:11It seems like there's more discussion about movement
02:18and guys bouncing from team to teams and contract situations
02:22than ever before with this trade deadline looming.
02:25Yeah, and so the skins are kind of in this deal now.
02:31People are throwing out there, I guess this guy Chad Forbes threw out there.
02:36He actually called them the Redskins.
02:37He said the Redskins are in a tough predicament.
02:40Jaden Daniels is due for a new contract in the offseason.
02:42Deal will be over $60 million and potentially surpass Mahomes
02:46as the league's highest-paid player.
02:48Played in just 11 of the last 23 games.
02:51Let's say the Vikings offer three first-rounders.
02:56Wow.
02:57Do you listen?
02:59Listen, I'm sure some people that are like salary cap gurus and all this,
03:04they might – listen, I'm not trading him.
03:06I'm signing him, and it's just he's going to be one of these guys
03:09that gets hurt occasionally.
03:11That's what I would do, but I don't know.
03:13I'm sure there's some guys out there that said that would be an amazing value.
03:15You can't pass it up like a Herschel Walker trade.
03:18Three first-round picks.
03:19The problem is the Vikings right now are undefeated,
03:22so that's going to be a 2027 first-round pick.
03:25It's going to be a late first-round pick.
03:27You have no idea what the pick in 2028 or 2029 are going to be.
03:32The great thing about what the Commanders had a couple seasons ago
03:36is they had the number two pick overall in a good quarterback class.
03:41So there's no guarantee that you'll have a shot to get a quarterback
03:46who's even close to what Jaden Daniels is with those draft picks.
03:51Like if you told me, well, it's the worst team in the league,
03:56and they're going to give you their number one pick next season,
03:59and there's an amazing prospect.
04:02Like imagine if Arch Manning this year was living up to the hype.
04:07And some people still think he's going to be a good NFL player,
04:10but let's say he was unquestionably the number one pick
04:13or the kid from Oregon who got hurt or whoever was just an unbelievable prospect.
04:20Then I might consider it, but burden in the hand,
04:24it's hard to get rid of that burden in the hand.
04:26Yeah, but like you said, I mean, the draft picks wouldn't be great
04:28because the Vikings are 6-0 and probably going to win the division
04:34or certainly have a good shot at winning the division and going to the playoffs.
04:37And then if Jaden was there, if he was healthy,
04:39they'd be good the next couple of years.
04:41So your draft picks wouldn't be great.
04:43Right.
04:44I don't know.
04:45I think it's kind of a silly proposition, but it's out there.
04:50I guess if a team got crazy.
04:51They're not trading Jaden Daniels.
04:52Yeah, I don't think that they're trading him.
04:54And I know that it's going to upset people,
04:57but eventually when the time comes, they don't have to do it right away.
05:00I don't see what the rush is.
05:02I think they're going to sign him to an extension.
05:041-800-636-1067.
05:06Would you listen to an offer for Jaden Daniels,
05:10and would you extend him this offseason?
05:12Because what Chad Forbes is saying, NFL insider,
05:15is that they're in a predicament.
05:17I agree with you, EB.
05:18I don't think it's that much of a predicament.
05:20They'd have to pay him over $60 million per season if they extend him now.
05:24But we've seen this in Carolina with Bryce Young.
05:27We've seen it in Houston with CJ Stroud,
05:30where they also had this situation where after year three,
05:34you can extend the guy, and they chose not to.
05:37They were like, prove it.
05:38Prove it, right.
05:39Yeah.
05:39What's wrong with that?
05:40I guess you have to pay a little more because the idea is the rate will go up.
05:45There'll be a premium, or maybe somehow the guy will end up leaving you at the end
05:49of their initial rookie contract.
05:52But then you can franchise him, right?
05:54Yeah.
05:54It's that franchise tag.
05:56You can keep him with the organization for a while.
06:01Yeah.
06:02Look, I think it is what it is.
06:03They drafted a guy who's had some injury history.
06:05There's no question about it.
06:06I think when he's healthy, he's an elite quarterback.
06:09He's up top tier.
06:11So, I think they're just going to have to swallow their pride.
06:14Why would the organization and why would Jaden do that?
06:18Do what?
06:19An extension after...
06:21I don't think they should right now.
06:22Well, you have him on a rookie deal still.
06:25So, why would you be willing to commit?
06:27Well, the idea is you sign him to the extension now before the market keeps going up.
06:34Yeah.
06:34But even if I were Jaden, why would I even want to sign the extension?
06:37Because if the market's going to keep going up, I just wait my time out.
06:40Just to secure...
06:41You get some G'd up money, right?
06:43Yeah.
06:44I mean, what if he gets hurt again and then his value drops?
06:46What if he tears his patella tendon?
06:49Or patella...
06:50Yeah.
06:51Whatever the hell it is that Terry tore.
06:54That is very difficult.
06:56Yeah.
06:56Very difficult to come back on.
06:57And from the organizational standpoint, you may have decided, and some people are on the
07:02fence, but you may have decided, this is our guy.
07:04This is our guy for the future.
07:06We have confidence in him, despite the fact that he's missed a bunch of games.
07:11Yeah.
07:11So, let's lock him down now.
07:13Let's lock down our franchise quarterback.
07:14I'd be willing to bet my life that if Adam Peters is the GM, he's already decided that.
07:19Now, I don't know if he's going to be the GM in the future.
07:21I don't know what it's going to be, but I'd bet my life that he's already resolved in
07:25his brain that they're going to re-sign Jaden at the appropriate time, whenever that
07:28is.
07:28Whenever that is.
07:29Correct.
07:29Yeah.
07:29That he's their guy.
07:30There may be a little doubt based on the injuries, and that's why you've got to ride out the
07:33rest of the season.
07:34Yeah.
07:35Right.
07:35And if he stays healthy the rest of the year, and he plays well, and they somehow make the playoffs
07:39and win the division, then obviously his value goes way up.
07:43I know people won't like it because Lamar's a more proven commodity, but I think it's
07:46kind of like a Lamar situation.
07:48You have a guy who might get hurt occasionally, and you've just got to deal with it.
07:51He's just that talented.
07:52You've got to deal with it.
07:53That's the way I would look at it.
07:55I am biased.
07:56The Bengals have had a lot of patience with Joe Burrow over the years.
08:00Yeah.
08:01I don't think either of the guys, Joe Burrow or Lamar Jackson, has missed with the frequency
08:05of Jaden Daniels overall.
08:07But they've had injury issues.
08:10Now, the other part of that is, though, is that when the offers do get absurd, and I
08:16think they rarely happen, but when they do get absurd, sometimes you have to pay attention.
08:23Just listen to it.
08:23Like a Herschel Walker trade, or what is it?
08:26When Dick had traded everything for, where was it?
08:30Ricky Williams.
08:30Ricky Williams.
08:31You know, it doesn't really work out.
08:33Yeah, when the deals get ridiculous, no matter how much you love the player, you have to
08:39consider it.
08:40So maybe a three first-rounder, even though they would be maybe later in the first-round
08:45pick, maybe that's something you've got to really sit down and do the math on and really
08:47ponder.
08:48Did that trade with Ricky Williams happen when we were doing a draft show in New York?
08:53It happened that day, didn't it?
08:55Yes.
08:55Or maybe right before it.
08:56We were there.
08:57Is that when we stood up when we were screaming?
08:59I think that's what happened.
09:00I remember we were doing a draft show from Madison Square Garden from the auxiliary room
09:04or whatever, where they used to hold the draft, right?
09:06In a smaller room.
09:07Yep.
09:08And we stood up and we were screaming.
09:09MSG.
09:09There were a bunch of live shows there, and everybody was looking at it.
09:12They were like, who are these young guys that won't shut up?
09:14Like, we were like interrupting everyone's broadcast because we were just acting a fool.
09:17Right.
09:17Well, because our guy Charlie pulled one over on Mike Ditka.
09:21Yeah.
09:22Ditka drafted Ricky Williams and put his feet up and said, I'm done with the draft.
09:26Yeah.
09:27He believed in Ricky Williams so much.
09:29Right.
09:31Mike Ditka might be singly responsible for people devaluing running backs after that deal.
09:38If you look back at it.
09:39I just remember the reaction of that deal and where we were.
09:43Yep.
09:43If you truly believe in Jaden Daniels, maybe you do extend him this year.
09:51Yeah, I'm not sophisticated enough to know the benefits.
09:55Like, why not just wait?
09:56I mean, I guess on the off chance that he's just miserable and he wants to get out of here.
10:00Hmm.
10:01I mean, maybe that could happen.
10:02I'll tell you what, for the first time in the three years he's been here, I didn't see the joy
10:07the last time he was playing.
10:09I saw a guy that looked like the stress was getting to him a little bit.
10:13Well, it's been a rough start.
10:15You can understand why.
10:16I'd like to see that joy.
10:17Him talking trash with the guys.
10:19Yeah, you haven't seen that much the last few weeks.
10:21I know people don't like it when he smiles when something bad happens.
10:24That's just his defense mechanism.
10:26Trying to process.
10:28Believe me.
10:29He obviously has a lot on his mind if he's not aware of time and score and he's taking a
10:34sack with no timeouts left.
10:36I don't know what the hell that was.
10:37I'll never know what that was.
10:39I'll never understand that.
10:44But, hopefully, the play just, you know, over these next eight weeks or so just resolves all of it and
10:52it just, you know, stays healthy, upright, and, you know, they make a run and all this just becomes a
10:57word on conclusion.
10:58Are you still feeling iffy on the Eagles game?
11:00Yeah, I just feel like it's one of those years where we're cursed.
11:02One of those years where everything just goes wrong each week.
11:04Yeah, he could play great and we still lose.
11:05You know, like I thought he played pretty darn good last week and, you know, didn't get it done.
11:11I think if he plays great Sunday night, they win.
11:13But, I think the only way they lose is if he plays bad or if he gets hurt or because
11:17there's no way.
11:17I don't think Tanner McKee's going to light it up.
11:19No, I don't think Tanner McKee.
11:21And Saquon, who knows if he's even going to go.
11:24But, what if they're just stuffing our run and we're in third and long situations all the time and we
11:29get penalties.
11:30Yeah, it's possible.
11:30That's possible.
11:31And it's hard to overcome a third and 15 every time.
11:36It's hard to overcome that.
11:37It's hard to keep converted.
11:38Yeah, they've got to shore that up.
11:39The offensive line's got to play much better.
11:40Way too many penalties.
11:41Pre-snap penalties are getting stupid.
11:42Way too sloppy.
11:45Must win game.
11:46They're favored.
11:48They have to win the game.
11:50When you have two weeks off, you know, you've got all this time to prepare.
11:54And your opponent's on a short week with the backup quarterback and they're banged up.
11:58I mean, they should.
11:59But I hate when people say you have to.
12:01I mean, they're not robots.
12:03No.
12:03You know?
12:05The reason I say have to, you can have a problem with that word.
12:08It's the same thing as saying must win.
12:10It is.
12:10Yeah.
12:10Yeah.
12:11I know.
12:11It is a must win, but I just don't.
12:13Just because it's a must win, just because your back is up against the wall doesn't mean
12:16you're going to do it.
12:17Of course.
12:17Of course.
12:18Yeah.
12:18Yeah.
12:19But the opportunity is there.
12:21I mean, yes.
12:22You're playing a depleted team at home and you're playing against a backup quarterback.
12:28Now, they've lost to backup quarterbacks before.
12:30I get it.
12:30But you have to, if you want to stay in the race for the division, you have to win this
12:35game.
12:35You're going to learn.
12:36I'll use that word.
12:37I think you're going to learn a lot about the guys.
12:40They showed some pretty darn good resilience in the last game, right?
12:43In the second half.
12:44I think all of us thought that they were going to have to fire DQ.
12:47I mean, it was so awful after one half.
12:50I think the majority, I would say 80% of the fan base probably thought that DQ was going
12:56to have to get fired after that game.
12:57Because it looked like they were going to lose 40 to 6 or something.
13:00If they fired him at halftime, people would have been like, yeah, that makes sense.
13:03Yeah, that makes sense.
13:04They were embarrassed in that first half.
13:05People were, I think they were misattributing.
13:07They were misreading his lips.
13:08They thought he bungled another late game situation.
13:11They were on a path to giving up 40.
13:15But they're pretty resilient.
13:17Played a good second half.
13:18The problem is.
13:18Had a chance to win it.
13:19It's been embarrassing that here we are seven, eight weeks in, whatever we are, and we still
13:23haven't played a full game yet.
13:26But, and DQ's having to go out there and say, yeah, I think we can play a full game
13:29now.
13:30Yeah.
13:30That's kind of embarrassing.
13:31After six weeks, or six games.
13:34But they need to.
13:36And you're right.
13:37They should, on paper, beat this Philadelphia Eagles team.
13:43They should win the game.
13:45Their backs are up against the wall.
13:47It is a must-win situation.
13:50But, just like we thought a couple weeks ago, and I thought they were going to get smoked
13:54by Seattle.
13:55With our backup quarterback.
13:56They ended up shocking the world.
13:58Pulling off a dub.
13:59Maybe Philly does that.
14:00We're going to get into it.
14:00We're going to get into it.
14:01We're going to get into it.