00:00I do think a lot of times our initial reaction is outrage like we're very
00:04frustrated especially when it comes to a cultural appropriation or co-option of
00:08the culture and you know we want to defend ourselves and we want to demand
00:14that acknowledgement of you know whether it's black women as the originators of
00:20that culture you know what's the productive way to do that because I do
00:23think that sometimes it can get very hairy and it can oftentimes scare people
00:27into ever trying again when cancel culture occurs in its worst state then
00:32we can't learn from each other right so like people are very afraid to like make
00:38a mistake sort of on the internet so they just won't speak at all now I think that
00:42with social media and with Twitter and Instagram it's a nice place to have the
00:49initial conversation but you know you could easily take it offline and speak in
00:55real life and that's what I'm always eager to do and I think that that's
01:00always a solution for me so I think a lot of things need to be lost in
01:03translation and Instagram or in Twitter but if you just do a quick video or
01:07something of the sort that's a way to solve that issue
01:13I feel like this probably sounds awful but I kind of don't mind when Twitter drags
01:19somebody for appropriating our culture I know it can be scary for them to want to
01:24try and you know discover and experience new things but I do think you do have a
01:29responsibility to know what you're trying or know what you're getting into here I
01:34feel like that excuse always comes back like I didn't know and they're like you
01:38know those tears and I'm just like not here for it and so that's that's my stance more or less
01:46on it is you should still do your homework
01:49and if you don't you might get dragged and take that as a lesson to learn because
01:52you obviously got dragged for a reason and people are seriously outraged for a reason
01:56you know what I think is tricky about that though is that a lot of people who are
01:59part of cancel culture don't do their homework when they're about to cancel
02:03something and I'm like so having worked like working at Elle working at all of these
02:09mainstream magazines a lot of cancel culture is like well if they just had a black girl on staff that
02:13wouldn't have happened and I'm like there are
02:15various like they are like what's so many did anyone google my face like I don't
02:22so it's that sort of thing where I'm like we all need to do better we all need to do
02:27our homework before we just like pop off on Instagram and I think we also have to be
02:31really careful how we do choose to cover that right because I've been in a lot of
02:37situations like where it's like oh the Kardashian wore something and she's calling it
02:42and she's getting dragged on back to her she's getting dragged everywhere she should be getting dragged like I am
02:47not a proponent like let's just put that out there
02:55but I will say there have been times where I'm like they're like well Maya I think you should cover
03:01that and I'm like okay I do think that we should educate our readers and we should educate and we
03:07should put this on social but we should also not only cover the bad things right now
03:11we should not only cover the negative things this is the media we don't want everything that when we google
03:16to be about oh culture appropriation or oh you know this person was dragged I think also even when we
03:23re-share and re-gram things and when we use all of our own platforms we just need to be
03:28very deliberate in our language and just make sure that although yes we are educating people and yes this is
03:34bad and this should not happen but here is the solution
03:37right right now that's that's so real