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جموں و کشمیر کے ضلع ڈوڈہ کا بریسوانا گاؤں سطح سمندر سے تقریباً 7,500 فٹ کی بلندی پر واقع ہے اور ضلعی ہیڈ کوارٹر سے تقریباً 50 کلومیٹر دور ہے۔ سترہ سال قبل، کسی کے وہم و گمان میں بھی نہ تھا کہ ایک دور افتادہ ایک خوبصورت اور پہاڑی گاؤں، تعلیم کے میدان میں ایک مثالی نمونہ بن جائے گا۔ صرف ضلع میں ہی نہیں بلکہ پوری یونین ٹیریٹری میں حاجی پبلک اسکول کے ایجوکیشن سسٹم کو عزت کی نگاہ سے دیکھا جاتا ہے۔ حاجی خاندان نے غیر منافع بخش اور امدادی تعلیمی ادارہ کی بنیاد 2009 میں رکھی۔ مقصد تھا، علاقے کے کم آمدنی والے کسان خاندانوں کے بچوں کو معیاری اور سستی تعلیم فراہم کرنا۔ حاجی پبلک اسکول روایتی تعلیم فراہم کرنے والے موجودہ اداروں سے بنیادی طور پر مختلف ہے۔ یہ ایک انگلش میڈیم کو-ایجوکیشنل اسکول ہے۔ یہاں نرسری سے لے کر دسویں جماعت تک کے طلبہ تعلیم حاصل کرتے ہیں۔ اسکول میں روایتی رٹہ سسٹم کے بجائے سرگرمیوں پر مبنی پڑھائی، عملی سائنس کے تجربات، اور ریاضی کے عملی طریقوں پر زور دیا جاتا ہے۔ اسکول کی ایک بڑی خاصیت یہ ہے کہ یہاں مقامی اساتذہ کے ساتھ ساتھ ہندوستان اور کینیڈا، سنگاپور، امریکہ، جنوبی افریقہ اور فرانس جیسے ممالک سے رضاکار آ کر بچوں کو پڑھاتے ہیں۔
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00:00Welcome to ETB Bharat. This is Aamir Tantre from Haji Public School Breswana in District Doda.
00:06Situated at the height of 7500 feet from above sea level.
00:11We are at this school. This school was established in 2009 by Sabha Haji.
00:16We will talk to her. How did she conceive this idea?
00:20But before that we will ask her some personal questions.
00:25Sabha, welcome to ETB Bharat.
00:27Good morning. Thank you very much for coming here. Welcome to Haji Public School.
00:30Sabha, tell us something about yourself.
00:33I am from the Haji family and born and raised in Dubai.
00:38Then I did my high school and college and a lot of my career in Bangalore.
00:42My father is from this village in Luda district. Mother is from Jiswa.
00:46I am one of four siblings and we had a great childhood where we used to come to the village
00:51every summer and so we have a very strong connection with this village.
00:55And eventually life came to the circle and I have come back to where my father was born first.
01:01Now tell me, how did you conceive this idea to establish a school at a place which didn't have an
01:09activity?
01:10People used to walk for hours together to reach this village and if they had to go to the district,
01:16they had to walk for hours and then go to the vehicle and buy it.
01:20How did you conceive this idea?
01:22So it's not me, it's my family. That's why the Haji family here comes into play.
01:26My father is from this village and the only reason our family has raised ourselves is through education.
01:35This was a very clear realization where my father, my uncles, my sisters, because of them, they got an education
01:44and that is the only difference between them and their cousins here in Delhi.
01:47So in 2008-09, I was working in Bangalore and I was in a very well-paying job because of
01:55my education and in the editorial.
01:57In that year, I could see my home under fire.
02:07So I just had like a very strange question. I had to say, what am I doing in Bangalore away
02:11from my parents, away from my roots?
02:13I made an instant decision to wrap up my city life and come back here to Doda and let me
02:19see what I can do.
02:20I have skills enough, I can help you.
02:22And while we were in Doda, my mother, father and I, this idea came up. My uncle Nasir Haji, cha
02:28cha merek.
02:28He is the main, you know, the strength behind this. We first sat down and we said, let's do something
02:34big, long-term, just say, kuch actual hasil ho, and that is through education.
02:39And instead of giving monthly stipend your scholarship, better is start our own school.
02:44My next question, why only education? You had many options. You would have helped this village in different terms. But
02:52why education?
02:53Because I really feel, and I think it's very obvious, that education covers everything. You prepare a generation to do
03:00whatever they want.
03:01Give them the skills and opportunities, which just by pure luck they don't have.
03:05There is no difference between a child here and the child of a billionaire sitting in a city.
03:09The difference is luck, circumstances, what opportunities, what opportunities are there.
03:17That's why the children are like, let us start on a good scale, on a very good quality, the same
03:24kind of schooling that I would expect for my children or my cousins or my sister's children.
03:28Why do I have to say, no, we will give them the best education, they will become the best possible.
03:33It's a very clear thing, and as I have taught for 17 years now in this school and later school,
03:39it has become clearer and clearer for the whole world.
03:42Education or sahih education, not this factory system of, you know, rote learners and don't ask questions or sar neiche
03:49karke na jiha.
03:50You or we want to start making great well-developed citizens who learn how to ask questions.
03:57You will ask teachers questions, you will ask why for everything, you will ask why, why, what is the logic.
04:04Then you become adults who can critically think about anything.
04:08So this has become clear to me now.
04:10And education is really the...
04:15You will all supported you in this cause.
04:24I can say this is a noble cause for all these people.
04:29It is noble, definitely education by itself is.
04:32It is our family.
04:33Essentially the school, even till today, is very hand to mouth we run.
04:37Only my family, my immediate Puffis, uncle, sister, brother, all of us cousins, we contribute for our funding.
04:44But now over the years, because we have, you know, very good friends of ours,
04:48a little closer to my regular donors of the school,
04:51they send alums up in a year or two hours.
04:54That is the financial bit.
04:55Mostly it is Mr. Nasserhaji who helps through his friends and his networks.
04:59But we are self-funded.
05:00Of course, government aid nahi hai koi.
05:02In terms of support, see village made school bana hai.
05:05Village at that time, aaj roads hai hai.
05:07At the time, it was one, you know, dot on the mountain.
05:10Just like the highway pe chal raha hai.
05:12Oopar mountains pe koi teen ka chhat chamakta hai.
05:16Wo humara gaon hai.
05:17So, coming up, last highway pe stop at Kremnagar.
05:21Kremnagar se pull par karke, four and a half, five hours walk up.
05:25In those days, yeh school gaon walo ne bana hai.
05:29Aaj teen ka patta hun hai.
05:31Apni kamar te othha ke la hai.
05:32Sariye jo laggi hai.
05:33Buildings me construction me.
05:35Bhatti jo yaan laggi hai.
05:36Amne brik skud bana hai.
05:37The villagers made it.
05:38They have literally built the school.
05:40But that was a real hunger for educating the children.
05:43Bokhat inko bokhat zyada shok hai.
05:45Aapne bacho ko.
05:46Obviously, pranika, they missed good education.
05:48And they really are, you know, the way, the extent they go to.
05:52To the villagers, of course, support.
05:53My father is an elder here.
05:56Sara village.
05:57He knows them.
05:58He knows how to.
05:59He knows the families.
06:00He was the main, you can say, capitalist.
06:04And my mother is an educator, principal.
06:07So, she was like the admin head, the skeleton of the school, the rules, the discipline.
06:13She's been a lifelong educator.
06:14She brought that experience into our school and taught us everything.
06:18Tell me one thing, what was the most difficult thing you had to cope with among the children, their parents
06:26and overall in the society?
06:28Even today, that continues to be the main problem.
06:32It is this, the discipline of education or the support for education.
06:38It's a mentality ki ba hai.
06:39Education and discipline and self-study and sticking to the rules.
06:50So, even teaching kids how to study, you know, all of that, even teaching kids how to study or guiding
07:06them.
07:06Because it seems after all these years or so, we are not at the place where children are studying on
07:11their own.
07:13Where they know ki ba hai atana discipline schedule rukhna hai.
07:16So, that is a big challenge.
07:18We want kids to be self-motivated to take the initiative.
07:22So, understand me?
07:22It wasn't easy.
07:25Because changing the mindset of people who have all together seen the government schools where nothing was happening.
07:31And after turmoil of 20 years of this militancy and everybody was sticking to their homes to save their lives.
07:40But it was not easy when we came here in 2009.
07:43Yeah, it was not easy.
07:45It's never been easy.
07:46But the thing is ki, the way the villagers or community wants the kids to study.
07:51Right?
07:52They are hungry for their to succeed.
07:54Jaha par wo na ho paye.
07:55Jaha par wo na ho paye.
07:56Jaha par unki padhai theet nahi ho paye.
07:57They want that for their kids.
07:59Next generation.
07:59So, next generation needs to understand ki, what all the family has missed and what all is possible through education.
08:05Anything is possible.
08:07If you put hard work in, you do your, get your skills up, get your competence.
08:10But also hard work, communication, personality.
08:13Yeh saara kaunt karta hai aaj ki zaman ki.
08:15It wasn't possible for one lady to do.
08:19Yeah.
08:20How did you get school from the volunteers?
08:23Yes.
08:23So that is lucky for me through again communication.
08:26And my network in Bangalore, my friends, who told their friends, building credibility.
08:31Ki bai yek school hai, you can trust this girl, go and try it out.
08:34So it was trial error.
08:35And in the beginning people I knew that that's how the volunteer program started in 2011.
08:40My friends, they stayed for short term.
08:43Because they came, their photos went out on social media.
08:46Then other people started applying.
08:47Then I made a formal volunteer program where people had to apply in a certain way.
08:52I would do interviews and so on.
08:54So it slowly built.
08:55En toho saal ke baad, the people who came are again very good in communication and photographing.
09:00So they took pictures of the school, the work they were doing.
09:02That's when we had kindergarten, first primary, the children were very cute.
09:06They still are.
09:07But those are good pictures to show in remote areas when they were actually doing good work.
09:12But that is how you build credibility.
09:13You do good work, your credibility builds.
09:16And there are a lot of young people who want to help, who want to volunteer.
09:20I want to tap into that pocket.
09:23There is a lot of work to do.
09:25I need people who can come and help the school, stay for 4 to 6 months, teach.
09:29How many teachers do we have?
09:3125.
09:32All are from outside?
09:33No.
09:33No.
09:33There are a lot of our base is the local teachers who have been trained and have worked with
09:37the school for a long time.
09:38But we do have like 10 teachers bhaar ke ote hain then rolling volunteers.
09:42And what is the strength of students at this moment?
09:46It's around 400 to 450 on like a week session change.
09:49So we do work in 450.
09:51So from where these students come?
09:54Right.
09:55So this is the mountain Doda district ke pahaara hai.
09:59Because 400 to 450 people coming from one village is not visible.
10:04Because population is scattered here.
10:0620 to 30 villages.
10:0820 to 30 villages.
10:09And have moved actually to the village for the school.
10:11Balesa se bhi hain, Kishtuwar se bhi aate hain.
10:14But our first thing is admission mein I have a restriction.
10:18First my village is priority.
10:19Then the nearby villages get priority.
10:21Do you have limitations in there?
10:22Yeah, yeah.
10:23We don't want overcrowded classes.
10:24That's a very important thing in school.
10:26So 25 to 30 so we try not to go.
10:29Hadh hoti hai to we'll go a little bit above hai.
10:31Otherwise we split into sections.
10:33So that's very important for your teaching.
10:35If you have to have a healthy sensible number of kids per class.
10:38Primary mein hash kar you need.
10:40If there are 20 se zada becomes difficult.
10:42So then we put in a helping teacher or something.
10:44Very important to maintain a student teacher's moderation.
10:48During this time you might have faced many problems or roadblocks by some people.
10:52Because few were the established ones who didn't want anybody to come to steal their show.
11:00Do you think you have faced some of those kind of problems?
11:03I don't think the established schools have.
11:06The thing about education is all parents want the best product.
11:09I think that whatever school will do, parents will do there.
11:14And then plus convenience and so on.
11:16So, for instance, why don't they come here?
11:19There are good schools over there.
11:20It's not like I'm tapping into anymore.
11:22Here is an urgent need.
11:24This is very remote.
11:26Maybe you will see the terrain here.
11:28What kind of people do you have here?
11:30These are a mix of, like all, mostly farmers.
11:34Mostly farmers, who go for manual labor.
11:37And people are very low quality.
11:39But all subsistence farmers.
11:41Some are drivers, private cabs.
11:43Some, very very few, the public trunks are some government doctors.
11:48Most of them are private farmers.
11:52You know they are a school, or a town, or a nation.
11:56Something like that.
11:57Really a very underprivileged section.
12:01They are the drug of money.
12:02But sugar is all land in farms,
12:04all our health and healthy children.
12:06So that's it.
12:07So that's our demographic here.
12:08We have Budjars, Satomas,
12:10Havadam, Nisab, Dino, Saber,
12:12But we have more and more High-Phillies in Hungary.
12:15And a lot of Budjars who are trying to write that I really like.
12:19What is this Alana like?
12:20That is a literary one here.
12:23We were basically part of the school in 2009.
12:25The first break was TV.
12:28Yeah, we started TV.
12:30Alhamdulillah, there's one of our kids.
12:32We just finished the three of us from Bangalore.
12:36Kamad and she's been masters of literature in the University of Kashmir.
12:40She's two of us in the first class.
12:42She's a girl in Ali Garh.
12:45She's a master's.
12:46We have reached master's stage.
12:48They are yet to be employed.
12:50Yeah, they are not reached that stage.
12:52But they are, mashallah, really right.
12:54For example, she's going to Mount Kams,
12:56the Taqwist College for English language.
12:58She did very well there.
13:00Master's of ISME, Master's course.
13:01She's doing well.
13:02So I keep track of their academics.
13:05Ali Garhwala, Al-Khattop, Artha,
13:08Central University.
13:09Anybody into medical field?
13:11They have tried, I think.
13:12So that's why I'm saying that for discipline of cracking the need,
13:15Abhi Thakni one.
13:16That is, they're trying.
13:17Lot of kids are trying to try.
13:18They need Abhi Thakni one.
13:20You may be trying for competitive exams like KS and IAS?
13:23They will reach there eventually.
13:24Abhi Thakni one.
13:25A lot of them have the dream for exams and so on.
13:31I mean, let's see, inshallah, whatever they want.
13:35Tell me, you have spent 17 years of your work here.
13:41What about your personal life?
13:43I'm very happy with my personal life.
13:45I've had a very good childhood, college years, friendships,
13:49and which are still very strong, but
13:51Pranke friendships abhi tak me in.
13:55So, for me, because I'm not a very, as a social person,
13:59even when I was in the city, I had a thick set of small friends.
14:02So through the internet, I'm still in there.
14:04Like, you want something more?
14:08Do you want to get married?
14:09No, no, no, not at all.
14:11I'm very happy here.
14:12Plus, I'm not fit for my mentality.
14:15I don't think it's suited for it.
14:17I'm very happy.
14:18I can help the kids.
14:20I can do what I'm doing.
14:21Very fulfilled here with the school.
14:23Very busy.
14:23So you want to spend your rest of your life here only?
14:27I want to set up a system that says,
14:29that if I don't want to get married.
14:31Like, anything can happen.
14:32The school goes on as it does.
14:34They don't want to get married.
14:35They don't want to get married.
14:36They don't want to get married.
14:37I mean, what I want is that it's running so smoothly,
14:40that I can even come and, you know,
14:43check in once in a while.
14:44But I enjoy being here, actually.
14:46You have been praised by many people all over,
14:49all over India.
14:51Many people have come here.
14:53I once read, when Dr. Amitav Bhattu wrote something about you.
14:59You are famous when you were 10 years old.
15:02How do you see that exposure,
15:06that in a place where you have established this school,
15:10and the praise you got?
15:12It helps in, it helps?
15:14It helps in terms of everything I need is for the school.
15:17I need staff.
15:18I need staff.
15:20Continuously we want good staff for the school.
15:22I need funds to help the school.
15:23Volunteers.
15:23I need good quality.
15:25But it helps there.
15:27Otherwise, I think, for example, I don't consider myself famous.
15:31I consider if I am doing this job and I have made networks in the education field,
15:36that is my good luck,
15:38and I can ask these people to help me,
15:40kind people to help me.
15:42They have been helpful.
15:42Because Ramitav Bhattu is a legend in education.
15:45He is not a person.
15:46These are legends of Kashmir.
15:48So they took an interest in the school.
15:50They came and they visited the school here.
15:53They brought some ministers to the school here.
15:55This is very good.
15:56In that sense, people know that this is it.
15:59What I would like that to be used as,
16:02is that the rest of those who are inspired,
16:04that this will be done in their villages.
16:06Whoever, you are educated,
16:07you are privileged,
16:08start improving the education in your villages.
16:12Go to villages, backward areas.
16:14That is what would help.
16:16My fame has got nothing on its own.
16:17Tell me,
16:18what is your message for the community as well,
16:21and for the educational system,
16:23especially Godal Sri,
16:25in German and Kashmir in India?
16:26I feel for the community,
16:28that from our side,
16:30we are doing,
16:30I know we are doing a good job in the school.
16:32You need to support your children better.
16:34You need to go away from the traditional,
16:36straight marketing to understanding.
16:39And this is not just engineering or medical.
16:42Your child will go to the field of interest in the field.
16:47There are thousands of jobs in the private field.
16:50And in the private field,
16:51if there is no job in the government,
16:52then you will not get to.
16:53Go for private jobs,
16:54go for more education.
16:56The more you learn,
16:58the more you earn.
16:59If you are after earnings,
17:00the more you learn,
17:00the more you learn,
17:01the more you earn.
17:04But support your kids,
17:05discipline wise and study wise.
17:07That is for the community.
17:09This was Sabaha Ji.
17:11The girl,
17:13I can say still the girl,
17:14running this school,
17:15Haji public school,
17:17at a place,
17:18where there were no roads,
17:20no concrete buildings.
17:23But now people,
17:24are interested towards education.
17:26ETV Bharat,
17:28will record about education,
17:30at every time.
17:31And this is Amir Kantharit,
17:33from Haji public school,
17:34Brahaswana,
17:35for ETV Bharat.
17:37To be continued.
17:38To be continued.
17:42To be continued.