00:00where the Patriots seem to struggle, Wiggy.
00:03You know that.
00:03You played for this franchise.
00:05So certainly first half of the season can be difficult down there.
00:09And the first half of that game was an absolute struggle.
00:13Curtis earlier talking about how awful that football,
00:18that offense looked in the first half.
00:22And certainly had the turnover from Chisholm, which was an issue.
00:27You had the rolling snap, which I don't know how that happens, Wiggy.
00:35Yeah, it seemed like the center never got up on it.
00:39But, you know, as I look at it, like, all right,
00:42that game's kind of in the rear view.
00:43It wasn't the way I expected it to be.
00:47Was it part of the weather?
00:48Who the hell knows?
00:49For me, I think this Patriots season is going to be defined over this next six weeks.
00:55That, like, that to me is the only thing that's going to matter on how we look
01:00and what this team ultimately looks like.
01:03Because when you start to look at the schedule
01:05and you start to look at this next six weeks, that's going to determine.
01:09If you go two and four, we're going to be sitting here going,
01:15what the hell happened?
01:18Well, you broke it down during your lead.
01:20You brought it up with Boomer, and so let's look ahead to the Packers here this week.
01:27And, you know, I guess potentially you can get A.J. Brown back for this game.
01:33I would.
01:34You think it's unlikely the way the coach spoke about him earlier?
01:39Or.
01:39I think it's unlikely generally.
01:41Like, before Rabel even spoke, I thought it was unlikely.
01:43Yeah, to me, this is a massive concern.
01:48Because I think Drake May was awesome, and the Patriots are a better team than the Dolphins.
01:52And Drake put the team on his back in the second half, and they won that game.
01:55And the defense was great, especially even after the Chisholm fumble.
01:58They only got three points.
01:59Yeah.
01:59So, I think they'll be good enough to beat bad teams.
02:02But if you want to do anything like you did last year, you need A.J. Brown.
02:06Well, and, you know, I was not counting on A.J. Brown, I, you know, for a while here, once
02:13he, once they started talking about it being the old knee thing acting up again, I was like, all right,
02:20it might be a problem the whole season.
02:22But the Hunter.
02:23See, I wasn't thinking that way, though.
02:25Yeah, I mean, maybe, listen, maybe it's a week, two weeks, whatever it is, whatever.
02:28But the Hunter Henry injury is an issue.
02:31Yeah, I don't, yes, if he's hurt long term.
02:33To me, just on A.J. Brown to put a bow on that, like, the reason I think he's unhappy
02:39with the questions is because it's a lose-lose.
02:41Because either it's not a re-injury, it's an existing injury that they missed and they were the only team
02:47in the NFL that gave him a first-round pick.
02:49Or it's something that was exacerbated by the way in which they treated his return and he was hurt again.
02:56So, it's like there's no way in which they're clean on this, if that makes sense.
02:59No, and I agree.
03:00Like, I think that the ankle had nothing to do with it.
03:04So, but it could be something that could have been, if it's something that was prior to this, they might
03:10not have picked up.
03:11See, the biggest thing for me is, yeah, I think Hunter Henry is a big, not a big loss, but.
03:19I think he'll be back.
03:20Well, I don't know.
03:21Eli Redden's been doing a good job.
03:22Yeah.
03:23Right?
03:23So, you can have him step up and, you know, get the production you got from Hunter Henry.
03:29I just, the expectations of production that you were going to get from A.J. Brown, you're not going to
03:35get that.
03:36Right?
03:36That was the biggest thing.
03:37So, even though Chisholm looks good at times and Kyle Williams makes a few plays here and Papa Douglas makes
03:43a few plays here,
03:45where your passing game going into the season was really determined about what A.J. Brown was.
03:52And if you don't have A.J. Brown, that is going to be a major problem moving forward.
03:59What worries me, too, is even if A.J. Brown comes back, it's not necessarily going to be the A
04:03.J. Brown that we were hoping he was going to be.
04:06What's he look like?
04:06I get what you're saying.
04:07Like, it's not just, oh, A.J. Brown looked great and then went down with this other injury.
04:12It's he came back from injury, didn't look like himself, and then went down again.
04:15So, and we differ on this.
04:18I think that the ankle had to have something to do with the knee, even though he's dealt with that
04:22knee before.
04:23I think that it must have been, you know, overcompensating.
04:25Yeah, but I've had a high ankle sprain.
04:27You come back from four weeks.
04:28But you haven't had a bad knee on top of it.
04:30No, no, no, but what I'm saying is, like, is, I would say this, like, I'm no doctor, but, like,
04:36I get other parts of your body compensate, but if he came back and his ankle is fine or 90%,
04:45I don't know how that then, like, where does the knee injury get affected?
04:51I think it's more of what Curtis said, the knee injury might have been a problem before the ankle injury,
04:59and maybe they just, you know, overlooked it, or maybe it wasn't as bad as they thought it was going
05:04to be.
05:04But we always knew he had knee problems.
05:06Like, so that's not overlooking.
05:07And if anything, his knee should have been well-rested.
05:09If it's not related, then the knee shouldn't be a problem only after two games because he was out for
05:14six weeks.
05:14It's not like he had wear and tear and were in the middle of the year, and he's played the
05:16whole season.
05:17Right, so that's what I mean.
05:18This was something that if the knee, like you said, he hasn't been doing anything.
05:25So to me, it goes back to maybe the knee injury was a bigger problem than we all anticipated or,
05:33you know, thought it was going, coming when he came here.
05:36So you think even if he didn't have the high ankle sprain in week one, the knee would have been
05:40an issue early on this year?
05:42Yeah, because a high ankle sprain.
05:44Then their medical staff needs to be reexamined.
05:46And this is just my opinion.
05:48A high ankle sprain is not going to affect your knee in any way.
05:52I just, like, for me, I don't get really, like.
05:55So it's just a coincidence.
05:56Well, he also, he could have very easily done something to aggravate it in practice, and it's not.
06:03Aggravate the knee.
06:04Yeah.
06:05Yeah, that's my point.
06:06Well, no, but I'm saying when Curtis says then this is a major problem for the medical staff, like, you
06:11have no way of being able to predict that he's going to aggravate it in practice.
06:14Well, but the rest of the league could have predicted it, and that's why nobody else offered a first-round
06:18pick.
06:19And that's, like, that's where you and I agree, Curtis, right?
06:21If the knee injury was maybe bigger than what we knew as fans, and whether he aggravated it in practice
06:30or regardless, like, well, that was something that, like, all right, going into the season, that knee potentially could be
06:38an issue.
06:38Like, so now you might have to be, like, whoa, do we want to take a run on a guy?
06:44Do we want to trade for a guy where this might be an issue?
06:47Not like the ankle injury was what was going to kickstart it.
06:51That's where I'm kind of, like.
06:53Why is he so angry about it?
06:55And this isn't even us.
06:56Friday he was angry about it, for Abel, that is.
06:58Why is he so, like, cantankerous?
07:02Because it's going to go back, did you rush him?
07:04Did you mishandle him?
07:06But if it's just something that happened in practice, that happens.
07:08He got hurt.
07:08I mean, that's life.
07:09I don't understand.
07:10But it's going to be, like, you can't say that when a guy has a knee injury that everybody in
07:15the league is talking about, because they're going to be like, well, why would you trade a second round for
07:20a guy that had knee issues?
07:22Well, I would say, even if it has nothing to do with the ankle, why is he in the game
07:25when he's playing, like, dog crap late into the game?
07:28And why is he on the hands team at the end of the Jets game on that, where you can
07:31be dove into, like, crazy.
07:32I mean, that's a dangerous position to be in.
07:34Right.
07:35But even if you're totally healthy.
07:36But it goes back to, like, the Trevor Story, Roman Anthony players that you're going against.
07:43A.J. Brown at 80%, in their opinion, is better than everybody else at 100%.
07:50So they're going to.
07:51But I don't think he has been.
07:52The way he played in that Jets game, he wasn't better than the rest of you.
07:55He couldn't catch, like, a cold.
07:57Well, no.
07:58I thought he dropped the ball.
08:00Oh, the Jets game is when he dropped.
08:01I thought he meant the Chicago game.
08:02No.
08:03When you look at A.J. Brown, but that's the way that they look at it.
08:06A.J. Brown at 80%.
08:08Who do you think they'd rather have out there?
08:09A.J. Brown at 80% or Kyle Williams at 100%?
08:13A.J. Brown at 80%.
08:14They would rather A.J. Brown.
08:15Yeah, but that's the way that they're going to view it.
08:17That's the way that every team would view it, somebody at his level.
08:21For me, the knee injury is like, was it more of a problem than we all knew about?
08:27And when I say we fans, because that's where it's going to obviously go back to.
08:32If he's out for.
08:34Do you think he plays before the bye?
08:37When is the bye?
08:38So they have the Packers and then the Lions.
08:41And then the Lions.
08:41And then the bye week.
08:43I would say probably not.
08:46And that's not a good sign.
08:47No.
08:47Because that's not, to me, that's not the ankle injury.
08:51That's something that's going on.
08:52And if it is the knee that, you know, was the one that was causing him the problem to
08:56being like, oh, did they roll the dice on a guy that now his knee is giving him issues,
09:04the one that he might have had issues with wherever he was.
09:08Is there any chance they redo the trade today if given an opportunity?
09:11I think they would.
09:13They would say no.
09:15Oh.
09:15I'm saying, would they do the trade again if they could, knowing everything they know now?
09:20Would they give up a first-run pick for A.J. Brown still?
09:22I think they would go in a different direction.
09:24I think they would go for George Pickens.
09:25Right.
09:26That's what I would have done.
09:27You know, like George Pickens down in Dallas.
09:30I don't know what his numbers are looking like.
09:32I don't think he's having a good of a year.
09:35This year as he had last year, C.D. Lamb's there.
09:37I would have went in that direction.
09:39A guy that didn't have any knee injuries, younger, those type of things, that's the direction.
09:45And maybe they were like, oh, or even a D.J. Moore.
09:47Maybe we should have went that direction.
09:49Yeah.
09:50You know?
09:50I agree.
09:51Because now, if you say, if he doesn't play these next two weeks, then the bye, then if he doesn't
09:57look the same,
09:58we're all going to be like, it ain't got nothing to do with the ankle injury.
10:01This was something.
10:03The knee was really a bigger problem than we all expected.
10:05D.J. Moore made an awesome catch in that game yesterday.
10:08Great catch.
10:09Great catch.
10:10I mean.
10:10I mean, but talk about Buzzard's luck if you're a Ravens fan.
10:14Oh, my God.
10:15First snap with Lamar Jackson.
10:17I know.
10:18I know.
10:18Looks like he dislocated.
10:19And then Tyler Hundley gets hurt.
10:20And then you bring in.
10:21I had never even seen that guy before.
10:23Yeah, he was at UConn.
10:24He looked like he was at my, like, Christmas party.
10:26Yeah, he was at UConn.
10:27But you could just see, like, the Baltimore Ravens without Lamar Jackson.
10:31And it's just a completely different team.
10:33That's why when you have a quarterback like Drake Bay or Josh Allen playing to a certain level,
10:36like, you knock on wood, those guys don't get hurt.
