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00:00:25The night in March 1971
00:00:28On a March night in 2001, something incredible happened within the military perimeter of an air surveillance squadron.
00:00:34our country.
00:00:35It's something so terrifying that it has been kept an official secret until today.
00:00:41We're going to tell the story with its main protagonist, authentic material that is considered classified information.
00:00:51Good evening and welcome to the mystery ship.
00:00:53Well, that will only be one of the topics covered, because today we're also taking our helicopter to the Cerro de
00:01:02Astronauts to discover the great secret of Nazca.
00:01:06We'll have a film screening with Ángel Sala, but you know what?
00:01:10All of current events are concentrated in this cranial vault, in the fragment I hold in my hands.
00:01:18You're probably already aware of this. It was made public a few weeks ago.
00:01:23Hitler's skull is actually that of a woman.
00:01:27The Soviets kept this carefully guarded.
00:01:31Piece of skull with a bullet impact.
00:01:34The apparent suicide of that individual, Adolf Hitler, the man who led 6 million people to the brink of extinction.
00:01:43gas chambers.
00:01:45It was evidence of his end.
00:01:47And now a prominent American scientist has just discovered, through DNA analysis, that no, it is from a woman.
00:01:54From this moment on, the questions become infinite, endless.
00:01:59What happened to Hitler?
00:02:01Were his last hours as we've been told?
00:02:03Did he manage to escape?
00:02:04Did he perhaps read the news of his own death?
00:02:07How is it possible that such an important element of 20th-century history was misrepresented to us?
00:02:12Or have we not been told the whole truth?
00:02:14One more thing.
00:02:16In our morgue, on the table, they are already contemplating four human skulls.
00:02:21These are not reproductions, these are authentic skulls.
00:02:25And they come to tell us their mystery.
00:02:28They'll understand it perfectly.
00:02:29First, an exclusive.
00:02:31Nick Bellantony is the professor of anthropology at the University of Connecticut.
00:02:35And he told us what he had discovered.
00:02:39This is it.
00:02:40We mainly used basic forensic morphology and were also able to take DNA samples.
00:02:46So we examined the cranial plate, which is essentially the back of the skull,
00:02:52and we were able to bring DNA samples to our laboratory,
00:02:55including blood samples taken from the fabric of the sofa on which he committed suicide.
00:03:04The fragment I examined was the back of the skull.
00:03:09He did not live up to my expectations, knowing that he was an adult of average height.
00:03:14and 56 years old when he died.
00:03:17What I saw was a skull much smaller than I had anticipated.
00:03:22In other words, the bone was thin, slender, and small.
00:03:28Males of our species are normally larger and more robust.
00:03:32The bone is thicker.
00:03:34I was quite surprised not to find that.
00:03:36From what I saw, I assumed it belonged to a woman.
00:03:40The big question, and I'm sure you agree with me, is
00:03:43Is it so difficult to distinguish a man's skull from a woman's?
00:03:47And how is it possible that for 60 long years
00:03:51Have they believed something as official truth that later turns out not to be?
00:03:54Too serious, isn't it?
00:03:55Let's uncover more mysteries.
00:03:58These skulls, in some way, are going to speak to us.
00:04:02And his voice will be our dear friend
00:04:08the director of the Anthropology laboratory at the University of Granada.
00:04:12You already know him.
00:04:13Miguel Botella.
00:04:14Welcome.
00:04:15Good night.
00:04:16I truly am, like the vast majority of the audience, I imagine,
00:04:19very surprised, very impressed.
00:04:21Miguel, how is it possible that something like this is such a serious mistake?
00:04:26Is it really that difficult to distinguish a man's skull from a woman's?
00:04:30Actually, if the skull is complete, no.
00:04:33But sometimes, yes.
00:04:34But in this case, there may also have been an interest in it being one thing or another.
00:04:39Ah, that's another story.
00:04:39Clear.
00:04:40Actually, one could differentiate.
00:04:42That large fragment we have, well, it wouldn't be excessively difficult.
00:04:47There are four skulls there.
00:04:48Then we'll learn much more with more guests.
00:04:51and we will also have more contributions from the research team
00:04:54which, among other things,
00:04:56He also took DNA samples.
00:04:58from the blood on a cloth that was in the bunker.
00:05:01In those last few hours, about which so much has been written and said,
00:05:04of Adolf Hitler, in the downfall.
00:05:07Four skulls.
00:05:08Miguel, first of all, thank you.
00:05:10Thank you for bringing us these pieces.
00:05:12who are people who lived, dreamed and felt like any of us.
00:05:15Naturally.
00:05:16And they tell us something.
00:05:18For example, the first difference is man-woman.
00:05:21Okay, the difference, if we have the complete skull,
00:05:24It's not excessively difficult.
00:05:26And we can say that a woman's skull is usually a little smaller,
00:05:31It weighs less, the bone thickness is less,
00:05:33but also the forehead; the forehead in men is more oblique,
00:05:39The forehead in men is more oblique than in women.
00:05:41which is more vertical, clearly more vertical, more rounded.
00:05:45Above all, well, there is an increase in the frontal portion in women,
00:05:49even with a smaller skull.
00:05:51That, along with the portion behind the ear,
00:05:55the mastoid process,
00:05:56which in men are rounded and very rough,
00:05:59as you can see here.
00:06:00And yet, in women they are more pointed,
00:06:04They are thinner, more pointed.
00:06:05What was that called, Miguel?
00:06:06Mastoid process,
00:06:08which cause the woman's skull, when she has teeth,
00:06:11Normally, when it rests on the table, it wobbles.
00:06:15And yet, not man's.
00:06:17The man's remains still.
00:06:18Well, that's it...
00:06:19How curious?
00:06:19Could you give me a demonstration?
00:06:21Because it's very graphic.
00:06:22In the man's skull, which is what we are seeing...
00:06:24The man remains still, he doesn't move,
00:06:26And yet, the woman's fluctuates quite a bit.
00:06:29It sways.
00:06:29No, precisely because...
00:06:30Because of that difference.
00:06:31Because, being shorter,
00:06:33the glucidital portion stands out more.
00:06:35Miguel, because he is working in favor of the program,
00:06:38As you can see,
00:06:39It has even brought us human skulls,
00:06:41but also the same age as Hitler,
00:06:43which would be the one you have there.
00:06:44Yes, this would be a 56-year-old male,
00:06:48And this is a 33-year-old woman.
00:06:49which are the two ages they were when they died
00:06:51Hitler and Eva Braun.
00:06:53So yes, we will be able to see it easily.
00:06:56that the suture, that is,
00:06:58the articulation between one bone and another of the skull vault,
00:07:01It has a drawing,
00:07:02It looks great on children.
00:07:03Is that a child's skull?
00:07:04Yeah.
00:07:05It looks much better in children.
00:07:07And then it's open.
00:07:08They are completely open.
00:07:09Right, Miguel?
00:07:10Yeah.
00:07:10Yes, these are the sutures.
00:07:12The fontanelle is now a little more closed,
00:07:13But it looks great that they're fully open.
00:07:16even separated.
00:07:18As the years go by,
00:07:21They are closing.
00:07:21And they close up so that drawing
00:07:25It gets lost a little more
00:07:28as the years go by.
00:07:30He is 33 years old.
00:07:32We see it even more closed in '56.
00:07:34This one has 56, much more closed.
00:07:36And this one has 82, much more closed.
00:07:39Yes, yes, the suture has practically disappeared.
00:07:42Yes, so that's one of the factors.
00:07:44Not too, let's say, good
00:07:46in order to accurately determine the age,
00:07:49But in reality, when we only have one skull
00:07:50It's the only factor we can count on
00:07:52to determine the subject's age with some accuracy.
00:07:56More things, more elements.
00:07:58In those final hours, it appears that Adolf Hitler,
00:08:00always according to the official version,
00:08:03he took cyanide
00:08:04and then he missed a shot.
00:08:07Exactly with those guns
00:08:09or that gun you see there
00:08:10And those bullets.
00:08:12Show us, Miguel.
00:08:15Yes, probably
00:08:16It had to be a gun of this type
00:08:18These are the ones that were used at the time.
00:08:20And this is a model from that era.
00:08:23And this is the ammunition
00:08:24that was used, caliber 7.65.
00:08:27What would correspond to the hole?
00:08:29It could correspond to the outlet hole
00:08:31of that skull we have there.
00:08:34Exit hole
00:08:35In other words, he
00:08:37somewhere, the mouth
00:08:38or in one's own head
00:08:40and the bullet had exited through this area.
00:08:42Sure, that's an exit hole.
00:08:43Of course, from him or her
00:08:44Because she also committed suicide, didn't she?
00:08:47So, if we're talking about her being a woman
00:08:50which would probably be
00:08:51it was probably
00:08:52Abraham, probably, right?
00:08:54So the shot would be
00:08:56I understand that it could be from the mouth
00:08:58not from the 100
00:09:00because the trajectory does not match
00:09:02and always the entrance hole
00:09:04It is smaller than the outlet.
00:09:06So this is a typical exit hole
00:09:08with loss of projectile energy
00:09:10which can be observed very well.
00:09:11That one's authentic.
00:09:12Yes, here.
00:09:13Here we have an entrance hole
00:09:14of a slightly larger projectile
00:09:16But hey, an entrance hole
00:09:17very well defined, very clear
00:09:20and yet the outlet
00:09:21It's much bigger
00:09:22and much more open
00:09:23like a cone pointing outwards
00:09:25which would correspond to this skull.
00:09:27So there's no doubt about that.
00:09:29which would be an exit hole.
00:09:30With all this arsenal of evidence
00:09:33that we have here, Miguel
00:09:34and with your extensive experience
00:09:35in all this
00:09:37Do you think it's possible?
00:09:38Are you in favor of observing a little
00:09:40the bone, the size
00:09:41so that it can really be from a woman
00:09:44and not Adolf Hitler's?
00:09:45Yes, in principle
00:09:47I would absolutely rule it out.
00:09:48who was Adolf Hitler
00:09:49for a start
00:09:50and then probably
00:09:52It can be from a woman
00:09:53We would have to see the skull
00:09:54In fact
00:09:55but because of the morphology
00:09:57and because of the characteristics
00:09:58thin bone
00:10:00etc.
00:10:00it may be a very good match
00:10:02with a woman.
00:10:03I'm wondering right now
00:10:04What are they thinking?
00:10:05many writers and researchers
00:10:07who have written theses
00:10:08about Hitler
00:10:10Didn't he lose in the bunker?
00:10:12That escaped
00:10:12which started like others
00:10:13important Nazis
00:10:14exit routes
00:10:15What madness?
00:10:17What nonsense?
00:10:17Well, now it's the same.
00:10:18many of them
00:10:19They are, let's say
00:10:20celebrating the fact
00:10:21that there is no physical evidence
00:10:23that Hitler
00:10:24died in this way
00:10:25in the bunker
00:10:25according to these studies
00:10:26What do you think, Miguel?
00:10:27that we know a little more
00:10:29of those last hours?
00:10:32Of course
00:10:32And you'll come with me now.
00:10:33with some guests
00:10:34let's go a little
00:10:36to dive into history
00:10:38that bunker
00:10:39We have images
00:10:40and they are dramatic
00:10:42It's been a long time.
00:10:43but they are truly dramatic
00:10:45Let's see if you like it
00:10:46What happened there?
00:10:48officially
00:10:49What unknowns are there
00:10:50and in a few minutes
00:10:51It's a very short piece.
00:10:52We are here with specialists
00:10:54that they are going to bring documents
00:10:55that will make them think
00:11:05in the bunker
00:11:06while his empire
00:11:07it was falling apart
00:11:08Hitler still
00:11:09making plans
00:11:11refusing to accept
00:11:12that the thousand-year king
00:11:14It was coming to an end
00:11:15in the way
00:11:15as atrocious as possible
00:11:18however
00:11:18reality
00:11:20that all was lost
00:11:21and the Red Army
00:11:22was
00:11:23less than a kilometer
00:11:24It ended up leading him
00:11:25to the decision
00:11:26that the king
00:11:26can end your life
00:11:27next to that of his lover
00:11:29Eva Braun
00:11:31at least
00:11:31That's what's been happening.
00:11:33believing until now
00:11:52from the end
00:11:53of World War II
00:11:54have been circulating
00:11:56all sorts of stories
00:11:57speculations and rumors
00:11:59halfway
00:12:00among the urban legend
00:12:02and the theories
00:12:03conspiracy
00:12:03regarding the alleged
00:12:05Hitler's survival
00:12:06and his escape from Germany
00:12:14when the Soviet troops
00:12:16They took the bunker
00:12:17where he was taking refuge
00:12:18Hitler in 1945
00:12:20They found the remains
00:12:22and of his lover
00:12:23and of his lover
00:12:26one year later
00:12:27the corpses
00:12:28were transferred
00:12:29to Moscow
00:12:30to investigate
00:12:31the circumstances
00:12:32of their deaths
00:12:35after an exam
00:12:37detailed
00:12:37it was decided
00:12:38preserve the skull
00:12:39Hitler's
00:12:40like a macabre trophy
00:12:41and material evidence
00:12:42of the sad ending
00:12:43of the dictator
00:12:47however
00:12:48a recent news
00:12:50has called into question
00:12:51validity
00:12:52of that test
00:12:53experts
00:12:54of the University
00:12:55from Connecticut
00:12:55have analyzed
00:12:56some samples
00:12:57DNA
00:12:58taken by the archaeologist
00:12:59Nick Bellantoni
00:13:00of the alleged skull
00:13:02Hitler's
00:13:05the result
00:13:06of the tests
00:13:07leaves no room
00:13:08doubts
00:13:08the skull
00:13:10it just can't be
00:13:11by no means
00:13:12Hitler's
00:13:12since DNA
00:13:14belongs
00:13:15to a woman
00:13:18the address
00:13:19from Russian archives
00:13:20has rushed
00:13:22to deny
00:13:22the news
00:13:23but the discovery
00:13:25has given
00:13:26a new impetus
00:13:26to the theory
00:13:27that Hitler
00:13:28he could have escaped
00:13:29something that in its day
00:13:31I even believed
00:13:32Joseph Stalin
00:13:33who according
00:13:35Soviet documentation
00:13:36declassified
00:13:37moved important
00:13:39KGB resources
00:13:40to hunt
00:13:42whom he believed
00:13:44to a fugitive
00:13:52the KGB
00:13:53of the KGB
00:13:53a man
00:13:53wash
00:13:53wash
00:13:54wash
00:14:14Thanks for watching the video!
00:14:29Thanks for watching the video!
00:14:54And of course, we have to remember that the Soviets kept a lot of secrets, I think more than the
00:15:01Even the Vatican itself has kept many secrets.
00:15:03And well, despite the fact that Yuri Andropov, when he was president of the KGB, allowed it to be photographed for the first time
00:15:10This skull, which has now been analyzed,
00:15:13I think that has also helped a little to maintain the mystery.
00:15:16And now, of course, now is what you were saying at the beginning of the program, it's the beginning for many people,
00:15:21Since we're fans of these things, of the history of Nazism, the RAJ, and the thousand years, let's begin.
00:15:28to think.
00:15:28So, what did they find in Curious?
00:15:32Curious, to say the least.
00:15:34Curious.
00:15:34Santiago, you know very well that there are many people, many specialist writers, who maintain the fact of thesis that Hitler
00:15:40escaped, from which he fled,
00:15:41And they say, well, like other Nazi bigwigs of infamous memory and well-known names,
00:15:48Now I imagine they're excited, because this gives them some reason to be right, I imagine.
00:15:54Yes, because, although this statement may be very surprising, Hitler's death is not actually a documented historical fact.
00:16:01In other words, there is no proof, and the last vestige of material evidence that might have existed has just escaped us.
00:16:07between the fingers,
00:16:08which were precisely those mortal remains.
00:16:11So, really, the only evidence we have that this happened comes from personal testimonies, not many of them either.
00:16:20Two testimonies.
00:16:21We have two testimonies.
00:16:23Yes, yes.
00:16:24There's one thing I think you should see.
00:16:26They are a series of documents, papers, Santiago Camacho surprised me when he told me about it.
00:16:32I believe the evidence came from the FBI, because it seems to be—I didn't know that—
00:16:37In the early years, the feeling that Hitler was a fugitive lingered among the top leaders of the Union.
00:16:43Soviet.
00:16:45That feeling persisted in other documents and for years.
00:16:49There is some documentary evidence that at least suggested the possibility of his escape.
00:16:55Of course, the story of Hitler's death is gradually being established, but in the early stages everything
00:17:01It's confusion.
00:17:01Well, Berlin, during the first days of the occupation, was plastered with posters saying "Wanted: Adolf Hitler".
00:17:09even with reconstructions of the face he could have with a mustache, without a mustache, with his hair changed color.
00:17:16Those are the photographs that...
00:17:18Find them, find them, Eric.
00:17:19This is the photograph that was distributed by US counterintelligence.
00:17:23These are images of Hitler, but without the mustache, here with glasses.
00:17:29And these were the leaflets because the Americans, the counterintelligence division, did not believe that Hitler was dead.
00:17:35In other words, there's that feeling of disbelief regarding the banker's incident.
00:17:38Yes, yes.
00:17:38The first report, and there's the BBC recording from London about Hitler's death,
00:17:45The first thing the British are told is that the body found is not Hitler's.
00:17:49And even Josef Stalin died in 1953 still believing that Hitler was alive somewhere.
00:17:57And that's their main idea.
00:18:01But in the United States, thanks to that freedom of information act, we often find some gems.
00:18:09Some authors, especially the Argentinian Abel Basti, who has dedicated many years of his life
00:18:14to try to track Hitler down in Argentina, specifically in Patagonia,
00:18:19His thesis was confirmed when FBI documents were declassified in 1998.
00:18:27and it is discovered that in June 1945, July, sorry, 1945,
00:18:35Edgar Hoover receives a report from one of his agents specifying that Hitler
00:18:40He could have landed in Patagonia, specifically a few kilometers from the town of San Antonio.
00:18:46And that, well, he may be taking refuge precisely in the place where after so many years
00:18:52Abel Basti said that his escapades had been after he had theoretically died, right?
00:18:58Therefore, there are some strange pieces that seem to be gradually falling into place.
00:19:01Miguel Botella was telling me, while watching the report shortly about what happened at the bank,
00:19:07You find this theory very difficult, don't you?
00:19:10Hitler's escape in that way...
00:19:12I personally am used to dealing with evidence and not inferences.
00:19:17So the evidence, there is no positive evidence, but there is no negative evidence either.
00:19:21So you can't put together a whole movie at once either.
00:19:24Now, definitely not of any kind.
00:19:24Of course, obviously.
00:19:26So, well, it's likely, in my personal opinion, it's likely that Hitler escaped from the bunker.
00:19:35So that?
00:19:36It is more likely that in a Barnerian holocaust he did what he supposedly did.
00:19:43Actually, the testimonies from those closest to him say that he and Eva Braun committed suicide.
00:19:49and then they burned them both alive.
00:19:51Well, whether it's true or not, well, there's no reason to say no.
00:19:56Actually, I think that looking for something new outside is exactly the same as doing anything else.
00:20:05myth.
00:20:22I want you to see another image, another amazing image that has gone around the world.
00:20:25This is a body with a gunshot wound, and since they've mentioned doubles, it seems there's a story behind it.
00:20:31a double
00:20:31and a photo that was also shown as evidence that Hitler had committed suicide.
00:20:36Well, this is precisely the double that Eric was referring to.
00:20:41Not only is there this photograph, but several were taken and they are indeed circulating on the internet.
00:20:52There is often a lot of confusion, with people saying that this is Hitler's corpse.
00:20:55No, this is the corpse of Hitler's double and as such it is...
00:20:58That it existed and was real.
00:20:59Yes, yes.
00:20:59There were several.
00:21:00This is the corpse of one of them, who must have been caught in the middle of the whole catastrophe by some gentleman.
00:21:06in the chancellery.
00:21:08But it's actually a photograph of a body double. Plus, he clearly has a gunshot wound to the forehead.
00:21:14Miguel, the position of that shot has nothing to do with the position of the supposed skull that we have examined.
00:21:20Absolutely, and besides, it's almost incompatible with suicide. It's unlikely to be the case.
00:21:25Either he was shot from the front, or perhaps—the experts already know this—
00:21:31It might even be the exit wound from a shot to the back of the head during an execution.
00:21:35We're left with one important thing. Do you have any material there, Santi? What is it?
00:21:40We're looking at pictures of a sofa, right?
00:21:42Yes, this is a reproduction of something Eric just mentioned, and quite rightly so.
00:21:47They didn't just take the bodies, they took absolutely everything they could find.
00:21:51that had a connection to those deaths.
00:21:54And among other things they took the sofa where, in theory, both suicides occurred.
00:21:59Those sofas still have a piece of upholstery; I look very similar to this one.
00:22:05and that American experts from the University of Connecticut have also had access to it
00:22:10They have also analyzed the DNA remains that may have been left in these bloodstains.
00:22:17And he's not Hitler either.
00:22:18And they correspond to the same woman from the skull, but it's not Hitler.
00:22:22Of course, the blood samples also belong to an unidentified woman.
00:22:29We've also obtained exclusive statements, which is important.
00:22:32that they look at them very carefully, from the people who have extracted that information from the blood
00:22:37of the banker's last hours and the sinking.
00:22:41The DNA samples we were able to analyze belong to a woman, not a man.
00:22:48Therefore, it fully corroborates Nick's morphological studies on the skull.
00:22:54In my opinion, both samples converge and form a strong argument for believing that
00:23:03Both the remains and the skull belonged to a woman.
00:23:07And to top it all off, the DNA also says that Hitler certainly had nothing to do with it.
00:23:11Eric Frattini, one of the biggest mistakes in history?
00:23:14This false identification of such an important object, of such an important piece?
00:23:18Well, I believe what Miguel was saying, of course, the secrecy in which it has always operated.
00:23:23The Soviet Union and Russia currently maintain that same secrecy.
00:23:27The Federal Security Service has been a great help in maintaining all this secrecy.
00:23:31with regard to Hitler's remains.
00:23:36And I think that now, well, that at the University of Connecticut they have been able to, well, they have solved it
00:23:40one more mystery.
00:23:42But come on, I wouldn't go much further than saying whether Hitler is in Patagonia or is...
00:23:47in Brazil.
00:23:48It was there, wasn't it?
00:23:49Or he was, he was, because he was also a 56-year-old man, of course, and already with
00:23:55He already had very advanced Parkinson's disease.
00:23:58In other words, he would already be more than dead.
00:24:01But what's also curious, there's something very curious, I was in the United States very recently
00:24:05A book has just been published in the United States, written by an American researcher,
00:24:11I think it's from the Washington Post or the New York Times, which has tracked down the whole family
00:24:17Hitler in the United States, because he still has a lot of family in the United States, Hitler.
00:24:22With the surname Hitler, have they kept it or have some taken it away?
00:24:25Yes, many have taken it away, many have taken it away from him, but he has continued all the
00:24:28trace because in 1941, there is an FBI document, in 1941 the wife of a stepbrother
00:24:37Hitler sought asylum in the United States in 1941 and traveled with his son.
00:24:43So, of course, they are Hitler, they are Hitler, so they have already left all the
00:24:48Hitler's family trail.
00:24:50It is then said that some of these members were used for the DNA trace issue.
00:24:53who have some of Hitler's DNA.
00:24:55One last detail, some say, and especially in Argentina, that they are legion.
00:24:59who believe that, like other hunted criminals, they took refuge there, including Hitler, could
00:25:06to be that coveted piece for many, which was never located, they said that on that route
00:25:11Even a brief escape was speculated upon, as Santi said, with a short time in Spain.
00:25:16Yes, in fact, what the unorthodox version of this story says is that Hitler was able to escape.
00:25:26At the last minute, take a plane, a Junkers transport plane that would land in Barcelona
00:25:31where he would spend a few days until he clandestinely boarded the famous submarine that would have taken him
00:25:38to Patagonia.
00:25:40The curious thing is that there are witnesses to this story, witnesses located also in Patagonia.
00:25:47On our program, brother, on Milenio 3, we have reproduced some of his statements
00:25:52Some of the older people say they saw the submarine come out in front of their house.
00:25:58Another one recounted a meeting between Adolf Hitler and, curiously, they had to support him.
00:26:04because of Parkinson's and the Croatian fascist leader Ante Pavelik in a Buenos Aires hotel.
00:26:12Things that seem absolutely like something out of a novel.
00:26:14But the last thought I wanted to share with you about this is that I don't see it happening, I'm leaving.
00:26:19Putting that aside for a moment, I don't see it as a completely implausible story.
00:26:23Let's remember that months before, the Nazi leaders had devised very successful escape plans.
00:26:29in some cases.
00:26:30Martin Bormann, for example, dedicated himself to making all dental records disappear.
00:26:36of all the major Nazi authorities, precisely to avoid the subsequent identification of corpses.
00:26:43Martin Bormann himself disappeared, Josef Mengele...
00:26:47To Eichmann, who is in Argentina.
00:26:48And a total that could be estimated in the thousands, and I'm not exaggerating, of people liable for very serious offenses
00:26:57crimes against humanity.
00:27:01If all those plans were made so far in advance, with so much premeditation, and in
00:27:06Some notable cases were so successful, what couldn't have been done to preserve them?
00:27:11the life of the leader of all that?
00:27:13It's a possibility to consider.
00:27:14So we'll leave it with the question hanging in the air; what we've learned is that
00:27:20Objectively, Miguel Erick, with a "yes" and a "no," there is indeed no evidence of the
00:27:25Adolf Hitler's existence right now, of dying in that way.
00:27:28There is not a single piece of evidence, nor a single physical thing that can be identified with Hitler.
00:27:32No, because the only ones...
00:27:33Like a ghost.
00:27:34The only two testimonies were those of his secretary and Hitler's aide-de-camp, who even
00:27:41They say they didn't even get into the room.
00:27:43Hitler's assistant closes the door, leaving Hitler and Abraham inside to
00:27:47They commit suicide, and when he hears the gunshot is when they go in to collect the bodies.
00:27:52take them out of the bunker...
00:27:54What happened in those moments, right?
00:27:56Second, they changed history.
00:27:57Miguel Botella, as always, thank you very much for bringing us such interesting material.
00:28:01Erick, as always, best of luck with your novels and research, thank you very much.
00:28:05Thanks a lot.
00:28:06And Santi, we're left with the question.
00:28:07That's nothing.
00:28:08What happened to Hitler?
00:28:09So far, there is zero physical evidence of its existence.
00:28:13Let's look at some other, more pleasant, different images, which have also brought us viewers.
00:28:19Carmen, images from the fourth millennium.
00:28:21That's right, we're going all the way to Granada.
00:28:24Apparently, unidentified flying objects have been moving through the skies of this city.
00:28:29Let's look at those images on a stormy night.
00:28:35The night is stormy again, now you'll see why I say that, and suddenly some lights,
00:28:41There are also lights that appear to be rotating.
00:28:44There they are, reddish in color.
00:28:47To be honest, we haven't been able to draw many conclusions from this video.
00:28:51Firstly, because there is no building or anything that tells us where those rays are occurring.
00:28:57In heaven, naturally.
00:28:58But at what height?
00:29:00How high was this object that also appears to be approaching the storm?
00:29:05It looks like a vehicle, a carousel of lights, but of course, supposedly the witness says he filmed it in the sky.
00:29:09Yes, they told us that they had filmed it on a stormy night, and that they took out the camera precisely because of how magnificent it was.
00:29:18What were those lightning flashes that night?
00:29:21And they saw some lights moving across the sky, there they are.
00:29:26Could it be some kind of phenomenon associated with the storm, or something else as it seems?
00:29:31Okay, we'll leave it there so they can give us some information.
00:29:32That is.
00:29:33And we are already receiving, and we are very grateful for it, a lot of personal videos, videos with research.
00:29:39We repeat, they are looking at ways to contact this program, the mystery ship.
00:29:44Be correspondents for the fourth millennium, tell us about your investigations, point out places of power, hermitages, archaeological finds, mysteries,
00:29:52And whatever you want, whatever you think you can show us for the interest of all viewers.
00:29:58And the videos we've received, many people saw the lightning, well, they're from wonderful storms.
00:30:04Beautiful storms, also, because of the colors.
00:30:07Look, we're in Alagón, in Zaragoza. Luis Albalate sent it to us from there.
00:30:12This video shows a storm that was described as tremendous.
00:30:18The whole city trembled with color. We can really see the lights here, can't we? The city lights.
00:30:24right down there.
00:30:24But it's impressive, isn't it?
00:30:26It's impressive.
00:30:27But that's not all. They've even sent us photographs. Photographs that came to us from Benidorm,
00:30:33which also showed us how a dry electrical storm had fallen in the middle of summer.
00:30:40That's what our viewer told us, the one who had sent us the photographs, imagine that.
00:30:44The thing is, there was no rain, there was only...
00:30:46There was no rain. He says it wasn't raining, but instead the sky looks like it's about to open up.
00:30:51the darkness of hell.
00:30:52You're seeing it.
00:30:52My goodness, this is pure photo artistry. Who did I send it to?
00:30:54Look, a friend sent it to us from Benidorm.
00:30:59Benidorm, oh my goodness. What an impression!
00:31:02Look, look there.
00:31:02You have to have it there in the window of the mystery ship.
00:31:03It looks like it's even impacting the cloud, huh? The photos are beautiful.
00:31:07And also, thank you very much for participating with your material, because as you can see it's worthwhile, even on an artistic level.
00:31:13And a rather eerie night, huh?
00:31:15Yes. It's not that what's coming is artistic. This photo impresses me. You'll see it.
00:31:19Let's go to the photograph that Ángel Serrano Casal sent us.
00:31:22As we can see, they're in a procession. There it is. Let's see if the image appears. There it is. A procession.
00:31:30Here we see the Virgin Mary, right? Those very narrow streets, the balconies. And we're going to point out where the anomaly is.
00:31:37Look, look. I'm going to zoom in because this one, honestly, is a little scary.
00:31:43But come on, I'm sure that now our cameras are capturing it almost better than we are, and we have it very...
00:31:49near.
00:31:50They will see the expression of it, which looks like a child, an old man, I don't know.
00:31:54He looks more like an old man to me. His eyes seem hollow, because you can't see the pupils.
00:31:59The nose, the mouth. This would be the head, but we don't see the body either. Or it's very blurry.
00:32:07They saw nothing.
00:32:08They didn't see anything. They were watching the procession. They took several photographs, as we can see.
00:32:12It's above the portal.
00:32:13About the portal.
00:32:14Look at it. There it is.
00:32:15Furthermore, it's elevated. I'm going to enlarge the area that Guillermo León highlighted, because with this texture of
00:32:23Colors, let's see the difference between the original photograph and the retouching we've applied.
00:32:29You know what this reminds me of? The typical psychoimage. Do you remember them? That kind of vision, like through a fog...
00:32:34Television, and what is seen and unseen. But it is perfectly perceptible.
00:32:38There it is. Okay, so what do the analyses tell us?
00:32:41What are they telling us? Well, they're telling us it had to be someone who was right under this portal, one of these.
00:32:50balconies that we are seeing. And if we go to the original photo, to the first one, we will see that here there are
00:32:57Some candles, right?
00:32:59And that image is reflected here. Well, the reflection of those lights, with the whole scene that was there.
00:33:06The brightness has caused the face of someone who was right below, up there, to be reflected.
00:33:11It would be reflected as a nebula.
00:33:12Yes, of course, but it would be reflected as a shadow, wouldn't it? Not with eyes and a mouth, I mean, come on.
00:33:17If we notice, and I'm going to zoom in on this original area, no, but the light does make a difference.
00:33:24many times it functions like a mirror.
00:33:26Look, do you see here?
00:33:28Yeah.
00:33:29Well, it would be this character. We've identified him. There he is, looking directly at the camera. If we superimpose the image of
00:33:38This gentleman's description matches what's shown above perfectly. Solution.
00:33:43Speechless, speechless. Let's move on now to much more horrible beings. Beings much more from fiction or from...
00:33:51reality.
00:33:52Look at these images and give your opinion on why we're moving on to a section that I think is going to cause a stir.
00:34:00I have been given the gift of documenting the events that have fallen into my lap.
00:34:05Let's talk.
00:34:16Okay, that's it.
00:34:19I have been given the gift of documenting the events that have fallen into my lap.
00:35:02And now we find ourselves in our movie screening room of the mystery ship.
00:35:07I thought about it. Ready to have a good time or a bad time, depending on how you look at it and your perspective.
00:35:14Because these films always have a connection to reality. And we're very interested in them. Absolutely.
00:35:20We have an exceptional guide. We are especially grateful to him because he is currently caught up in the whirlwind of the International Film Festival.
00:35:27Sitges Horror Film Festival.
00:35:28He's its director. Ángel Sala, welcome.
00:35:30Good night.
00:35:30I'm going to ask you a question. At the same time, I ask my colleagues to dim the lights and begin.
00:35:36with the projection.
00:35:37Angel, right now the public, our public is seeing some very powerful images that I think are becoming another
00:35:45type of terror about 40 years ago.
00:35:47What is a zombie?
00:35:48Well, a zombie is many things, but let's say that if we consider the meaning of the word that comes from roots
00:35:54In African cultures, a zombie is a kind of lifeless body, a walking spirit.
00:35:59Which then passed into Haitian tradition from Africa, to the black slaves who created a very strong religion there
00:36:05own, voodoo, santeria, voodoo, all these pagan religions.
00:36:09With a mix of Christian elements, they gradually become much more complicated, and a zombie is a punishment.
00:36:17In other words, a person who loses their will and becomes enslaved.
00:36:20This is also somewhat parallel to what happened to these people, who had suffered slavery and the
00:36:24The punishment was to suffer eternal slavery.
00:36:26In other words, a kind of automaton without will.
00:36:28Exactly.
00:36:29Neither alive nor dead.
00:36:30Between life and death, in a very dark place.
00:36:32I'd like you to tell me, and we'll get straight to the point, to the first film that truly terrified me.
00:36:37to the whole world.
00:36:39There are surprises, you'll see.
00:36:41But we're seeing some very recent images, aren't we?
00:36:44A film that tells the story of zombies from a different perspective.
00:36:50Yes, well, we're seeing images from George Romero's Diary of the Dead.
00:36:53George Romero's penultimate film, in which he has made six films on the zombie theme.
00:36:57And he was the great inventor of the modern zombie, or the modern living dead.
00:37:01Well, in the year 1968.
00:37:04A mythical year, the same year as 2001, Rosemary's Baby.
00:37:07And a year that revolutionized fantasy cinema in an incredible way.
00:37:11From a trilogy?
00:37:12A tremendous trilogy.
00:37:13And Planet of the Apes, too.
00:37:15In other words, there's another one there.
00:37:16But in Night of the Living Dead, with almost zero budget,
00:37:21with characters who worked almost as amateurs, in black and white,
00:37:26It sparked a revolution, why?
00:37:28Because it stripped the living dead, who until then had been the vampire.
00:37:32Almost elegant, a little.
00:37:34Elegant, seductive, from the poetry of the genre,
00:37:36and it turned it into something dirty, rotten, repellent,
00:37:39and that it fed on human flesh.
00:37:42Taking on some of the characteristics of a ghoul,
00:37:44of the character who walked through cemeteries resurrected
00:37:48and it fed on carrion, on dead meat.
00:37:50In other words, the zombie was not only neither alive nor dead,
00:37:54This movement we are experiencing, Ángel, so characteristic,
00:37:57The zombies are slow, aren't they?
00:37:59Clear.
00:37:59Wandering, and that generated much more displeasure among the public,
00:38:02Because, of course, the scene of going after the live one was prolonged.
00:38:06It dragged on.
00:38:06And this I, Romero, control like no one else.
00:38:08On the contrary, it manages to be scary with something that is very slow.
00:38:11and that you could escape,
00:38:12But the accumulation of these types of characters surrounding you,
00:38:17that act like a pack, like a pack of hyenas.
00:38:20As if there were an order, right?
00:38:22An order, a kind of very perverse and very calculated automatism,
00:38:26and that slowness indicates that they are not of this world,
00:38:29who belong to a world where physical abilities have already deteriorated,
00:38:33which is death, the world of death,
00:38:35They were very frightening and gave the spectacle a kind of repulsion.
00:38:38No, we're talking about death.
00:38:39And death always produces a feeling of rejection in the viewer.
00:38:42However, little by little, the concept of zombies changed.
00:38:45It changed, and now we see them running in the latest movies.
00:38:50not Romero's, but those of other directors,
00:38:52simply because now the zombie is no longer an undead creature,
00:38:55What's more, an infected person, almost a rabid infected person.
00:38:59The topic of viruses, right?
00:39:00Present.
00:39:01Present in today's society as one of the great fears,
00:39:03of the great paranoias of contemporary urban society.
00:39:06That's what I love about chatting with Ángel Sala,
00:39:09that a film, a few sequences, what might remain just a scare or an impression,
00:39:14It has so many layers, so many perspectives behind it.
00:39:17For example, George Romero presents this vision,
00:39:22The framing changes slightly, the theme is the same, the images are tremendous.
00:39:26But the issue is seen through the lens of reporters' cameras.
00:39:29Yes, that's what George Romero wanted to do in Diary of the Dead.
00:39:33It's about asking what would happen if what happened in '68 were to happen again.
00:39:37that is, the resurrection of the dead,
00:39:39from the perspective of current technology, the camera, and the media.
00:39:43And he makes a film that portrays the invasion of the living dead.
00:39:47through the camera.
00:39:49How does the camera mediate this terrifying situation?
00:39:51and it creates a metalinguistic game, a film within a film,
00:39:57which is very interesting.
00:39:58There are two questions, Angel.
00:39:59First, why this obsession of a man
00:40:02which completely changes the world of cinema,
00:40:04like George Romero in '68,
00:40:05Why dedicate your life to these same characters?
00:40:09And secondly, there is also a kind of prophecy.
00:40:12In the end, society, as you say, rotten,
00:40:15the terrible society, the bloodthirsty dead,
00:40:17They win, they almost always win, or they are about to.
00:40:21They are about to bring the world back to normal and rational.
00:40:23to the ultimate consequences.
00:40:25And one more thing, you are a personal friend of his.
00:40:28What does this person have that makes him dedicate his life to this?
00:40:30I am fortunate to know him very well,
00:40:31And he's an excellent person, I mean, he's a lovely guy.
00:40:35And I believe, he always says that he came up with the idea,
00:40:38along with other friends from that time,
00:40:40Tom Sabini, who was a makeup artist,
00:40:41who had gone to Vietnam.
00:40:43So, the idea came from the horrors
00:40:45that they had seen in the war.
00:40:46And how American society in the 1960s,
00:40:49late 1970s, early 1970s
00:40:50There was so much social violence,
00:40:52so much upheaval,
00:40:54who saw violence on television
00:40:56practically every day,
00:40:57and suffer to say that we were becoming
00:40:59in zombies, in walking corpses.
00:41:01That the very destruction of the world
00:41:03It was in our own social system,
00:41:06and that one day they were going to get up,
00:41:08They were going to come after us,
00:41:09as the movie played,
00:41:10Barbara, they're coming for you.
00:41:11And at the most unexpected moment,
00:41:13We had a bit of that Trojan horse thing going on.
00:41:16The destruction of the world was within our societies.
00:41:19They weren't extraterrestrials,
00:41:20They were not paranormal phenomena,
00:41:22as in the previous section,
00:41:23They weren't strange colors or forces
00:41:26coming from other worlds or dimensions,
00:41:27It was us,
00:41:30rising up, resurrecting,
00:41:31and eager for revenge.
00:41:33There is one thing that is impressive,
00:41:36as Ángel told me before this screening,
00:41:39which has left me speechless, hasn't it?
00:41:40There is also a change starting from a key date,
00:41:42a date that changes the world,
00:41:43and some images that are going viral around the world
00:41:45like no other,
00:41:47and that are also related,
00:41:48Somehow, for the terror with the zombies.
00:41:50On September 11, in New York,
00:41:52all those hordes of people fleeing
00:41:55of the destruction of the Twin Towers,
00:41:57dust covers,
00:41:59with some slightly incorrect movements,
00:42:02disoriented,
00:42:03looking up at the sky without knowing what was happening,
00:42:06They were kind of like zombies,
00:42:07They were the living dead, almost resurrected.
00:42:10after a tragedy.
00:42:12And that has influenced cinema in a terrible way.
00:42:14Starting September 11th,
00:42:15The zombie genre is making a comeback.
00:42:17to be redundant.
00:42:18From that moment on.
00:42:19We have movies or 28 Days Later,
00:42:22its sequels,
00:42:23the remake of Dawn of the Dead,
00:42:25where the zombies are much more visceral,
00:42:28are contaminated,
00:42:29It all stems from a virus
00:42:30which could very well be a terrorist attack,
00:42:33The genre has changed the way we see horror.
00:42:36Terror has become much more global,
00:42:39much more paranoid,
00:42:40and without a concrete explanation,
00:42:42and above all, very sudden.
00:42:45And very believable.
00:42:46And very believable.
00:42:47And it happens in a matter of hours.
00:42:49In a matter of hours,
00:42:49The apocalypse may be just around the corner.
00:42:52and it could be inside your house,
00:42:53as happened in the remake of Dawn of the Dead.
00:42:55In other words, everything has been done much faster.
00:42:58That's perhaps why the dead run.
00:42:59What would be the first zombie?
00:43:01I don't know if it's from the history of cinema,
00:43:02but perhaps from the history, for example, of Christianity.
00:43:05And there's something very curious about that, isn't there, Angel?
00:43:07There are even unexpected zombies.
00:43:09Yes, well, we have Lazarus, don't we?
00:43:12I've always been fascinated by that episode in the Bible
00:43:16And how has it also been portrayed in film, interestingly enough, isn't it?
00:43:18Because it's not an episode that's talked about much, that's been discussed a lot.
00:43:22I've had two movies
00:43:22which give a somewhat frightening view
00:43:24of what was and must have been terrifying
00:43:26the resurrection of a dead person,
00:43:28if it happened just as the Bible says.
00:43:30And it is in Richard Fleischer's Barabbas,
00:43:32a film with Anthony Quinn,
00:43:35where we saw Lazarus almost,
00:43:36After the resurrection, he lived with his sisters.
00:43:39And he was a zombie.
00:43:40And he was a zombie.
00:43:41He was made up like a living dead man.
00:43:43with almost no will
00:43:43or made into a terrifying image in the last temptation of Christ
00:43:46when Lazarus is resurrected.
00:43:48A hand appears that is very reminiscent of Romero's films.
00:43:51And Scorsese himself said
00:43:52that escaped in Romero's films
00:43:54to recreate that scene in the last temptation of Christ.
00:43:58In other words, we were talking about a living dead person,
00:44:00of a zombie,
00:44:01And the Bible gives no further clues as to what happened to Lazarus.
00:44:05But in Scorsese's film
00:44:07It seems he was rejected by the people,
00:44:10because it was like an eyelash.
00:44:11It's a good topic to explore, isn't it?
00:44:12It's a good topic.
00:44:13A man in the year 68,
00:44:15black and white,
00:44:16with very limited resources,
00:44:17It changes the history of horror cinema.
00:44:18For 40 years
00:44:19We keep dwelling on that deep fear
00:44:21that originates from very ancient cultures
00:44:24where they truly believe in zombification.
00:44:27What will the next lesson be?
00:44:28Which movie will give us real clues to the mystery?
00:44:31Well, we'll have to wait.
00:44:32a few days to find out.
00:44:34We're left with these striking images.
00:44:38It won't fall, damn it!
00:44:40It won't fall!
00:44:44Thank you, Angel, as always.
00:44:46Anyway, with these images
00:44:47It's no surprise that he has some nightmares.
00:44:50They go directly to the unconscious and the subconscious.
00:44:54Let's move on to other topics,
00:44:55with other images,
00:44:56with more content on the mystery ship.
00:45:21This that you have just witnessed
00:45:22in a small flash
00:45:23It is not a dream or a mirage.
00:45:25They seem like beings from another world,
00:45:27perhaps monsters,
00:45:29hallucinations,
00:45:30engraved in the mountains
00:45:31near Nazca
00:45:33and that are even older.
00:45:36Last week
00:45:38we were flying over
00:45:38the most famous enigma,
00:45:40perhaps,
00:45:41of America.
00:45:42The lines
00:45:44kilometers.
00:45:45But
00:45:45I'm going to show you something
00:45:47that may interest you.
00:45:49And that even
00:45:50spinning a bit
00:45:51with the previous topic
00:45:51It could have something to do with
00:45:53with the concept
00:45:54zombification
00:45:55and slavery
00:45:56beyond life.
00:45:58Let me explain.
00:45:59We're going to travel
00:46:00to the Hill of the Astronauts.
00:46:02It is a very little-visited place,
00:46:03Almost no one flies over it,
00:46:05Perhaps because it's full
00:46:06of figures
00:46:07that don't fit
00:46:07in no catalog,
00:46:08in no conventional explanation.
00:46:10Round eyes,
00:46:12strange antennas,
00:46:13belts.
00:46:14What on earth are they doing there?
00:46:16Engravings before
00:46:17of birth
00:46:17of Jesus of Nazareth.
00:46:19Why there
00:46:19And looking at the sky?
00:46:22We are looking for
00:46:22the meaning
00:46:23of all this.
00:46:24We were there investigating
00:46:25and we even went
00:46:26several millennia ago.
00:46:28They'll understand now.
00:46:28with our research
00:46:29in the form of a report.
00:46:32This that I have in my hands
00:46:33It is a Nazca ceramic.
00:46:36from our collection,
00:46:37of that culture
00:46:38who lived
00:46:39towards that year zero
00:46:40of our era
00:46:41throughout this desert.
00:46:42Why am I showing it to you?
00:46:44First, because they appear
00:46:45with this naive style
00:46:46typical of children,
00:46:47almost,
00:46:47but with great strength
00:46:48the priests
00:46:50who performed their rituals
00:46:51in these same lines
00:46:52before these same beings
00:46:54come from heaven.
00:46:55Look how curious.
00:46:57We are in a desert
00:46:58very dry,
00:46:58the driest in the world
00:46:59and yet
00:47:00sharks
00:47:01and the orcas,
00:47:02aggressive,
00:47:03with teeth,
00:47:04They always come up.
00:47:06Sometimes it seems
00:47:06that have fallen from the sky.
00:47:08Flying beings,
00:47:09a constant.
00:47:10And furthermore,
00:47:11Look at the detail,
00:47:12please.
00:47:13The Nazca priest
00:47:14It has a head
00:47:16decapitated
00:47:16in his hands.
00:47:17Good,
00:47:18It is culture
00:47:19of the trophy heads.
00:47:20At that time,
00:47:21his head was cut off
00:47:23of sacrificed
00:47:24delivered
00:47:24to those deities
00:47:25and it was believed
00:47:26that the priest
00:47:27possessed,
00:47:28like a slave
00:47:29from beyond,
00:47:30that soul.
00:47:31Zombies long before
00:47:33from Haiti,
00:47:34long before
00:47:34from Africa.
00:47:36But we're going to go
00:47:37a little further on.
00:47:38Let's get to know
00:47:39those other lines.
00:47:40We could say
00:47:41the poor lines,
00:47:43the sisters
00:47:44more discreet
00:47:45of Nazca.
00:47:46Yeah,
00:47:46but much more surprising.
00:47:48This is an exclusive
00:47:49And I think that,
00:47:51Or at least I hope so.
00:47:52that excites them
00:47:53like us.
00:47:54We're back
00:47:55to the investigation.
00:47:57Hill
00:47:57of the astronauts.
00:48:06Last week,
00:48:08we told them
00:48:09the profound impression
00:48:10that produced us
00:48:11step and feel
00:48:11the mythical lines
00:48:12of Nazca.
00:48:14With these irons
00:48:15or sheets
00:48:16on our feet,
00:48:17so as not to touch
00:48:18a single stone
00:48:18of this fabulous mosaic,
00:48:20all questions
00:48:21explode
00:48:22in our minds.
00:48:23What's the point of all this?
00:48:25What gods
00:48:26Do they appear here?
00:48:28Really
00:48:28It is the memory
00:48:29ancient
00:48:29of something very special
00:48:30what happened
00:48:31on this same soil?
00:48:34We have investigated,
00:48:35read and consulted
00:48:36and with that background
00:48:38we are heading
00:48:39to a place
00:48:39that barely comes out
00:48:40on the maps
00:48:41and that is no longer visited.
00:48:48A village
00:48:49and its secret.
00:48:51Perhaps the great secret
00:48:52that explains in part
00:48:53the enigma
00:48:54of the lines
00:48:55of Nazca.
00:49:10Twelve years ago
00:49:11I had the opportunity
00:49:12of arriving
00:49:13until Chichitara,
00:49:14but then
00:49:15There was life.
00:49:16Now at sunset
00:49:17the place
00:49:18It shrinks the soul.
00:49:20There's hardly anyone left.
00:49:21Only silence.
00:49:26We have arrived
00:49:27to a village
00:49:27who looks dead.
00:49:31We're looking for something
00:49:32among the rocks,
00:49:33between rocks
00:49:33and roads
00:49:34that are released
00:49:35through the mountains.
00:49:37Here's some code
00:49:37very old
00:49:38what does that have to do with it
00:49:39with us
00:49:39and with the strange beings
00:49:41drawn
00:49:42throughout
00:49:42of the desert.
00:49:46Definitely
00:49:47They are strange
00:49:47portraits
00:49:48of the age
00:49:48stone.
00:49:49The most romantic
00:49:50they would say that
00:49:51of memories
00:49:51of the future
00:49:52engravings
00:49:52on the stones.
00:49:53Stones that are
00:49:54crumble
00:49:55here in Chichitara.
00:49:56A route
00:49:57impassable
00:49:58practically
00:49:59an hour and a half
00:50:00from the village
00:50:01from Palpa.
00:50:02Mining
00:50:03clandestine
00:50:03and the last ones
00:50:04earthquakes
00:50:05They are going bankrupt
00:50:06this heritage.
00:50:07Ten thousand years
00:50:08before the lines
00:50:09of Nazca.
00:50:09Ten millennia
00:50:10before those
00:50:11by said builders
00:50:12other men
00:50:13and women
00:50:13They looked at the sky
00:50:15And they recorded this.
00:50:17Beings with helmets
00:50:17resplendent
00:50:18with what they seem to us
00:50:19primitive antennae
00:50:20They connect with something.
00:50:22Small eyes
00:50:22clefts in the neck
00:50:24in a way
00:50:25who knows
00:50:25if we get excited
00:50:26We can say it
00:50:27of primitive hatches.
00:50:29Memories of the Future
00:50:30extraordinary beings
00:50:32that don't look alike
00:50:33to no other
00:50:33human or animal.
00:50:35They lie here
00:50:36Why are they looking at the sky?
00:50:40Why did they leave them?
00:50:41engravings
00:50:42Was it that long ago?
00:50:51Helmets of Light
00:50:52strange faces
00:50:54gestures and forms
00:50:56worthy of science fiction
00:50:57rock engravings
00:50:58looking at the sky
00:51:00thousands of years ago.
00:51:03In the silence
00:51:04we contemplate all this
00:51:05understanding
00:51:06that the lines
00:51:07and Nazca figures
00:51:07they are only
00:51:08the ultimate form
00:51:09and more refined
00:51:10attempted
00:51:11communication
00:51:12with the gods.
00:51:14With some gods
00:51:15disturbing
00:51:17unknown
00:51:18that perhaps
00:51:19descended from the heavens
00:51:20and his memory
00:51:21It remained here
00:51:23as a model
00:51:24or pattern
00:51:24perpetuated
00:51:25in material
00:51:26almost immortal.
00:51:28A memory
00:51:29an old invocation
00:51:30that nobody visits anymore
00:51:31and that perhaps
00:51:32It is the first chronicle
00:51:34of some extraordinary
00:51:35meeting.
00:51:44Night falls
00:51:45and the shadows
00:51:46loom
00:51:47about the dead people
00:51:49That's why they startle us
00:51:50some unexpected laughter
00:51:51They are two girls
00:51:53two little ones
00:51:54who play
00:51:54in the middle
00:51:55from this silence
00:51:56at the back
00:51:57the church
00:51:58never finished
00:51:59is a witness
00:52:00from our conversation
00:52:02their games
00:52:02they align us
00:52:03and their voices
00:52:04they return us
00:52:05little by little
00:52:06to reality
00:52:13our goal
00:52:14as soon as I return
00:52:15sunlight
00:52:16is to fly over
00:52:17all this region
00:52:17with our helicopter
00:52:19because here
00:52:20There are also lines
00:52:21gigantic figures
00:52:23and forgotten
00:52:24but much older
00:52:27are the first matrices
00:52:28of this mystery
00:52:30of the desert
00:52:31the hill
00:52:32of the astronauts
00:52:33That's what they call it.
00:52:34the locals
00:52:35although around here
00:52:36no one flies anymore
00:52:37this is far away
00:52:38of any circuit
00:52:39tourist
00:52:41But what we're going to see
00:52:42perhaps they will be impressed
00:52:43a lot more
00:52:44that our flight
00:52:45from last week
00:52:46we take off
00:52:59They are the poor figures
00:53:00the unknown ones
00:53:02those that don't come out
00:53:03in no brochure
00:53:04Perhaps because they don't look alike
00:53:05nothing
00:53:05nor anyone
00:53:07This is the territory
00:53:08of the humanoid figures
00:53:09And they're going to find out.
00:53:12about six minutes
00:53:13at one thousand eight hundred feet
00:53:14we found nearby
00:53:15from palpa
00:53:16to this gigantic
00:53:18man wearing a hat
00:53:18big hat
00:53:20It holds something
00:53:21in your hands
00:53:22Some have named it
00:53:23like the shaman
00:53:26we penetrated their territory
00:53:28checking that the shadow
00:53:29from our helicopter
00:53:30It's a toy
00:53:31in his presence
00:53:44in the deserts
00:53:45from palpa
00:53:46There are also clues
00:53:47immense lines
00:53:48over the mountains
00:53:50some of them come out
00:53:51bulbs
00:53:52or tentacles
00:53:52or legs
00:53:53drawn with perfection
00:53:55as if the apu
00:53:56or sacred hill
00:53:57were alive
00:53:58an impressive work
00:54:00and only visible
00:54:02from the heights
00:54:03much older
00:54:04I repeat
00:54:05that the famous
00:54:06Nazca Lines
00:54:13two giants
00:54:15guard
00:54:15these mountain ranges
00:54:17exceed
00:54:18the two hundred meters
00:54:19long
00:54:20It's difficult.
00:54:22describe them
00:54:22But they are powerful
00:54:24enigmatic
00:54:25empty eyes
00:54:27as emissaries
00:54:28otherworldly
00:54:28like nightmares
00:54:30or visions
00:54:30that return
00:54:31to wake up
00:54:32at our pace
00:54:35helmets with rays
00:54:36that amount
00:54:36to heaven
00:54:37square faces
00:54:38the interpretation
00:54:39It is up to you to decide.
00:54:41but
00:54:42What are you looking at here?
00:54:45one of these colossi
00:54:47He carries a mace
00:54:48or baton of command
00:54:48the attitude that reflects
00:54:50It's not friendly.
00:54:51as if he didn't like them
00:54:53the intruders
00:54:53of the future
00:54:54Another shaman?
00:54:56A great sorcerer?
00:54:57or something stranger
00:54:58that no scientist
00:55:00dares to mention
00:55:10in palpa
00:55:10as you can see
00:55:11There are also lines
00:55:14thousands
00:55:15many of them
00:55:16They haven't even been swept
00:55:17and accumulate dust
00:55:18of two millennia
00:55:20some formations
00:55:22They are unusual
00:55:22points
00:55:23perforations
00:55:24straight lines
00:55:25and spirals
00:55:26it gives the impression
00:55:27that all this
00:55:28immense desert
00:55:29He tells us
00:55:29Tells us something
00:55:30sometimes with signs
00:55:31so graphic
00:55:32like this arrow
00:55:35an arrow
00:55:36which tells us
00:55:37where are they?
00:55:37the most extraordinary beings
00:55:39as if they
00:55:40were the most important
00:55:52what they are going to see
00:55:53friends of fourth millennium
00:55:54has been systematically
00:55:56forgotten
00:55:56by many scientists
00:55:57and researchers
00:56:00They were not animals
00:56:01did not represent
00:56:02constellations
00:56:03nor cataloged deities
00:56:04They are very difficult
00:56:06to fit
00:56:06Perhaps that's why
00:56:08hardly anyone
00:56:09fly this way
00:56:13We are on the hill
00:56:14of the astronauts
00:56:16in the same vertical
00:56:18a schematic face
00:56:19he greets us
00:56:20with her anguish
00:56:20trapped in time
00:56:22It's almost covered
00:56:23because of the dust
00:56:24But we see it
00:56:25There it is
00:56:31a little further on
00:56:32a group of beings
00:56:34helmets
00:56:34antennas
00:56:35belts
00:56:36open mouths
00:56:38who shout
00:56:38and eyes always
00:56:39excessive
00:56:40Who drew them?
00:56:41to be seen
00:56:42from the sky?
00:56:44Who did it have to be?
00:56:45the supervisor
00:56:46of all this?
00:56:48Who was supposed to check?
00:56:50that the message
00:56:51transmitted
00:56:51Was it the right one?
00:56:53in short
00:56:54friends
00:56:55Who are they?
00:56:56These beings?
00:56:58Was it drawn
00:56:59the entire desert
00:56:59For them?
00:57:08glowing eyes
00:57:10They're watching us
00:57:10arms
00:57:11and staffs
00:57:13and also
00:57:14some hats
00:57:15floating above
00:57:16of the heads
00:57:16and these expressions
00:57:18that cause us concern
00:57:20looking at them with the naked eye
00:57:21bird
00:57:21broken legs
00:57:23now we understand
00:57:24Why were they baptized?
00:57:25as astronauts
00:57:27and nobody
00:57:29until today
00:57:29he told them
00:57:30to the inhabitants
00:57:31of the quiet
00:57:31town of Palpa
00:57:32Who are they?
00:57:33these gods
00:57:34that they have so close?
00:57:35Perhaps that's why
00:57:36They don't visit them
00:57:39some are
00:57:40so schematic
00:57:41that simply
00:57:43They call them robots
00:57:46this one you see now
00:57:48uncovered
00:57:48in the late 1970s
00:57:49They baptized him
00:57:50directly
00:57:51like the alien
00:57:52and so
00:57:53They keep calling him
00:57:54but you
00:57:55What do you think?
00:57:56What kind of human
00:57:57animal or god
00:57:58This is what we have
00:57:59Right before our eyes?
00:58:04seldom
00:58:06They were filmed by the camera
00:58:08the impression we received
00:58:09I assure you
00:58:10It's difficult to describe
00:58:11in simple words
00:58:12and to you
00:58:13What impression
00:58:14they give them
00:58:14this strange family
00:58:15recorded
00:58:16before the year 0
00:58:17of our era?
00:58:20Whose are you?
00:58:21portraits
00:58:22beings from Palpa?
00:58:23From what universe
00:58:24What idea did you come up with?
00:58:25Will we find out?
00:58:27some day?
00:58:37one more time
00:58:38There are no answers.
00:58:39we are exactly
00:58:40just like in the beginning
00:58:43I don't know if it's frustrating
00:58:44But I am convinced
00:58:45that this
00:58:46It's worth watching
00:58:48see it and feel it
00:58:50I don't know if they are beings
00:58:51come from the stars
00:58:52visions of trance
00:58:54or primitive gods
00:58:55fertility
00:58:57I don't know anything
00:59:00that I do know
00:59:01It is from his forgetfulness
00:59:02as disconcerting figures
00:59:04that don't fit
00:59:04in established theories
00:59:06or the mention
00:59:07always marginal
00:59:08under parameters
00:59:10simple
00:59:10in the most learned books
00:59:11And it's happened far too often already.
00:59:13and in too many places
00:59:15of the world
00:59:16where I have perceived
00:59:17the same attitude
00:59:17the same contempt
00:59:21too many times
00:59:21It is the same silence
00:59:22in the face of the unknown
00:59:24although I will be frank with you
00:59:25few things
00:59:26They have touched me so deeply
00:59:27few have made an impact
00:59:29so much my heart
00:59:29like these that are hiding
00:59:31in the southern desert of Peru
00:59:34an inhospitable place
00:59:35and fascinating
00:59:35at the same time
00:59:37an enclave
00:59:38where
00:59:38who knows
00:59:39Yes, it's been a long time.
00:59:40Something happened
00:59:41really important
00:59:43something key
00:59:44for our humanity
00:59:48something
00:59:49that perhaps
00:59:50we never find out
00:59:51to the delight of some
00:59:52and the sadness of others
00:59:54and the sadness of others
00:59:56and the sadness of others
00:59:58and the sadness of others
00:59:59and the sadness of others
01:00:00and the sadness of others