- 8 minutes ago
Rosecrans Vic dropped by Klein. Ally. Show. to discuss his recent, suspiciously timed exit from Power 106. After building the Brown Bag Podcast independently for five years and taking it to morning radio, Vic found himself shoved out of his own creation. He breaks down the glaring red flags of being iced out of management meetings, and a $500,000 offer from Spotify. Vic spills the details on surviving radio's cutthroat reality.
Category
🎈
FunTranscript
00:00Fitting song, I Hate Everything About You, to get into this next conversation.
00:04In our studio right now, you know his voice for many years.
00:07He was on Power 106, although if you were listening to him, that means you probably weren't listening to us.
00:10That's okay.
00:10Because we were flipping back and forth during commercials.
00:12He was the creator, co-creator of Brown Bag Podcast, which then became the morning show on Power 106.
00:18Rose Kranzvik is with us right now because he's out of a job as of last week.
00:23And I always feel bad for people in radio because I think that even you said this when you put
00:27up your statement,
00:27but you were not surprised. It's like one of those things where it's not surprising, yet it's shocking all at
00:32the same time.
00:32Yeah.
00:33And you saw this coming, but you were the creator of the show.
00:37And now the show that I guess at one point had three people on it is down to one.
00:41Yes.
00:41And you didn't say this outright, but it feels like fingers are being pointed as to who's maybe pulling the
00:46strings.
00:47A lot of people are pointing fingers. I'm not going to do it myself.
00:49But, you know, the interesting thing is like when you kind of dumb things down and you explain it,
00:54I had to explain it to my son, right?
00:56So I called him and I'm just like, hey, son, like, you know, they took me off of brown bag,
01:00like,
01:01and, you know, I'm not going to be working there anymore.
01:04And he was like, oh, OK.
01:06So the show ended and I'm like, no, son, it's actually going on without me.
01:12And, you know, when you break it down and you think about it, you know, from the perspective of a
01:1612 year old,
01:16he doesn't understand because how does it really make sense?
01:19Right.
01:19You know, for the name to continue when, like you said, we started the podcast five years ago independently on
01:24our own inside of a tiny downtown LA studio.
01:28We built it.
01:29Power 106 called us and was like, hey, we love what you guys are doing.
01:31We're selling out venues.
01:32We're selling out the Novo, the Will Turn, the El Rey Theater.
01:36Which is a rare scenario, by the way.
01:37Yeah.
01:38For you to build up a podcast like that so much so that a radio station is calling you and
01:42say, hey, do this live.
01:43Yeah, absolutely.
01:44And so I was like, OK, cool.
01:45Like, you know, let's let's try it out.
01:47Right.
01:48And also what a lot of people don't know is that we actually as a podcast, we got offered like
01:53a half a million dollars from Spotify before we got.
01:56Should have taken that.
01:57I'm telling you.
01:58Should have taken that.
02:00We'd take that now, by the way.
02:01Oh, absolutely.
02:02I would take it.
02:05A lot of people, like I said, don't know that.
02:09And so we ended up declining, you know, and and, you know, then comes the Power 106 opportunity a month
02:15later.
02:16Right.
02:16So we're like, OK, maybe this could be the move.
02:19And so we went, three of us.
02:21Shout out my boy, Duno.
02:22I was just with him in New York and we go to the show.
02:25It's not really for him.
02:26He's a he's a stand up comedian.
02:28He's also just turned 26.
02:30Like, he's a young guy waking up early, doing having this regimen.
02:34Like, it wasn't for him.
02:36He realized he's like, you know what?
02:37It's not for me.
02:38You guys go ahead.
02:39Do your thing.
02:39And so I was like, I was like, all right, I'm cool.
02:41Like, I like this radio stuff.
02:42I love it.
02:43I love talking to listeners, being a part of morning routine, all this stuff.
02:46And so we go on and I'm on for three, three years and eight months.
02:51But the last eight months to a year, I start to feel like they're icing you out.
02:56You know what I'm saying?
02:57I'm not being a part of conversation.
02:58Tell me how they did that with you, because we're trying to do that with Allie.
03:01So explain this to you.
03:02Yeah, yeah.
03:02Tell me about the red flags I should look out for.
03:04I mean, if you have any Klein and Allie meetings.
03:08Yeah.
03:08And you're not invited.
03:09Yes.
03:10If Allie's not invited, then.
03:12Check.
03:12Right, right.
03:15So meetings are happening.
03:16Yeah.
03:16And you're like, how did I not know about this meeting?
03:19Yes.
03:19And then, are you asking about it?
03:21Wait, wait, hold on.
03:22What else?
03:23Shut up.
03:24Shut up, Allie.
03:25You don't have to know about this.
03:26Yeah.
03:26And then, you know, decisions being made, bald being taken out of my hand, you know, metaphorically.
03:31And so it's just like, okay, this feels weird.
03:34This doesn't feel like when we walked in, three of us, that they were kissing our butt and being like,
03:39come on, anything you guys want.
03:40And is this coming from management, where there's a micromanaging thing happening, or is this happening internally with the show?
03:47It didn't always feel that way, but you never know.
03:49Like, see, when you're on the outs, you really don't know what's going on without you, right?
03:53You just knew that you were being pushed out.
03:54And when I talk to management, that's not what's happening.
03:56And then it's like, okay, so where is this?
03:59Somebody's doing the pushing, but I don't know where it's coming from.
04:01I'm being shoved, though.
04:02Now, it felt like, at least looking at all of the stuff that's happened since, that you were the most
04:07beloved on the show.
04:08Now, I don't know if you feel that way or not, but it feels like everyone seems to think, and
04:12I don't know if you just spun the narrative this way, or if you did, good for you, that you
04:16were the one that was the one that people really liked.
04:19And so to get rid of the guy that was the most liked seems very short-sighted.
04:23Were you getting paid the most?
04:25Was this a budgetary thing?
04:26Were they like, this guy, we got to shave some salary?
04:28Because, as you know, radio, sadly, is a very cheap industry.
04:30They're always looking to save a couple of bucks.
04:32I never think management makes good decisions long-term.
04:35They're always going, let's make the spreadsheet look better this month, so let's cut a job.
04:39They don't think about how many people that affects down the line.
04:41Was it one of those situations?
04:43Was there internal squabbles?
04:44Like, on this show, for the most part, we all get along.
04:48We have it out a few times a year, I think.
04:50Everyone on the show has it out with each other.
04:52Well, I think that when you are in a situation where your coworkers are kind of like your family, that's
04:57going to happen, right?
04:58And I think it's actually healthy for that to happen.
05:00We probably should fight more, to be honest.
05:02I think we should.
05:02Well, you won't be at the next meeting.
05:03I won't be there.
05:04You guys can vent about me, I guess, in one of your sessions.
05:07Did that happen?
05:07Did you guys get along, or was there an inner office turmoil?
05:11We got along, for the most part.
05:13Like you said, it's family.
05:14So even when you don't get along, you're like, well, I'll see you tomorrow.
05:17Exactly.
05:17You know what I'm saying?
05:18So it didn't always feel like that.
05:20But it gets to a point where something that happened is we had a segment, and I led the segment.
05:28You guys know segments and who leads it is important because people watch out for that.
05:32So I went on vacation to Puerto Rico about a month ago, and I'm gone for about three days, three
05:38radio days.
05:39And I come back, and then they're like, you're not doing that anymore.
05:42Oh, damn.
05:43And so that's when I was like, okay, hold on.
05:47So they had this plan, and then it's like, oh, when Vic leaves, we're going to just switch that out
05:52and then break it to him when he gets back.
05:54I can't say it was a plan, but it feels like it's suspicious when all the chips fall, and then
06:02you start to look back at everything.
06:04And it's like, oh, wait, was this a thing?
06:07But I don't know.
06:08I can't say because, again, I'm on outs, right?
06:11So when I saw that happening, I was like, okay, this is like I need to start preparing for the
06:17worst at that point.
06:18And so what I did was I started developing my own show, which is the Rosecrans Vic show.
06:23You can watch it on YouTube.
06:24It's like late night kind of style.
06:26And I started to do that, and so I was like, well, if this goes, I need to be ready
06:31for what's next.
06:31Good for you.
06:32And luckily, you know, we had enough development time that as soon as I got, you know, let go or
06:39whatever the case is, I went ahead and launched it the next day.
06:42And what is the –
06:43Call Alley.
06:44I don't want to interrupt.
06:44It's important.
06:45213 says, this is Spotify.
06:46We'll give you $50 for our show.
06:48I'll take it.
06:48So that's a text we got from Spotify.
06:50I'll sign it.
06:51We'll take it.
06:52You'll regret it later.
06:54714 F that brown bag.
06:55They did Vic Dirty.
06:57Meanwhile, someone said, too bad that show's name is continuing.
06:59You could have called your show, the Klein Alley Show, Very White Bag with Alley.
07:02Oh, yeah.
07:03That's a good point as well.
07:04Thanks, though.
07:04So a lot of great suggestions on the text line.
07:06The day, though, that you walk in, are you told as soon as – because we've been fired a couple
07:11of times, and it's always a pretty –
07:12It's almost the anniversary of our first firing together, Christmas Eve.
07:15Yeah.
07:15It was – yeah.
07:16Congratulations.
07:16I think it was a couple days before Christmas, and it was at home, you know, phone call, and then
07:20we were not allowed back into the building even to get our stuff.
07:22Did you get in the building?
07:24Like, what was the actual firing?
07:25How did they break the news?
07:26What happened?
07:28The actual – it was – no, I went in normal day.
07:32It was as normal of a day as I could believe, right?
07:36Until maybe about 8 o'clock, I get a text from another co-worker on another show on Power, and
07:42he hit me up.
07:43We're close, like, away from the show, and so he hit me up like, hey, bro, like, you get that
07:47staff meeting email, mandatory?
07:49And I was like, nah, man.
07:51And over here, I'm worried for him.
07:53I'm like, man, like, maybe it's nothing, bro.
07:55Like, da-da-da.
07:56But then I start, like – I'm like, I didn't hear about a staff meeting.
08:00And I'm like, well, let me see if maybe I got it, too, bro.
08:03Don't worry.
08:03Like, don't panic.
08:04And then I'm like, oh, wait, I got it, too.
08:06Oh, no.
08:07It's always the worst when you're like, I guess I got spared this round.
08:10Last-minute meeting.
08:11Always be worried.
08:12The subject of the meeting is by Vic.
08:14You're like, wait a minute.
08:15This can't be good.
08:16Invite, decline, accept.
08:17Yeah, maybe.
08:19Well, look, as someone who's been on radio a bit, dude, this sucks, and I always feel like when we
08:23have the opportunity to give people a voice after they get kind of the mic stripped away from them, it's
08:27our duty to do that.
08:28We did that with all the guys that lost their job at KCAL, that radio station that went away.
08:32I think it's important because in radio, it is brutal, and you do feel silenced a lot of the time
08:37afterwards, and so I think it's important for us to kind of support each other and let people have some
08:41closure because there are obviously a lot of people who listen to you and feel like they were robbed and
08:46feel like they were blindsided.
08:48Yeah, and I'll cry to support.
08:50I appreciate every single body that's like dropped a comment, encouraging words.
08:55It's not something I necessarily expected.
08:57You know what I'm saying?
08:58People are saying it's too bad that Vic's cool or else we could replace him with Jake immediately and call
09:01him Vic the nerd.
09:02It's too bad.
09:03This is an interview.
09:04This is a job interview.
09:04Jake, we're doing a job interview right now.
09:07I don't know if you knew that, but everyone's jobs here on the line, all right?
09:10That's great because I've been studying rock the whole way over here.
09:13Foo Fighters.
09:14Yeah, that's right.
09:15Dominic Fike.
09:16That's a good one.
09:16You know it.
09:17This guy's ready to go.
09:18You hear that management?
09:19You know what I haven't heard in a while?
09:21Butthole surfers.
09:21There you go.
09:2290s and noon with Sluggo, you'll hear that.
09:24They got to come back.
09:25It's good knowledge.
09:27And Rosecrans Vic, we wish you the best, dude.
09:29Follow along with all things at Rosecrans Vic on the Instagram.
09:32He's got his support, if you can, on the YouTube show, which is available now.
09:36And just anyone you'd like to say F you to now that you have the public airwaves of Los Angeles?
09:42No, I'd just like to say I love you, Los Angeles.
09:44Thank you for tuning in.
09:45And tune in to the Client & Alley Show, man.
09:46This is a great show.
09:47I was going to sound way over here.
09:48I enjoyed it.
09:49Oh, look at that.
09:49Yeah, we can't really listen to the show.
09:50Now I'll give you the 50 bucks, I just promised you to say.
09:52We'll talk about that later at the meeting that Alley's not coming to.
09:55You know what I'm saying?
09:55Oh, okay.
09:56All right, quick break.
09:56We got more show next.
09:57We got more show next.