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TRADE DEADLINE 4PM TODAY! Will the Patriots make a 'BIG SPLASH'? Thoughts on Mike Vrabel's comment?
What do the Patriots need to address before Trade Deadline? Will they add to RB? Derrick Henry? Jonathan Taylor?
TRADE DEADLINE 4PM TODAY! Will the Patriots make a 'BIG SPLASH'? Thoughts on Mike Vrabel's comment?
What do the Patriots need to address before Trade Deadline? Will they add to RB? Derrick Henry? Jonathan Taylor?
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00:00Yesterday on this show, as often happens, Curtis,
00:06Mike Vrabel said a little bit of dialogue for the city
00:09when asked by me about the looming trade deadline.
00:13Here is the way that question and answer went.
00:16Trade deadline tomorrow, I know you're always saying
00:19you're looking to improve the team.
00:20Does the result yesterday affect how you go into that at all,
00:24change how you go into that at all?
00:26No.
00:27I mean, again, we want a bunch of guys
00:29that want to be here, that want to make it hard on each other
00:32in preparation, push each other, challenge each other,
00:37improve, take accountability.
00:39And if that's not them, then let us know by tomorrow.
00:45That's what we have to do.
00:46That's the mindset that we have to take.
00:49Okay.
00:49So I think if that comment stood alone by itself on an island,
00:55it would have been like, okay, that's what he wants.
00:57However, and we did this during the show yesterday,
01:02when you take into consideration what Matt Collins said about,
01:06uh, we're the team that's, uh, that the tape will show you.
01:10And if guys don't like that, then there's 31 other teams
01:14that they can go play for.
01:15When you take into consideration what Pop Douglas said,
01:19which we're going to hear during they said it in about 10 minutes,
01:22it seems to me that there may be a guy or some guys that are on this football team
01:30who aren't taking it as seriously as perhaps Mike Vrabel and others on the team would like.
01:37Like, where are you on it?
01:38This is funny to me because it, when you start to say this instantly,
01:43people, they're going to be like, all right, who are they talking about?
01:47And they're going to go and start looking at the team.
01:50They're going to go, oh, they must be talking about Barmore
01:52because of the whole Barmore situation thing.
01:54People have been speculating.
01:55It's Barmore people speculating.
01:57It's Christian Gonzalez.
01:58I, you know, I, I'm not speculating anymore about anything that goes on.
02:03I would say this.
02:04I learned my lesson.
02:05I would say this.
02:06What, and prior to this game and them getting absolutely clapped,
02:11what would make you think it's Gonzalez?
02:14He seems like a, a modeled citizen, goes out, does his job every week,
02:21doesn't complain about anything.
02:22Even tempered.
02:23Even tempered.
02:24Got his money.
02:25Doesn't look like a guy that'll give you any issues in the locker room.
02:28Well, you were talking about emotion yesterday with Drake May and whether
02:32or not you want to have a quarterback or in the case of Jason Tatum,
02:38you want to have a guy who appears to be pissed off when they lose.
02:42Did Christian Gonzalez post game seem like he was pissed off that they lost
02:47that game?
02:47He didn't to me.
02:49I hated it.
02:49But did Drake May seem like he was pissed off?
02:51Like that's the Christian Gonzalez's personality.
02:53He was like, you know what?
02:54I got to do better.
02:55They, they, they, he said, it's not the end of the world.
02:58I would not like to say that.
02:59Well, I get that point.
03:00I, I understand that, but from the world he's in, he's knowing like at DB,
03:06like, Hey, I gotta, I gotta, the DB is the position where you have to have the
03:10shortest memory possible.
03:11I got to move on to the next play.
03:13And I get it.
03:14Maybe you'd be a good defensive back.
03:15So I get it.
03:16That fans don't understand that.
03:18And fans don't get that.
03:20But like Christian Gonzalez has never given me any, like, I've never looked at him and
03:25go, Oh, I got a question whether or not.
03:27Okay.
03:27Well just back to the original.
03:28Cause I wasn't suggesting that we sit here and try to identify who it is.
03:32But when you say this, not you, I don't mean you, but when they say this, when Mike Rabel
03:36says it and, uh, Matt Collins, yes, you instantly put a giant spotlight on the one person's name
03:44who's been, but what's wrong with that?
03:46Like they're trying to call guys out and say that there are guys who are, are not into it
03:54the way we're into it.
03:55I mean, I, I don't like what's wrong with that.
03:58And I also think that if Rabel thought this was Gonzalez, he did call Gonzalez out after
04:02the game, not because he thought he didn't care, but he said his best players have to
04:05play better.
04:06He was directly answering a question from Dan Roach about Christian Gonzalez when he said
04:10that.
04:11Yeah.
04:11So I don't think it's Christian Gonzalez from Mike Rabel's perspective because he was willing
04:15to call him out.
04:15So I think it's more, we're going to get to audio later, I think, and they said it on
04:20this, which will have similar, you know, which can sort of further the conversation.
04:26But from my perspective, this is something Wiggy has alluded to for a long time where
04:31you're going to get in bad moments, offense, defense, sort of just issues or different
04:37position groupings that you might have a problem with that you're either throwing, you know,
04:41you begin the game, you have a great game plan, you get the ball to start it and
04:45before you're even seated from the flyby, Drake may has thrown it to the other team
04:50and that you're starting on defense at the five yard line and you're kind of like, what
04:55the hell?
04:55And I would say like, damn, Mac, you and Drake need to be on the same page because that
04:59led to the interception.
05:01I mean, I'm not saying, so I always look, when players say these type of things, you
05:06got to be very careful.
05:07You have to know that like, all right, who am I singling out or am I singling out a group?
05:13But am I also willing to take the criticism my way?
05:19Right.
05:19You know what I mean?
05:19So when Mike Vrabel said it, that's different.
05:24He's the head coach.
05:25Right.
05:25He's the head coach.
05:26Yes.
05:27Does it make you question whether the makeup currently of the football team is compromised
05:33with one or two guys?
05:35See, and this is where you and I differ.
05:37When I heard Vrabel say that, I took it as when you asked about the trade deadline, he
05:43was not talking about anybody specifically.
05:45He was just saying, we want guys that want to be here, and if you're one of those guys
05:50that don't want to be here, come to me, and we'll do our best to get you on it.
05:54But why even say that?
05:55If everybody on the football team-
05:56Because you just got your head clapped.
05:57Right.
05:58Right.
05:58Yeah.
05:58But if everybody on the football team wants to be here, why throw that in at the end?
06:03Because I would ask you this.
06:05If they beat Green Bay and you ask the same question, you think Vrabel's responding the
06:10same way?
06:10No.
06:11No.
06:11Right.
06:11So I think it's the emotion of the loss, and you're getting your head cracked, and guys,
06:15you know, getting their heads beat in, and the energy's not going to be the same on the
06:19sideline.
06:20Guys' body language is not going to be the same when you're getting absolutely your doors
06:24blown off.
06:24Guys are going to be complaining on the sideline when you're losing like that.
06:28Like, those are emotions that are going to happen when you're getting your head stomped
06:32in.
06:32Okay.
06:33This is Mel in the van.
06:36Hello, Mel.
06:38Hey, how's it going?
06:39What's up?
06:39First time, long time.
06:42I just wanted to piggyback on what Wiggy was saying.
06:45You know, if you've ever been a part of a sports team, you always have that moment
06:49when you've lost the game.
06:51You probably should have won, and the coach stormed in, and it's a gut check for the team.
06:55You know, seeing where everyone's mentality is, and the leaders are going to, in the locker
07:00room, are going to say that same message.
07:03Doubt is going to be a cancer.
07:05If anyone's not all in, they need to get their mind right and start believing in themselves
07:10and get each other's back on that sideline.
07:12So, to me, I don't think it's any issue with anyone, but it's more just a mentality check
07:19for everybody on the team.
07:20Yeah.
07:21I mean, it could be, thank you for the call, could be a hole to do about nothing, and
07:26it's just another way in which Matt Collins as a leader, Mike Vrabel as the head coach
07:31are trying to get guys fired up for this game Sunday against the Detroit Lions, which is
07:37a very important one.
07:39Yeah, if they lose this game, man, it's just going to hit the fan.
07:42Well, if they lose on Sunday, Curtis, is it foundationally shaking?
07:46Shaking foundations, I think.
07:47It really is.
07:48It's sort of like that ramp in Newport.
07:51But I would say also, if Greg had asked Vrabel about the buy-in, the answer makes sense.
08:00You weren't asking about that.
08:02But a guy who was smarter than all of us said to us that there is an issue on the
08:10team with
08:10people who want to be here or not, and that those that are in that room need to either
08:14show they want to be here, or they should tell him, and they can be gone.
08:17That is a huge statement from the guy that is in charge of the football team.
08:21And I also think that sometimes when you're sitting there in the room, Wiggy, you're thinking
08:26about things he said to you, what you're going to ask him next.
08:29It's a different experience than just listening to it on the radio.
08:31Me listening to it yesterday, as soon as he made that switch, I immediately, it was
08:37a red flag for me.
08:38Like, I do not think that he makes that switch.
08:40If anything, he keeps something like that close to the vest unless he wants it out there.
08:43I think it's just, like, different on how we hear things.
08:45Like, you brought up the Pop Douglas thing, right?
08:48The way I heard Pop Douglas was just like, we need more energy on the sideline, not specifically
08:53calling out players.
08:54And if it is Barmore, and maybe, I don't know, I don't know Barmore, maybe Barmore has a
08:59lot of weight in that locker room and Vrabel's saying, all right.
09:01If this guy might be able to latch on to other players, then he'll trade Barmore by today,
09:08right?
09:08Okay.
09:09Oh, hold on.
09:12No.
09:13Okay.
09:13Not now.
09:16Courtney.
09:17I'm just doing it.
09:19Oh, gosh.
09:20False alarm.
09:21I'm just doing it.
09:22If you see me run out to throw up, you'll know exactly why.
09:26I'm just trying to freak out.
09:27We need to get Courtney's face as soon as possible.
09:32All right.
09:33Hang on.
09:34Yeah.
09:34No, it's not coming.
09:35All right.
09:36Does pineapple help?
09:38Yeah.
09:38Pineapple is, that's Dr.
09:40Diana's recommendation.
09:42If that doesn't work.
09:43Yeah.
09:44If that doesn't work, I'm going to go to also warm water with some cider vinegar in
09:51it to get everything.
09:53The whole thing is, the whole process is not moving.
09:56Wiggy, if you recall.
09:57Again, I don't want to be too specific about it.
09:59Oh, please.
10:00Give us total detail.
10:03Wiggy, if you recall, the upside down pineapple meant something different in the Cox household.
10:07Not my household.
10:08Now, is it of interest to you that it is two guys who play on the offensive side of the
10:17football who are saying it?
10:19Yes.
10:20Because it is to me.
10:22Oh, is it?
10:23Okay.
10:23Well, if you're on the offensive side of the football, you should not be talking.
10:27Okay.
10:28Well.
10:29That's the way.
10:29If I was a defensive player, that's what I would say.
10:32Yeah.
10:32Well.
10:32After the defense gave up 45 points.
10:34The defense gave up 45 points.
10:36The defense prides themselves on being the best in the league.
10:41So.
10:41How many interceptions you throw over there on the offense side?
10:44Yeah.
10:44I mean, we can do it as we go to the interceptions.
10:48The offense has over and over again this season started in not a great manner and found ways
10:58to end up winning football games.
11:00So I think there may be some of that lingering feeling there on that side.
11:03Like, hey, defense, where are you?
11:05Uh, your defense has statistically been better for you all season long.
11:10Not Sunday.
11:11Not Sunday.
11:11I agree with you.
11:12But, see, that's the problem.
11:14If you're, that's why I said, if you believe this to be true where he's calling out players,
11:19it's a bad thing because what you're doing is if you are creating an issue for the defense,
11:25the defense has been relatively good all year long.
11:28Now, all of a sudden, you're taking shots at us.
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