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00:00It was like watching Gerard Mayo on the sideline again.
00:03The biggest insult you can give to an NFL head coach.
00:06Ouch.
00:07Look at that, Gerard Mayo over there?
00:09I was like, no!
00:10Has he gone too far?
00:12You can't say that.
00:13I mean, that is some very pointed criticism.
00:16I feel like that is the lowest of the lowest.
00:17Like, Rich Cotite.
00:18Look at that, Rich Cotite?
00:21Like, no, that was Gerard Mayo.
00:23What's the quarterback equivalent?
00:24I would probably go to Nathan Peterman,
00:27because he had a, like, six-pick game or whatever.
00:28Maybe after the last night, you got to go to Wentz.
00:30Yeah, maybe.
00:31Like, Monday Night Football Wentz with the Vikings.
00:33That was really bad.
00:35But, no, I mean, you made a lot of those same points yesterday, Keith.
00:39I agree with that completely.
00:39It's like, Vrabel, sorry, Belichick would make you play left-handed.
00:43You brought up the Texans.
00:44You brought up all these examples yesterday.
00:46Simmons echoed a lot of that there.
00:47I think it's a fair criticism of the game plan or lack thereof going into Green Bay.
00:52Like, what on earth was the game plan against the Packers?
00:54No, and this was one where it wasn't even a debate, right?
00:57Like, sometimes you're like, well, they're, like, 10th in running,
01:00and they're, like, 20th in passing, and, like, you're trying to weigh the odds.
01:03No, no, no.
01:04Jordan Love led the league and still leads the league in passing yards.
01:07They were dead last in rushing yards as a team.
01:11And then Jacobs got hurt in the first quarter,
01:12and they're still just chucking a deep left and right to Watson and Golden.
01:17Like, that was wild to watch.
01:19And I guess you could make the argument, well, they had two receivers.
01:22It's like, okay, but he didn't take either one out.
01:24Well, and this is where I think Vrabel skates.
01:27If Vrabel had a game plan that we disagree with, and he's like, well, we think we can make this
01:33work,
01:33and it was wrong, fine.
01:34That's one thing that, you know, your coaches were wrong all week,
01:38and you implemented it incorrectly all week.
01:40To never adjust is crazy.
01:42Yeah, they did whatever they wanted.
01:44Like, they finally, like, called the dogs off at the end.
01:47And otherwise, they could have scored, like, 63 points if they wanted to.
01:50You didn't take a single thing away from those receivers.
01:54And Jordan Love, we joked about this yesterday, but he was asking,
01:58is this the best you've ever played?
02:00He's like, yeah, probably.
02:01I think so.
02:02Like, every time he just dropped back, he was, like, slinging completion.
02:04He even ran in a touchdown, which he never does.
02:06So they are so woefully prepared, it feels like, for all these games.
02:11They fell behind against the Bears.
02:12It cost them.
02:13They fell behind against the Dolphins.
02:14Fortunately, because the Dolphins are so awful, they came back in that game.
02:18Oh, they were about for a half against the Dolphins.
02:19Yeah, a whole half.
02:20We talked about this last week.
02:21People wanted to say that's a good win and going down to Miami
02:24and beating a bad team.
02:25It's still a good win.
02:26Brady never won there.
02:27Brady had a hard time down there.
02:28I shouldn't say never won there.
02:29Brady had a hard time down there.
02:31They're all banged up.
02:32Well, no, it turns out, and we tried to tell you this,
02:35it turns out you could see some of this coming.
02:37They weren't ready to go against Miami.
02:38They weren't ready to go against Chicago.
02:40They weren't ready to go and never figured it out against Green Bay.
02:44That's on Vrabel.
02:45All these pre-snap penalties, that's on Vrabel.
02:49The horrible game plan against Green Bay, Vrabel.
02:51No adjustments, Vrabel.
02:53And maybe here's the most damning one, Keith.
02:55They have apparently a locker room that's turning on each other.
03:00It sounds like offensive players calling out defensive players.
03:03It sounds like there are bad attitudes and a lack of buy-in on the team,
03:06which even Vrabel is acknowledging on this radio station as part of Patriots Monday.
03:10He tried to distance himself from it yesterday.
03:12He did a poor job.
03:13No, no, no.
03:14I'm just giving guys reminders.
03:16Strange.
03:16You're the one who brought it up.
03:17Yeah, strange.
03:18So most damning of all is that his own locker room feels like it's divided and or turning on him.
03:23Yeah, it seems like the 2009 Patriots all over again,
03:27which was obviously talented enough to make the playoffs,
03:31but then just got their doors blown off.
03:33And that's the famous NFL Films one with Belichick talking to Brady.
03:36He's like, I can't get through to these guys.
03:37I just can't get through to this team.
03:38Or get him to play the way I want or whatever he said.
03:40And it was just like different factions it felt like on the team.
03:43And it was a bad division.
03:45I think they went 10 and six, made the playoffs.
03:48And then Ray Rice just like ran all over them and they got blown out in the wild card round.
03:53And it was a very forgettable season.
03:55But even in the middle of it, you're like, there's something off.
03:59And it was weird because they went from the unbelievable 07 team to like the Matt Castle team.
04:04And then you're like, hey, Brady's back.
04:06Like you got Brady back in 09.
04:07And it just wasn't right.
04:10And this has similar vibes to it.
04:12Whereas like, oh, you're coming off the Super Bowl.
04:14You made what I thought was improvements to the roster.
04:16I thought they did.
04:17Me too.
04:19And, you know, some of it's injury.
04:20Some of it's poor play.
04:21Some of it's, I guess, both in the case of like, you know, A.J. Brown.
04:25But they just haven't met well with it.
04:28I don't know if it's, is it just because they're playing tougher teams?
04:31I don't think so.
04:31I feel like it's going to be more than just that.
04:33Well, and I forget who called in earlier.
04:35Was it Barry into Bedford?
04:36Somebody called in with a good point earlier.
04:37I think it was Barry.
04:38And he's like, look at all the other second year coaches and how they're doing.
04:41Yeah.
04:42And Paul and Johnson.
04:43Meaning in the second year with their team, right?
04:44I mean, Vrabel's not a second year coach.
04:46But second year with New England, Ben Johnson's in his second year in Chicago.
04:49Liam Cohen's in his second year with Jacksonville.
04:51Aaron Glenn's killing it.
04:52Or not him.
04:53Not him.
04:53All those teams, though.
04:55Like, the teams that were in the playoffs, I thought they were all due for some regression.
04:58And we talked about the Patriots' schedule.
05:00I'm like, and I forget who had the list.
05:01Maybe Barnwell had the list of teams that would regress.
05:04And the Patriots were on it.
05:05And I'm like, well, I guess that's bad news.
05:07But the good news is two other teams that they're playing this year are on it.
05:10The Bears and the Jags.
05:11There's been no regression with those teams.
05:13They've gotten better.
05:15And you look the way you look right now.
05:17So, yeah, you stepped up in class.
05:19Yeah, it's a harder schedule.
05:21But it doesn't just feel like you've lost a couple of bang-bang games.
05:24You've been embarrassed in a couple of games this year.
05:26Jacksonville and Green Bay leading the way.
05:29Are you still confident they can get to 10 wins?
05:32It's hard to be confident.
05:34I think they can get to five more wins.
05:37They're five and four right now.
05:39Lions this week.
05:40Okay, so here's how I, again, using the power rankings.
05:44I know Nick doesn't like that.
05:44They have a game left against the number one team in the ESPN power rankings, the Bills.
05:48That's a good team.
05:49They have a game against the number five team, Denver, at home.
05:52They have a game against five.
05:53They have a game against the number six team, Kansas City, at KC.
05:57They're not winning that game.
05:58They have a game at home on a short week against the number eight team, Minnesota.
06:01I don't know how I feel about Minnesota.
06:03Yeah, me either.
06:03They got the game this weekend against Detroit in Munich.
06:06They got the Jets.
06:07They got the Dolphins.
06:08They got the Chargers.
06:09I'd say that's six more winnable games.
06:11Winnable?
06:12They have three what should be layups.
06:14It's football, so blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
06:16They could lose any Sunday.
06:17But Chargers, Jets, Dolphins.
06:20That gets you to eight wins.
06:21I think nine gets you in the playoffs, honestly, but 10 really firmly gets you into the playoffs.
06:27So then Detroit and Minnesota, you've got to at least split Detroit, Minnesota.
06:31Don't you think?
06:32Detroit, Minnesota, Denver.
06:33Detroit's a neutral game.
06:34Minnesota's on a short week here, and then Denver's a home game.
06:38That's probably your best avenue.
06:40You're going to beat the Bills here?
06:41Nine's probably the safer bet, but I do think they can get to 10.
06:44Okay.
06:44But, like, Drake may I can't have any more three-pick halves.
06:49That's not going to cut it.
06:50And, like, I don't know, not for nothing, I liked Green Bay's defense coming into the game.
06:55Minnesota and Denver and teams like that have better defenses than that.
06:57Detroit is such a massive swing game because you lose in your 500, and I think people are going to
07:03be freaking out.
07:04Trade deadline's going to be over, so, like, your team is what your team is.
07:06I think people are going to panic in the streets if they're 5-5.
07:09If they win going into the bye week at 6-4, I think there's, like, a huge exhale.
07:15And you're like, all right.
07:17Like, playoffs are in sight.
07:18Division's probably not, but, like, the wild card spot is in sight.
07:22But, like, 6-4 and 5-5, even though it's only one game, feels so different to me.
07:27By the way, we do have an update on the NFL trade deadline.
07:31People are asking, can we undo the trade desk sounder?
07:34Why?
07:35The Bengals are expected to back out of their trade for Arnold Abikite.
07:38Play it in reverse.
07:39The Bengals would have lost the third-round compensatory pick they were receiving in the Trey Hendrickson trade with Baltimore.
07:44Now the trade is expected to fall through.
07:46So, what, the Bengals forgot to look up the compensatory formula?
07:48Most likely.
07:49I blame the Bengals for this.
07:50I think any time something goes wrong and the Bengals are involved.
07:53The Bengals are like, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
07:55Oh, we don't even have that pick.
07:56We're trading a sixth-rounder, and now the way the compensatory formula works, we're not going to get the third
08:01-rounder we were supposed to get?
08:02Hang on.
08:02We don't want to do it anymore?
08:04We don't want to keep that.
08:04Sorry about that, guys.
08:06Now, this poor guy's like, wait, you just traded me, right?
08:08They're like, no.
08:09That honestly shouldn't be allowed.
08:10You shouldn't be like, we forgot to look at the compensatory formula.
08:13We don't want to do it anymore.
08:14Dude, what was the trade?
08:14If you failed a physical or something, that's allowed this?
08:16That shouldn't be allowed.
08:17You guys want to talk about the Browns forgetting to file paperwork at the deadline a couple years ago?
08:20Yeah, the Browns are Broncos.
08:21It was for a quarterback?
08:22Broncos had a trade, too, where they didn't fax it in time.
08:25It was one of their pass rushers.
08:26It was the Elvis.
08:27It was celebrating in the war room.
08:28You're right.
08:29It was Doomerville.
08:29You're right.
08:30It was Doomerville, 100%.
08:31Oh, yeah.
08:32We forgot to fax it.
08:34Right.
08:34What is that?
08:35Isn't somebody in charge of that?
08:36What the Red Sox forgot to do with Fisk?
08:37They forgot to send him his paperwork, postmarked on the proper date.
08:40That's a famous one.
08:41Barry Sanders, there's a weird story with him.
08:43You should not be allowed to back out of this.
08:45If he fails a physical, you go, wow, geez, we didn't know the medicals fell apart.
08:49You can't be like, we forgot to look at the compensatory trade formula.
08:53We don't want to do that.
08:54That shouldn't be allowed.
08:55Cancel a trade?
08:57Oh, boy.
08:58Okay.
08:58Are we going to get some more trades?
08:59I don't know.
09:00We don't even officially have one.
09:01We actually have less than we thought.
09:02We do.