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Jeremy White and Joe DiBiase kick are joined by Joe Marino, host of the Locked on Bills and Bills Squad shows for his weekly appearance with the guys! They start on the big news in the Bills organization, the trade that brings in Safety Amani Hooker. Marino explains why he loves the move, citing the fit with Cole Bishop, and the fact that he’s a long-term answer at the safety position. Then they discuss the Bills most recent win over the Vikings on Monday night and what we learned coming out of it.
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00:00The great thing about Cole is he has a lot of versatility in his skill set
00:04and that he can, you know, Jim's been using him up closer to the box.
00:09From that standpoint, this is a great marriage.
00:12Imani can play the deep post, track that ball, instincts, ball skills,
00:16intelligence, all those things.
00:17So I think it's a very good pairing.
00:19We did talk about it.
00:20There were, you know, at least a player or two that Cole probably would have
00:24spent more time on the back end had one of those worked out.
00:27So it all matters.
00:29That is the value of a Cole Bishop, though,
00:31that does have the versatility to kind of do both in Jim's defense.
00:35Bill's GM, Brandon Bean, after the trade,
00:38they send a second to Tennessee for Imani Hooker and a fifth.
00:43So it's a pick slide.
00:44Did some of the draft value chart on that.
00:46The Bills will, of course, have a late second.
00:49The Titans will have an early fifth.
00:51And the value, if you do it on the draft value chart,
00:54which is, of course, you know, gospel.
00:57It's about a mid-third.
00:59So kind of like when they traded for Rasul Douglas,
01:01they slid from the third to the fifth.
01:03This time it's from the second to the fifth.
01:05And it's about a mid-third round pick value in terms of what they lose
01:08on the draft value chart to get Imani Hooker.
01:11We're going to talk about the addition with Joe Marino of the Locked on Bills podcast.
01:15You can find everything he does where you find your podcasts for the Locked on Bills podcast
01:19on YouTube at thejoemarino.com.
01:22All 22, all that stuff.
01:24And a good person to talk to about the fit and what it'll do for the Buffalo Bills.
01:28Joe, good morning.
01:29How happy were you when you saw this deal finally done?
01:34Yeah, I was happy and relieved.
01:37I certainly was hopeful that a deal could get done for safety.
01:42And Imani Hooker was high on my list of players that they could get a deal done with.
01:47And I think he comes in and certainly elevates the position.
01:51And looking at the overall roster, I thought safety was the most upgradable spot on the football team.
01:57And I think he compliments Cole Bishop very well.
02:00You can play Cole Bishop in some lower alignments where he's best.
02:03Get him involved in the run fits.
02:05Get him involved in some man-to-man coverage in the slot.
02:07And now you've got a deep post player in Imani Hooker that is very instinctive in coverage.
02:12Has seen a lot of football.
02:13Has made a lot of plays on the ball.
02:15And I feel like the Bills did well for themselves on a deadline where I know a lot of people
02:20were nervous
02:20whether or not Brandon Bean would get something done.
02:22My favorite thing about it, Joe, might just be that I feel like this position has been a little bit
02:27of a band-aid position.
02:29There have been a lot of stopgaps, a lot of one-year ideas, flyers.
02:34And now it's locked up for a couple of years with Bishop there.
02:38And I'd imagine he'll get a new contract when the time comes.
02:42And Hooker has term on the deal, which means these two will get a lot of time on task together
02:48to kind of grow as a tandem.
02:50Yeah, no question.
02:51I think that's a really good call out.
02:53Jordan Poirier and Micah Hyde obviously were a legendary pair at safety for Buffalo.
02:58And as they transitioned out and had some decline in age on them, it's been a bit of a challenge
03:05to get the right mix.
03:07And Cole Bishop has certainly looked like a guy that can fit one of those spots.
03:11But we've also seen what it looks like when they don't have the right guy next to him, whether that's
03:16been C.J. Garner-Johnson or Taylor Rapp last season.
03:20And so hopefully this is the guy that gives the Bills a pair of safeties that can be the key
03:27communicators and leaders of this defense.
03:29And so, yes, that's a good call out.
03:31Cole Bishop is extension eligible after this season.
03:34It will be interesting to see if they do that early.
03:37I know Bean typically likes to do the deals early, but if they want to buy some more time and
03:41really see the two together, that's another benefit of Amani Hooker as he signed through 20-28.
03:46And so you can, I guess, maybe check this one off the box of things that the Bills have to
03:51be concerned about addressing on this roster long-term.
03:54Joe, yesterday there were also reports the Bills had pushed for Buda Baker.
03:57Do you like that it ended up being Hooker?
04:00I mean, there's the age, there's the contract, and I feel like maybe the biggest point here is the fit
04:04with Bishop.
04:06Yeah, I think age, contract, and fit with Bishop all tilt towards Amani Hooker, but it's also Buda Baker.
04:12You know, like Buda Baker's been one of my most favorite players in the league, and watching him at Washington,
04:19I mean, the guy was awesome.
04:21And so it has always been a favorite of mine.
04:23But, yeah, I think if you just strip it down to age, contract, and fit, which should matter a ton
04:28in a deal,
04:29I think the Bills make out with the right answer to go with Cole.
04:33Joe Marino of the Locked On Bills podcast.
04:36So, Joe, let's talk about it in connection with the rest of the defense.
04:40We've seen back-to-back games where the Bills' defense really dominates.
04:44The Minnesota game, right?
04:46It's Carson Wentz.
04:47It's so bad the Vikings trade to get an answer at quarterback because Wentz was so bad.
04:53But, again, it's a guy that's played 100 games in the league.
04:56We're doing the thing we did last week with Joe Fagnano, but I want to ask you about the Bills'
05:00defense and what we are seeing.
05:01Are you seeing that communication component get better?
05:05Are you seeing more confident play out of the linebackers?
05:09You know, like post-bye, has Jim Leonard looked different to you in the way that he's calling the defense,
05:15now that he's moved upstairs, right?
05:16We're trying to pick out the good things while understanding that maybe the caliber of the test was not exactly
05:22the highest level.
05:23Yeah, I think that the unit has kind of calmed down in a lot of ways,
05:27and there's certainly a mindfulness that we should have towards the situation that they, you know,
05:33face a third-string quarterback and Carson Wentz and whatever you want to call him,
05:37what that performance was from him on Monday night.
05:39But I think they are playing a lot better together.
05:44And I will say, I think Carson Wentz was bad more than the Bills' defense was elite on Monday night,
05:50but I still think there's a lot to be happy with and to build upon.
05:54And another strong performance that I think helps with the buy-in and guys playing confident.
05:59And, you know, they've got this situation now where it's Jets-Dolphins, these next two,
06:03and then it's that gauntlet of five in a row.
06:05And I'm probably not going to get the games in order, but it's Chiefs, Patriots, Packers, Bears, Broncos.
06:12And you've got two games to, all right, this is who we're going to be, and then that's that gauntlet.
06:17And that gauntlet's going to decide if the Bills are the one seed, if Josh Allen's going to be the
06:21NFL MVP.
06:21And so I like the direction of where they're going.
06:24I think it was very interesting to see how different the structure of the defense was against Minnesota compared to
06:31Baltimore.
06:32Coming out of that buy, we talked about a major uptick in man coverage, a major uptick in blitzing.
06:37Well, that didn't happen against Minnesota.
06:40It was actually one of the lowest rates of man coverage that they run, one of the lowest blitz rate,
06:46but one of the highest cover two rates.
06:48So they became this cover two defense on almost 40% of the snaps.
06:51So interesting to see another positive result, but the method by which they got there was a lot different.
06:58And so I don't know what the identity of this defense is.
07:01I guess I can like that they had two really different structures that worked.
07:07And I guess we'll see what happens these next two weeks.
07:09And ultimately, it's that five-game gauntlet that I think is going to decide this season.
07:13Right, because next week it's Geno Smith, and then it's Kyle McCord probably after that.
07:17But then it's the five-game run.
07:19How much, Joe, the secondary, they address it with Hooker,
07:23and I feel like people are feeling better about what they are, especially Boundary Corner, Benford, and IGB at this
07:28point.
07:29They're getting big contributions from guys on the line.
07:31And how much can you pull from these last couple games about what the future will look like at linebacker
07:37for the rest of the season?
07:38They've got two picks on Monday night from Bernard and Williams.
07:42Williams has two in his last three games.
07:43But how much can we tell whether that's going to keep working from these two games?
07:51Well, I think they're playing a lot more confident, and they're playing a lot more together.
07:55And I think you can see them playing faster and more instinctive.
08:00And I think it's going to be Terrell Bernard and Dorian Williams,
08:03and they'll continue to sprinkle in a little bit of Caleb El-Armzor,
08:06who had a really good rush rep and kind of ran right over Aaron Jones and had some good pressure
08:10at times.
08:11And I think they want to make sure that he gets some reps.
08:14But I think it's going to be the Bernard and Williams show and sprinkle in Caleb El-Armzor.
08:19And if you need Shaq Thompson, he's on your practice squad if necessary.
08:24And obviously, you know, those guys have had some durability issues,
08:27and so staying healthy matters.
08:29But I think there's been a good little sustained chunk of play here from both of those guys,
08:35Williams and Bernard, that kind of solidifies them.
08:38Joe Brady's affirmed them quite a bit, even through some outside criticism.
08:43And so I think that's going to be the pair.
08:45And, you know, I think with Imani Hooker now in the mix,
08:47there's a coming together of this defense on the back end that has started.
08:52It should continue.
08:53And now we'll see if the Bills can get the pass rush that they need where, you know,
08:58it's been Greg Rousseau.
09:00It's Oliver's been terrific in his return.
09:02Deion Walker's played well.
09:03But I think they need one of those outside backers between Brad Chubb and TJ Parker
09:07and Michael Hoyt to really elevate, to round out this pass rush.
09:12So I think it all works together in that the back end gelling will help with that pass rush.
09:17But I find myself most interested now in, all right, how does this pass rush really find itself down the
09:23stretch?
09:24I'm glad you brought up Chubb because it was maybe last week I was watching him a little bit from
09:28the stadium
09:28and thinking about it's a three-year deal for him.
09:31And whatever, there's value in terms of leadership and the kind of pro that he is.
09:35But what about him right now are you not seeing?
09:39And what kind of – do you have cause for concern?
09:41Do you think it's just going to come eventually?
09:43The back end shoring up, could that be really the secret here?
09:47What's your early review eight games in of Bradley Chubb?
09:51Yeah, certainly hoping for more impact.
09:53Not that I expected him to come in and be like a world-class edge rusher that dominates football games,
09:59but could he be a serviceable starter as part of this overall operation?
10:04And I think he's been okay.
10:06I mean, he's just not a guy that's going to threaten these offensive tackles with a ton of bursts or
10:13flexibility.
10:14And so he's got to be a technician that plays with power.
10:18And, you know, that just doesn't lead to a lot of quick wins.
10:21And he's kind of a slow burn pass rusher.
10:24And I think he's got to be part of the overall movement-based front
10:29and be a beneficiary of a lot of that twists and stunts and games that they want to run up
10:34front
10:35because I don't think he's a quick one-on-one winner.
10:37And so obviously not getting younger.
10:41So I think what you're hoping for is that he stabilizes within the system.
10:45But I'm concerned that there's not going to be enough impact out of that investment.
10:51And the Bills didn't have a ton to work with.
10:53And for them to fit in that deal, they need that to work out.
10:57It's not the one-year mercenary deal, right?
11:00This is a multi-year commitment, probably at least two years.
11:03I know it's a three-year deal, but at least two years.
11:05And like you mentioned, I appreciate the intangibles and the leadership.
11:10I think all of that matters.
11:11But at some point, the impact has to start coming.
11:14And, you know, he doesn't look like an overly dynamic player to this point.
11:19And so hopefully he can fit into this scheme and find some more impact
11:22because I think the Bills are missing out on that right now.
11:25Joe Marino joining us.
11:26Joe, we also, throughout the morning, yesterday I should say,
11:28throughout yesterday, learned that the Bills had moved money around on Deion Dawkins,
11:32which he was kind of like a secondary conversation about this deadline,
11:36that the Bills had not pulled the lever to move money,
11:39which would make them basically commit to him next year.
11:43And there's some that, in my mind, have been a little too eager to move on from Dawkins.
11:48I don't really get that.
11:49Sure, the Bills probably want to make a plan for the next stage.
11:53It also comes while we saw Tylon Grable play his spot because he missed a game.
11:58So, like, looking at the long term and what this money did for Dawkins,
12:02do you find the eagerness with which people want to move on from him to be a little misplaced?
12:09I do.
12:10And I think coming out of last year, I would understand that this year would be a defining year
12:15in whether or not you'd want to stay with Dawkins.
12:19But I think we've learned that he can still play at a reasonably high level.
12:24Maybe he's not a top 10 tackle, but I think he's probably in that 10 to 20 range
12:28and gives the Bills a really solid answer that can play well but also really fits, right?
12:34Of course, the locker room and the leadership and everything that he's meant to this team
12:39since he's been drafted.
12:40And so I think the Bills are in kind of an interesting spot with their offensive line
12:45beyond this year where Alec Anderson's an expiring contract.
12:49And, you know, I don't know what the retainability of that's going to be.
12:52The Bills are going to be pretty tight on cap.
12:54And so do you want to be in a position where you're having to find a new starting left guard
12:59and a new starting left tackle?
13:01And so one thing that we need to learn about with this Dawkins restructure
13:05is just how much of a conversion they did, right?
13:08Because they don't have to do the full restructure.
13:10They could have gotten the cap space they need but also maintained some leverage
13:14to get out of the deal in the offseason.
13:16I don't think we've seen any reporting yet on exactly how much was converted.
13:20So that will matter a lot.
13:22But I find myself completely satisfied knowing that Dawkins would be the left tackle next year
13:28and that's not something that Brandon Bean has to try to figure out
13:32with limited resources next offseason.
13:34Joe Marino with us on the Western Hotline.
13:36Also, Joe, yesterday and I guess over the last two days,
13:40what do you make of what the other AFC contenders did?
13:44Kansas City getting downs.
13:46The Broncos get a linebacker from the Chargers.
13:49The Jaguars are obviously the big story here because of all that they did.
13:53But how much better do you feel like the other teams around the Bills got?
13:56It's kind of quiet, right?
13:58I was a little surprised that there was so much inactivity.
14:01I mean, like you mentioned, Josh Down goes to Kansas City.
14:04I think everybody saw that coming.
14:05I don't think it changes anything for their offense.
14:07It's another redundant skill set that's going to help them with their yards after catch.
14:11Patrick Mahomes is on a historic pace for the highest percentage of yards
14:16that come after the catch in a season.
14:18And I think Seattle and Denver put it on tape.
14:21Like if you can defend the run and force them to throw the ball down the field,
14:25they don't have that.
14:26I don't think Josh Downs really changes anything.
14:29He gives them another explosive player for their style.
14:32But I don't know that it adds any new layers to who they are.
14:35And they've had some real struggles with evaluating receiver talent through the years.
14:38And then, like you said, the big story is Jacksonville.
14:42And, you know, I think Jeremy made a good point on Bill's squad earlier when we talked about this,
14:48where these are, look, they're good players, but they're replacements.
14:52They lost their starting nose tackle.
14:54They lost their starting free safety.
14:55And so it's not like they added new dimensions to their operation with all that they've invested.
15:00They're replacing players that they needed to replace.
15:04Now, they're good upgrades.
15:05Like, don't get me wrong, Jesse Bates, Jordan Davis, those are good upgrades to Devon Hamilton and Eric Murray.
15:10But I think it is something to be mindful of.
15:12I do respect the Jags as the biggest threat to the Bills in the one seed.
15:16Part of that is their schedule.
15:18But also, they're a pretty complete operation.
15:20And so I do have an eye towards Jacksonville.
15:22But this is also, like, there's been so many disingenuous comments about what they have going on there.
15:29Oh, they have less cap space than the Bills.
15:31Well, not really.
15:32They had way more levers to pull.
15:34They hadn't done anything.
15:35They didn't do anything in free agency.
15:37They let Travis H.
15:38And Devin Lloyd walk.
15:40They didn't even have a first-round pick.
15:41Like, very underwhelming draft class.
15:43They waited until now to do anything to improve their football team.
15:47And so give them credit.
15:48Like, they went out and got some nice pieces.
15:51But I think the overall context of that situation needs to be mindful when we discuss this Jacksonville team.
15:56Joe Marino.
15:57Yeah, the Jags are bucking trends, I guess I would say.
16:01Like, their GM is young and aggressive.
16:03And whether it's the tight end they took in the first, sorry, the second round.
16:07They led to the whole conversation about consensus draft boards.
16:11And then this move for Jordan Davis.
16:13I see a lot of people talking about how, like you said, that trade value is probably not it.
16:20He's not the superstar-level trade value.
16:22But I think, Joe, like, zooming out on what the Jags did, what the Bills did, what the Chiefs did,
16:27I continue to think that contenders should continue to go down this road.
16:33You're trying to win the Super Bowl.
16:34You have one of the seven teams that could do it.
16:38You should be trading your second-round pick.
16:39Maybe not every year.
16:41But leave yourself space, right?
16:43One of the things we thought about this year for the Bills coming into this deadline was that they did
16:48have a little more flexibility than the last couple years.
16:51And that's something I'm going to want them to have next year and the year after that, too.
16:54Because you might get to November 1st and really feel like you need to make some sort of addition.
17:00And this is, it's a time of year.
17:02We've got the draft, free agency, and then the deadline, right?
17:05Like, it's act three of being a GM.
17:09Yeah, no question.
17:10And I do think you're exactly right.
17:12Teams that can do it, they should go for it.
17:14And, you know, when the Bills are, we're supposed to be on the clock in the second round of this
17:192027 draft, you can only hope they can find the starting safety that would be ready to step in and
17:24contribute.
17:24Like, I totally, I totally get that.
17:26I think they're acting the right way.
17:29And I think on the other side of that is I look at teams like Pittsburgh.
17:32Like, what are you doing?
17:33You're 6-2 in first place in the division.
17:35You got a 100-year-old roster.
17:37You didn't do anything to help your operation.
17:39And then the other side, the Colts, like, why didn't you trade Grover Stewart?
17:42The Cardinals, why didn't you trade Buda Baker?
17:44It's, you know, for as obvious as this stuff seems, the Chargers, you're 0-8.
17:49What is Khalil Mack doing on your football team as an expiring contract at 35 years old?
17:54So sometimes it's crazy to me that things appear so obvious in terms of buyers and sellers, yet you look
18:01across the landscape of the league and you find so many teams sitting, whether that's a team that should be
18:05selling or buying.
18:07Joe Marino with us.
18:09Joe, we did not get into the offensive game against Minnesota with you much in this conversation yet, but how
18:16impressive was the patience that both Joe Brady, Josh Allen had?
18:21I mean, it did not look good early, but it feels like they wore them down as that game went
18:26on.
18:26Yeah, really, really good job.
18:28Really impressed with Joe Brady and how he was able to get the team out of a rut in the
18:33game.
18:34They came out with wanting to max protect, right, with six and seven man blocking surfaces, get into their play
18:40action stuff and really kind of challenge Minnesota down the field.
18:44And, you know, like those protections were not holding up.
18:47So they're blitzing and getting through your protections.
18:49They're still dropping five and six in coverage.
18:52So a lot of reps, they got six in coverage over three in the route distribution and there's nobody open.
18:57It wasn't really working.
18:59And so whether that was, hey, let's try this and see if this works or let's try this, make them
19:05believe this is our plan and then pivot to more of a quick passing game where that has more five
19:09man protections, whatever, whatever the method was that got them to where this, the offense finally got to the point
19:16where they were moving the ball and had three 80 yard scoring drives against that defense.
19:19It really worked out, but it came down to, hey, we're going to max protect, play action down the field.
19:26K didn't work.
19:26They had a good pivot.
19:27They got out of it.
19:28They committed to the run.
19:29Those dirty runs were dirty early, but they broke open in the second half.
19:33And I thought Joe Brady did a really good job of managing that football game from an offensive perspective.
19:38How much confidence should that build, knowing that, by the way, Minnesota is very unique, like their blitz rate is
19:43so much higher than everybody, the way they play defense.
19:46But how much confidence should fans have now after that?
19:50Like, well, we scored 23 on the Minnesota defense.
19:53Like Jacksonville's got a good defense.
19:54Kansas City's got a good defense.
19:56But feeling that the Bills should be able to score their points on pretty much everybody, especially when we get
20:02to the playoffs.
20:04Yeah, it's huge.
20:04And I think this is that was probably the game for me with Joe Brady where I found myself like
20:08the most like, oh, yeah, you know, that was my most impressive moment to this point.
20:13And I mean, that's what this team needed to be.
20:15It was a rookie defensive coordinator.
20:17It was the youngest defensive roster in the league, all the first year starters in Buffalo.
20:22And this is a very expensive offense, like one of the most expensive offenses in the league.
20:26And, of course, the coordinator becomes the head coach.
20:28Like that was the unit that you were always supposed to be able to lean on.
20:31And, you know, so far they've proven to be that.
20:34Tougher tests are going to continue to come.
20:36And, you know, the big meaningful games are coming.
20:38But this is certainly a game that gives the Bills a lot of confidence for the different ways that they
20:45can win football games and lean on that offense to score on anybody.
20:50Joe Marino of the Locked on Bills podcast.
20:51We chat on Wednesdays.
20:53We'll chat again next week.
20:54The Jets this week, Joe.
20:55Any, you know, any concerns?
20:58Any areas that are every week?
21:01The Jets look like they're going to be competitive in the game and then they lose.
21:03Yeah, they look like a – if I'm a Jets fan, I guess they didn't make trades in part because
21:08they want to continue to evaluate Aaron Glenn as the coach, which is kind of wild.
21:12But whatever.
21:13I think the Jets, given that they have three first-round picks next year and who knows who their starting
21:18quarterback is next year, I do think there are some bones of a good team being built there.
21:24Maybe with a different coach.
21:25Like right now, I don't know.
21:26Aaron Glenn's going to lose them games.
21:28But there's some talent over there.
21:31Yeah, no question.
21:32I certainly feel like Aaron Glenn's proven that he's not a guy that's a good administrator of a football game,
21:38right?
21:38I mean, maybe he's got some good ideas for how to build a team and leadership, but like managing a
21:43football game, guys have been a disaster.
21:46And I do think there's a lot of likable talent.
21:49I mean, their offensive line has some pieces.
21:50Their young skill players look pretty strong.
21:52They've got some guys on defense mixing in veterans and young players, like at all levels of the team.
21:57It's just – it's a team that doesn't know how to play together and doesn't know how to win yet.
22:02And so I think there's a lot to like about their direction, but they've got to figure out the two
22:06most important things.
22:07That's the head coach and the quarterback.
22:09And so they've got the resources to, you know, make those choices.
22:15They'll have to be right about it.
22:17But, yeah, I think they're missing the two most important parts long term.
22:21And, you know, they're a scrappy team.
22:23Like even you watch them against Kansas City and you kind of think like, whoa, can they do this?
22:26And then they can't, right?
22:28But they're not a team to take lightly, obviously.
22:31And there's some likable things about what's going on.
22:33Should they, by the way, be – like if I'm a Jets fan, they've got the three first-round picks.
22:39But like the last month, Joe, it feels like the quarterback class is starting to look not that great.
22:44You're right, but Messamaker, this Oklahoma State quarterback, that's the one I hope goes not to the AFC East.
22:52That's what I'll say.
22:53I like that guy.
22:55All right.
22:56Joe Marino, Locked on Bills.
22:57Thanks, Joe.
22:58All right, guys.
22:59So I was just punching in the Athletics Playoff Simulator.
23:04And, Joe, I am proud to tell you the entire, for the most part, NFL New York Times playoff machine
23:13is back.
23:14Yeah.
23:14We are up and running.
23:17Is this early?
23:17This seems early for us.
23:18It seems –
23:19Week eight?
23:19Or week nine, right?
23:20But I can click every game and tell you odds of the one seed if the Bills win.
23:25Mm-hmm.
23:26Okay.
23:26You know what the odds of the one seed?
23:28If they just beat the Bills – sorry, they just beat the Jets and the Dolphins in those four games.
23:32Sure.
23:33The Bills are at 66% to get the one seed.
23:36Lovely.
23:37You want to add one more?
23:38New England?
23:39Okay.
23:4078%.
23:41Okay.
23:42Beat the Chiefs on Thanksgiving?
23:4589%.
23:45And that would leave Packers, Bears, and Broncos as the only three teams.
23:49And even if I give the Broncos the head-to-head win, the Bills would be 78%.
23:54So, you know, like, I really like their chances.
23:57I – do I want to go all the way to say, like, I think they're going to do it?
24:00I think they're going to do it.
24:01I think they're going to do it.
24:03I think they're going to do it, too.
24:05But I'm not taking Jacksonville lightly because they've got – especially their next three weeks.
24:08Soft schedule.
24:09Two Titans games in the next three weeks.
24:11Yeah.
24:11The Giants in between.
24:13The Titans just took the Bengals to the edge, right?
24:17Yeah, the Bengals play dumb games like that.
24:19They do.
24:19That's right.
24:208-0-3-0-5-50.
24:22Coming up 8 o'clock, we'll talk with Peyton Krebs.
24:24We've got Sabres and Lightning tonight from Key Bank Center.
24:28Big one in the division.
24:29We want to talk a little bit about what happened in Winnipeg last night.
24:33We'll kick that around.
24:33And give us a ring on the Imani hooker trade.
24:36And if you think the Bills will – will they get the one seed?
24:38We can start talking about that.
24:40Both of us confident?
24:42Overconfident, maybe?
24:43Maybe.
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