00:00 We are talking about technology.
00:02 And technology is about how the world is moving forward.
00:06 We are taking advantage of it.
00:07 And new innovations are coming.
00:09 But I remember that time, Ishfaq, when we used to study.
00:12 When we used to give exams.
00:14 And you know, Pakistan has a huge problem of load shedding.
00:17 So, so much electricity used to go.
00:18 So, what did you do?
00:19 You used to sit in the candle light and cut mosquitoes.
00:23 You are working hard in the heat.
00:26 You are preparing for the exam.
00:27 And the next day you are worried about what will happen.
00:30 But what has happened in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa?
00:33 With the help of technology, cheating has happened.
00:36 And there is a pen through Bluetooth device.
00:39 And there are ear plugs, Ishfaq.
00:42 Which are not visible.
00:43 Cutting edge technology.
00:44 Oh my God.
00:45 Okay.
00:46 Okay, see, she has said something about the students.
00:48 There are many people who are not educated.
00:50 So, they used to rely on the micro photo state in the past.
00:56 On the feathers.
00:57 On the feathers, on the hair.
00:59 And how they used to hide it from the students.
01:01 Once I saw in the room of the exam.
01:03 There was a young man there.
01:05 He was wearing a shirt and a shawl.
01:06 He was writing on his shawl.
01:08 He was writing the question with the shirt.
01:11 And you see, he was very confused.
01:13 Have you ever tried?
01:15 In such difficult situations.
01:16 No, I used to get very nervous.
01:18 So, I don't think there was such a sharp pen at that time.
01:23 So, it was very difficult.
01:26 It was difficult to put the pen in place.
01:28 But now, you see, so much technology is coming.
01:30 And people are taking advantage of it.
01:32 So, you see, in every field.
01:34 That is, good field and bad field.
01:35 It is happening everywhere.
01:36 But still, they were caught.
01:37 This incident came out in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.
01:40 Where you see, the education department is checking.
01:43 Obviously, the students who want to become doctors.
01:45 They copied from these facilities.
01:47 And some students, not all are talking here.
01:50 But, yes, they made this plan.
01:53 And during the checking, dozens of students were caught.
01:55 After that, these facilities were apparently in the form of a card or pen.
01:59 And a very small earplug was also in the ear.
02:01 And when all this was caught while copying.
02:05 So, 44 students from Marrakesh.
02:07 The police station about the dozens of students.
02:09 Fired and filed an FIR.
02:11 And it has been said about unfair means.
02:13 Allegation of dishonesty has been made.
02:15 We have with us, Secretary of Higher Education.
02:17 Dr. Anila Durrani Sahiba.
02:20 Thank you very much, Anila Durrani Sahiba.
02:22 I was being sarcastic as well.
02:24 How our youth is doing.
02:26 How did you find out?
02:30 There were so many secret facilities.
02:32 So, it is obvious to find out.
02:34 It will not be easy.
02:35 007
02:36 Hello.
02:39 Yes, Anila.
02:40 Hello.
02:41 Waalaikum Assalam.
02:42 Actually, you have raised a very good point.
02:47 It is very important.
02:48 Because the negative use of technology.
02:50 It is very dangerous.
02:52 It is like this.
02:53 You can use fire for positive use.
02:56 You can use it to cook food.
02:58 And you can use it to burn someone's house.
03:01 So, I think that technology.
03:04 On one hand.
03:06 It is very important.
03:08 Beneficial.
03:09 But the negative use of it is disastrous.
03:13 And we have to nurture our children.
03:19 We have to nurture their mindset.
03:24 We have to tell them what is right and what is wrong.
03:27 As far as Khair Pakhtunkhwa is concerned.
03:29 We have not been cheated in this incident.
03:34 We caught the children before cheating.
03:36 So, how did you find out?
03:37 This is very important.
03:38 Yes.
03:39 Actually, we got the news at night that there is a technology.
03:43 That something like this is going to happen.
03:45 So, I think the use of technology is not only in KP.
03:51 But it will be used in other places as well.
03:55 Definitely.
03:56 So, we took action on this.
03:59 So, this news came out.
04:01 So, not only the news came out.
04:03 We took action and saved the rights of the children who had the right.
04:11 So, when we got the news.
04:14 We have informed the education department.
04:18 Our chief secretary is Mr. Chaudhary Nadeem.
04:24 I heard that the students were successful in taking the devices.
04:29 The staff there, the teaching staff and the people who were watching.
04:35 They saw the signal in Bluetooth.
04:38 So, when the connection was…
04:39 No, no. It was dual.
04:41 We have some at the entrance.
04:43 Mostly, we have some at the entrance.
04:45 Because we had detectors.
04:46 We had made all the arrangements at night.
04:48 The executive director of our ITA is also very cooperative.
04:54 He is very active and very honest.
04:56 So, he mobilized his team.
05:00 We had 43 centers.
05:02 We made sure that our detectors are good.
05:06 We reinforced our team.
05:09 And most of the children were caught at the entrance.
05:14 If anything went inside, in any case, we turned on Bluetooth and detected them.
05:23 But, Anila, there are two different things.
05:26 Legally, one thing is to catch someone caught in the act red-handed.
05:30 And to catch someone before the action is taken.
05:33 There are two different things.
05:34 If you have filed a case against them, it will be of a different nature.
05:38 Filing a case is not our job.
05:42 It is the job of the law enforcing agencies.
05:43 We have a specific pro forma for our children.
05:47 We have arrested them in unfair means.
05:50 ITA does that.
05:51 Then we call the police and hand them over.
05:54 Anila Sahiba, I want to know this.
05:57 They adopted an innovative way of cheating.
06:00 Although, it was not successful.
06:02 Cheating with a small letter or a small note is different.
06:09 I have never heard of a case like this against anyone.
06:12 Am I right?
06:13 Of course.
06:14 It is an act of unfair means.
06:17 The law enforcing agencies, police and the court will decide.
06:23 We have fulfilled our duty.
06:26 But, you are getting our point.
06:28 That is also unfair means.
06:30 This is for the first time.
06:34 This is for the first time.
06:36 Using this kind of gadgets.
06:38 For the first time, I think so.
06:40 It was something new for me as well.
06:45 Now, when we have done this,
06:47 our chief secretary has given us the authority.
06:55 We have formed a committee with the IT board.
06:57 The sensitive agencies and higher education will resolve this.
07:03 What strategy should be taken for the future?
07:05 You have pointed out a manual way of cheating.
07:09 And a technical way of cheating.
07:12 You have given us a good example.
07:16 We have to take care of this point as well.
07:19 Thank you so much, Anila Durrani.
07:23 She was with us.
07:26 She is a big concern.
07:28 But, we have caught her.
07:29 She is not going to move forward.
