00:00 The positive thing was that in the stock market, it was very fast.
00:06 The 100 index exceeded 56,000 points for the first time.
00:10 Now, basically, the positivity was that people were talking about it.
00:15 I spoke to some people and they said that,
00:17 first, the negotiations with IMF have become a little positive.
00:21 Secondly, the review they had.
00:23 Secondly, the date of the elections has come.
00:28 Everyone is claiming to win.
00:30 You are also claiming to win.
00:32 If there are elections, your party will obviously succeed.
00:35 But will it be easy to handle the economy?
00:39 Will it be an easy task for you?
00:44 Look, Mr. Ashfaq, this will be a big challenge.
00:47 Whatever government comes.
00:49 And just like President Zardari said that we will have to create a new economy.
00:54 This is very important.
00:55 And what is happening now, I was listening to him, I couldn't speak.
00:59 But the issue is that the level playing field is in its place.
01:05 If the People's Party and PTI come, then this meeting will not be held in the Governor's House.
01:09 Just like the Governor of Punjab invited Mr. Mian and the whole party,
01:13 invite the People's Party too.
01:15 Have their meeting there.
01:17 So if this special favor is being done,
01:20 all the politicians, even if it is Mr. Mian's invitation,
01:24 it is a good thing.
01:25 We would have come earlier.
01:27 Just like the way they came,
01:28 the appeals were made in their absence.
01:30 A new jurisprudence is being written.
01:33 Biometrics are being done in the State Lounge.
01:35 It is a good thing.
01:36 The Prime Minister has been there three times.
01:38 Then give this protocol to Raja Parvez Ashraf too.
01:41 Give it to Shahid Khan Khan Abbasi too.
01:43 Give it to Mr. Gilani too.
01:44 Look, what is the level playing field?
01:48 We are going into elections.
01:49 There are elections in two and a half months.
01:51 So if one party is being favored and the other party is not,
01:55 then this is clear.
01:57 People think that the wind is blowing in that direction,
01:59 they will make this government.
02:00 People are also participating in the same party.
02:02 This is called pre-poll rigging.
02:04 If I say it bluntly, this is what it is.
02:08 But despite this, what you were saying,
02:11 that we will go into elections and we will go into the elections alone.
02:16 And we have confidence in the votes of the people.
02:19 We have confidence in the people.
02:21 We understand that we have served.
02:24 Okay, let's talk about this service, my brother.
02:27 The electoral reforms that have not been done.
02:29 Okay, I wanted to come to the economy,
02:32 but since you have already talked about it,
02:33 Mr. Shalila, there have been no electoral reforms
02:35 as a result of which the result can be made transparent.
02:39 You are claiming about the level playing field.
02:42 Or you said, Mr. Waleed said,
02:43 and it is also being said to Fazlur Rehman Sahib,
02:46 that his community is also saying.
02:48 So, on what basis are you saying this,
02:51 or is your community so determined,
02:54 and they have the determination and belief
02:56 that God willing, the Prime Minister will be elected?
02:59 If all these are the concerns, then still.
03:03 Look, people know who has done what,
03:06 who has come through the thievery door,
03:08 who has been selected,
03:09 who is trying to be selected.
03:12 The thing is, no matter how much you favoritism,
03:16 no matter how much you become a favorite,
03:18 but at the same time,
03:20 this time, the youth of this country,
03:22 should not be robbed of their ballots.
03:25 There cannot be an experiment with this country again and again.
03:28 The slogan of giving respect to the vote,
03:30 which has been going on for the past four years,
03:32 I have not heard that slogan today.
03:33 Otherwise, I used to sit in one show,
03:35 and within 45 minutes,
03:37 they used to say 45 times, give respect to the vote.
03:40 Now, they have not said it once.
03:42 Neither has Mr. Mian said it,
03:43 nor has any of their representatives said it.
03:45 Now, what happened?
03:47 Our effort, desire and struggle is this,
03:51 that people should be allowed to use their vote properly.
03:56 Don't rob the ballots.
03:57 There is more unrest in this country.
03:59 You are saying it now, right?
04:00 Obviously, it should be like this,
04:02 that people should get the opportunity to use their right to vote properly.
04:06 Mr. Murad, now you tell me,
04:09 that your point of view is that,
04:12 there are two and a half months left,
04:13 you should prepare for the elections,
04:14 and then you should talk to this court.
04:17 But...
04:18 How will it happen?
04:19 This...
04:20 Yes, Ms. Sharmila, I got your point.
04:22 Now, I want to go a little further,
04:23 Mr. Murad, please wait.
04:24 How will the elections be held?
04:25 Murad...
04:26 If you get selected and sit down from the start.
04:28 Yes, Ms. Sharmila,
04:32 the voice is reaching you, I got your point.
04:34 Mr. Murad, please tell me,
04:35 this is about the economy,
04:37 everyone is claiming for it,
04:40 and obviously, your party will be optimistic,
04:42 that they will get the opportunity,
04:43 and the people will trust them.
04:45 But the economy...
04:47 The heatwave is increasing,
04:49 so there is a shadow of relief,
04:51 but the test ahead will be very tough,
04:54 because people used to wait for three and a half years,
04:59 that it is a difficult time,
05:00 and then maybe the government will give relief before it goes.
05:02 Now people are sitting idle.
05:04 Will it be easy for your party,
05:06 if you get a success in the elections?
05:09 Look, I will tell you, Mr. Sathe,
05:12 I don't think,
05:13 anyone can solve this economic crisis,
05:18 you can't do it by putting a band-aid.
05:21 This band-aid, which we put on every time,
05:25 is a band-aid.
05:27 It is like a band-aid on a bullet wound.
05:29 Someone has shot,
05:31 and you put a band-aid on it,
05:33 and you are trying to heal the wound.
05:37 As long as all the debt of Pakistan,
05:41 I am just telling you one point,
05:43 there are multiple points,
05:44 which need to be worked on,
05:45 there are multiple issues.
05:47 As long as all the debt of Pakistan,
05:49 is not rescheduled,
05:52 because what do we do now?
05:53 We take money,
05:55 and we pay it.
05:56 We take more loans,
05:58 and we pay it.
05:59 As long as the loans,
06:01 if they are 10 years,
06:02 we pay them on 20 years,
06:05 and those on 20 years,
06:06 we pay them on 30 years.
06:07 As long as there is no rescheduled debt,
06:09 it is the biggest issue.
06:11 We are stuck in a swamp right now.
