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Stefan Molyneux
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Friday Night Live 24 Nov 2023

Are there people in your life who are consumed by decadence, corruption, abuse, dysfunction, mass problems, addictions, and so on and you desperately want to help them? Perhaps some just aren't doing well? Let's talk about why by dipping into demonology.

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Transcript
00:00:00 Yeah, so if you've seen Napoleon or not, let me know. I've heard it's pretty
00:00:04 bad. Did I purchase any tech on Black Friday? I have not purchased any
00:00:09 new tech. I mean it's funny, you know, because it's a business stuff so I could
00:00:14 buy most of what I want but I honestly I have just about everything
00:00:22 that I need. I have just about everything that I need. But yeah, so directors making
00:00:27 movies about entrepreneurs or war heroes just have war heroes yelling and
00:00:30 screaming at people and entrepreneurs yelling and screaming at people, which
00:00:34 is not really a thing in the entrepreneurial world or the military
00:00:37 world. So Ridley Scott, well first of all the movie's supposed to take
00:00:43 place when Napoleon's in his 20s and I mean Joachim Phoenix is like a hoary
00:00:51 moonscape north of 50 so it's really really not good. Really not good. Battle
00:00:59 scenes were well done. Yeah, but I mean who cares about battle scenes? Like I'm
00:01:02 sorry I'm not 12, right? I don't care about battle scenes, I care about
00:01:06 character and history. And I heard that Ridley Scott has Napoleon firing
00:01:10 cannons at the pyramids or whatever it is, which he never did. He actually got a
00:01:14 bunch of Egyptologists in there to record the data about all of this sort
00:01:18 of stuff. But I remember I had a director when I was in the National
00:01:24 Theatre School we were playing, we were doing King Lear and I was Cornwall, the
00:01:29 guy who gouges another guy's eyes out. I got to play a really evil character which was
00:01:32 kind of fun. And he got mad at us for not reacting because you know he
00:01:38 was all kind of really angry because we had these big sort of
00:01:41 internal Marlon Brando deep movie style reactions and he's like "Ugh!" you know
00:01:47 just "You gotta react, you gotta react!" and he literally threw chairs and it's just
00:01:52 like I don't know people think that tantrums has something to do with high
00:01:55 quality art and I think Ridley Scott's one of those kind of guys. Hit me with a
00:02:00 "why" if you do you think Napoleon was short? Short guy syndrome? Hit me with a
00:02:05 "why" if you think Napoleon was short.
00:02:12 Just out of curiosity if you know. It's a misconception right? So they
00:02:17 said he was 5'2" but at the time an inch in France was 1.2 inches in England so
00:02:26 he was actually 5'8". He was 5'8" so he was not short for his time in fact a
00:02:31 little bit taller than average, than normal. So yeah it's just
00:02:37 people have to sort of explain how people become great. Short guy
00:02:43 syndrome yeah like us all short guys end up taking over a third of Europe yeah
00:02:49 all short guys that just is the lineup you want the third of Europe today okay
00:02:53 this afternoon from 10 to 11 30 you can have a third of Europe but then you got
00:02:57 to give right to the next short guy and all that kind of stuff. Yeah no he's not
00:03:02 he was not not a short guy. People just have to kind of explain why it is that
00:03:07 people end up great and they have to explain it with the pettiest of possible
00:03:11 reasons right. Yeah so I don't know hit me with a "why" if you're interested in
00:03:18 review of Napoleon.
00:03:22 "Hey Steph I'm a bit tardy." Well if you had a TARDIS you wouldn't be. Oh boy
00:03:29 there's an old joke. Well it's not a show still running isn't it? Undead Doctor
00:03:34 Who stuff right? English propaganda. "I live in a Napoleonic law state in the
00:03:43 US where am I?" New Orleans I assume New Orleans right? I only know that because
00:03:49 of a streetcar named Desire. You ever heard of the Napoleonic code? So yeah.
00:03:54 "You would be interested in a review of Nappy?" Napoleon? Really? Oh God I may have
00:04:01 just blown my bad movie quota on the Marvels. Gosh I don't know if you've
00:04:06 listened to where the review is you know I did at that. Okay listen if you guys you
00:04:10 guys want a review I am your need pad clad philosophy slave so I will oil
00:04:16 myself up and get myself down to the movie theater so if you want a review I
00:04:20 will I'll give y'all a review. A review. Doctor Who is still going but it's
00:04:28 destroying itself from woke nonsense. Yes yes yes. Strange that Ireland suppressed
00:04:35 free speech and then well anyway it's inevitable right? All right questions
00:04:42 comments I have some thoughts on demonology which I might share but I'm
00:04:50 not trying to be a tease but I am here for you I'm here if you've got questions
00:04:56 or topics that you want you guys tend to provoke me to like the greatest answers
00:05:00 known to man so this is the first live stream I've been able to catch since the
00:05:05 new Dr. Duke video thank you for having him on again it was a great conversation
00:05:09 yeah he's actually he may he may read one of my novels and we'll do a show on
00:05:13 that which I think would be a lot of fun and interesting I might give him almost
00:05:19 that'll teach him oh yeah you want a novel here's 400,000 words good luck
00:05:23 punk
00:05:26 you'd think that atheists would have a little bit more humility when Christians
00:05:36 keep getting it right you know you just have a little humility right because I
00:05:39 think atheists lined up to take the vaccine like nobody's business right
00:05:43 because magic science cult but a lot of Christians didn't and there's no one who
00:05:48 says gee I wonder how they made slightly better decisions based upon the fact
00:05:52 that apparently the beliefs are just whatever whatever right
00:05:56 did you see the trans shooter that was supported in the US I didn't read about
00:06:08 that but I mean there's a lot of a lot of strange hormones around right a lot
00:06:11 of microplastics and a lot of women are both flushing birth control pills down
00:06:17 the toilet or they're just peeing massive amounts of hormones into the
00:06:22 water supply which I'm sure is having some strange stuff on on some strange
00:06:27 effects on people's perceptions so to speak and maybe even their hormones and
00:06:33 so on
00:06:36 I love to typing and I don't want to get started on a topic if you all have
00:06:42 questions or comments because you know I could do a solo show or I can do a
00:06:46 live stream and if you have if you want me to do the demonology stuff don't
00:06:50 touch the receipt paper I've heard that too I don't know about that I I don't
00:06:54 know about that now eggs and bacon are good for you again so we don't like the
00:07:02 nutritional news just wait five minutes beef prevents cancer you know just stuff
00:07:07 like that right so
00:07:10 I just wait for the typing to die down and then we'll we'll get going
00:07:21 yeah I woke up with some wild thoughts about demons this morning
00:07:26 demonology hit me with a deed should I just get started on the topic I don't
00:07:30 want to be too much of a tease all right demonology all right hit me with a why
00:07:36 please if you have people in your life who are consumed by decadence corruption
00:07:44 abuse dysfunction mass problems addictions and so on and you desperately
00:07:49 want to help them
00:07:52 hit me with a why if you have people I mean they could be in your mind or
00:07:57 anything like that but people who are not doing well and you just desperately
00:08:02 wanted to want to help them earlier in the year I asked you if I should propose
00:08:06 after four years and she said yes and we're getting married next year
00:08:10 fantastic 40 brother well done you ford at the river you cross the Rubicon you
00:08:16 snagged the V good job man good job well done I'm sure you will be embarking upon
00:08:20 a life of a life of bliss dedication and and commitment so it looks like about
00:08:26 about half of you Jared what about me it looks like about half of you have that
00:08:31 all right so I was thinking about this I was thinking about this I still do
00:08:42 erupt in random discomforts about people in the past it's not super common but it
00:08:47 certainly does happen and I will revisit old decisions to stop helping people
00:08:54 just to make sure that it was a good decision right for me decisions are like
00:09:01 you know if you yell in a canyon you go to echo echo echo that it kind of fades
00:09:04 away right it just kind of kind of fades away and so for me I make a decision and
00:09:13 I don't know if you guys do this and let me know if you do but when I make a
00:09:16 decision one that's you know we always almost always have to make decisions on
00:09:19 incomplete information right you know we're all foundationally aware of that
00:09:23 like we we all have to make decisions on incomplete information and the most
00:09:27 important decisions are often incomplete right so I still revisit Twitter
00:09:33 politics you know whatever stuff I have haven't talked about in a while that was
00:09:37 most controversial I still revisit whether it's worth doing those things
00:09:41 and when it comes to people that I have stopped helping I revisit the decision
00:09:47 I'm not a person who just you know I make a decision I put it in a vault I
00:09:52 throw it in the ocean it disappears from view I move on and never look back you
00:09:58 know like that sociopathy training video where you always see the guy in
00:10:01 sunglasses walking away from the giant explosion behind him I'm not even gonna
00:10:04 look around I don't care so I make a decision and what I do is I revisit it
00:10:12 just to double-check just to make sure make sure I understand make sure it's
00:10:16 the right make none of the variables have changed and then what happens is
00:10:19 over time like a fading echo the decision drifts away from my mind and
00:10:26 then if I think about it I'm like oh gosh I haven't thought about this in six
00:10:32 months or a year and that's when I know it was the right decision. Do you guys
00:10:38 have that at all? I mean maybe I'm not saying it's the right or wrong thing to
00:10:41 do but do you have that where you revisit decisions and you over time get
00:10:47 more comfortable with them or you guys could be just like one and done made the
00:10:51 decision don't look back I don't know which is better or worse I'm just saying
00:10:53 my experience is I'm a bit of a circle exit guy yeah you really look at them
00:10:58 right Dave yeah it does seem to be a thing and it certainly works for me and
00:11:03 because you're making decisions within complete information you always have to
00:11:06 be aware of new information right I mean the reason I didn't take the jab was not
00:11:12 because I knew for certain it was bad I mean nobody did know right nobody knew
00:11:16 for certain I mean well like maybe the people who did the actual studies but
00:11:22 that just was incomplete information right and so you have to revisit that
00:11:29 right you know if after I don't know a couple of years the jab was like
00:11:33 excellent for everyone's health and the unvaccinated were doing very badly and
00:11:37 the vaccinated were doing very well and there were no side effects and right you
00:11:41 know that would have been information so I circle back and and check these kinds
00:11:45 of decisions so I was thinking about that with regards to people I knew in
00:11:49 the past and I had a kind of like do you ever have this thing where you're sort
00:11:55 of thinking in the morning it's really cozy right I'm under a big big old
00:11:59 weighted blanket I'm like nestled between two elephant ass cheeks dozing
00:12:05 away in the morning and I was I had a kind of half dream half vision if that
00:12:13 makes sense and sometimes when I have these half dreams sorry third dream
00:12:17 thought third vision third thought and those are usually like that's the
00:12:23 trifecta like the triple lasers from the Death Star that and so I have that time
00:12:28 of very great mental and analogous fertility in the morning
00:12:35 and oh so you John you you decide ahead of time but you you go through all the
00:12:43 iterations ahead of time and then you leave it behind whereas I don't okay so
00:12:48 every time I touch base with friends I've walked away from the conversation
00:12:52 screams of the reasons I can't be around them in about 10 minutes or so yeah so
00:12:58 I had this kind of a vision and in the vision I was in quicksand I was in
00:13:05 quicksand and I couldn't get out and of course you know with quicksand when you
00:13:11 struggle you go further down right so you kind of do because you're slowly
00:13:14 sinking anyway but if you struggle and try and get out and and these these
00:13:18 movies were around a lot when I was a kid like quicksand was just like the big
00:13:21 the big thing like I'd watch the Johnny Weissmiller and Maureen O'Sullivan Tarzan
00:13:24 movies and there was always quicksand and it was always the same thing you
00:13:27 gotta get a vine to them and pull them out and there was the quicksand it's
00:13:30 like a cheap dramatic thing that people had in movies when I was when I was a
00:13:34 kid and so I had this vision of myself in quicksand and there was a child that
00:13:39 I loved it wasn't my daughter but it was a child that I loved and the child saw
00:13:43 that I was in quicksand right the child saw that I was in quicksand and because
00:13:51 the child cared about me the child came to help me right it came to came to help
00:14:00 me out of the quicksand but the problem was of course we all know the problem
00:14:04 was that the child was too weak to pull me out of quicksand and of course what
00:14:08 was going to happen to the child when the child came to save me from the
00:14:11 quicksand is that the child would be pulled into the quicksand or would fall
00:14:18 into the quicksand and then you'd get two deaths for the price of one does
00:14:23 this analogy of this sort of setup make sense
00:14:29 good good okay so the child loved me wanted to help me wanted but but I had
00:14:42 to keep the child away from the quicksand had to get the child away from
00:14:48 the quicksand now pleading with the child to go back to move back didn't
00:14:54 help because the child was crying and wanted to help me and wanted to save me
00:14:59 so I had the urge to say to the child who was coming to save me I hate you I've
00:15:07 never loved you get away from me you disgust me harsh horrible right but if
00:15:17 that was your child and the only way you could get your child to stay away from
00:15:20 the quicksand would be to scream at the child to shout horrible things at the
00:15:26 child to get the child because you see the bond it's the bond that's gonna get
00:15:29 the child killed it's the love that's gonna get the child killed because the
00:15:32 child's gonna end up in the quicksand so you have to break the bond to save the
00:15:37 child sorry I don't like that hand-clappy stuff I just realized I was
00:15:42 kind of doing it but does that make sense I had to break the bond with the
00:15:51 child to save the life of the child
00:15:54 so I think I thought back on the people in my my childhood and my youth who
00:16:07 behaved in ways that were inevitably going to drive me away
00:16:13 inevitably that there was they were in a sense screaming I hate you I never loved
00:16:21 you you disgust me you're gross right and that they were in fact trying to
00:16:29 drive me away now why would they try to drive me away if my child or this child
00:16:37 in this this scenario if the child could save me then I would with great
00:16:43 gratitude accept the help of the child and thank the child enormously but
00:16:47 because the child cannot save me and the child doesn't understand the situation I
00:16:54 have to drive the child away by breaking and reversing the bond and I really
00:17:00 really thought this morning that the people in my past with their actions
00:17:06 were driving me away because
00:17:11 they couldn't be saved I could be saved and I was I could be saved but they
00:17:24 could not be saved and they were screaming at me these
00:17:31 imprecations attacks curses condemnations to drive me away from the
00:17:38 quicksand so that the devils didn't get two souls for the price of one
00:17:45 now there's two thoughts about that one is that
00:17:58 you know like I've mentioned this before right so somebody who was very close to
00:18:02 me when I was engaged to my wife he said I'm not gonna bother trying to get to
00:18:10 know your fiancee because you're just gonna get divorced anyway
00:18:14 now that's just to drive you away right I mean this has been the absolute
00:18:22 complete and total love of my life and you know we've now been married 21 years
00:18:27 and I've been through some real roller coasters as you guys all know and that
00:18:34 is driving you away right that's driving you away I mean I once had a wrangle
00:18:42 with someone over an inheritance that the behavior was so appalling on the
00:18:47 part of the other person that again it's just absolutely driving driving you away
00:18:51 right I mean absolutely it's impossible for that to be any other any other thing
00:19:00 so why why would they drive you away or what are you missing or what was I
00:19:16 missing that I needed to be driven away oh it's currently happening you can
00:19:24 certainly tell me more
00:19:27 why did they need to drive me away and the reason that I think the reason that
00:19:39 they had to drive me away was because I was wrong and I was selfish because I
00:19:51 was able to save myself I thought that other people could be saved
00:20:00 in other words I was able to pull myself it's almost like there's me and Bob
00:20:07 right and we both get into quicksand but Bob's quicksand is more watery and
00:20:14 deeper and there's more of a downward suction maybe there's tentacles at the
00:20:17 bottom pulling him down so I get out of my quicksand and then I go over to Bob
00:20:21 to get him out of his quicksand but Bob knows that if I go in it's two for the
00:20:26 price of one so I think that my quicksand is like Bob's quicksand I go
00:20:30 to save Bob and Bob's I get away right
00:20:34 wow that's prophetic Steph what I've gained from being ostracized out of this
00:20:40 world
00:20:42 I mean do you ever get this this thought of this feeling and it's like well
00:20:52 philosophy and virtue and whatever like they're so great difficult obviously at
00:20:58 times but like everything that's worthwhile there's so great like why
00:21:02 wouldn't you
00:21:05 why wouldn't you do this why wouldn't why on earth wouldn't you like the
00:21:12 glories the beauties the joys the depth the magnificent the happiness the humor
00:21:18 the love the affection the great sex like all of the stuff that you get out
00:21:23 of romantic and marital love the the joyful parenting the great connection
00:21:28 with your kids like why like the people who aren't doing this are just kind of
00:21:35 kidding right like they're not serious about it like why wouldn't you why
00:21:39 wouldn't you
00:21:42 now of course the difference I think I don't know for sure because you can't
00:21:50 get honesty out of evildoers but I think the difference is that for me I've
00:21:56 certainly done wrong in my life but I've never done evil
00:22:01 and certainly not as an adult and I've you know tried to do the right thing of
00:22:10 the good thing of the decent thing with you know some spotty results and some
00:22:13 obvious inconsistency but I've never done evil
00:22:22 so the quicksand of course is the conscience right the quicksand is the
00:22:28 conscience if you do wrong then your conscience will take you down
00:22:35 especially if you do wrong by claiming to be good if you do wrong like just
00:22:39 like an animal does wrong in a sense like you you know you just sneak and
00:22:42 betray and stab or whatever right it's terrible but if you do wrong through the
00:22:47 process of claiming to be good right that's that's unrecoverable immorality
00:22:51 because you know what virtue is you just use it to achieve evil I mean you can't
00:22:59 say to a con man but you don't even know what trust is he knows exactly what
00:23:02 trust is because that's what he uses and manipulates to get his ill-gotten gains
00:23:06 right so if you use morality to get and achieve immorality - if you use the
00:23:12 camouflage of virtue in order to pursue and achieve evil well then you're
00:23:16 literally gone and done and unrecoverable there is no recovery from that
00:23:27 because if as Socrates says evil is a form of ignorance okay so evil is a form
00:23:34 of ignorance so when you tell people better they'll do better but if somebody
00:23:39 already knows morality and has chosen evil then instructing them on morality
00:23:44 is only making them better at evil that make sense
00:23:48 that's what Prager says is the only unforgivable sin doing evil in the name
00:23:54 of God
00:24:00 so if you train a con man on the importance of trust he's going to
00:24:10 judo-flip that trust from a virtue to an evil by using the knowledge you're
00:24:15 giving him on trust to further generate trust from others so he can exploit them
00:24:22 more does that make sense
00:24:27 a guy who's very high status who knows that women really want him who uses that
00:24:31 to just use them for sex and toss them aside is what are you gonna say are you
00:24:37 gonna say well you know women really do find you attractive and really women
00:24:41 really do want to be with you and they do want to pair bond with you and they
00:24:44 do want to keep you for themselves he's like yeah I know it's great because then
00:24:48 I could really shaft them that way so to speak right
00:24:52 you
00:24:54 because the conscience evolved to be in group preference tribal but now people
00:25:02 are using it for universal morality which short-circuits the conscience the
00:25:09 conscience for in group preference like just my local tribe I'm gonna be loyal
00:25:13 to them but to hell with everyone else well that's kind of animalistic right
00:25:16 that's like the the lions are tribal within themselves but they're not
00:25:19 tribe they don't have universal loyalty to other lions or to the zebras or
00:25:24 anything like that right
00:25:27 so if you just use your conscience for like in group loyalty and stuff that's
00:25:35 kind of animalistic but it's within the bounds of how it evolved and if you use
00:25:41 your conscience for universal morality but actually follow universal morality
00:25:44 then that's fine too but if you use the pretense of universal morality for in
00:25:49 group preference well that's I mean that's that's a hole with no bottom that
00:25:57 is a quicksand from which salvation is impossible there's no bottom and you
00:26:05 what are you gonna do are you gonna teach people about universal morality no
00:26:08 they already know about it they already know all about it because they're using
00:26:11 it I mean you some expert hacker you don't sit there and teach him how to use
00:26:17 a keyboard he already knows how to use a keyboard you don't say you know it's
00:26:20 possible to hack into systems he already knows how to do that like there's no
00:26:23 knowledge you can give him about computers that's gonna make him change
00:26:31 if he's a black hat right
00:26:40 so when somebody insults you morally
00:26:44 they are lost beyond reason
00:26:48 this is sort of the woke universe and it happens on the right as well but when
00:26:53 somebody insults you morally they're lost beyond reason because they're using
00:26:59 morality to exploit others and the morality is supposed to be about
00:27:04 universalism and universal rules and you know the old white privilege thing well
00:27:07 isn't that kind of racist no whites can't be raised like that kind of stuff
00:27:10 right
00:27:12 Satanism 101 perversion of the sacred evil disguised as good to mock his
00:27:27 creator yeah this is serving as a meta reframe the whole narrative shifts I
00:27:30 think so like that's what I was really thinking about this morning this is why
00:27:33 I wanted to do an introduction to demonology here
00:27:37 you
00:27:39 you know the answer to that question run out of excuses you know the answer to
00:27:51 that question so
00:27:55 hit me with a why if this sort of makes sense and is is useful I know that's a
00:28:06 double thing but hit me with a why if this is useful and comprehensible I'm
00:28:12 not saying perfectly argued but just useful and comprehensible
00:28:17 I think I think it's helpful right
00:28:29 so then the question is why are they driving you away from destruction why
00:28:37 why are they driving you away from destruction because wouldn't the devil
00:28:42 within them want you to join in the quicksand right just like why wouldn't
00:28:50 oh yeah no I'm almost out come on come out and then pull you in right why this
00:28:54 has been a constant thing in my life that when I try to help people who are
00:28:57 corrupt beyond words they drive me away it's a wild thing I don't think it's
00:29:01 just for me I think just I you know talk to a lot of people they don't want to
00:29:07 feel the pain of themselves seeing there is hope when you leave then hope leaves
00:29:10 that's I think that's obviously brilliant I think that's brilliant Dave
00:29:16 and I think I want to make a note of that because I think that's well I agree
00:29:20 with you therefore it's brilliant I don't know but why why wouldn't they
00:29:24 pull you in is Darwin promoting virtue somehow okay try and stay with the
00:29:33 conversation here try and stay with the con I don't know why people just blurp
00:29:37 bleh what does that got to do with what we're saying that's a totally that's a
00:29:43 total tangent it's a non sequitur and what that means is that the conversation
00:29:48 is provoking anxiety within you and you want to intellectualize and distract me
00:29:51 just dismantle your emotions try and stay with the conversation my friend I
00:29:55 appreciate you being here thank you so much for being here but trying to drag
00:29:59 me off into some or distract everyone right this is staying away from the
00:30:03 conversation right just try and stay but I'll you know just hold on just type it
00:30:07 into notepad and when we're done right but I'm either gonna have to like when
00:30:12 you say stuff like that is Darwin promoting virtue somehow it's completely
00:30:15 separate conversation Darwinian Darwinism evolution and virtue is a
00:30:21 whole separate conversation nothing to do with demonology right so what that
00:30:25 means is I either have to ignore you which is kind of rude or I have to
00:30:29 chastise you which is kind of distracting is our biology somehow
00:30:32 promoting virtue see that's the same thing I just asked you to stop doing
00:30:38 that and you just replaced Darwin with biology which is kind of the same thing
00:30:42 oh boy you really are feeling upset by this part of the combo okay I mean just
00:30:46 asking you to manage your feelings because this is a collective
00:30:49 conversation right and if we're trying to sing a song and you come in with a
00:30:53 totally different song it's kind of discordant right we're just trying to
00:30:56 harmonize a little here and we can get to your song but we got to finish this
00:30:58 one right I am distracted right Dave says thanks my alcoholic and stoner
00:31:08 friends don't want the pain associated with me being moral they see themselves
00:31:11 and don't want to be constantly reminded that there are choices I represent
00:31:15 Christ in salvation or morals and they represent constant pain and Satan's
00:31:19 promises a physical high of drugs or pain is the best it can get right yeah
00:31:27 a love of drugs is a hatred of self and of natural right
00:31:33 so why does the devil in possession of the person not crook his finger and draw
00:31:41 you in to the quicksand why pushing people away if you've made bad choices
00:31:51 and are scared of hurting people you might push them away to protect them
00:31:54 because you don't want to experience pain you do right so the idea could be
00:31:58 could be a Catholic say you can be possessed against your will so they're
00:32:05 not necessarily an evil person maybe sometimes only a victim themselves
00:32:11 unlike neocons who are happily possessed so Catholics say you can be
00:32:15 possessed against your will I bet you see that with children sometimes but can
00:32:21 adults who are praying to God and have a relationship with Jesus can they be
00:32:27 possessed against their will Satan only lets in people he can conquer if Christ
00:32:34 is in your heart he will usually leave you be so why in the secular sense right
00:32:40 why because this happens among atheists too right why is it that the people curse
00:32:48 you away from the quicksand exorcists have talked about demons attacking holy
00:32:55 people no I get that but attacking is not possession
00:32:59 come on yeah attacking is not possessing you're moving the goalposts why do people
00:33:08 push you away from a salvation that they can't you cannot achieve why do they
00:33:14 push you away from a salvation you cannot achieve
00:33:18 somebody says no that's not correct every possessed person gives the demon
00:33:25 position permission in some way I think so interesting that in Christianity we
00:33:30 were all born as sinners and need to be baptized how is that relevant to the
00:33:35 question at hand oh man you non-sequitur people man it's tough I'm not trying to
00:33:42 be like mr. conversational fascist here but you guys pretty tough to have a
00:33:49 conversation with okay thank you so you never find out that you couldn't save
00:33:54 them leaves you guilt-ridden ooh that's dark that's dark
00:34:02 interesting I mean make a note of that that's that's very good but you can find
00:34:11 out that you can't save them no it's not it's not let's deaf talk I'm perfectly
00:34:16 happy to have I mean this is a live stream it's not let me talk this is a
00:34:20 conversation it's just I want people to have a conversation that's not a total
00:34:23 non sequitur my neighbor has two rabbits
00:34:29 that's from Jerry McGuire or something like that why yeah so there's a couple
00:34:39 of reasons why and you guys have them down pat so one of them is that there's
00:34:44 an original self or true self or a better self down there trapped under the
00:34:47 demon who's screaming at you to get away right in the original analogy could you
00:34:54 repeat the question I think I've done it about six or seven times so I'm not
00:34:58 going to but so in the original analogy I had to curse the child who was coming
00:35:03 to save me so the child wouldn't get sucked into the quicksand and die and
00:35:08 then we would both die together so
00:35:13 it could be that the idea that there's an original self buried under the demon
00:35:18 who's saying get away get away get away I can't be saved right you know like the
00:35:24 the mom who's blocking the shark from the kids saying get to shore and she's
00:35:28 being chewed up right so there's an original self down there that's
00:35:32 screaming
00:35:35 for you to get away so that you don't die but then the question is if the demon
00:35:40 has so much control over the personality that the person is not able to be saved
00:35:43 how could they get the word out how could they scream past the flaccid
00:35:50 webbing of the demons wings and get to you
00:35:54 could it be that gives them one last excuse when everything else is lost when
00:36:01 they have wasted every opportunity that I can say well I saved Steph after all
00:36:04 but I don't think I mean you could be right Manuel but I don't think that
00:36:07 people ever get to that you may be talking about a real unconscious
00:36:10 motivation here Dave says most people don't want you to break their image or
00:36:14 identity of themselves if they let you in they must say goodbye to their old
00:36:18 life that they're defined by they don't want to do the righteous suffering they
00:36:21 don't see salvation as possible I was Catholic as a child but they got weird
00:36:29 kind of satanic actually don't lol that stuff that's terrible I'm sorry about
00:36:32 that the child is a mirror of their innocence which has since been destroyed
00:36:39 hmm so it could be their original self is pushing you away I can't fight the
00:36:49 demon I've lost to the demon but you get away but again if they had that will to
00:36:54 push you away from the quicksand why couldn't they fight if they can fight
00:36:59 the demon off enough to get the word to you in whatever twisted fashion they can
00:37:02 or they do why can't they fight the demon so I'm not saying I mean we're
00:37:08 deep in analogy land here so I'm not saying this is any kind of it but I find
00:37:12 that answer not fully satisfying because if they can fight the demon enough to
00:37:17 get the word out to you to get away why can't they fight the demon enough to get
00:37:21 saved so I don't know I don't know about that so there's another possibility
00:37:28 there's another possibility which is the demon doesn't want to see you resist the
00:37:35 demon so it's the demon screaming get away because if you resist the demon
00:37:39 that strengthens the soul the demon has power over because he sees somebody else
00:37:47 successfully resist the demon so the demon says get away so that you don't
00:37:52 win against the demon and thus empower his victim does that I know we're sort
00:37:56 of a little laggy here but does that that's another possibility that makes
00:38:01 sense to me if it's certain patterns that I've seen if that makes sense let
00:38:08 me know if that
00:38:10 and it could also be that if they've become so corrupted that the light of
00:38:19 your pure heart is scalding to them like creates pain like when you wander out of
00:38:24 a movie theater in the eye your eyes get stabbed by the sunlight or you know too
00:38:30 much ice cream too quickly ice cream headache so it could be that your purity
00:38:37 gives them so much agony that they're screaming at you to get away so that
00:38:42 they don't feel the pain of you not having been corrupted maybe they don't
00:38:46 know it's a demon within them ie they're innocent I don't know that doesn't make
00:38:50 any sense to me don't keep people around that set a good example it could be that
00:38:56 it could be that and I just right so you never find out you couldn't save them
00:38:59 leaves you guilt-ridden hmm but if somebody's screaming at you I hate you
00:39:07 I never loved you you've discussed me and so on I mean do we really think that
00:39:11 that person can be can be saved so I don't know that that's the case they
00:39:16 don't want to feel the pain of themselves seeing there is hope when you
00:39:18 leave then hope leaves that certainly is possible that they don't want to see the
00:39:24 example like I was reading about people on a weight loss journey today and people
00:39:29 on a weight loss journey their thin friends are very encouraging their
00:39:33 overweight or obese friends are hostile and negative to them they hate people
00:39:39 that are naturally happy they are never happy what do you mean by naturally
00:39:43 happy who on earth is naturally happy I don't understand what you mean are you
00:39:51 saying happiness is not a state that we achieve through hard work and virtue
00:39:54 it's like to me is they hate people who are naturally highly muscular it's like
00:39:58 well you could have the potential for it maybe but you still got to work at it
00:40:02 right a candlelight is not diminished by sharing its flame to other candles I'm
00:40:09 sorry fortune cookie cliches are not at the level that we're discussing I'm
00:40:13 afraid
00:40:15 optimistic I don't know what that means sorry one word does not clarity make
00:40:27 just happy positive optimists
00:40:32 you mean idiots who the hell is a happy positive optimist these days happy
00:40:43 positive optimist have they blindfolded in an isolation tank so never read the
00:40:49 news Jared says that makes sense you being around an uncorrupted and
00:40:52 genuinely happy provokes pain in them but so but the question is when I saw
00:41:01 people who were more positive and happy when I was a kid I didn't hate that I
00:41:05 was encouraged by that so when you say well you being around people who are
00:41:09 going through serious difficulties or whatever you are a happy positive
00:41:14 optimist what you all right we can get to we can get back to that I'll make a
00:41:27 note of that happy positive optimist I think you may be discrediting yourself
00:41:32 around sensible people I'm not saying we shouldn't be happy but just being a
00:41:35 happy positive optimist given that the world is the way that it is that's
00:41:42 anti-empirical it's anti-empirical the world is going in a very bad direction
00:41:47 and it doesn't look like it's turning around anytime soon and it's it's getting
00:41:55 worse so I'm the happy positive optimist you know I think happy yes can you be
00:41:59 positive about some things but you know just be naturally happy and peppy and
00:42:03 positive at the moment to me tell me what you guys think it feels a little
00:42:09 anti-empirical to put it as nicely right so when I saw people who had happy
00:42:14 marriages I was very encouraged by that and I thought geez well that's that's
00:42:17 what I want out of life and that's what I'm gonna aim to get out of life and and
00:42:20 that was all great the demons can only possess people in a way that Christ says
00:42:26 is okay maybe Christ is trying to protect you Satan's minions are on a
00:42:30 short leash the leash comment is what I've heard a number of exorcist priests
00:42:33 say whoo okay they can't have their childhood innocence back and they're
00:42:39 jealous they can't have their childhood innocence back now in the Christian
00:42:47 context right in the Christian context is there not forgiveness for almost
00:42:53 everyone in the Christian context is there not forgiveness for almost
00:43:03 everyone but you have not done evil as a child this assumes that people with that
00:43:09 reaction have done evil yes if you are repentant right so there is a way for
00:43:12 them to get out of the quicksand so why do they drive you away
00:43:16 you
00:43:18 oh the optimist says I have no choice but find happiness in the little things
00:43:30 I reframe yeah I agree with that well you certainly have a choice but Jesus
00:43:35 isn't doing the work the Archangel Michael is
00:43:41 why do the corrupt people drive you away
00:43:47 the demon can get into damaged people through the crack of trauma not just
00:43:55 evil welcoming people to them Catholics say there are different levels of
00:43:58 possession the demon can get into damaged people through the crack of
00:44:02 trauma I dislike that mmm theologically more than you could possibly conceive
00:44:08 of I think that's the exact opposite of the truth
00:44:13 no the demon is in the people doing the damaging to be the victim of evil does
00:44:19 not make you susceptible to the demon I couldn't just I mean I'm no theologian of
00:44:25 course but I couldn't disagree with you more about that through the crack of
00:44:29 trauma no are you kidding me I mean did Jesus not experience any trauma with
00:44:36 betrayal and rejection and attack and persecution and crown of thorns and
00:44:40 dragon the cross and Calvary and crucifixion like no no because you're
00:44:48 saying that if you have you've been the victim of evil if you've been the victim
00:44:51 of trauma then you're susceptible to evil
00:44:57 I mean you could make the argument of course this cycle of violence and so on
00:45:01 but there's that free will choice right I mean I think that the angels got into
00:45:07 me through the crack of trauma so I don't know about the demon thing
00:45:11 Viktor Frankl not a philosopher misery loves company okay so if misery
00:45:29 loves company why did they drive you away from the quicksand
00:45:35 well bad people often raise bad kids who follow their lead yes but bad people
00:45:40 also often well can raise really really good kids like way better than the
00:45:43 average right people drive you away because your presence exposes them and
00:45:48 that's too abstract I don't know what that means that is taught I can vouch
00:45:56 well but you can find anything that's taught in in almost any religion right
00:46:01 I mean there's a lot of different versions and flavors of Christianity and
00:46:04 all of that right the crack of trauma and moral hypocrisy creates the doubt it
00:46:11 lowers the defenses and increases the chance one might allow or choose evil so
00:46:16 what you're saying though is that God punishes people for choosing evil after
00:46:21 they're in situations where evil is done to them first so people who are raised
00:46:26 better have a greater chance of being virtuous and people who are raised badly
00:46:30 go to hell because they're more susceptible to evil is that right
00:46:37 I don't I don't really follow that myself well the ACE score makes you more
00:46:46 predisposed to negative behaviors and health outcomes could that not be like
00:46:49 the demon using trauma to take over yes John I appreciate that but the ACE score
00:46:55 makes you more predisposed to negative behaviors and health outcomes only
00:46:58 because nobody talks about the negative health effects of child abuse the
00:47:04 negative health and moral effects of child abuse so it's like saying that if
00:47:14 you have parents who have I don't know a predisposition to diabetes that means
00:47:20 you're gonna get a predisposition to diabetes no not at all not at all
00:47:27 because if you know that your parents have a predisposition that you have a you
00:47:32 have a predisposition to diabetes what's your goal keep your health down keep
00:47:36 your blood sugar regulated or whatever you do get your levels checked get your
00:47:41 blood work done make sure you exercise make sure you eat well so you end up
00:47:45 healthier because right if you have a family history of heart ailments then
00:47:51 you really really make sure that
00:47:56 you you do well with your health right so adverse childhood experiences only
00:48:06 lead to negative outcomes because people don't talk about the relationship which
00:48:11 is of course why one of the first things I did was start talking about the
00:48:14 relationship between a child abuse and negative health outcomes and dysfunction
00:48:19 and so on so that people can
00:48:22 the people who drive you away want to know that something else that they know
00:48:28 is alien and different will survive and hopefully be successful enough to show
00:48:32 them another way I follow that the people who drive you away want to know
00:48:37 that something else that they know is alien and different will survive and
00:48:41 hopefully be I'm sorry I don't I don't follow that you'll have to rephrase
00:48:46 if the demon is in your heart dictating your behavior of sin then being around a
00:48:54 Christian who believes and is in God's grace will make the demon or person
00:48:57 suffer they don't want you there you're making them suffer demons are afraid of
00:49:01 God mother Mary and Christ so is it that the demon knows that he can't win
00:49:06 against the virtuous person and so the demon drives away the virtuous person
00:49:13 because it's like holy water or sunlight to the vampire it's making them suffer
00:49:18 is that right I want to just make sure I understand that right
00:49:24 they say God's will allows the devil to do his bidding we cannot know why that's
00:49:34 his will it's not philosophical yes he knows you can't win or Christ is
00:49:38 protecting you right rarely anyone admits wrongdoing in court if they can
00:49:44 get away with it right okay so let me ask you this then and maybe you've had
00:49:50 this experience maybe you've had this experience so before driving you away
00:49:56 from the quicksand there must be a luring you towards the quicksand to see
00:50:01 if you take the bait does that make sense like there's a temptation they
00:50:08 try to tempt you when you don't take the bait when you resist that then they
00:50:14 drive you away is it do I have that right the demon sees if he can pull you
00:50:18 into the quicksand if he can't then he'll drive you away but there's got to
00:50:24 be some beckoning come hither stuff first right
00:50:30 to be clear if you are possessed your actions are not considered your own
00:50:35 thereby you do not incur the sin of the demon controlling your body but you do
00:50:39 incur the sin of whatever allowed the demon to get into and control your body
00:50:42 right that that's in right like being a drunk driver you're not responsible if
00:50:48 somebody else spikes your drink or I don't know secretly injects you with
00:50:53 alcohol or something then you're not responsible for the carnage of your
00:50:56 drunk driving but if you voluntarily drink alcohol and then drive you're not
00:51:01 responsible for being disoriented and driving you're responsible for getting
00:51:04 drink and getting drunk and then driving right so you're responsible for what you
00:51:08 did to put you in the negative state but you're not responsible as directly right
00:51:13 what you do in that negative state
00:51:24 so with regards to the ACE score making more predisposed to negative
00:51:29 behaviors somebody says that makes sense these things spiral a bit of my opinion
00:51:32 also my opinion discernible people see the injustice and get angry at the
00:51:36 hypothetical behavior making it more difficult to keep a good moral standard
00:51:40 UPB is a good inoculate on this level right
00:51:48 angels and demons are two sides to the same coin now I don't know what that
00:51:54 means you you're into the DVD sounds deep but there's nothing there I think
00:51:58 there's an element of fear involved evil says you must betray God because God has
00:52:02 forsaken you and sin is the only way to salvation no evil doesn't say that sin
00:52:07 is the only way to salvation evil says that salvation is an illusion and
00:52:11 therefore pleasure should be your goal Josh says being in the quicksand is part
00:52:16 of the deception knowing that people will look at the quicksand bringing
00:52:18 attention and drawing people closer as lookie-loos
00:52:23 st. John V and E I don't know what that means Dave the greatest of all evils is
00:52:31 not to be tempted because then there are grounds for believing that the devil
00:52:34 looks upon us as his property the greatest of all evils is not to be
00:52:38 tempted what I don't understand oh it's a quote from that ten at the quote makes
00:52:46 no sense to me I think angels and demons are too abstract that's like saying
00:52:53 people have no free will I guess you weren't here when I was talking about
00:52:57 this as an analogy right let's see here death came into existence because of
00:53:06 generational sin you can't be innocent of sin yourself you can't be innocent of
00:53:11 sin yourself but if it's generational sin and you're born then you're not
00:53:14 innocent of sin because it's original sin right and also death was a reward
00:53:19 right because you get to be you get to be rejoined with God through death right
00:53:24 so death is a reward to rejoin God right
00:53:29 have you have you experienced from the people who've driven you away was there
00:53:36 a temptation that they offered you first or beforehand
00:53:43 it's saying don't tempt Satan you read the verb wrong
00:53:47 what's saying don't temptation the greatest of all evils is not to be
00:53:52 tempted I'm sorry not helping me if what if the demon is pushing you away just to
00:54:00 get more people to help there by dragging an even greater number into the
00:54:04 quicksand but it's personal Manuel it's personal the people who drove me away
00:54:09 weren't doing it in public weren't doing it in general online I'm talking
00:54:13 about sort of when I was a younger a younger man so it's not that there was
00:54:18 no there was no spectacle that was going to draw other people in
00:54:25 you asked about the initial temptation you must be tempted in order to reject
00:54:32 the temptation yes God challenges you in order to crown you Satan challenges you
00:54:36 in order to destroy you does Satan challenge you I don't think change
00:54:40 Satan rewards you without effort isn't that Satan rewards you without effort oh
00:54:45 you want to you want a great song I'll whisper it into your ear you'll become
00:54:48 rich and famous and have all the groupies and drugs and money that you
00:54:50 want and then he destroys you I don't know that Satan challenges you he
00:54:54 offices you the he offers you the unearned right just the demon I'm
00:55:00 straight underestimate his potential victim or is it more that he can't help
00:55:02 himself so he just arbitrarily tempts anyone that comes across his path no you
00:55:08 think of the demon as a groomer and the demon the demons greatest fear is what
00:55:17 what's what's I mean you can say Christ and this and that but I think the demons
00:55:20 greatest fear is impotence impotence of evil right which is why when you reject
00:55:27 temptation you get a lot of rage from people because if you reject temptation
00:55:31 then demons are impotent because they can't achieve anything themselves they
00:55:35 can only achieve things through manipulation
00:55:39 so let's see here
00:55:45 so demons can help themselves they're very good like if somebody is a sexual
00:55:54 predator and wants to target children he's taking a great risk right goes to
00:55:58 jail and if he gets caught and will probably get killed in jail in various
00:56:01 unpleasant ways so he has to be very careful about who he chooses and I think
00:56:07 it's the same thing with the demons right
00:56:14 when Jesus walked through the desert for 40 days and 40 nights Satan came to him
00:56:18 and offered to save him from suffering but Jesus kept his faith in God and made
00:56:21 it through no Satan didn't just come in to offer to save him from suffering
00:56:25 Satan offered him the whole world do I have that story right he offered him he
00:56:29 gives all the world and everything in it can be yours just worship me right and
00:56:33 that's the unearned right Jesus would end up inheriting the whole world
00:56:36 without having to earn it right the challenge is to reject the unearned yes
00:56:41 the unearned will steal your soul
00:56:45 see here there's a lot of mud in the water these days look at the media it's
00:56:50 ultimately the parents responsibility but there's so much phony virtue out
00:56:53 there makes learning virtue much more difficult yes that's right a conformity
00:56:57 with power has now become virtue and that's the exact opposite right
00:57:03 and why is it that Satan works through the woman because the woman has value
00:57:13 without effort simply through youth and fertility right I mean some effort of
00:57:16 course you got a diet or whatever but that's not really effort that's just not
00:57:19 eating right so women are born with value or grow into value as as young
00:57:25 women and men have to earn value right so the the satanic temptation for the
00:57:30 unearned generally comes in through the female right
00:57:35 spot-on stuff it's why they hate humanity so much they have no power over
00:57:39 us that we do not allow so let me ask you this because I'm thinking about this
00:57:42 sort of life in in the moment which is okay what was the temptations that were
00:57:46 offered to me that I rejected that then I got yelled at to go away oh yeah okay
00:57:58 so one guy offered me marijuana I said no one guy tried to pull me into his
00:58:07 relationship dramas and I gave him responsibility and wouldn't let him play
00:58:11 the victim and then he got angry I definitely have a better marital
00:58:18 partner than anyone I knew growing up I mean most most of the marriages that I
00:58:22 knew as a young man I have not made it like and have not made it in a terrible
00:58:27 way I mean I've known people who've end up in who I've literally known direct
00:58:34 people that I was close to who've ended up in jail over the course of breakups
00:58:38 and divorces
00:58:41 so I think there was a kind of an offer and a temptation take these drugs let me
00:58:53 play the victim and thus infect you with victimhood let me complain let me let me
00:58:59 let me oh like the short guy my friend who's short who's like I'm not dating
00:59:02 because I'm short it's like you realize that you're only here and short because
00:59:07 your ancestors who were short dated and mated which is why the shortness genes
00:59:10 have survived right the women's balding genes have not survived because men
00:59:14 didn't want to bang cue balls with lipstick so anyway but the victim right
00:59:20 I can't I can't I can't I can't be happy without the drugs I can't have a
00:59:26 relationship without playing the victim I can't take responsibility without being
00:59:29 unhappy excuses and evasions and like this this dematerializing unreality
00:59:37 where you make choices and then pretend that you're the victim of circumstances
00:59:42 right so maybe there was that was the temptation I resisted that temptation
00:59:46 and the right the the eruption and the hostility and the all right sorry I'm
00:59:54 going to see here God challenges Satan tempts we get
01:00:00 complacent yeah God definitely challenges what about angels what about
01:00:06 angels yeah ask a slightly more specific question than that happy Friday happy
01:00:12 Friday back are we accepting oculism occultism exists or is this analogy only
01:00:17 I honestly couldn't couldn't care less whatever whatever works for you it works
01:00:21 either way tempted him with contenting Christ's hunger tempted him with pride
01:00:27 approving his holiness and tempts him with the power of the world yeah it was
01:00:30 more than one temptation but it wasn't just the one woman is the man's
01:00:35 responsibility so he wants to corrupt the man from the side door but you guys
01:00:42 know one of the reasons I hate the welfare state right you guys know one of
01:00:45 the reasons that I hate the welfare state I don't know if you've ever heard
01:00:49 this before
01:00:51 so I mean obviously that's there are moral issues and so on but one of the
01:01:05 reasons I hate the welfare state is that by paying my mother the government took
01:01:12 any authority out of my hands I could have said to my mother listen I'm happy
01:01:18 to pay your bills and I certainly did pay some of her bills from time to time
01:01:21 in fact quite a few but I never got to say you've got to go to therapy you've
01:01:25 got to do X you've got to do Y you got to start doing some exercise you've got
01:01:28 to get some sunlight not hide like Gollum in the gringiest dirtiest
01:01:32 ugliest apartment known to man like you actually have to do some things in order
01:01:36 to like I had no authority over my mother because she was being paid by the
01:01:41 state so I couldn't fix her she could you know tell me to F off and there was
01:01:46 no particular consequences right? The abusers want to hate what could
01:01:52 save them because they aren't strong enough to be free. That's all no free
01:01:58 will stuff right? It's just dominoes there I don't think that right some men
01:02:02 have the power of beauty and charm I think it's just more often associated
01:02:06 with women I mean that's an excellent point and I appreciate you bringing that
01:02:08 up and that's a great correction in fact physical beauty tends to work better for
01:02:12 men even than it does for women
01:02:16 Dave says a husband can command a demon to leave his wife or kids a mother can
01:02:20 command a demon to leave a child there's a hierarchy for the lay people demons
01:02:24 respect oh that's interesting demons and narcissists can't handle
01:02:28 rejection once you reject them or their excuses they can't bear your presence
01:02:31 around them right Wow jail even I don't know anyone who went to jail due to
01:02:36 breakup quarrels what are you talking about I didn't say
01:02:40 breakup quarrels I said marital issues marital breakups except one guy who
01:02:47 murdered his two ex-girlfriends and one daughter but it was bizarre and happened
01:02:50 long after the breakup I was a friend of one of the women's friends oh no jail
01:02:54 is ridiculously common in divorces right jail or charges or accusations sexual
01:03:02 abuse in divorce allegations SAID it has its own acronym everyone is tempted when
01:03:06 you practice virtue it's easier to resist habitual virtue can strengthen
01:03:10 you just like how habitual sin leaves you weak right you can't command the
01:03:14 devil out of anyone I think they have to submit to virtue in order to get the
01:03:20 devil out of them right all right I appreciate this education guys like it's
01:03:28 really really great Jesus frequently says fear is not in the new Jesus
01:03:32 frequently says fear not fear not sorry Jesus frequently says fear not in the
01:03:37 New Testament I think a lot of demons feed on fear if you release your fear of
01:03:41 the demon and what it represents instead of pushing it away you face it head-on
01:03:45 address it and then it becomes impotent losing power over you much of what Jesus
01:03:50 taught seems to be about reducing fear and moving towards love and virtue yes
01:03:54 so anxiety is a great curse because anxiety leads to a desperation to do
01:04:01 anything to get rid of the anxiety and that's when the devil says oh well if
01:04:05 you make if you get money or you get laid or you get power then you can get
01:04:10 rid of your anxiety but it doesn't work right so then you trade in anxiety for a
01:04:15 bad conscience and you're toast right let's see here I definitely lowered my
01:04:22 standards as someone when choosing friends I have a pattern of having
01:04:26 manipulative friends when they ask me to do something for them I don't want to I
01:04:30 tend to say yes when really I want to say no because I feel it's easier to put
01:04:33 up with that person's request versus say no and face their manipulative
01:04:37 consequences now that's a family situation you're just recreating a
01:04:41 childhood situation with you couldn't say no to your parents and so you choose
01:04:45 friends you can't say no to is it better for men because they have a longer
01:04:50 window of use for their beauty I don't know if they know why they just know
01:04:53 that it is the case maybe the demons attract others thinking they can create
01:04:57 more demons by infecting them with helplessness and despair and when they
01:05:00 come across an angel they reject the angel because they feel impotent in the
01:05:03 present of uncorruptible angels right
01:05:08 hmm
01:05:13 hmm somebody says a husband can't stop possession only oppression yeah I mean I
01:05:21 don't think there would be exorcists if the husbands could command the demons to
01:05:24 leave one of the requirements of exorcism agreed to beforehand is daily
01:05:29 prayer and promising to avoid evil a priest doesn't bother trying to help you
01:05:32 if you won't help yourself and submit to virtue well I mean that's like there are
01:05:37 doctors who won't operate you only if you continue to smoke or to continue to
01:05:40 drink because you know just wreck the new like they won't give you a liver
01:05:43 transplant if you keep drinking right so so when you think of your own lives and
01:05:49 I know this is a bit of a lengthy question or maybe it's a lengthy answer
01:05:52 did you have the experience of people offering you temptation and then
01:05:59 punishing you when you refuse temptation
01:06:02 in the business world it was money people would offer me money and it's
01:06:08 happened a couple of times in the podcasting world why is our animal soul
01:06:13 evil bro mr. tangent mr. tangent
01:06:22 have you had that experience where
01:06:32 somebody tempts you to join them in whatever nefarious thing is going on and
01:06:37 can you give me an example of something like that so yeah in the business world
01:06:42 it was money it was money do this and you'll get money I was in one business
01:06:48 situation where something had been promised to employees and so I convinced
01:06:52 employees to work extra hard and so on and then some a positive business thing
01:06:57 happened and the promise was not kept to the employees I ended up paying for it
01:07:02 out of my own pocket because I was just like oh yeah you'll get lots of rewards
01:07:07 and your employees will get lots of rewards and I'm fiercely loyal to
01:07:09 employees just as I am to listeners though you guys aren't employees you're
01:07:12 actually my you're my paycheck so don't forget free domain comm slash donate or
01:07:16 if you'd like to tip here we got no tip so far tonight and I think we're working
01:07:20 through some pretty deep and important stuff so if you could tip I would I
01:07:22 would really really appreciate it don't tempt me with the evil of desperation
01:07:27 I'm gonna show my feet again just just be aware be aware yeah I knew a guy once
01:07:33 who was it was demanded that he do something in the medical field that
01:07:39 really went against his conscience and he just quit and started his own
01:07:43 business he just quit and started his own business and massive props is it a
01:07:51 case of people's evil saying you can check out anytime you like but you can
01:07:54 never leave I don't know I mean Don Henley lyrics aren't exactly illuminating
01:07:59 the deep theology of our conversation
01:08:03 exorcism is basically just like shamanism or voodoo or any other religion
01:08:07 based on magical thinking listen I I get the fedora stuff here like yeah it's so
01:08:14 primitive it's like but but let me ask you this have you ever yelled someone
01:08:22 into doing better have you ever shocked someone or surprised someone or raised
01:08:28 your voice in in passion in in enthusiasm and in emphasis and they're
01:08:33 like get shaken out of their hypnotism there and this could be right I mean
01:08:39 I've been pretty harsh with people about weight loss and and so on and it works
01:08:43 it works we'll get back to that so let's see here so no an exorcism is my life
01:08:52 has gone really really badly and there are people incredibly committed to doing
01:08:55 better and they're willing to do just about anything and I'm gonna fight them
01:08:59 with all of the bad decisions I've got I'm gonna attempt to make the case and
01:09:02 they're gonna fight against that case and maybe they can rescue me so you can
01:09:04 look at it as mystical and all of that but and I get that but there's a reason
01:09:08 why it's common across all religions because there is something about other
01:09:11 people's commitment to your virtue that can shake you out of the hypnosism of
01:09:15 evil. Somebody says I've been offered money to stay in jobs get jabs push DEI
01:09:22 etc leaving felt like a weight lifting yeah yeah liberals offering non-counseling
01:09:27 kind kind of works for many yeah yeah vacs are no job etc yeah yeah I
01:09:32 recognize that story in your book God of Atheists yeah drugs said no but it made
01:09:36 it hard to hang out oh you get this with drinking too right?
01:09:40 Maybe you'll loosen up have a drink come on. When I was young there was immense social
01:09:46 pressure from my peers to do things I didn't want to do everyone eventually
01:09:48 gave in to some degree some went further than others I was one of the last to
01:09:51 give in and tried my best to avoid situations where I'd be pressured to
01:09:54 extremes yeah well we all know this about the loose girls who then make fun
01:09:59 of the girl who hasn't slept with anyone yet oh you're just such a prude you got
01:10:02 to loosen up and relax and enjoy yourself and women love sex too and they
01:10:05 just drag them down right? Somebody says they think they've escaped the demons
01:10:14 through their dissociations you remind them that this is false as is their
01:10:17 entire dissociated world they want to stay in the safe worlds they built for
01:10:21 themselves and not come out to fight the demons they thought were gone the longer
01:10:24 they've ignored the demon the more shattering this realization becomes
01:10:27 accepting your help means accepting the necessary fight they're afraid they will
01:10:31 lose postponing the fight keeps hope alive yes back in high school Pierce
01:10:36 from the basketball team invited me to enter a car with a drunk driver to go to
01:10:39 a party said hell no I was attacked for being boring oh yeah yeah boring boring
01:10:45 yeah yeah for sure
01:10:48 are you familiar with the story of Lilith if so what's your perspective I
01:10:53 would have to read up on that I've read it but I wouldn't be able to do it any
01:10:57 kind of justice at the moment so you mean from cheers right kidding yeah so
01:11:04 dissociation evil is a blanking out of consequences right evil is a blanking
01:11:09 out of consequences I mean there are all these Democrat
01:11:14 politicians what is it in New York and they passed this law to allow pretty much
01:11:18 remove the statute of limitations for accusations of sexual misconduct in
01:11:21 order to get Trump and now they're all getting dragged down themselves right
01:11:23 Adams and Guam or one other science I had a boss in the past who offered
01:11:31 incentives if I look the other way in the business world yeah it's being evil
01:11:35 the form of thinking you're a god I don't know what that exactly would mean
01:11:44 you know they've done this experiment on four-year-olds about God right they ask
01:11:49 four-year-olds about God and they say can God do anything yes can God walk on
01:11:53 water can God make mountains float can God turn back time yes God can do
01:11:57 anything and then they say it's really really interesting they say to these
01:12:00 four-year-old kids they say can God make something that is mean good and can God
01:12:05 make something that is good become mean and what are the kids say
01:12:10 what are the kids say when the researchers ask can God make something
01:12:19 that is mean good and something that is good mean they say God can do anything
01:12:24 but can God turn good into evil and evil into good four-year-old kids yeah they
01:12:31 say no no God does not have that power to make evil good and good evil he can
01:12:36 do anything physically but he can't reshape morality
01:12:43 so even kids get you people I'm saying four-year-olds four-year-olds get this
01:12:47 like that hundred percent
01:12:50 it's being evil the form of thinking you're good no evil is dissociating from
01:12:57 the need for virtue evil is dissociating from the need for virtue and we have
01:13:05 that because we have false morals so we have oh violence is bad oh well I've got
01:13:10 to defend myself I have to be violent so I'm going to dissociate from virtue
01:13:13 because we don't have UPB so we don't understand that using violence to defend
01:13:18 yourself against attack is virtuous it is virtuous you don't have to dissociate
01:13:23 from virtue right because we have these false moral standards based upon power
01:13:27 rather than UPB so when you dissociate from
01:13:33 the need for virtue and the value virtue then you become corrupt right it's not
01:13:40 the pursuit of evil it's the avoidance of good which you don't need to pursue
01:13:44 disease right you just need to avoid health right you just need to not do
01:13:49 things right you just need to sit and eat whatever you feel like and never
01:13:52 exercise and then you'll get sick
01:13:56 demons are working towards human suicide they want to destroy us as we were made
01:14:02 in God's image right
01:14:05 you
01:14:07 Steph I really like drinking and it really improves the bond I have with
01:14:13 friends do you really find this objectionable if so is it deeper than
01:14:18 purely health reasons what bond why would you want to be
01:14:23 something other than yourself in order to have a bond with friends
01:14:29 so you become less yourself because drink your inhibitions and your
01:14:35 character are you and drink changes that so you become less of yourself it's like
01:14:41 saying well I want to see better by blurring my vision I want to see more
01:14:46 clearly by closing my eyes so you become less of who you are and you're saying
01:14:50 that people will only like me if I'm less of who I am and I only like other
01:14:53 people if they're less of who they are so you don't like them as they are you
01:14:58 like them as they're not which is drunk they're not themselves
01:15:04 do you really find this objectionable oh I love you man that is such a weasel
01:15:13 word objectionable it's not a violation of the non-aggression principle to drink
01:15:19 but there's no bond with friends your bond is the mutual self-annihilation of
01:15:24 the authentic personality right you're like a bunch of vandals smashing
01:15:29 statues saying we have that in common kids are very intuitive says someone my
01:15:33 son from a young age knew good versus bad almost naturally it was instinct oh
01:15:36 yeah oh yeah for sure what would you say to an evil person who claims that they
01:15:43 do good for the world but the fruits of their evil deeds
01:15:47 what do you mean what I say
01:15:52 that evil can turn to virtue well if an action turns to virtue then by
01:16:00 definition it's not evil it's like saying my particular habit makes me
01:16:09 healthy but the habit is unhealthy it's the opposite of health well if a habit
01:16:14 makes you healthy it's a healthy habit right if you have a habit called
01:16:17 exercise you can't say exercise is unhealthy if the habit leads to health
01:16:21 so if something leads to virtue it can't be evil right I mean that's that's
01:16:28 praxeological almost definitional it's almost tautological
01:16:33 how do you think communism is associated with demons is it a club of like-minded
01:16:45 people or is it a formation created by demons so communism is a giant abstract
01:16:54 falsehood to cloak the desire for the unearned what does communism offer you
01:16:59 oh you get to own the means of production you get to own the factory
01:17:02 guy you get to own the factory you'll get stuff for free you'll you'll be able
01:17:05 to just be a mime or you'll be able to paint vases and smoke drugs and and
01:17:09 you'll get guaranteed income and and right communism is the ultimate satanic
01:17:18 offering because it's offering you things that you haven't earned and in
01:17:23 order to get things you haven't earned great evil needs to be done
01:17:29 not only is it virtuous but one of the highest goods one can do lay down one's
01:17:35 life for another what
01:17:40 lay down one's life for another is one of the highest goods one can do what I
01:17:46 don't understand what are you talking about so an evil guy needs a heart
01:17:54 transplant and you you say take mine and you kill yourself with a note saying
01:17:59 give my heart to the evil guy and that's the greatest good you can do I mean
01:18:03 maybe I don't understand what you're saying but laying down one's life for
01:18:07 another is one of the greatest goods you can do that's total bull I mean that's
01:18:11 beyond bull ah I'll be good in a time in a situation where I must lay down my
01:18:17 life for another it's like you know what's never gonna happen you're never
01:18:19 gonna be in that situation you say the greatest good is something I will never
01:18:22 achieve no the greatest good is just being basically honest in your life as a
01:18:25 whole that's the greatest good someone's saying something false you correct them
01:18:30 something saying something corrupt you correct them you speak truth to power
01:18:33 you do basic good in the world that's the highest good you can do because you
01:18:36 can do that every single waking moment of every single day ah but I'm gonna
01:18:40 wait for a time when there's a trolley problem I'm gonna wait for a time when I
01:18:43 must lay down my life for another you know that's never gonna happen so you're
01:18:47 just posturing that's just empty useless posturing virtue is what you can do
01:18:51 every single day I'll be healthy when my health habit will be when somebody needs
01:18:56 a kidney and they phone me up and they say you're the only match and then that's
01:19:00 not gonna happen healthy is every decision you make every
01:19:04 day you're gonna get some sunlight you're gonna take some vitamins if
01:19:06 that's gonna be what's good for you are you gonna exercise are you gonna eat
01:19:09 well yeah right virtue is what you can do every day don't wait for some giant
01:19:14 extremity that's a satanic thing ah you know when you're gonna be really really
01:19:17 good when when when you're in a lifeboat you know in the middle of the ocean and
01:19:24 there's not quite enough for everyone and you sacrifice jump overboard and get
01:19:27 eaten by sharks that that's oh virtue is later virtue is in another dimension
01:19:31 virtue is is down the road virtue is in some science fiction scenario virtue is
01:19:35 in some mad cap adventure movie from hell oh virtue yeah don't worry about it
01:19:40 right now you want to you want to save up for that virtue that's just gonna
01:19:43 happen on the other side of the world in another life in another dimension in
01:19:47 situations that will never occur that's what you want to save your virtue for
01:19:50 you can only ask out the girl with three heads boy when you see that go with
01:19:55 three heads you ask her out you understand that's just ending your
01:19:57 bloodline right virtue has nothing to do with emergency scenarios virtue has
01:20:02 absolutely not because by the time you're in that emergency scenario
01:20:05 there's no virtue it's just compulsion virtue is about prevention it's not
01:20:09 about cure and anybody who tells you this is I had this thing about the
01:20:13 fucking trolley bullshit that people ramble on and on about and that's like
01:20:17 you're never gonna be in that situation it's never gonna be a real thing it's
01:20:20 never gonna be a fact so it's just saying oh well I'm gonna spend my moral
01:20:23 energies on shit that's never gonna happen and it's just a way to distract
01:20:28 you from the virtues that you can actually achieve in your life like I
01:20:31 don't know tell the truth to your friends tell the truth to you know
01:20:34 somebody who's not parenting that well go tell the truth to that you you see
01:20:37 someone who's suffering tell them about child abuse and ACEs you you see
01:20:40 somebody who's confused tell them about UPB sit down have a kind like that you
01:20:43 can do they could be honest with the people in your life no I'm gonna wait
01:20:47 for laying down my life for another
01:20:51 Dave says I'm late 40s all my drinking buddies for 20 years are not friends
01:20:56 they never were no it's a mutual addiction mutual hiding from reality you
01:21:01 plus chemicals is less you alcohol is a solution only in chemistry right boom
01:21:07 you're not yourself and you're drinking your inhibitions are lowered yeah for
01:21:10 sure
01:21:13 you
01:21:15 you were talking about using force to defend someone from evil
01:21:26 did I say that was the highest moral value I mean the fact that I used a
01:21:36 moral example I didn't say it was the highest moral value that was what
01:21:39 somebody else I was arguing against that being the highest moral value so you're
01:21:42 going to have to listen more carefully my friend
01:21:46 when I was becoming sober quitting pot I had buddies who had to get high as soon
01:21:52 as we got together I learned rapidly it was terrible I wasn't hanging out with
01:21:55 them I was hanging out with a zombie I didn't see it clearly until I was fully
01:21:58 sober oh if you can't stand your friends sober you can't stand your friends
01:22:03 because they're not friends I mean go to a party try this honestly you drink a
01:22:10 lot go to a party don't drink don't drink don't touch alcohol people look
01:22:16 like a bunch of retarded chimpanzees like it's embarrassing if you're not
01:22:20 drinking and you're at a party everybody looks like half a brain-dead idiot like
01:22:25 they just it's embarrassing they look like a bunch of retards it's just
01:22:28 terrible sorry to insult retards but like honestly if if if you can't stand
01:22:36 people sober you can't stand either them or you
01:22:40 you have to save yourself before you can save others I want to write for fortune
01:22:47 cookies it would be so good yeah just tell the truth just tell the truth you
01:22:54 can do that all the time every day I mean that's that's right and if you tell
01:22:57 if enough people tell the truth we don't end up in lifeboat scenarios big gestures
01:23:02 were my parents way of trying to excuse terrible behavior and neglect oh yeah no
01:23:06 actually virtue is a daily is a daily habit and a daily discipline greater
01:23:12 love hath no one than this to lay down one's life for one friends yeah yeah no
01:23:21 that's not I'm gonna wait till I can get a vacation on Krypton at which point
01:23:27 I'll get all the superpowers I need to save all the cats trapped on trees yeah
01:23:30 break it yeah I quit drinking and I realized that meeting my friend was an
01:23:35 excuse to drink more and dissociate he always droned on about himself and I
01:23:38 just zoned out that was the same guy who called me weak for quitting yeah yeah
01:23:43 sober at a party they won't want you there they will instinctively know you
01:23:50 can see them acting dumb yeah so if you're sober at a party the drunk idiots
01:23:55 see themselves through your eyes as drunk idiots and they feel humiliated
01:23:59 right
01:24:01 ah you're most likely lose a lot of friends when you're honest but is it
01:24:09 your loss or theirs boy the word friends is doing a whole lot of work in that
01:24:12 sentence will you lose any friends if you're honest
01:24:18 will you lose any friends if you're honest
01:24:23 will you lose one single friend if you're honest
01:24:30 that's a quote from scripture there is no greater love than this to lay down
01:24:40 your life for your friend don't necessarily agree okay so whoever's
01:24:50 putting that quote in I know that you don't necessarily agree but what's there
01:24:57 is no greater love than this to lay down your life for your friend right
01:25:07 of course you could be suicidal right but
01:25:11 what did people say about that they said it was good or virtuous this is just
01:25:19 talking about love right I mean animals will sacrifice animal parents will
01:25:24 sacrifice themselves for their offspring at times or risk themselves for their
01:25:28 offspring at time that's kind of an attachment we're talking about virtue
01:25:34 you
01:25:36 in a way you could say Robin Hood was virtuous for stealing from the rich to
01:25:41 give to the poor but maybe the greater good was to uphold property rights and
01:25:45 he violated that on a deeper level one could investigate if the property of the
01:25:48 rich was acquired voluntarily and say it's less bad for Robin to rob funds
01:25:51 that were not acquired voluntarily so Robin Hood was stealing back the
01:25:56 produce of farmers that were stolen by pig vicious aristocrats right so just
01:26:05 taking the bike back just taking the bike back my 40 year old friends would
01:26:10 get so drunk and high at holiday parties with their kids there too nice fancy
01:26:14 white-collar suburb families all wasted I would see them a few times a year
01:26:17 after I was sober it was too much the drunk guys being around 10 years old
01:26:20 couldn't be near it anymore they're not in my life
01:26:23 Covid help make the final break oh it's like you ever try to have lunch
01:26:28 around golfers like do you ever have you ever tried to do that or like a late
01:26:32 afternoon meal around golfers they're incredibly loud incredibly obnoxious and
01:26:38 drinking like fish
01:26:42 what does ACE stand for adverse childhood experience the adverse
01:26:49 childhood experience it's a way of scoring how bad your childhood was so
01:26:53 that you can judge your risk factors for various negative outcomes both health
01:26:59 and and societal and legal
01:27:03 all right so you all were tempted and when you resisted the temptation the
01:27:14 demons drove you off right so when you proved yourself to be incorruptible the
01:27:19 demons drove you away
01:27:21 yeah I played golf a couple of times in business and people were like have a
01:27:26 drink and I remember having a drink once or twice while playing golf and I'm not
01:27:29 bad at hitting the ball but I'll hitting the the golf ball but man when I when I
01:27:35 took a beer or two I just I am I can't remember the last time I've had two beers
01:27:39 when I took a beer out there I was I was terrible it was terrible at it
01:27:46 mini golf is fun though I love the vocabulary this community has yeah yeah
01:27:51 yeah absolutely
01:27:54 so the demon drives you away so that he can lure other people yes that's it so
01:28:02 there's a because we just in the dream vision that I had this morning there was
01:28:06 me and the quicksand and the boy by the side but there's a constant flow of
01:28:09 people
01:28:11 so the constant flow of people one by one they come one by one like they can't
01:28:15 see each other one by one they come if somebody's not getting in to the
01:28:19 quicksand with you if you can't take them down with you you want them to move
01:28:22 on so the next person doesn't see what's gonna happen does that make sense
01:28:28 a drink is demonic fundamentally like alcohol is demonic because it lowers
01:28:35 your inhibitions and inhibitions are the essence of virtue and humanity right
01:28:39 oh you're so stuck up you're such a prude you're so inhibited it's like yeah
01:28:44 also called also called not being an animal
01:28:49 pardon me Nagasaki dad dad sneeze so yeah because there's a constant flow of
01:28:58 people going by right and so if you're gonna resist temptation right if if
01:29:04 you're not gonna give money to the hooker the hooker needs you to move
01:29:08 along so that somebody else will give money to the hooker so maybe there's a
01:29:12 temptation you resist the temptation it's like get the fuck out of here
01:29:15 because you're in the way now does this make sense maybe that's what is
01:29:20 happening maybe it's not I just want to save you and it's like no you resist the
01:29:24 temptation get out of here because I need I need someone else who's gonna
01:29:28 succumb to that temptation to be standing where you are well you're not
01:29:33 only you bugging the hooker when she's working but you're interfering with
01:29:37 other people and also like other people who might pay the hooker but you're also
01:29:39 making the hooker look less attractive because if you're saying no to the
01:29:44 hooker you're saying no to the hooker then other people gonna be like well
01:29:46 what's wrong with the hooker maybe she's got an STD or whatever it is right I had
01:29:52 two drinks for the first time in years the other week I was wrecked can't
01:29:54 believe people are out there drinking six packs oh yeah
01:30:02 why did Jesus turn water into wine I'm kidding I'm not trying to start stuff
01:30:07 plus I hate wine right well I mean obviously the analogy of turning water
01:30:14 into wine is to take something that is common and corrupt it into something
01:30:19 that is valuable and clean right because you know alcohol in the past was a way
01:30:25 of getting hydration without the danger of cholera and other waterborne diseases
01:30:30 right because the fermentation process the alcohol the boiling or whatever the
01:30:33 process would often kill off most of the stuff so beer was a lot safer than water
01:30:37 so water into wine is turning the common person into a moral hero it's turning
01:30:41 something that's probably polluted and dangerous and common and useless to some
01:30:46 degree into a drink with nutrition and value and cleanliness and so on right so
01:30:51 wine is not like the boxed wine mom crap now wine in the past was a pure valuable
01:30:57 substance and so I don't drink because my dad drinks yeah yeah
01:31:06 and that's the parable of the loaves and fishes right so Jesus has a huge crowd
01:31:14 and there's only a small amount of loaves and fishes but they keep passing
01:31:17 it along and everyone gets nutrition like they everyone who reaches in
01:31:22 gets the loaves and fishes they pass it along and it's an infinity of loaves and
01:31:26 fishes right and that is of course that when you spread virtue you don't run out
01:31:30 right
01:31:33 that do I lose virtue by spreading virtue do you lose virtue by spreading
01:31:41 virtue no we gain security and and happiness by spreading virtue right
01:31:47 I mean I've lost some money I've lost some security I've lost some safety I've
01:31:51 lost some prominence by spreading virtue but I haven't lost happiness somebody
01:31:55 was I think it was kind of a let me see if I can find it was a kind of a bitchy
01:31:59 comment but I wasn't sure and I you know I try not to impute bitchiness where
01:32:03 there may not be bitchiness but let's see here what did he say what did he say
01:32:13 oh yes somebody wrote on my 12th November livestream Bitcoin update
01:32:23 somebody wrote how are you emotionally coping with going from millions of views
01:32:28 on your videos with loads of engagement to a paltry four comments on a video
01:32:33 nowadays now I chose not to take that as snarky
01:32:38 do you guys think it's snarky I mean it's hard to tell without the tone right
01:32:42 is that is that let me I'm gonna I'll paste it in here is that is that snarky
01:32:49 on a random note the God of atheists audiobook link comes up as a wall of
01:33:03 error text oh thanks I will take a look at that it could be that you need to
01:33:07 copy and paste it into a feed catcher
01:33:10 you would take it as snarky
01:33:17 I think the poultry is is the snarky bit right it's imposter how you emotionally
01:33:22 coping with millions of use your videos loads of engagement poultry for comments
01:33:26 on a video now you think that's snarky it certainly could be it certainly could
01:33:33 be you know you don't have to you don't have to on this is on no rumble hard not
01:33:41 to see the bitchy side so what do you think what do you think the purpose of
01:33:47 that is what do you think that is the purpose of that comment is okay that's a
01:33:53 very interesting comment I'm I'm fine with it I'm just I'm just curious I
01:33:57 think I mean I have my thoughts but I want to get what do you guys think the
01:34:01 purpose of a comment like that is because I get these comments from time
01:34:04 to time and you know whatever you used to be so big and now you're right all
01:34:09 this kind of stuff right to be so prominent and now you're just obscure
01:34:12 and nobody remembers you what do you think that is what do you think that is
01:34:18 what do you think that is to get me back on Twitter to make you feel bad
01:34:25 emotionally coping is a troll yeah self-aggrandizement humiliation put
01:34:31 someone down to try and rise themselves I think it's a bit I think it's a bit
01:34:35 knife I think it's a bit twisting the knife but do you know what the real
01:34:42 statement is there do you know what the real statement is when somebody says
01:34:48 aren't you miserable being much less prominent aren't you miserable be much
01:34:54 less quote successful aren't you miserable being much less famous
01:35:00 what are they really saying it's not about me right what is it about what are
01:35:08 they really saying
01:35:10 yeah to bribe you into getting more views on large platforms yeah people say
01:35:18 oh you make more money and it's like so what this this is really important so
01:35:23 when somebody comes I sort of say that like the rest of it isn't but when
01:35:27 people come at you with an insult like this it's a confession right it no it's
01:35:33 nothing to do with me it's nothing to do with me honestly nothing to do with me
01:35:37 what they're saying is when people insult you but their greatest fears
01:35:41 every insult is a confession hope you get this right thank you for you
01:35:48 Steph thank you very much I appreciate your support so no it's not no it's it's
01:35:53 it's not it's not projecting their own misery it's it's a revelation of what
01:36:00 they couldn't handle right so people people try to hurt you and how do they
01:36:05 do it well if they have empathy they don't try to hurt you but if they are
01:36:10 cold if they're cruel and they try to hurt you and they don't have empathy so
01:36:13 they don't know what really hurts you what do they do well what they do is
01:36:17 they tell you what would hurt them the most does that make sense so this guy
01:36:23 couldn't cope with going from millions of views to a paltry four comments on a
01:36:27 video nowadays of course that's not the biggest platform and blah blah blah blah
01:36:30 blah right so but that's not neither here nor let's say there's only four
01:36:34 videos or four comments on a video when I used to get thousands and thousands
01:36:37 and thousands of comments a day right so I mean I used to do a cozy 10 mil views
01:36:44 a month right so when he says you've fallen so far he's saying I couldn't
01:36:54 stand what's happening I couldn't handle what what you're doing like that's my
01:37:00 worst fear every insult I'm telling you every insult is a confession somebody
01:37:04 says you're ugly right well they're saying that my worst fear is to be called
01:37:08 ugly when people make fun of me for being bald they say they're saying I
01:37:12 couldn't handle it if I was bald or I'm not handling it that I am bald does that
01:37:16 make sense every insult is a confession all they're doing is telling you they're
01:37:22 just handing you a weapon they're just saying well this hey man I'm totally
01:37:25 telling you how to hurt me the most right so he's saying that a loss of
01:37:34 status is his greatest fear a loss of status is his greatest fear like when you
01:37:43 see do you see when you see insults for what they are is a confession of
01:37:47 vulnerability it's you understand it's not about you this guy is like well
01:37:52 you've just lost massive amounts of status that is my greatest greatest
01:37:58 terror the worst conceivable thing that I can think of is to lose so he looks at
01:38:08 oh my god there's only four he used to get millions and millions of views I
01:38:11 was in got four comments on a video that's the worst thing ever now so part
01:38:17 of it is an insult but when people insult you with their greatest fears
01:38:22 they're also asking for help with their fears I had an ex-girlfriend say to me
01:38:29 after I got up early to make her breakfast don't you do anything for
01:38:31 yourself right so he's like so so here's here's the two ways to read that comment
01:38:41 right how are you emotionally coping we go for millions of views on your videos
01:38:45 loads of engagement party for comments on a video nowadays haha right now that's
01:38:50 that's the surface level right a deeper level is how how are you emotionally
01:38:56 coping with going for millions of views to like a paltry four comments how are
01:39:00 you able to do it how can you survive the loss of status I can't I can't do
01:39:05 it I can't figure out how to survive a loss of status death how do you do it
01:39:09 free me from this addiction to status do you see what I mean tell me if that
01:39:16 makes makes sense it's a confession and a plea now the plea could be a trap but
01:39:22 it's a confession and a plea now let's see
01:39:30 now if I had gotten bitchy back right
01:39:43 now
01:39:46 they're telling you how the demon has emasculated them when people insult you
01:39:55 they're telling you how they lost their soul so he lost his soul or lost his
01:40:02 integrity or got corrupted by his fear of low low status does that make sense
01:40:06 his his his greatest terror is low status and he's like how how how how can
01:40:11 you survive this because if you can tell me how to survive this I can lose my own
01:40:17 fear of low status and thus become good because what is the greatest prevention
01:40:22 of virtue in the modern world what is the greatest mechanism by which virtue
01:40:29 is prevented in the modern world if you know that you know the most important
01:40:37 thing
01:40:40 shame I think that's fairly common and shame does what
01:40:48 truth shaming of being different responsibility peers
01:41:08 I'll tell you what I think
01:41:12 the greatest barrier to virtue is overcoming the fear of low status
01:41:22 because that's how they punish virtuous people is destroying status
01:41:30 right destroying status I mean that's what deep platforming is is destroying
01:41:34 status right destroying reach destroying audience income reach sorry I repeated
01:41:41 that so it's it's - if you can survive the lowering of status you can be a good
01:41:48 person if you can't survive the lowering of status you can't be a good person
01:41:52 like that's this is the deal right that's just the deal right from king of
01:41:57 the Jews to nailed on a cross that's a lowering of status right
01:42:02 Christ came here in squalor status was irrelevant no no Christ hinted at being
01:42:10 king of the Jews and the Messiah and he couldn't say it because he would have
01:42:15 been killed directly right he was born in a manger yes but he had the lineage
01:42:19 of Kings come on man this is he wasn't he wasn't a welfare kid he was he is a
01:42:24 lineage of Kings please and he had holy men at his birth site and he had gold
01:42:30 frankincense and myrrh and he had a whole star that followed his birth
01:42:34 humble birth please
01:42:37 so
01:42:43 what's all that about when people insult me but they have people in their lives
01:42:50 who have the very issue they're insulting me about when I point that out
01:42:53 it's met with outrage especially if that's related to somebody's parent
01:42:56 friend partner because they're so insults are an attack upon status right
01:43:02 so I mean what is Satan offer Jesus status right he says my kingdom is in
01:43:08 heaven my status is virtue now do you know why status the loss of status is
01:43:13 painful of course it is right I mean if it didn't work it wouldn't be used do
01:43:18 you know why the loss of status is so painful why is the loss of status so
01:43:22 painful Christ was heralded at his birth by angels yes there was a little bit of
01:43:27 that too right this humble beginning stuff is not really really true thanks
01:43:32 for the great show thank you I appreciate that for the tip if there's
01:43:35 anybody else who wants to help out I would really really appreciate that and
01:43:39 I really really appreciate you guys helping me out with this quicksand thing
01:43:42 so why is low status so painful
01:43:48 you
01:43:50 at lowest a chance of reproduction because power is a drug yeah yeah I
01:44:05 remember when deep platforming was still pretty new one of the youtubers I watched
01:44:08 was demonetized you said demonized demonetized and he made a video crying
01:44:12 and begging YouTube like they were gods yeah
01:44:17 so the reason why
01:44:25 lowering status is so painful is that like monkeys literally are addicted to
01:44:33 status so dopamine is of course a very it's a high reward drug right and if
01:44:38 they've done studies I mentioned this before I think it's bonobo monkeys when
01:44:41 bonobo monkeys go up the hierarchy they get rewarded with massive doses of
01:44:45 dopamine which make them thrilled and overjoyed which is like power junkies
01:44:48 right and when you get when they fall down in status the dopamine was
01:44:52 withdrawn and they go through literal physical withdrawal symptoms right so
01:44:55 status is a drug that comes from the animal does that make sense status is a
01:45:02 drug that comes from the animal
01:45:09 and if you can reorient your system to get joy from virtue then you will
01:45:18 inevitably have to accept a loss of status because it's always status versus
01:45:24 virtue status versus virtue status versus virtue if you can't accept the
01:45:28 loss of status you cannot become a virtuous person because you will just
01:45:33 expose that loss of that fear of the loss of status will be exposed and then
01:45:39 people will simply use that to drive you away from virtue
01:45:44 do you see what I mean
01:45:48 whatever you fear will be used to control you now the only thing that I
01:45:52 fear is corruption and immorality I mean in terms of like philosophy I mean I
01:45:57 don't like getting hit by buses either but the only thing I fear is corruption
01:46:00 and immorality but that's under my control so it can't be used to control
01:46:04 me right so fear is used to control others but if that which you fear is
01:46:08 under your control you can't be controlled by others and status is what
01:46:11 status is an opinion of other people status is the opinion can I control the
01:46:17 opinions of other people I cannot right status is the quicksand oh that's good
01:46:22 that's good James that's very good very good I can't what can I control I can
01:46:26 control my own behavior so my relationship to virtue is what's
01:46:30 important I have control over that and because because what is of value to me
01:46:34 is controlled by me I'm not susceptible to control by others and because I'm not
01:46:38 susceptible to control by others I can't be bribed or bullied into conformity so
01:46:42 I have to be de-platformed like the moment that your value is under the
01:46:49 control of other people you've crippled your free will
01:46:54 so because I knew this guy saying a paltry four comments on a video and how
01:47:07 can you how can you stand your loss of status right and 96 97% crash in
01:47:18 audience how can you and you know obviously income you can imagine right
01:47:24 so how can you stand your loss of status what's he asking for he's not insulting
01:47:30 me he's asking me how I can be good he's saying to me Steph how can I be good I
01:47:33 can't handle the loss of status I can't stand it you can
01:47:39 please tell me how please tell me how you do how do you do it I can't do it
01:47:46 how do you do it I'm trapped in my fear of the loss of status I'm trapped in the
01:47:52 monkey brain I can't be good how are you emotionally coping with your
01:47:57 loss of status just you see what I mean can you give another example please of
01:48:06 what you mean by the moment your virtue is controlled by others and you lose
01:48:08 your free will
01:48:11 well your virtue is never controlled by others so I was probably in precise
01:48:16 about that Colleen and I appreciate the question so if my value is controlled by
01:48:26 the opinions of others then when other people think of me negatively I have
01:48:31 negative value right which is why when people want to bully you they aim at
01:48:39 your reputation in the hopes that if other people look at you badly look at
01:48:44 you look at yourself badly or that it creates such a status loss that it's
01:48:48 agonizing for you which either drives you into conformity to regain your
01:48:51 status or you then flee the arena because being low status is too painful
01:48:57 right now of course if you listen to my history of philosophy series you know
01:49:03 you as a philosopher you have to accept if you're going to do any good you have
01:49:07 to accept that one of the first casualties of virtue is reputation
01:49:13 because there are very few people who are willing to pursue virtue over
01:49:17 reputation so if my value is dependent upon the contents of the minds of others
01:49:23 then people who wish to control my sense of value will simply control how I'm
01:49:28 viewed in the minds of others
01:49:31 now negative status can be dangerous so you have to keep an eye on it I'm not
01:49:37 going oh I'm completely immune to negative status and hostility and hatred
01:49:41 and it's like no that can be dangerous right so you got you you got to keep an
01:49:44 eye on it negative status can be a predator loose in the property right you
01:49:47 got it okay it makes sense right so what I got from that of course I got the
01:49:54 snarkiness and maybe it was snarky at one level but what I got from that was
01:49:57 the undertext right we are all smart enough here to go for the undertext not
01:50:06 the surface shit right so the undertext the undertext is please help me liberate
01:50:13 myself from the demon of status help me out of the demon of status give me an
01:50:21 ally give me a perspective that gets this fucking beast off my neck does that
01:50:26 make sense that's how I took it
01:50:29 Steph do you have to read these comments multiple times to see it or do you see
01:50:35 it really quickly now on just one pass no I don't I mean the first thing I was
01:50:38 like that's annoying and then I'm like no hang on wait a minute no of course
01:50:42 right I mean it's you know I got I got a lot of history of not being
01:50:46 philosophical so yes I have to burrow through a layer or two from time to time
01:50:50 usually usually okay now do you know that we had a conversation right that I
01:50:55 actually had a conversation with this guy I actually had a conversation with
01:50:59 this guy now if I'd react if I'd reacted with some bitchy comment back then he
01:51:06 would have seen that I had failed the test of status right because if he says
01:51:12 to me there's a paltry four comments and I'm like well screw you I'm fine I don't
01:51:17 care right then I if I had reacted with hostility then he would have dominated
01:51:24 me with status because he would have provoked me into aggression by pointing
01:51:27 out my low status no it wasn't a call and it was just short combo back and
01:51:30 forth in the comments
01:51:35 so I responded to his true self not his false self his false self was doing the
01:51:40 status thing I wanted to respond to his true self which is not Steph you've
01:51:45 obviously become completely low status oh my true self his true self is help me
01:51:51 help me with status right now I'm a man I have testosterone I like status of
01:51:57 course right I'm not indifference to status that was nice of you yeah I mean
01:52:03 I it's honest right the honest thing is right so what's the honest thing that I
01:52:08 would say about that what is the honest thing that I would say about that well
01:52:14 what I wrote back was I love it back to pure philosophy exclamation mark smiley
01:52:21 face right so he said how you emotionally coping we're going for
01:52:25 millions of views on your videos with loads of engagement to a paltry four
01:52:28 comments on a video nowadays actually it's seven now oh there's some of mine
01:52:32 and I said I love it back to pure philosophy right that's what I wrote
01:52:39 back I love it back to pure philosophy right I'll paste this into you so we can
01:52:49 see that right active I love it back to pure philosophy exclamation mark smiley
01:52:53 face now that's true that's true right it is true that I love what I'm doing
01:53:01 more now than I was doing before I love the politics I love the current events I
01:53:05 love the world engagement I thought that was great and powerful and wonderful and
01:53:08 an excellent and I'm glad to not be doing it anymore right wouldn't be
01:53:13 having this conversation responding to the subtext right well I'm responding to
01:53:17 the true self rather than the false self I'm responding to the person under the
01:53:20 demon rather than the demon I don't engage with the demon I bypass the
01:53:23 demon why because the demon if the demon has no power to me the demon won't have
01:53:28 power to him see if the demon provokes me the demon gains power right if I
01:53:34 react to the demon then the demon gains power whatever you feed gets stronger
01:53:38 whatever you starve gets weaker so if I if I pretend the demon doesn't exist and
01:53:42 I talk to the true self I'm lifting him out of his
01:53:48 entrapment I'm getting him out of the quicksand does it make sense
01:53:54 want to make sure I'm being clear I I think it's clear but what matters is if
01:53:58 you if you make it if it's clear for you right I've never had it in me to get
01:54:03 sparky snarky with people sometimes I don't even notice it when they do it to
01:54:06 me yeah
01:54:08 okay so how do you think he responded to me saying I love it back to pure
01:54:16 philosophy right so this was a bypass of the false self and a connection to the
01:54:21 true self
01:54:24 I find it hard to do that with people respond to their better self and
01:54:34 interests I admire you doing that would like to get better at it yeah it's not
01:54:39 always my first impulse I'll be straight up with you I'm not I don't have any
01:54:42 sort of magical floating head that is immune to the monkey brain I would not
01:54:46 have made it past the comment right I used to be a server and it was never
01:54:51 ending spiral into snarkiness yeah didn't respond I guess no he did respond
01:54:57 now how do you think he responded to me what a giant cope oh yeah well there's a
01:55:06 steady drip of copium in your veins right so do you think he responded with
01:55:09 escalated snarkiness level up the snark
01:55:14 you have to turn off adrenaline to learn to think clearly on the
01:55:21 confrontation takes practice yeah to some degree for sure
01:55:26 well I will read you his response right just to refresh right he says how you
01:55:41 coping millions of views poultry for videos I say I love it back to pure
01:55:44 philosophy he wrote back it might be worthwhile to do a video on this I'd be
01:55:49 interested to know how you've dealt with the mental and financial blow of being
01:55:53 completely ousted from the town square as a heretic it's a damn shame what
01:55:58 they've done to you your videos were superb and I especially enjoyed the
01:56:01 comment section while we can't get the comments back why haven't you uploaded
01:56:04 your old videos here on rumble
01:56:08 well you expected that
01:56:11 it's magic right I know what I'm doing I'm doing I'll read this again it might
01:56:20 be worthwhile to do a video on this I'd be interested to know how you've dealt
01:56:24 with the mental and financial blow of being completely ousted from the town
01:56:27 square as a heretic it's a damn shame what they've done to you your videos
01:56:30 were superb and I especially enjoyed the comment section while we can't get the
01:56:34 comments back why haven't you uploaded your videos here on rumble
01:56:38 right pretend the demon isn't there and the demon isn't there
01:56:49 I'm giving you like please use the superpower responsibly pretend the demon
01:56:56 isn't there and the demon isn't there talk to the true self and the true self
01:57:02 no longer sees the demon now did I get him out of the quicksand a little bit a
01:57:12 little bit right and I admired his response
01:57:19 no don't feed the trolls no not answering would have been to not feed
01:57:30 the trolls that's ridiculous sounds like a demon to me I don't know what that
01:57:36 means did you just perform an exorcism well who knows right but see what's
01:57:44 under the aggression what's under the aggression is a need for virtue
01:57:51 it really is a shame all those comments are gone oh yeah absolutely absolutely
01:57:59 absolutely now why did he why did he start off so aggressive aggressively
01:58:03 because aggression works for him it's what he was taught it's what he does
01:58:07 aggression works for him and when I respond without aggression he has to
01:58:17 change his behavior his aggression becomes obvious to him like why is he
01:58:22 provoking me to aggression he's provoking me to aggression to hide his
01:58:25 own aggression from himself
01:58:28 he still sounds like he's being an asshole when I read this no
01:58:37 your videos were superb it's a damn shame what they've done to you I'd be
01:58:41 interested to know how you handled it that's all nice that's all he said
01:58:46 he can't say I need he said I it might be worthwhile to do a video on this he's
01:58:50 like he's tentatively speaking more honestly but he would like to know how
01:58:55 to do this right
01:58:57 do you guys want to know how to do it just out of curiosity I can tell you in
01:59:07 like three minutes if you want to know how to how do you escape status how do
01:59:11 you escape the status trap yeah I mean I assume it's fairly helpful
01:59:20 you
01:59:22 it's not a personal thing it's a social thing
01:59:30 would you guys be here if I'd sold out would you guys be here if I joined X Y
01:59:39 and Z large media thing and I was being paid to say things that you knew I
01:59:48 didn't believe
01:59:50 would you tune in
01:59:55 and without getting into names we can all we can all think of a whole bunch of
02:00:10 people a whole bunch of people who have been bought and paid for
02:00:19 without getting into names because it'd be a long list I mean people have been
02:00:33 bought and paid for and that I say this with sympathy it is it a calling or is
02:00:38 it a gig right is it a calling for virtue or is it a gig for money right
02:00:43 authenticity is the metric for whom I watch
02:00:47 so you wouldn't be here would you were always the most genuine voice of reason
02:00:58 in the wild west of the internet era yeah
02:01:05 so I still care about status right I mean I said I you can't get rid of
02:01:16 caring about status because we're humans right we're animals we're biological
02:01:21 creatures and biological creatures need status so you can't get rid of status
02:01:26 this Buddhist thing of have no desires the best thing you've ever done is quit
02:01:31 politics yeah well no I mean I think it was good being in politics yeah so
02:01:43 you are always going to need status
02:01:54 so you have to shift what status means
02:02:00 you have to shift so that your status is quality not quantity
02:02:10 politics is theater no no politics is now brutality politics is attack it used
02:02:20 to be right now it's gone beyond that so
02:02:26 you understand that pursuing quantity over quality is like pursuing sleeping
02:02:34 around over marriage to a wonderful partner
02:02:43 would my wife love me if I lied for money would my wife love me would my
02:02:51 daughter love me would my friends love me would you care for me if I lied for
02:02:57 money and power and reach and numbers
02:03:10 lying for money is so passé or if only it was passé it's currently it's the
02:03:14 current thing I mean I just I know too much I know I won't tell any tales out
02:03:23 of school but I I know too much about what people are not talking about so
02:03:31 all right let me ask you this if I sold out who would be left
02:03:41 who hadn't sold out
02:03:47 if I sold out who would be left who hadn't sold out yeah definitely a few
02:03:59 people but would they have that same commitment to philosophical rigor and
02:04:03 integrity right I mean there are people who have integrity to their own belief
02:04:10 systems and have paid a heavy price for it and I respect all of that but they
02:04:14 don't have the philosophy are there any other philosophers that you know of
02:04:17 moral philosophers who haven't sold out
02:04:28 Oh
02:04:30 there's stuff Alex Jones doesn't talk about no question
02:04:37 how much I'm not trying to sort of pump my value here I mean I I get emotional
02:04:49 even thinking about it how much would it break your heart if I sold out
02:04:57 you
02:04:59 I mean it would break my heart beyond words
02:05:16 you're the best at making simple understandable logical arguments that
02:05:23 are reproducible in the minds of laymen you change so many lives and minds for
02:05:28 the better in perpetuity I mean it would honestly it would break my heart it
02:05:32 would break my family's heart it would break my friends hearts and I almost
02:05:35 completely I mean it would break your heart wouldn't it I mean I remember when
02:05:38 I learned about the some corruption in the in the objectivist circles and they
02:05:42 were just awful right it was just off it would just be awful I wouldn't there be
02:05:49 a certain amount of despair like okay if Steph can't do it how can I
02:05:57 you'd be dead to me no offense meant no I I get it I get it it would be it would
02:06:05 be awful wouldn't it and it wouldn't just be awful for me and and for you and
02:06:10 my family I think it would be awful in general for philosophy as a whole like
02:06:14 the history of philosophy as a whole
02:06:17 it would be terrible so you're just paying me to not sell out so I'm just
02:06:32 making a joke guys I know it's a very heavy topic right it's very heavy topic
02:06:36 but and obviously I've been tempted and I've I've had offers and you know it's
02:06:41 you know I mean what was it Stephen Crowder was offered what 25 million
02:06:46 dollars a year okay that's some coin Joe Rogan what was it 100 million dollars
02:06:55 please just don't please don't leave us out here with the crazy no I won't
02:07:00 and it would it would obviously make it harder for people in the future to not
02:07:10 sell out if I after everything I've gone through and everything that I've sort
02:07:15 of survived and and staggered through if I just gave up the ghost and and joined
02:07:20 the Borg or something like that or you know well this person's paying me X
02:07:23 amount of money and I can get a studio and I can get a guaranteed audience I
02:07:27 just have to not talk about XYZ ABC whatever whatever whatever right I mean
02:07:36 I've been tempted but never seriously like you know I still think about
02:07:38 Twitter from time to time and I'm like no I mean I'd rather not I'd rather do
02:07:44 nothing than the wrong thing like if I if I you know for whatever reason it
02:07:48 becomes unsustainable I'll just stop like I but I won't I won't join. I
02:07:56 personally would tune into either platforms but I joined the ones you're
02:08:00 on because you immensely benefit and improve my life your company is
02:08:02 irreplaceable thank you I've thought about what would happen if you stop
02:08:06 making shows or something happened to you I wouldn't have much left to watch
02:08:09 and nothing that makes me think this deeply. I mean this is completely
02:08:13 one-of-a-kind this is like and and it's like it's not just one-of-a-kind in
02:08:17 terms of the depth and all of that and the other but every show is new am I
02:08:23 wrong? I mean it feels new to me I've always tried to avoid repetition it
02:08:27 feels new to me it feels like every new every show is like a new dimension a new
02:08:32 exploration it feels like almost a new continent that we get to explore over an
02:08:35 hour or two right or two hours or whatever right and you reveal details of
02:08:38 what you've been offered. It was some coin and it was some it was some coin
02:08:45 and it was some some big platform so but no I can't I can't sorry
02:08:54 Steph your shows are gold. It's our shows baby it's our shows every show is
02:09:00 amazing I feel that way I feel that way. I took a long break yeah I did
02:09:08 no I've been tempted you know all you have to do to regain the good graces of
02:09:22 society is turn on your values and attack the truth. Ah so many people lie
02:09:30 for a living you know they don't need one more
02:09:34 no I don't want to talk about what people aren't talking about I know that
02:09:40 that's you know may sound like a cop-out but I do you know one thing I learned
02:09:44 pretty early on in the business world is you have to know you have to be able to
02:09:46 keep your vault you have to keep your vault
02:09:50 the shows are getting better and better deeper more connection more real-time
02:09:58 yeah it's a collective endeavor I may be the meat puppet but the voice box but
02:10:04 it's a it's a Borg brain that's doing all of this right like we're all
02:10:07 sparking off each other and it's a it's a collective effort even most of the
02:10:15 good pastors are full of vitriol so pure-minded people who stick to their
02:10:18 morals and actually say it out loud yeah
02:10:23 I couldn't like I just I I couldn't do that to the future I couldn't do that to
02:10:35 philosophy I couldn't do that to you I mean I couldn't I mean you guys have
02:10:41 supported me you've listened you've shared you've obviously taken some
02:10:44 bullets and some discomfort if not more than some discomfort for philosophy as
02:10:48 a whole but I couldn't I couldn't I couldn't
02:10:57 oh there's no free will no I just I know what the stakes are and the good thing
02:11:02 about having a 500 year business plan is you're not afraid of deferring
02:11:04 gratification you are consistent but not repetitive yeah that's that's fair to
02:11:09 say it's like Queen man lots of different styles of music but almost all
02:11:16 consistently pretty pretty damn good pretty damn good
02:11:20 I wish I still had those playlists from YouTube they intentionally got rid of a
02:11:27 man teaching adults how to heal from family abuse yeah I mean it wasn't
02:11:31 personal I was just in the way of power and I don't know if YouTube has kept it
02:11:36 on a backup somewhere I don't know
02:11:39 I don't know
02:11:45 you're 100% right says John there's nothing like this anywhere to the extent
02:11:49 trying to find this depth and people I can speak to in normie land is
02:11:53 challenging and I find it frustrating how shallow most interactions and
02:11:56 conversations are at times it's like speaking to a different species in an
02:12:00 incomprehensible language I've had some interesting meetings of late through
02:12:04 where people are open to these ideas so I have some hope yeah I appreciate that
02:12:13 all right do you think Kevin Samuels was sabotaged he was hitting on honesty in
02:12:19 cause well he was pretty heavily attacked right he was pretty heavily
02:12:25 attacked and I think he was going through a lot of stress as a result of
02:12:28 those attacks and that happens to a lot of the you know brilliant black public
02:12:35 figures I mean obviously not just the blacks but in particular I think it's
02:12:38 underspoken about how much Kevin Samuels and others get attacked
02:12:43 he drank red bull like water was he vaxxed I don't know
02:12:49 all right any last tips comments thank you guys for a wonderful evening of
02:12:55 course of great great philosophy
02:12:59 yeah he was a great guy but I wish that he had had maybe he did better debates
02:13:06 or more debates but I wish he'd had slightly more competent opponents he
02:13:13 really threw a wrench in the feminisms yeah well until we can get the ladies
02:13:18 back from the state a lot of it is just talk a lot of it's just words I was
02:13:23 trying to talk someone out of cashing in a winning lottery ticket right it's
02:13:26 just probably not gonna work out too well just a lot of words right
02:13:33 all right well thanks everyone so much for a great great evening I really
02:13:44 really appreciate it and we will see you Sunday at 11 a.m. at 11 a.m. and thank
02:13:54 you for the tip Josh I really really appreciate it thanks for liking
02:13:57 subscribing and sharing y'all I appreciate that have yourselves a
02:14:01 gorgeous beautiful evening even without my dulcet tones and shiny ostrich egg
02:14:06 head and we'll speak to you guys at 11 thanks for all your support if you're
02:14:09 listening to this yeah the best part of the show is never walk away without
02:14:12 having learned something new as is the case for me and hopefully my unconscious
02:14:16 will give up another great analogy for a Sunday have yourselves a great great
02:14:20 evening and Saturday happy Thanksgiving belated to our American friends lots of
02:14:26 love I'll talk to you soon

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