00:00 Sir, if a person is sentenced to death but the verdict is still in effect till the election day,
00:12 then is he not eligible to participate in the election?
00:15 Last time in your program, I said that if the person is sentenced to death,
00:24 then there will be a continuation of trial and in that case it will be understood that the case is pending trial.
00:31 But at that time, one thing was not in my mind.
00:36 So, the matter is a little different because the Speaker's National Assembly had issued a reference
00:46 according to the Election Commission of Pakistan.
00:48 After that, the Election Commission had declared him ineligible on the Tosha Khana issue.
00:54 And after that, they sent this matter to the court,
01:01 that the court should look at it, the Military Court, and then this decision was made.
01:05 Therefore, if this punishment is pending, then the decision of the Election Commission,
01:10 which it stands in its place, is not pending.
01:12 I will expand on this, because at that time, I did not have all the context and questions in my mind.
01:21 So, today, through your program, I am making it absolutely clear that
01:26 if a sentence is suspended on the Military side,
01:30 then before that, because he is ineligible, and no one has satisfied him in court,
01:42 or suspended him, then he should stay independently against him.
01:48 This conviction on the Military side does not have a direct relationship with him.
01:53 So, you are saying that if the Islamabad High Court had suspended the decision,
02:00 with the punishment, then he would have been ineligible,
02:03 because the Election Commission of Pakistan has suspended him,
02:05 and no court has satisfied him. Is that what you are saying?
02:08 Yes, because I am telling you, the punishment that the Election Commission has issued
02:11 is to suspend his own jurisdiction.
02:14 But the Military case that they have sent to the Military Court,
02:19 because there is a separate decision in that Military case,
02:23 and that decision has been suspended,
02:25 So, the Election Commission of Pakistan has the right to disqualify any politician,
02:30 and if no court has given a verdict against him,
02:32 so that politician will stand disqualified.
02:36 Yes, that is their independent power.
02:39 If they think that a person has taken action in a wrong way,
02:43 then they can disqualify him. That is their independent power.
02:48 If it is so, then the PTI must have challenged him.
02:54 You are saying that they should not have challenged him.
02:55 Why would they not have challenged him, if it was so clear?
02:57 Yes, they should have done it, because I did not follow everything medically,
03:02 but now I remember in retrospect,
03:05 how it happened, they should have challenged him separately.
03:09 Okay, and one last thing,
03:12 the Election Commission of Pakistan,
03:14 in your opinion, it is practically impossible to contest Imran Khan's election,
03:22 because the verdict is in place,
03:23 and the appeal against the verdict has not been made,
03:25 even if the appeal is made tomorrow, which the PTI has not expressed any intention of,
03:27 it is still a matter of peace,
03:28 practically, you think it is almost impossible for him to be eligible to contest the election.
03:31 Isn't it?
03:32 Yes, for now, it seems difficult,
03:34 but if they challenge him and take an order quickly,
03:38 then it is a different matter.
03:39 then the situation can change.
03:41 And lastly, tell us,
03:44 tomorrow the Election Commission of Pakistan has to give a verdict on his election,
03:48 if they give a verdict in favour of the PTI, then the matter is over,
03:51 if they do not give a verdict in favour of the PTI,
03:53 then what does it mean?
03:54 Does it mean that only the ballot will be used,
03:56 or does it mean that any election sign will be used,
03:58 and all the candidates will fight freely?
04:01 I do not think that the political party will be finished with this,
04:06 because even if the special representatives are not there,
04:10 they already have a chairman,
04:12 but if they also get an order about an election,
04:17 that the election was not correct,
04:19 then the ballot will be used,
04:22 I think this will be too much,
04:24 because the first thing is that they have not received the ballot yet,
04:29 they have to receive the ballot sign as well,
04:32 but now,
04:34 the decision of the Election Commission,
04:37 till the time it is not received,
04:39 you think that no party should be deprived of the election sign,
04:41 it would be unfair to the PTI, if they do this,
04:43 yes, in my personal opinion,
04:45 the sign that has been allotted to someone,
04:48 with whom he has fought elections before,
04:50 as far as possible,
04:52 he should have it,
04:54 but there have been some ups and downs in the past,
04:57 that the PTI's conduct was such that,
05:02 they also tried to show their opponents,
05:07 that they are just acting,
05:09 that if you do as you do,
05:11 then maybe the PTI will have to face the same,
05:14 and you say that this should not happen,
05:16 thank you very much, Irfan Qadisi.
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