00:00 They're from different sides of politics and from very different eras.
00:06 Many of you weren't born when I stepped down.
00:09 But they've both shared the same challenge, trying to build enough homes for Sydney's
00:14 growing population.
00:15 The only way we can bring down prices is to get more apartments on the market.
00:21 Last year when this debate was...
00:22 What about the Great Australian Dream?
00:24 Well it's been overtaken by reality.
00:27 The former Liberal Premier backs the government's plans to zone for apartments around new and
00:32 existing transport lines.
00:33 It makes complete, complete sense.
00:36 But the father of seven says suburbia as we know it must survive.
00:41 So people have a backyard and a front yard for their kids to run around.
00:45 And he says his successor should be cut some slack after admitting this year's housing
00:50 targets won't be met.
00:51 It takes time to ramp up.
00:53 I don't think they should be criticised for that.
00:56 Some of the loudest criticisms are coming from councils, some of them with Labor mayors.
01:01 And they're just as worried about plans to fast track duplexes, terraces and semis in
01:05 low density areas.
01:07 Those relatively modest changes are lawful and legal in every other city across Australia
01:13 and most parts of the world.
01:15 No one's talking about our local schools, no one's talking about our local parks, our
01:19 swimming pools, our trees.
01:22 No one's talking about the roads and the infrastructure that's needed.
01:25 I think the mayors are out of touch with their own public opinion.
01:29 Well Bob Carr was also the Premier who said that Sydney was full.
01:32 So I'm not going to take lessons from Bob Carr when it comes to planning.
01:35 Almost 20 years since he left office and Sydney's growing pains have only gotten worse.
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