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After heavy rainfall caused severe waterlogging in several parts of Delhi-NCR, a 4.4 magnitude earthquake with its epicentre in Haryana's Jhajjar hit the national capital on Thursday.

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00:01Good evening and welcome, ladies and gentlemen, you're watching The Five Live.
00:04Today we are going to talk about Delhi and NCR.
00:07So in the past 24 hours, what we have seen, whether it's national capital and especially the Gurugram city.
00:13We've seen heavy rainfall that happened last evening.
00:16In turn, flooded roads, underpass where people had to wade through knee-deep water.
00:21And just when we were coming out of that, a double whammy.
00:26A sudden 4.4 magnitude earthquake jolted the city and the NCR region early this morning.
00:33The twin shocks, basically exposing not just infrastructure issues, but the kind of arrangements that we have, especially after rainfall.
00:41Whether it's drainage systems, whether it's the seismic safety, and considering that we still come under zone 4, it's a high-risk earthquake zone.
00:49But an important question, whether it's Delhi, Gurugram specifically, what is happening?
00:56Why are our systems overstretched?
00:58Old buildings are vulnerable.
01:00We are talking about people safety and security.
01:03First, let's begin with the headlines.
01:08It's the biggest interview amid CM face change in Aataka.
01:11Sidharamaya's big message, I will stay chief minister for five years, denies fund crunch for the guarantees.
01:17So, that I am going to complete five years' term.
01:23I will be the chief minister for five years.
01:28Thag Neta, shameful, divisive twist to the assault.
01:32Remember the Maharashtra slapstick politics by the sitting MLA?
01:35Okay, now he's blaming South Indian contractors.
01:40Says, South Indians cannot give good food.
01:43Would rather have a Marathi-speaking handling.
01:46And why can't South Indians manage it?
01:48He says, because they are running our dance bars in Maharashtra.
01:52How will they serve us food?
01:54What's happening meanwhile in the Mahavikas Agaadi, Udav Sena are set to dump the Congress and Sharad Pawaar's NCPs.
02:15Is that really now the next plan?
02:17And the reason is, because there's speculation.
02:19Thakere brothers may unite and dump the Agaadi ahead of BMC elections.
02:24The Thakere tie-up for BMC upcoming civic polls can lead to a huge showdown.
02:29It's the emergency era for Tharoor.
02:34Yet again, it's the clock ticking for Thirvanandpuram MP.
02:37Tharoor attacks the Congress party over emergency era.
02:40Says emergency eroded freedom.
02:42That this, today's India, is not the India of 1975.
02:47We are more prosperous.
02:49Congress MP takes a parrot jibe at Tharoor.
02:53And Madhikam Tagore says, is the bird becoming a parrot now?
02:59A journalist assaulted under MDMK as the chief's watch, Stalin ally, beats up a journalist at an event.
03:09The journalist was allegedly assaulted for filming the empty part of the MDMK event.
03:23So in the past 24 hours, what have we seen?
03:26And I want to take you through the images that have come in from Gurugram.
03:29For example, a financial technological hub.
03:32But the residents are forced to drive through waterlogged streets.
03:36Trucks are stuck.
03:38Delhi also faced the rainfall.
03:40Now, some of the areas did face waterlogging as well.
03:44But basically, Delhi NCR region and including Noida, like I said, also faced a double whammy.
03:49The earthquake tremors in the morning.
03:50Look at these visuals on your screen.
03:53Different parts of Delhi, Gurugram, Noida as well.
03:57Some say that Delhi appears to be better than before.
04:00But a political showdown has erupted on that as well.
04:03And we'll take you one by one on this double whammy that Delhi NCR faced.
04:07If you go out, you face rainfall, waterlogging and you have to wade through knee-deep water.
04:13If you're inside, you have to brace yourself for the earthquake tremors.
04:17Delhi NCR has also noticed so much in the conditions for waterlogging.
04:29Then the phase of Delhi was there.
04:31It was a trend of the algunas in the mountains in the mountains.
04:34This was a trend.
04:36But this time, Delhi NCR did not see it.
04:38This time, ITO was smooth.
04:39The area was smooth.
04:43and we will be better than we can do it.
04:46Where we can also see water logins,
04:49those things like this work are a little long run.
04:51So that we can also make it okay.
04:53And in the next fall there will be better
04:55the city of Delhi can be.
04:56mainly, here I come to reach,
04:58I think it will be about 7 hours.
05:02This was the time of the earthquake.
05:05This was the traffic jam.
05:08In Delhi, the past 5 months,
05:11The Met Department has issued an orange alert for Delhi
05:41and red alert for the larger NCR regions,
05:44but we're looking at a steady downpour since morning today.
05:47In fact, the downpour is also exposing the promises made by the Delhi government newly formed
05:54because in a little bit of downpour now you will see that cracks,
05:58potholes have begun to develop on major roads, major highways within the Delhi region.
06:06We are at ITO and of course there will be slow moving traffic that you will notice
06:11throughout the region this morning because of the steady downpour that we are witnessing today.
06:18Of course, an orange alert has been issued for Delhi.
06:22The advisory is to leave early, leave on time so that you can reach your destination.
06:29Of course, there are no roads that are currently choked or blocked.
06:32Even the Minto Bridge that was often a point of controversy for the Delhi governments before
06:38has been cleared off by the newly formed BJP government in Delhi
06:42and remains to be seen whether the rain actually ends up exposing more of the civic problems
06:49that the Delhi government is now on a steadfast path to solve for the citizens of Delhi.
06:55With Rojmišra, Milan Sharmah, Praud India today.
06:58इस वक्त हम गुर्गा में राजीव चौक के पास मौजूद है जहां पर ये अंडर पास है आप ये देखिए अंडर पास पूरी तरीके से पानी से लबालब भरा है सिर्फ उपर के अगर हम देखे तो एक दो तीन चार चार सीडियों के बाद ये पूरी तरीके से आप नीच
07:28नीचे तक पानी भरा हुआ है यानि इसमें अगर गलती से कोई उतर जाए या गिर जाए तो अगर उसे तैरना ना आता हो तो इसमें से बचना मुश्किल है क्योंकि यहां पर पूरी तरीके से पानी भरा है अब अगर हम उपर की सड़क दिखाए तो आप अगर देखेंग
07:58नजर आएगा जिसकी वजह से गाडियों की रफ्तार यहां पर कम हुई है और इस वजह से लोग बच-बच के अपनी गाडियों को ले करके निकल रहे है क्योंकि यहां पर ठीक ठाक पानी कठा है हलां कि ये कंडिशन तब है जबकि बारिष काफी हल्की हो गई है और पिछ
08:28on your screen, look at that. A truck
08:29that fell in a caved-in
08:32road. This is Gurugram in
08:34Haryana. Now, Gurugram, remember,
08:36is seen one of the biggest cosmopolitan
08:37cities. Barely days later
08:40since I've been talking about what's unfolding
08:42in Maharashtra, for example, a political
08:43showdown while real issues are being
08:45ignored. But what about the Rajdhani
08:48Delhi, the capital city of the country
08:50and its adjacent cities as well?
08:52Look at that. Again, Gurugram
08:54and this is Mayur Vihar now.
08:55Imagine driving through these lanes,
08:57most likely returning home because the rainfall
08:59started at about 6.37pm
09:01and to be stuck in a water like
09:03this. And if you have family
09:05members, your colleagues with you, how
09:07do you even manage to get out?
09:09There are risks of ill-execution.
09:12This is Bharat Mandapam. This is
09:13the pride area, so to say,
09:15of the national capital Delhi. While the road
09:17appears to be clear and you can see some
09:19machines have been placed as well that
09:21removes additional extra water from the
09:23streets. Work is being done as
09:25well. One can see that. But it's also
09:27reflective of a system that should have
09:29been in place already. You should not have
09:32waterlogging barely with few hours of
09:35rainfall in monsoon season. As we look at
09:38more and more developments that are
09:39coming in, remember there are memes that
09:42are circulating on social media as well.
09:44This is again Dholakunga, one of the big intersections
09:47of national capital. Delhi connects
09:49different paths, not just of Delhi
09:51but other enjoying cities as well.
09:53Look at the waterlogging here.
09:55It's risking the life of people
09:57as much. But the focus
09:59clearly yesterday evening was
10:00Gurugram. Not the first time for the city
10:03in Haryana, but the kind of visuals
10:05that have been coming in from different areas.
10:07Regular complaints
10:08by the residents as well.
10:11Some of these areas, remember,
10:12have the most expensive real estate.
10:15And yet, the roads outside, look at that.
10:18A couple has to walk through a knee-deep water.
10:21You just don't know if there's an open
10:23pothole around you.
10:25What are the politicians, the bureaucrats
10:27are doing about it?
10:29We are paying heavy taxes.
10:30We are ensuring to be good citizens.
10:33And yet, this is what we are getting
10:35in return. Something to think about.
10:38But if you go out,
10:39you face this.
10:40You think you're safe inside.
10:43And then this morning,
10:44strong earthquake tremors
10:46were felt one and all
10:47by people in Delhi NCR.
10:49The tremors hit at 9am,
10:51specifically, lasted barely
10:52for about a few seconds.
10:54According to the National Centre
10:55for Seismology,
10:57it was 4.4 magnitude earthquake
10:59that hit Haryana's Jajjar.
11:01And because the epicentre
11:02was so close,
11:03that was the reason that
11:04parts of Delhi NCR,
11:05despite 4.4 on the Richter scale,
11:07managed to feel strong tremors.
11:08It's part of the NCR region,
11:10located nearly 60 kilometers
11:11from Delhi.
11:13Now, why again?
11:14If you would have noticed,
11:15and if you're a resident of Delhi,
11:16in the past few years,
11:17we've faced tremors regularly.
11:21And the reason is,
11:22Delhi is prone to earthquakes
11:23and falls in zone 4
11:24of the seismic active zone
11:26of the country.
11:27It's the second highest zone.
11:29Now, this was a shallow quake,
11:30so to say,
11:31did not cause any damage.
11:32Thankfully,
11:33we have not had any reports
11:34of casualties as well.
11:35But Delhi has not recorded
11:37an earthquake,
11:38even though above magnitude 5
11:39in the last 10 years.
11:41And thank God for that.
11:42But it reminds us
11:44the risk that is here involved.
11:46Some of the visuals
11:46that came in this morning
11:48with regard to the tremors
11:49felt for a few seconds.
11:50I was feeling
12:20so of course i do not intend to sound alarming at all but it's important to understand that even a
12:474.4 on the richter scale managed to feel as such a strong tremor the reason is the national capital
12:52delhi and the ncr region are prone to earthquakes and because it falls in the seismic zone 4. this
12:57is the fourth highest risk category what does it mean it's near active fault lines like delhi
13:04muradabad delhi haridwar fault systems as that is called it's also in collision zone of the indian
13:11and eurasian plates it's a high tectonic stress that is felt and that is why there have been
13:17some of these tremors that we have felt even though not a massive earthquake look at the yamuna flood
13:22plains it's the soft soil that sometimes according to experts amplifies tremors as well raising a
13:29structural risk and therefore urban development will also as much have to be very cautious
13:35especially in delhi ncr region you must know about not just delhi but what are these earthquake zones
13:41across india and that's why we have prepared this graphic for you there's a zone 2 which is called a
13:45low risk area what are the states in these are zone 2 karnataka tamil nad kerala and madhya pradesh as
13:52well then comes in a zone 3 moderate risk mumbai pune states like andhra pradesh and udisha then comes
14:00in a zone 4 these are high risk this is where delhi jammu and kashmir which has also faced massive
14:07earthquakes in the past panjab as well uttar pradesh and bihar come in that plate and then there is zone 5 this
14:15is called very high risk areas you must have guessed it assam nagaland manipur arunachal pradesh
14:22the northeastern belt but also gujarat specifically gujarat's kach and there was reason when we saw the
14:28earthquake in bhuj and the kind of impact that it had so be cautious be safe of course there are
14:35constant drills that are being done as well but it's important to understand the belt in which india comes
14:40in but amid all of this remember like we talk about double whammy i just want to take you back
14:46to the issue of civic infrastructure not natural disasters but when it comes to for example the rain
14:52mayhem the water logging a delhi resident is known to pay about 40 000 crore rupees in total to the
15:01government what is happening then to our tax when it comes to civic infrastructure and development if
15:07income tax is about 47 000 crore rupees and i'm quoting from the 22 23 data so that was when arvind
15:13kejriwal government was in place nevertheless to help us understand the numbers property tax around
15:182 000 crore rupees this was uh financial year 23 24 there's a motor vehicle tax about 2 000 crore rupees
15:26this was financial year 24 25 as of february so we have tried to bring out data as much as possible
15:32which was the latest unconfirmed then comes in gst and vat in total everything about 40 000 crore rupees
15:39consumers and businesses considering it's delhi and ncr cosmopolitan business tech hubs again about 40
15:47000 crore rupees i'm quoting for 2025 24 data this is the latest that i am trying to bring to the viewer
15:54and to the administration as well because people are beginning to ask we have been good residents and
16:00citizens we are putting out these stacks as much to the government what are we getting in return
16:07all right let's move on now from the national capital delhi to the state of gujarat there's
16:12still grief remember the bridge collapse that happened barely about a few days ago and 16 innocent lives
16:19have now been confirmed dead india today gets you a reality check of bridges across gujarat especially
16:26after the morbi bridge collapse then this collapse happens of the bridge in badodara and in 24 hours 16
16:33lives lost including children amid allegations of negligence india today traveled across the street
16:39tracking the status update of the bridges we found alarming situations surat to amreli bridges have fallen
16:47in disrepair in surat look at that that's what our colleagues found the bridge over the taapi river is
16:53severely damaged a seven foot wide iron plate was installed for years as a temporary fix thousands of
17:00vehicles including heavy vehicles cross daily on this bridge but the plate bounces causing fear and
17:06sometimes accident as well what are the experts saying about it now despite the complaints national
17:11highway authority hasn't made a permanent repair that should come in as well even gujarat's education
17:16minister visited a month ago the iron plate we were told was replaced but much more needs to be done
17:22and there are residents who fear if an accident is imminent across the amreli belt as well the reality
17:28also is our stark 70 year old shetruji river bridge was built for small vehicles but there's heavy
17:34traffic still that is allowed on this it's dilapidated look at the situation the condition of the bridge
17:40drivers fear if the vibrations increase more than usual it may collapse india today recorded broken railings
17:49makeshift bars on the bridge this is basic public infrastructure that the administration of gujarat
17:55needs to look at this bridge
18:25so you will go straight to the ground.
18:27This is the pipe of the floor,
18:29it is cut in such a way.
18:32And this plate,
18:33we will show you the plate
18:35which is already 1 feet,
18:39now it's 7 feet.
18:42The plate of the plate from this 7 feet,
18:45the small or big part,
18:48all from this one.
18:50This is very much bigger.
18:52It is very difficult for me, because when you leave it, it will jump.
18:56You can see that the plate is on the plate.
18:59The plate is jumping along with it.
19:01So, when you are walking on the highway,
19:04and suddenly the vehicle is jumping, you will feel fear.
19:08So, you will see that the plate of the sea is running over the bridge.
19:13This bridge is very full.
19:15It is the bridge of my life before me.
19:18It is also very bad.
19:20It is also very difficult for me.
19:22It is a bridge.
19:24There is a bridge there.
19:26There is a place where there is no knowledge.
19:30So, India today consistently is doing these safety checks,
19:34and I must add here, not just in the state of Gujarat.
19:37But what are the safety lapses that were flagged off in 2022, for example?
19:42The condition of the bridge, and I am talking about the bridge that collapsed.
19:45The condition of the bridge is very serious.
19:48There are vibrations more than usual in pillars that has increased over the years.
19:53Residents had already mentioned that stability report of the bridge should be issued.
19:58That there should not be loss of life in future.
20:01I am in fact quoting from a Panchayat member letter to the Vadodara DC.
20:06Local administration was informed by alert residents.
20:1016 lives were lost.
20:11And remember the visual of the mother who managed to save herself,
20:15but was wailing, requesting for help while she watched her little child drown.
20:21Who will be answerable and accountable to these innocent families who lost their loved ones?
20:26Something to think about.
20:27And can we afford to really have another bridge collapse in a country that's trying to become a world power?
20:34Let me now take you from Gujarat to Jammu Kashmir.
20:39What has unfolded in Jammu Kashmir in the past few days is very interesting.
20:43One of the big hill stations or tourist destinations is climate change impacting our hill regions too.
20:50Kashmir Valley is reporting a heat wave and how this time?
20:53At this year's Amarnath Yatra, which began on the 3rd of July under tied security arrangements,
20:58devotees are reporting that shivling appears to be smaller than ever in 2025.
21:02Is global warming to blame or something else?
21:05The naturally formed ice shivling of Baba Barfani, an iconic symbol of Lord Shiva,
21:10appears to be melting faster than ever before.
21:12India Today's reporter, my colleague Jitendra Bahadur Singh, is currently on the yatra.
21:17He undertook the yatra with the first batch of pilgrims and noticed a comparison, a stark contrast,
21:22compared to previous visits in 2018 and 2022.
21:25Back then the shivling stood tall at nearly 12 to 15 feet.
21:29This year, he says only about one and a half to two foot formation was visible
21:34and that appeared to start to melt already to a certain extent.
21:38Now there is intense heat even in Kashmir Valley, where people actually throng because it is a cold station.
21:45Particularly around Srinagar, where the situation appears to be worsening with the melting of snow and ice.
21:51Dust clouds have been reported from the yatra.
21:53According to weather experts and local officials, rising temperature, lack of snowfall in recent years
21:59have significantly reduced ice retention across the years.
22:02Nevertheless, amid all of this, remember, because the cave of course still stands, the shivling still stands,
22:07the excitement and enthusiasm for the pilgrims is still high.
22:11Batches of pilgrims with the chanting of Harar Mahadev and Bambam Bhole are heading and are on the trek toward the Amarnath Key.
22:19And our colleagues on the ground constantly putting out these reports as well and will give you updates as well.
22:27Now moving on from that to the state of Bihar.
22:31It is a major relief for the election commission from the Supreme Court.
22:34The revision of the electoral rolls will continue after the top court did not give any stay in the matter.
22:40That's the big news that's coming in from the court.
22:42The court urged the poll body to consider Aadhaar and voter ID as a valid document.
22:47But the top court asked the election panel to inform people for the reason of removing their names from the electoral roll.
22:54This is important.
22:55The court also told the election body it does not have the right to decide the citizenship of people
23:00and should not enter the domain of home ministry.
23:04The court has questioned if the process could be completed within three months,
23:08those whose names are being excluded will be given a chance for hearing.
23:12The poll body has assured none of the names would be removed without proper reasoning.
23:16During the proceeding, the Supreme Court acknowledged that there was practicality behind the move
23:21but at the same time questioned the timing of the decision considering elections are approaching.
23:26Even the petitioner have urged the election commission to include even Russian card as a ballot proof
23:31and that it should be considered.
23:33After listening to both parties, the Supreme Court has a notice of the election commission.
23:39It will be the next 28th July.
23:42And it was the third unit of the July ma
23:52and that is the option.
23:55So remember there's been a concern because in Bihar there was this exercise that already
24:18became a political showdown, especially electoral roles that need to be possibly revised.
24:24How will the court intervene on this?
24:26And right now there hasn't been a clear order, but what did the court hear today in the afternoon
24:31and what did the court say?
24:33India Today's legal correspondent Anisha Mathur joins me.
24:36Anisha, let's take three key takeaways of what the top court said because eventually it
24:41will be about, can Aadhaar be our top identity card when it comes to whether citizenship or
24:47any document you're on?
24:48Well, see Pooja, if you look at the key takeaways from today's hearing, these are specific to
24:56the SIR exercise itself.
24:58First, that can the election commission go into the question of citizenship when it comes
25:04to voter verification?
25:04Second, can this entire exercise be delinked from the upcoming Bihar election, especially
25:12since the timeline that is required to give a due process, ensure hearing, ensure objections,
25:20ensure that the paperwork and any, if somebody is disenfranchised, then they have their appeal
25:28process.
25:28All of that has been questioned by the court.
25:32Thirdly, what the issue has come up is of what exactly is proof of identity and proof
25:38of citizenship and residence in India.
25:41The Supreme Court, in fact, made a very pointed comment that most people in this country may
25:46not have birth records or matriculation certificates.
25:50In fact, one of the judges pointed out that I'm not sure if I have my birth certificate either.
25:54So, the question really comes in is when we are talking about verification, when we are
25:59talking about since the EC's initial argument and the initial notification said that they're
26:05trying to ensure that illegal immigrants, foreign illegal immigrants are not included illegally
26:12in the voter list.
26:15What exactly constitutes citizenship, residence and identity?
26:19The court, in fact, pointing out that most of the documents in your 11 document list are
26:23not, in fact, proof of identity or proof of citizenship.
26:28They're simply proof of residence, such as a property paper or a rental agreement, etc.
26:35So, court is asking these very pointed questions about how do you define citizenship and identity
26:40in the country?
26:41When Aadhaar is a proof of identity, particularly with biometrics and connected to multiple government
26:47schemes and access to schemes, then how exactly are you saying that we will not accept it in
26:53this voter verification?
26:55Additionally, court asking why not include ration card and voter card, both of which are documents
27:01issued by the government after verification.
27:04Why aren't those being used for this SIR process?
27:08A lot of questions have been asked effectively by the court today, Pooja, and we'll have to
27:13wait and see on the 28th.
27:15Once the ECI responds to all of these questions about its powers, about its timeline, about its
27:21process, about protecting the right to vote, about protecting citizens and people of the
27:27country, we'll see how this goes forward.
27:29But for now, the SIR exercise will continue.
27:31However, as the court did say, that we can issue a stay on the publication of these voter
27:40rolls.
27:41Anisha, tell me also about, let's talk about the hearing.
27:43What did the side say?
27:45How, when the hearing was on, what was really the defense about it?
27:50And why is it that there is opposition to it?
27:53See, if you look at, see, we had a reasonably long hearing, almost two and a half hour long
27:59hearing, but a lot of it was taken up by the petitioner side and the questions that were
28:04asked by the Supreme Court.
28:05If you look at what the EC has said, EC is saying, we have no intent to delete voters.
28:11We have no intent to deprive people of their right to vote, but we are looking into an exercise
28:15of verification to ensure that everybody who has a right to be on it is there and anybody
28:21who should not be, whose names should be deleted, persons who have died, persons who
28:26are not eligible, are removed.
28:28ECI also saying that Aadhaar is only proof of identity, not a proof of citizenship.
28:34Thirdly, what the ECI is saying is that, well, this is an exercise of voter roll revision,
28:39which is well within the power of the election commission as a constitutional authority.
28:44On the other side, of course, the court saying that, well, we accept and we appreciate what
28:49the ECI is trying to do.
28:51We understand the ECI's roles and powers under the constitution as the authority.
28:56However, we are questioning why you are going into citizenship, what process you are following
29:03and particularly since the petitioners have said that the documentation that the ECI is
29:09asking for, these 11 documents that the ECI is asking for are documents that are not within
29:14the rules that are prescribed under the representation of the People Act.
29:18I understand, there are many layers coming to it, whether ECI can really take the call
29:23on the citizenship issue one and importantly, Aadhaar, remember for many of us, is that prime
29:28document, but is that the document to define citizenship, especially when Bihar is facing
29:32upcoming elections and is this as much about citizenship or about illegal infiltration as
29:39well that's happening in the country.
29:41Several layers here that will be analysed by the court.
29:44Thank you very much, Anisha.
29:44It's a developing story.
29:45I'll keep coming back to you.
29:47Let me now take you to the top story coming in from Maharashtra.
29:50The sitting Sena MLA Sanjay Gayakwad, when asked by India today about his behaviour, if
29:56he wants to put out an apology, even a clarification and why shouldn't action be taken against him,
30:01added in fact a shameful, divisive twist.
30:05Instead of apologising, he says only Marathi speaking or Marathi contractors should be given
30:11these tenders and that he's against South Indians for some reason.
30:16Let's listen to what happened.
30:17He didn't think twice before slapping a defenceless canteen staff member, even knocking him
30:33down to the ground.
30:34And now, Shiv Sena leader Sanjay Gayakwad has decided to take his hateful bigotry a step further.
30:47The same MLA who assaulted a canteen contractor after allegedly being served stale food is now
30:55shaming the contractor for being from the southern part of India.
30:59accusing someone of poor service is one thing, but Gaikwad is now insulting an entire region
31:18of our country.
31:48His remarks have triggered massive outrage, but ironically, it's the canteen contractor
31:55who's paying a heavy price.
31:58The Maharashtra government has now suspended the canteen licence.
32:03While the government has condemned the act, it has remained silent if any direct action will
32:09be taken against the MLA.
32:11The opposition continues to mount pressure on the Devendra Fadnav's government to arrest the
32:18MLA.
32:19The opposition continues to mount pressure on the Devendra Fadnav's government to arrest the MLA.
32:41No word from the government of giving him some advice about what statement should be made.
33:11is somewhere giving wrong messages to people.
33:15The city of Mumbai is already witnessing a language war.
33:19If such communities are named and shamed, then there is more concern in the mind of citizens
33:24as to what the government is planning to do.
33:27There is a reason for this no remorse, only arrogance of this MLA sitting member of Legislative Assembly
33:44of the Shavsena, of the Aik Natshanda Sena.
33:48Over 24 hours, there's been no action taken against the MLA for the assault, which means
33:54for slapping, thrashing, beating him, all of this caught on camera.
33:59He's been defied.
33:59And he has in fact said to India today, we'll hit again if needed.
34:04We'll set a bigger example if needed.
34:07Give canteen contract to a Marathi.
34:09And you'd be surprised to know there appears to have been some action that is taken against
34:14the contractor, against the canteen, not with regard to the MLA.
34:19Political clout, if nothing else.
34:21Divyesh Singh, joining me for the latest on that.
34:24Divyesh, tell us specifically about what Sanjay Gaikwad is now saying.
34:28What is the reason of his defiance?
34:30Because I'm generally surprised the manner in which he's made a comment about a certain
34:34group that's running dance bars and only Marathi contractors should get all the tenders.
34:42Well, yes, Sanjay Gaikwad has again started controversy as he made statements regarding a particular
34:48community from the country who run hotels and restaurants in Mumbai.
34:54Mostly the restaurants and hotel bars are run by a particular community from the country.
35:03And these people, now Sanjay Gaikwad has made controversial statements stating that people
35:09from this community do not cook good food.
35:12And that is why he targeted this particular community.
35:15Sanjay Gaikwad again goes on to bring out the Marathi issue over the state, said that the
35:21contract for running these canteens and restaurants should be given to a Marathi manus.
35:28There's been action against the contractors.
35:31There are 16 samples taken from the canteen of the MLA hostel by the Food and Drug Administration
35:39after the video of Sanjay Gaikwad went viral, where he's seen punching and slapping a canteen
35:48employee over allegations that the dal that he's been served there before yesterday night
35:55was stained.
35:57And that is why he and his accomplices, Sanjay Gaikwad and his accomplices, slapped and punched
36:02the canteen employee.
36:04So, there's been no police complaints besides speaking to my colleague Vidya, speaking to
36:09the canteen employees.
36:11And they said that they haven't filed any complaints.
36:15But some of the employees also said that this place always sees some or the other controversy.
36:21There's been this canteen.
36:22I'm willing to take that point.
36:24That there could be genuine issues of food safety, food regulation, adulteration, not
36:29being served good food.
36:30And yet, can a sitting MLA go on a thrashing spree?
36:33Divyesh, I have this question.
36:34Has Eknar Chandi said anything?
36:36I understand Devendra Fadnavez did as a CM.
36:39But neither with the MNS carder that went on a slapping spree, neither did this MLA have
36:43faced any action.
36:44And I wonder if that's because of upcoming elections, politics, political clout.
36:50Well, regarding this particular case, we have to say this, that the police hasn't registered
36:57a Suomoto case.
36:59There's a video which is in public domain.
37:01But there hasn't been a case registered against Sanjay Gakwar.
37:05The canteen employees who are sick or other employees or even the contractor, they fear
37:12the...
37:12They might be...
37:13I suspect that they might be fearing the political clout of this MLN.
37:17And that is why they have not gone to the police and complained against them.
37:20So there's no official complaint.
37:22So if there's no official complaint, there won't be any action.
37:25But Chief Minister Devendra Panduramit went on record and said that this is not warranted.
37:30The action that he...
37:32The concern here is, will other MLAs, other leaders, someone who's simply a member or a worker
37:39of a political outfit, could take inspiration from this behavior and go around punching.
37:45And we're talking about a city like Mumbai, which is one of the biggest cosmopolitan cities
37:49of India.
37:50Divyesh, appreciate you joining us.
37:51Listen in now to this exclusive conversation again about what did Sanjay Gakwar say to our
37:57colleague Vidya about apology, clarification, and will he do this again?
38:03Here's what he said.
38:33I will say that if you, even if I point a person to give him away, I will come back.
38:37So let me ask you a little bit.
38:38I'll say that this shit is to be my friend.
38:42My friend doesn't know he calls me his friend.
38:43But I don't know.
38:44I tell him if he treats, I don't understand him.
38:46He knows at this because I don't know it's been my friend or his friend.
38:47But I think it's a great کرid.
38:49I'll tell you from my friend to us.
38:50I'll tell you we're doing some things about it.
38:51But to be honest.
38:52Yeah.
38:53But I'm soudhke, you don't know.
38:54Some people have the tendency to ask
38:55I just think that I can't even wise
38:56Yeah.
38:57I don't know.
38:57I don't know.
38:58foreign
39:11foreign
39:15foreign
39:17foreign
39:21foreign
39:27All right, let me now take you through some happy news,
39:36perhaps a matter of reflected glory and pride for all Indians.
39:39From the brass alleys of Moradabad to the global headquarters of Apple,
39:45Sabi Khan's journey is nothing short of iconic.
39:48Born in Moradabad in 1966, Khan spent his early years in India,
39:52where he was born before his family moved to Singapore.
39:55A brilliant student, as he's always been called,
39:59he pursued economics and mechanical engineering at the Tufts University,
40:03followed by a master's from RPI.
40:06Sabi Khan joined Apple in 1995,
40:09spent three decades building the backbone of Apple's global operations,
40:13whether it's procurement, sustainability and more.
40:16Look at that.
40:17He was in fact instrumental in reducing Apple's carbon footprint by over 60%,
40:21played a key role in reshoring, manufacturing to the US and to India recently as well.
40:28So on the 9th of July 2025,
40:31Indian origin Sabi Khan was officially named Apple's chief operating officer,
40:36succeeding Jeff Williams in a planned transition.
40:39A huge moment and perhaps a reminder that Sabi Khan joins a growing league
40:43of Indian origin leaders commanding global tech giants.
40:47Sundar Pichai, of course, a common name in Indian household now,
40:50who's the CEO of Alphabet.
40:52Satya Nadella, chairman and CEO of Microsoft.
40:55Shantanu Narayan, CEO of Adobe.
40:58Arvind Krishna, CEO of IBM.
41:00Neil Mohan, CEO of YouTube.
41:03Nikesh Arora, the CEO of Apollo Auto Networks.
41:06Thomas Kurian, CEO of Google Cloud.
41:09Sanjay Mehrotra, CEO of Micron Technology.
41:11George Kurian, CEO of NetApp.
41:13Jay Shriulal, who's the CEO of Arista Networks.
41:17Vimal Kapoor, CEO of Honeywell.
41:20Anirudh Devgan, CEO of the Cadence Design Systems.
41:24Revati Adwaiti, CEO of Flex.
41:26And remember, I'm just talking about specific sectors here.
41:30There's fashion, there's culture, there's politics,
41:33where Indian origin, men and women, are making a mark in how.
41:37Together, they represent a powerful diaspora,
41:39controlling companies with a market value of nearly $6 trillion,
41:43which is 50% more than India's GDP.
41:46Something to think about.
41:48Sakshi Batra, senior associate editor from Business Today Television, joins me.
41:53Sakshi, it is a matter of not just pride,
41:57but to also reflect upon the values that possibly Indian families
42:00or the brilliant minds we have,
42:02who are making a mark across the world,
42:04and especially in the USA.
42:06And I'm sure that the world has noticed that too.
42:10Absolutely, Pooja, you have hit the nail on the head.
42:12I mean, look at it.
42:13You named at least four of the top five biggest tech players in the world,
42:19the biggest giants that we have in the world.
42:22And all of them now see top leadership being led by Indian origin,
42:28top CEOs and now a COO after Tim Cook.
42:32The surge of Sabi Khan as the number two position of Apple
42:38definitely marks a historic moment for Indian origin talent in the global tech industry.
42:44Remember, under Sabi Khan,
42:46what we will expect is that Apple will strengthen its supply chain resilience
42:50with India as well.
42:52Remember, you know, in the last couple of years,
42:54Apple has been cozying up to India,
42:57launching two flagship stores here,
42:59you know, also raising the number of sales of India-made Apple phones from here.
43:05And this could just be something that India would also want to see
43:09as to how Apple will further India as a plus one from China
43:17or create more opportunities that we can expect.
43:20It's incredible to say the least and wishing him success.
43:23And it's come, I'm sure, after a lot of hard work
43:25under inspiration to not just Indian Americans,
43:29but young Indians as well,
43:31who plan to have possibly explore better shores,
43:34whether in India or abroad.
43:35So Sabi Khan is now the CEO when it comes to Apple.
43:38There was this one industry,
43:39one organization that was missing,
43:41and he's made a mark there as well.
43:44Sakshi, thank you very much for now.
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