00:00Sono Jeff, sono Austin, grazie a te conoscere.
00:02Grazie a te conoscere.
00:04Benvenuti a te, Ro.
00:05Come ti?
00:06Grazie.
00:07Abbiamo un buon momento in questo momento.
00:09Abbiamo avuto grandi conversazioni e alcune delle bestie cose che ho avuto l'ultima notte.
00:13Quindi sono molto felice.
00:14Tu è vero.
00:15In vostro punto di vista, c'è ancora un tipo di ribellione di oggi?
00:21Chi sono i ribelli?
00:23Ci sono persone che sentono che non si riuscite.
00:26Sì, abbiamo parlato molto di cool ham luke oggi.
00:30E si parlano di square peg, round hole.
00:33Alcanzialmente ti senti che il board non è stato per l'ultima notte per l'ultima.
00:37Quindi ti senti a andare fuori l'ultima.
00:40E in mio opinion, è l'ultima che ci sono le più interessanti cose che succede.
00:44Le più interessanti sono musici, arti, fashioni.
00:48E' l'ultima che è l'ultima.
00:52Il interessante di questo line in Il Wilde è che cosa hai?
00:57Non ha bisogno di avere un obiettivo.
01:00Non ha bisogno di avere un obiettivo.
01:01Non ha bisogno di avere un obiettivo.
01:04Non voglio fare quello che tutti gli altri sono.
01:07È un'interessante l'instincte.
01:09E' un'interessante per un'altra volta.
01:13E per te, Osti?
01:14È un'interessante, la nonconformità.
01:19È l'essenza che è nonconforming.
01:23Tutti vogliamo essere uniche, tutti vogliamo essere individui.
01:26Quindi abbiamo bisogno di definire noi.
01:29Abbiamo bisogno di rebelare.
01:31È davvero fascinante.
01:33Hai avuto l'opportunità di spiegare la cultura biker in questo film.
01:40Do you think that the concept of masculinity has changed from the time?
01:50It's a good question.
01:51I mean, it's evolving.
01:53You know, we've got these definitions and responsibilities.
01:57I don't feel like it's changed for me.
01:59I can only answer for myself.
02:01I'm not an anthropologist.
02:02I can't tell you, you know, some socially minded answer.
02:07I feel a responsibility in my life.
02:09I feel a responsibility in my family, you know.
02:13And it feels like almost masculinity is guided by an invisible set of rules.
02:18I don't know who wrote them.
02:19I don't know where they come from.
02:21But I somehow feel animated by them.
02:24And so much, I think, of what's in this film is guys kind of struggling with agreeing with those responsibilities
02:35or not.
02:36And their inability to enunciate how they're really feeling.
02:43You want to think we've moved past this idea that men can't show weakness, that men can't show emotion, but
02:50it goes beyond just social mores.
02:52It's not just because that's the way things were set up in the 1950s.
02:55It can't be because it's still around like kids today.
03:00Young men are still dealing with that.
03:03So for better or worse, it seems like a thing that we're going to be trying to figure out for
03:10a really long time.
03:12Yeah, it's fascinating exploring this because it's really causing me to have these deep questions of, you know, what is...
03:25Ultimately, we're attaching labels to an energetic force, I think.
03:30Like, you know, like the idea of masculinity or femininity or...
03:34But ultimately, it's these...
03:36It is...
03:36It's an energetic feeling.
03:38So what is that?
03:39Because I think it exists in both, you know, regardless of gender, you have these certain energies that, you know,
03:46I think...
03:49So that's where my mind starts to go, questioning what is that, you know?
03:53You know, and we can call it whatever we want, but if you're kind of going with the classic sense
03:59of those labels, then I think that they're timeless in a way, you know?
04:06And it's that polarity that makes life really exciting.
04:12How was bike training?
04:14It was really, really fun.
04:17Dangerous?
04:18I suppose, you know, riding a motorcycle is always dangerous.
04:23The fact, I mean, Jeff pulled some strings and got us to be able to ride without helmets in this
04:27film.
04:28And that's pretty amazing.
04:29Did I ever tell you they sent this thing and they were like, well, maybe we could do this.
04:33And it was these thin helmets with fake hair on the top.
04:36And I took it, looked at one picture and was like, that will not be happening.
04:39The hair helmet.
04:40I'll just not make the film.
04:41Thank God.
04:45My time is finished. It was a pleasure talking to you.
04:49Nice talking to you.
04:50Thank you to be here.
04:51I'm going to be there and see you next time too.
04:55But we have definitely a hydroACY method.
04:55Bye-bye.
