00:00Ciao James, sono Lucrezia e benvenuti a Roma.
00:04Prima di tutto, è piacere di metterci.
00:05È piacere di metterci, too.
00:06E come sei?
00:08Sono bene, sono felice, mi piace Roma.
00:10È la più grande città del mondo per me, quindi sono felice.
00:13Cosa hai potuto capire di capire la razza di Ronald Reagan in 1918
00:20e di fare il signo di racismo che vediamo nel film rimane oggi?
00:26Non so quanto capire ho capito.
00:28I probably have less now than I did as a kid.
00:31You know, when you're a kid, you think you know everything.
00:34Today I look at the situation and I'm lost.
00:40But as a kid, I was very aware early on at the different treatment
00:45that the teacher would give to different children.
00:49Children are very smart.
00:51They're not innocents either.
00:53Children can sometimes be very cruel.
00:55My own children lie all the time.
00:58Who ate the cake?
00:59I didn't, Daddy.
01:01You know, and I know that they ate it.
01:03So, I think as a kid, I understood the difference in the treatment.
01:10But today as an adult, it seems ever more layered, complex, difficult.
01:18So, I'm less comfortable now than I was when I was 12.
01:23If we do not decide to be bolder for our rights and let go of selfishness,
01:31could the end of the world come?
01:32Well, it's a great question.
01:36The human race has wondered and worried about the end of time forever, right?
01:42I mean, we have the potential of nuclear holocaust over our heads.
01:47But it's not really a new feeling.
01:51I mean, if you said to somebody in the year 1350 with bubonic plague, the Black Death throughout Europe,
02:00I would think Armageddon would seem clear to them.
02:03The end of the human race would seem quite apparent.
02:08It's sort of a constant struggle that we have.
02:10It's almost like we need it.
02:13We need it to make the world better.
02:19So, I think it's a terrifying prospect and I think it's real.
02:24But maybe the other side of it is that it's what helps us try to do better.
02:29What does this movie represent to you and what is the universal element of this movie?
02:36It represents, for me, I was trying to just be as honest as I could about myself
02:44and about what I thought the world looked like for me.
02:48I tried to put no wall between myself and the work.
02:54In a larger sense, I think it reflects a very, if I succeed,
03:01a very complex and difficult experience and what it means to grow up in a world
03:08where history is not knowable.
03:11And there are so many layers to it that you almost can't get to the root of it.
03:17What is movie cathartic for you and could be cathartic for the audience?
03:22Maybe for the audience, not for me.
03:25Not for me at all.
03:27I feel like what I really want to do is just keep making,
03:30you know, okay, the next film is two years later,
03:33the next two years after that, just keep making the same story
03:36because for me, I feel a state of constant torment.
03:41You know, I'm always miserable.
03:43You ask my wife, she says,
03:44Okay, I understand you're miserable, now take out the garbage, you know.
03:47But I am.
03:48I'm like, I'm like, really?
03:50I don't feel any catharsis at all.
03:52The audience is another matter.
03:55James, thank you for your time.
03:56It was a pleasure talking to you.
03:58Thank you so much.
03:59Very nice to meet you.
04:00Thank you.
