00:00Sir, nabanggit niyo po na alam ninyo yung Joint Circular on Confidential and Intelligence Funds.
00:08Hindi niyo po ba naisip na violation ang pagbibigay ni Ms. Acosta kay Colonel Lachica ng bulto-bultong cold cash?
00:19Ma'am, based on, because again ma'am, I was not aware of the arrangement ma'am, but when I
00:25was doing the replies ma'am to the AOM
00:29and of course I also checked on the JC, ma'am.
00:35The pagpili po ng mga person to implement the different activities of the confidential activities
00:46and to designate a security officer is indicated also in the JMC and is within the authority of the head
00:56of agency.
00:57So yun po yung pagkakaintinti ko at the time.
01:00So with that ma'am, I saw it that it was the manner of how the funds were handled ma
01:12'am
01:12was following a regular process ma'am based on the JMC, based on my understanding.
01:20But then again, Mr. Ortonio, in closing, yung close reading ng JMC na sabi niyo nga familiar kayo
01:26would show na hiwalay pa sa usapin ng implementation, yung paghawak ng pondo ay dun lamang sa isang katulad ni
01:36Ms. Gina Acosta
01:37at hindi pwedeng ipagkatiwala bilang accountable officer siya.
01:41Hindi pwedeng ipasakamay sa iba.
01:44Ang understanding ko po ma'am, yes, the disbursement is with the special disbursing officer
01:51but the implementation ma'am was done through the security officer.
01:55Of course. Hindi po ko po tinatanong yung implementation.
01:58Tinatanong ko po yung violation ng JMC na alam ninyo
02:02nung tinurnover ni Ms. Gina Acosta ang bulta-bultong cash kay Colonel LaChica.
02:08Something that I simply think should not and could not have escaped your eyes, Mr. Ortonio.
02:16Yes, ma'am.
02:18Again, ma'am, based on the, for the 2022, ma'am, I could not recall that
02:24that was a concern, ma'am, in the AOMs, ma'am.
02:27Although for the 2023, ma'am, na notice for this allowance, ma'am,
02:34it is subject for reply also on our end, ma'am.
02:39And we are currently drafting also a reply for that one.
02:43And of course, given the strict internal controls na siguro kayo yung pinakami oversight sa opisina,
02:49even prior further communications from COA,
02:52after yung unang pagpansin nila sa last quarter 2022,
02:57eh di dapat nag-exert kayo ng higit na pagbantay the next three quarters of 2023.
03:03Ma'am, um...
03:04Kindly wind up, Senator Judge Riza?
03:06Yes, winding up now, Mr. President.
03:08Your Honor, we were able to receive the audit observation memo for 2022
03:14in September, in October 4 of 2023.
03:21So, we got the observations po, ma'am.
03:25We already got the AOM, ma'am,
03:28and yung three quarters for 2023 was already implemented.
03:34Again po, Mr. Ortonio, even prior any further communications from COA,
03:38dahil familiar kayo sa JMC,
03:40sabi nyo nga, dapat alam nyo na po yun.
03:42Nag-ang salamat, Mr. Ortonio.
03:44Thank you, sir.
