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‘Kung tinatago, bakit ipapakita sa kabila?’

During the impeachment trial, Senator-judge Joel Villanueva questioned forensic financial analyst witness Cabrera on whether the documents he reviewed showed that companies linked to Vice President Sara Duterte and her husband, Atty. Manases “Mans” Carpio, moved corporate funds into their personal bank accounts as income or shares.

Cabrera said he could not confirm if unreported funds from companies like Cale88 and GenCorp Metrocity went into the couple’s personal accounts. He also asked why such transactions would be shown if they were supposed to be hidden. (Video courtesy of Senate of the Philippines)

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00:00I don't want to tell you what happened, but if you have taken care of it, what is your question?
00:10I want to understand, Your Honor, these are two, but they are different. Table 39 and 41.
00:19They are in 2022 and 2023.
00:23I want to know, and if you can, the adjustment per year, especially if the tax base or coverage of
00:34it, Your Honor.
00:36Okay, let me see.
01:00Particularly the two years, 2022 and 2023.
01:07Saka table 41.
01:10Opo.
01:29May Metro City po doon sa isa.
01:31Opo.
01:32Pali, ano po yan eh, Metro City, KL88, saka GenCorp.
01:36Now, it's supposed to be the same.
01:39Pero, pagdating yung 2022 and 2023.
01:41Nakahiwalay po yung GenCorp.
01:44Saan po nakahiwalay, sir?
01:46Hindi, nakahiwalay pong column yung sa GenCorp.
01:48Oo, nakahiwalay.
01:49Opo.
01:51Undeclared income section.
01:54Again, just to clarify, if there are, if there's an explanation to this, meron po bang working paper na sumusuport?
02:03Meron po.
02:04Opo.
02:05Medyo hindi ko lang po ma-identify ngayon yung amount.
02:08Medyo unfamiliar po ako dun sa discrepancy.
02:13Pero, I'm very sure po we can prove.
02:15Meron pong 795 na difference, I will.
02:18Opo.
02:18Bigyan nyo po ako ng, baka mamaya po, babalikan po.
02:21The bottom line here that I wanted to raise is that, will it also affect the bigger picture of your
02:31report
02:31na maraming hindi ma-explain na pondo na pumapasok sa mga companya?
02:41Wala pong magbabago po doon sa aking report.
02:46At kahit po yung maliit na difference pong yan, I'm sure po ma-reconcile po namin.
02:52And then lastly, meron po bang dokumento sa inyong ni-review na natanggap po ng mag-asawa ang corporate money
03:04as personal income o proportionate share lamang yung pong ginamit po ninyo?
03:12Ang sinasabi nyo po ba yung pong hindi naka-report sa halimbawa po Kali 88?
03:18Yes.
03:19Or sa Gencorp Metro City.
03:22Kung yung hindi naka-report na yun ay nag-flow sa kanila pong individual bank account?
03:27Sa personal nila, opo.
03:29Hindi ko po masabi kung nangyari po yun.
03:33Pero kung tinatago nyo po, ba't nyo ipapakita sa kabila?
03:36Exactly.
03:38Please.

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