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The Commanders and Ravens collided yesterday for a joint practice in Owings Mill, Maryland. There were multiple reports that surfaced yesterday about Baltimore destroying Washington during the practice. How concerned are you about yesterday’s beatdown?
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00:00do you think adam peters is panicking today i was just driving around yesterday and everybody who
00:05i guess witnessed the joint scrimmage they were apoplectic i heard mitch tischler on with grant
00:14and danny and what jumped out at me and i know there are different phrases and we're gonna have
00:18nikki javala on and people are using the word inoperable but the thing which jumped out to me
00:23was he said if this was a real game the commander's offense might not have had 100 yards right is
00:31that
00:31what he said well i think that's a lot it's concerning yeah listen the only bright don't
00:36there's no bright spot but the only thing you can hang your hat on is you can hope that allegretti
00:41will be there in week one and cosme will be there that'll settle things down a little bit but that's
00:45not to say that they'll be great now i don't think anybody thinks that at this point but you had
00:50cosby missing because of illness uh allegretti out because of the calf of course you've lost
00:55tonsil so what it had you had brandon coleman at left tackle and at this point he looks like a
00:59pro
00:59bowler compared to the the rest of the stuff he's dealing with you had chris paul at left guard you
01:03had matt coleman the rookie at center you had julian good jones who wasn't good enough at center so they
01:08moved him over to guard and then another rookie that i've never heard of to know it to go togi
01:12rotating
01:13at guard and then you had connerly last year's uh top pick at right tackle so it was just a
01:19makeshift
01:20unit and i don't think that's a unit that we would start but the good news is is it's a
01:26big eye
01:27opener in my opinion for if there's ever any doubt that we have enough depth at the offensive line
01:34obviously we don't and i think that clearly they're gonna have to make some moves here by all accounts
01:41everybody that watched that yesterday said it was basically the worst offensive performance they've
01:48seen in years in a joint practice situation now the ravens are really good so chalk that up that's
01:55part of it they looked really good just two weeks ago against the dolphins who are really bad so we're
02:01not the worst team in football uh the dolphins might be up there in the running but we might be
02:04in the
02:05running um it's not a good thing it's not good it's not ideal to have to bring in new
02:10bodies when it's almost september but if that's what you have to do to upgrade the play of the
02:16offensive line that's what adam peters and his staff are absolutely going to have to do when
02:20cut down day happens on sunday they'll be sifting through all of those for sure to try to eric makes
02:25a good point i mean they were down three starters right in a joint practice okay certainly so they
02:31hopefully will have two of those guys back i would assume definitely cosme so one guy and then
02:37hopefully allegretti so then you'll be down one starter out for the year but you'll be down
02:41coleman i think is going to be one instead of three honestly of all the problems right now colin i'm
02:45not
02:45i'm not that that worried about colin he'll get beat but i think he'll be okay the problem is if
02:50those guys go down there's nothing i'll go down it's a real problem then it's a real huge issue
02:55yeah and offensive linemen get hurt every day yeah all the time every day listening to mitch though
03:01one point that was brought up and i think grant brought this up is allegretti had 80 snaps
03:07last season yeah yeah it's a backup i know yeah he's a backup that they've moved to be the starting
03:13team but he's still slotted to be a starter so you have to assume he's going to be better he's
03:18confident in him mildly confident someone they tried to go out in free agency and get a center
03:22i know i'm not confident in him i'm not confident in in allegretti why don't they just spend the money
03:29what is the deal just spend the money i mean they were trying to with linderbaum but it just got
03:33out
03:34of control to spend it spend 29 million dollars on the easily he's one of the top two or three
03:39of
03:39this position now it's a wild overspend i know it's too late i'm just saying they had all this cap
03:43room yeah you know they decided not to spend it but i don't know i guess they didn't want to
03:47set
03:47the market at center whatever they made that decision it is what it is i actually easy to question it
03:52now i actually do think it's good that we got exposed the worst thing could have been
03:56that could have happened as we gone out there and kind of just kind of were neutral maybe the
04:01ravens were taking it easy on us or whatever and it just and we weren't quite exposed a false sense
04:06of confidence yeah it wasn't all bad news either there were some positives from the joint practice
04:11antonio williams looked really good yeah he says i'm telling you i don't dare use the word star he's
04:16gonna be the number three he'll be the three very good player what jumped out at anybody that watched
04:22him is the way he runs his routes you saw it yesterday they put the clips he's just smoking
04:26guys in the line of scrimmage some people were tweeting that they they were getting amon ross st
04:30brown type that's been that's been the comparison if you get a poor man's amon ross in antonio
04:37williams that's a massive he's just got a different wiggle yeah and that that's what's jumped out at
04:42people so i think he's going to be great and i think also you take it for what it's worth
04:47listen
04:47when they were on 11 11 by all accounts there were batted balls drop passes interceptions uh
04:54bad snaps bad snaps over the head all of that it's like literally everything like nightmare fuel
04:59you could think of but when they were on the seven on sevens would you kind of take the offensive
05:03line out of the question they said they look really sharp jayden continue to look really sharp he just
05:08had zero time to get anything done so they'd be a good flag football team it'd be great flag football
05:12team they'd be great in texas wherever they do seven on sevens you know in high school right no but
05:17i
05:17think the point is it's so obvious blatantly obvious to dopes like us that they got to address
05:24this that i think and it's happened early enough that they you can only get so much but maybe they're
05:30gonna have to dig deep and make a trade you know and actually give up some real capital and not
05:35just
05:35get someone's garbage the the the money quote from nikki javala was this is the worst i've ever seen
05:42the commander's offense in years inoperable offensive line and it was universal i saw somebody tweet us
05:49oh that's just nikki javala's opinion no no everybody it was everybody's opinion how does that make you
05:56feel as a commander's fan 1-800-636-1067 it was dark yesterday are you in a state of panic
06:01or do you just
06:02say hey they've got a guy they got a bunch of guys who are injured well this isn't really the
06:08representation of what you're going to see in their opener against the eagle against the eagles
06:13um they should be fine i hope david blau has a good amount of bootlegs in his offense for jayden
06:19daniels to get moving away from the pressure you know what it's going to be great passing i know that
06:23david blau wants to play more under center yeah maybe he should just let the play shotgun so you're a
06:30little bit further away from those guys i mean if when you have a suspect offensive line if car a
06:35little
06:35further away carter and company are in everybody's face in the first series or two you're probably
06:40going to see a little shift towards that's the other thing i mean not only are you playing again
06:43the schedule's brutal you're playing teams with unbelievable you know front fours etc front sevens
06:50whatever you want to call it um they know that we're struggling in that area too and they're not
06:55only are they just good on their own they're going to get after and try to expose you yeah right
07:01it's
07:02going to be even worse eagle the eagles coaches and i'm guaranteeing that the commander their chops
07:07commanders coaches are doing the same thing they're gearing up for week one yeah that's what they're
07:11they probably been doing that for a couple weeks right eagles coaching staff they're gearing up for
07:15week one so they're taking it you're trying to take advantage of it's a vic fangio defense in week
07:20one with a subpar offensive line now part of it is it's not just that these guys are subpar and
07:27that's
07:27probably true on some level right like you know julian good jones played two snaps ever you know
07:32there's a reason he's like 28 29 been around a long time just barely played but also when you have
07:37such a makeshift group in there everyone knows that offensive line play communication is so big
07:44they don't they don't have any experience with each other you know what i mean and even with
07:48a bit allegretti in there to your point of him only having 80 some snaps or whatever it is at
07:53center
07:53they need i think allegretti will be okay personally i might differ from cakes but he's got to get the
08:00reps with to get the communication down with the guys cohesion is big with your offensive line if you
08:06miss a big chunk of training camp and you miss the games and the yeah the joint scrimmages it's it's
08:11tough yeah it's tough to get plugged in there especially if you're bringing in new guys that are
08:16getting cut from other teams after the last preseason game then you have to get them used to your system
08:21yeah get them assimilated it i'm guessing it's a five alarm fire over at ashburn right now okay
08:29i'm i wouldn't be surprised if some guys didn't even didn't even go home last night does it change
08:35your approach for the final preseason game you say you know what way to get these guys back on the
08:40field i don't know because you're playing against bums i don't know that helps you i honestly don't
08:46know are you talking about like yeah playing jaden daniels specifically i don't think so play the first
08:50team offense no i don't think so you just got now it's if you were the coach lock it down
08:54you might
08:54try to back out there yeah dan quinn isn't gonna i'm from the tom brady school okay yeah you would
08:59do it but dq's not yeah i still don't know what you gain from like even if you smoke the
09:03third you
09:04know third teamers me maybe you just said communication you're gonna work on those type
09:09of things you can do that in practice i mean there is a utility they've been practicing
09:14yeah but not necessarily this group together um it was a pretty makeshift group that's the only
09:21thing to like to to give you pause from flat out full-blown panic yeah is that two-fifths right
09:2940 percent of your offensive line that you expect to be there week one wasn't there and you're truly
09:34playing guys like to know it to told i don't even not say the guy's name and i don't want
09:37to be
09:37disrespectful i don't even not tell it to goal to guy he was shit he was he was rotating apparently
09:45with julian good job he was rotating struggled at center don't mean to be disrespectful to him
09:50sure he's a great athlete but you know it's a big jump and gulbin you know his first shot at
09:56it at
09:56this level it's a tough spot for gulbin he's a six-round pick you want to ease that guy in
10:00and not
10:00put him in such high leverage situations as a rookie but he might be forced he might be forced
10:05into the fray the best with all the injuries the best case is is that that was just a group
10:10that was gonna eat it there was no way around it you're going to get some very very good raven's
10:15team
10:15the raven's team is expected to win 10 11 games and you just had so much inexperience up front that
10:21you didn't have a shot that's the that's the best case you would and you're gonna get two of those
10:27guys back let's get two of those guys back and hope and i think that allegretti will be okay
10:31and i think that they're definitely on the phones trying to work something out
10:35but it should be a five alarm fire or you get that if not making a trade for a lineman
10:40trying
10:40to get a uh a free agent they'd mention that guy glass is it glasgow it's a gram glasgow he's
10:46a
10:47free agent i think he's 34 years old yeah he's a guy there's a reason why they're i know free
10:51agents this long i know i guarantee my guess would be they're all so banged up they're a shadow of
10:57them for myself i'd still get mccall i'd still fly him in here and see what he's got i'm sure
11:01they
11:02are they're so banged up it's just you know they've been through the wars um you know offensive
11:09line guys i mean those are car accidents every play but when they play the eagles they're not
11:14going to be starting you know jones right and gulbin it'll be a little bit better it'll be a
11:20little bit better i think it's actually gonna be great that'd be great because you're going to be
11:23going against studs and also pro bowlers and also and i'm not sure how they do it they probably do
11:29it a little less they're gonna probably you know they're gonna chip more they're gonna have that
11:33extra tight end they're gonna do other things they're gonna say okay obviously we need help
11:37here they're not necessarily doing that and a controlled scrimmage control scrimmage they want
11:41to see what they got true but this is good news we saw what we got not a lot i
11:44hope bill's ready to
11:45block in year two but see this is a challenge not just for that offensive line because you're going
11:50against davis and um jordan davis and jalen carter two studs at dt those guys are going to eat
11:57this is a challenge for david blau because david blau is a rookie oc and i know he's smart and
12:03he
12:03knows offense and he's been thinking about everything he's been thinking about the eagles for weeks
12:07but this is a challenge for him big yeah if your offensive line isn't performing up to the level that
12:13you need them to in a hostile environment in week one yep it's gonna be tough makes me think of
12:18the
12:18comments and we haven't played him this week the colin cowherd had earlier this week where he
12:23picked the commanders last and one of the things he kind of threw out there was that kingsbury left
12:30and we really don't know the real story did kingsbury leave because he wasn't feeling good
12:35about things you're making it sound like kingsbury left of his own accord he was basically thrown
12:41overboard well he didn't just i heard that's that's the way that colin portrayed it and i don't know
12:47that he was thrown overboard no no it was mutual on both sides my understanding come kind of talked
12:52about it is that he wanted out they wanted out everybody wanted a mutual parting of the way
12:56so he wanted out why did he want it part of the reason my understanding is just communications
13:02you know probably the way that overseeing dan quinn dan quinn sits down says hey are you willing to
13:08uh have jayden under center more and he said no i'm gonna run my office the way i have always
13:14they wanted to do some different things well then there's the door i know but maybe we don't know
13:21this maybe cliff kingsbury is a better offense coordinator than david blau it's very possible
13:27of course that totally has a track record of success totally possible including jayden's rookie
13:32season but they both wanted out so that was it wasn't going to happen this year with that group
13:38regardless so i don't know will david bobby a good coordinator i don't know no idea we'll see
13:42i'm not high i mean are you pining for cliff kingsbury to be back no i mean no but i
13:47wonder if
13:49blau in this offense is going to be as good as anything that cliff kingsbury could have done cliff
13:53kingsbury is proven true yeah he's but he's also his system has limitations it's a unique system it's
14:00like a one-of-one in the league um i think everybody has been there's been a breath of fresh
14:05air that
14:06they're moving guys pre-snap um that they're going to give different looks not going to be under
14:10center as much for all for good reasons not just for addressing but what we didn't hear under cliff
14:15kingsbury was that the offense was inoperable we didn't hear he also didn't have to know what to
14:21go live he had injuries and all these other guys i don't think we never heard it was bad on
14:25the
14:25offensive we never heard it was the worst offense in years yeah this was a practice let's not get
14:30crazy i understand yeah it's a practice it just makes me wonder guys it's not a blast they go to
14:36philly and they get dump trucked and lose 31 to 7 yeah then we're gonna question they're living in
14:43the backfield and jaden's running around john paul flame we're gonna question it's certainly not a
14:47confidence booster when everybody is saying that it was the worst it's bad as they've seen but i don't
14:54think anybody's insinuating it's a blau thing you you're you're doing you're doing kind of maybe
14:59you're doing a different bit but no one different bit i'm i said i'm curious i'm wondering no one's
15:05not saying cliff kingsbury was the best offense coordinator in football he's not you could probably
15:12name three or four guys off the top of your head who have uh better reputations how about but he's
15:19had success he's had moments in the league for sure including here and then he's also has a track
15:24and his offenses goes down so he has initial success and then it goes down i think but his
15:29offenses were never called inoperable i think j what jp's trying to say is is that maybe
15:35cliff would be better suited to handle uh about the line deficiencies more than a rookie first
15:43year he runs more shotgun i mean maybe well well he's he's he's more he's more experienced maybe
15:49maybe it's fine it's possible david blau is the worst offensive coordinator ever well no no no no
15:55it's no one's saying that but the worst one in the league but it's possible here well you're getting
15:59a little defensive i'm getting a little defensive because this is not an indictment on the offense
16:05as a whole in my opinion and they're going to work on that they're going to adjust that but i'm
16:09just
16:09saying it's a challenge for blau because he hasn't been there right sure cliff cliff has run the ring
16:14he's bad david blau is totally unproven but i also don't think he's gonna i actually don't think
16:19he's gonna throw up but he's also gonna have two of those guys back yeah we would assume that's what
16:24you got to keep in mind those guys back they better and they might have another guy if they
16:27go out and make a trade or sign a guy yeah i i agree with you eric i think cliff
16:31has limitations
16:32a la like greg roman where where things can be great but but you you kind of have a glass
16:37ceiling
16:38but cliff cliff has been there before and might be better equipped to handle
16:43you know everything going sideways in a season as i just feel like it's a wild i i hear you
16:49and i
16:50i think i can understand why someone would think that but i just don't think he'd even need to go
16:55to that hypothetical at this point until he starts throwing up all over himself and also if cliff
17:00there's no reason to think that he's gonna fail if cliff was so great and so on demand i think
17:04he
17:05would have landed a different job than offensive he's an offensive assistant with the rams right
17:09it's basically a consultant just standing there in a sunglasses wouldn't he have like an oc job or
17:14maybe even a head coaching gig what if he wasn't in a rush to get there yeah i mean he's
17:19still
17:19making money from 19 different i understand but like i i feel like he would have landed in a more
17:23prominent spot maybe he's just taking his time for his picking his next spot possibly or it's also
17:29possible there wasn't a lot of demand for cliff kingsbury on the market yeah there's that possibility
17:34that yesterday's performance on any level at this point is an indictment on blau so this is what
17:39coward said and it was after the preseason game because if you actually toss in the one series
17:45and then you go with this the offense has struggled so he said coward said i've said
17:50washington last place is my pick jayden daniels three snaps incompletion sack run play punt all we
17:56saw the offensive line is bad i don't like the vibe of this franchise ownership down cliff kingsbury
18:02bailed ben johnson after interviewing said it's a lot of basketball guys who think they know football
18:07they just not have enough good young players because they've given up draft picks to get where
18:12they're at and they had a bad weekend i only counter to that would be i think the defense
18:17will be markedly better i really do think so okay how could you be worse they're really bad i think
18:22they'll be markedly better on defense today a lot of bright spots there potentially um i think sunny
18:27styles obviously still in a learning curve i think he's gonna be great in coverage um and i think
18:32offensively if they can find a way to patch the offensive line and chip and help out it's gonna limit
18:39them a little bit i do think they've had some of their better talent than they've had in years
18:43if you want to weigh in on the raven commanders joint practice some reasons for optimism you can do
18:48that at 800-636-1067 on an open line thursday don't forget dave richard from cbssports.com he's
18:55gonna help you get ready for your upcoming fantasy football draft coming for me is tomorrow night
19:00you all have them and we'll be joined by nikki javala at 8 25 she was at commander's ravens
19:05joint practice yesterday that's all coming up on the fan
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