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00:03what's up everybody welcome back to another edition of straight out of flushing dexter
00:07henry tyler ward with you it was warty's birthday weekend so i want everybody here to wish him a
00:13happy birthday warty happy birthday i already said this to you but i'm gonna say it again
00:16hopefully you had a lovely weekend how you doing my friend dex had a great weekend you know not
00:21too long ago you're like oh when are you gonna get tomato faced again from the summer we're here
00:24birthday weekend is what's gonna justify it so yeah no thank you for the wishes i appreciate that
00:28i know that you had a great weekend with the family as well birthday related so that's all
00:33great to hear and we got a lot to talk about you know i was at my age for 72
00:37hours and a busy weekend
00:38busy news as we're talking right now we got john hayman our friend here at the post stating some
00:44news earlier today that we're gonna get into and much more so a lot of things going on in mets
00:48land
00:48i'm curious to know how mets fans watching this are gonna feel about some of the news that we're gonna
00:52break down maybe some happy maybe some sad maybe some in between we're gonna find out we'll find
00:58out all right first thing we gotta talk about off the top right off the top luis robert jr i'm
01:03not
01:03gonna say this was anybody's boy because i don't think either of us claimed luis robert jr this year
01:08but he was put on waivers uh last week that was an interesting discussion around the mets and the fans
01:14now claimed by the orioles and i find this very interesting because he was one of the signature pieces
01:22of the off season i remember the day after the mets traded for him i spoke with our baseball
01:28insider joel sherman about this and we both agreed we thought this was a good move for the mets we
01:32thought this was a good high upside risk for them to take but now another team is taking off waivers
01:41before this season is even over uh i guess my major question because there's a bunch of questions i have
01:48here about luis robert jr and his time with the mets as short as it was but what do you
01:55think
01:56this says this fact that he's now going to be with the orioles they claim to offer waivers
02:02how much does his short tenure symbolize what went wrong for the mets this offseason
02:08ah talk about unfortunate i mean if there's anyone that you could classify as maybe viewing robert as
02:13their boy to an extent i guess you could say me just because i like i'll call myself out what
02:18i've
02:19always admired robert in his game people who have followed me on my youtube channel wordy and when
02:23for years going back to 2023 even 2022 i would be making videos with robert and soto on the thumbnail
02:28like two guys like that the mets should be trained for funny enough both on the team this year play
02:33together for what like 10 games maybe that's about it and now they're out of here that being in robert
02:38so
02:38immediate immediate not soto thankfully that's a good thing um immediate reactions to this is
02:45you know man just when you think about how the year went you think of steve cohen's remarks not
02:50long ago saying how the mets invested far too much in a risk over reward this year robert is the
02:56most
02:56prime example if you're not going to use jorge polanco right i mean the guy didn't even play 60 games
03:00for the mets this season you know batted right around league average at a 96 wrc plus 10 home runs
03:06an 841 ops returning from injury that we saw really heated up now looking healthier and that's
03:12exactly why you have a team like the orioles going ahead and claiming him but to just answer your first
03:17question here dex this perfectly symbolizes the roster that david stearns built this year and i
03:22honestly find it both comical and fitting that out of every team that could have claimed robert you
03:28know as their boy it's the baltimore royals who have pete alonzo having the best season arguably of
03:34his career right now carrying the weight people gonna say why you gotta go bring up old stuff
03:38already why you gotta go bring up old stuff oh we have to bring up old stuff because that old
03:42stuff
03:42is gonna be in our faces dex we're gonna likely be at the game when that series starts against the
03:47royals in two weeks and we got pete alonzo and lice robert back in town how what do we what
03:51do we
03:52want to go over under six home runs total between the two and this yo yeah like come on it's
03:57gonna be
03:58bad it's gonna be bad it's gonna be bad you're just it's not gonna be good september paying for
04:03the mets right here it's gonna be bad it's not gonna be good it's not gonna be it's not gonna
04:06be a good three days it feels very metsish for it to be like over six home runs between the
04:12two
04:12players it feels very checks out one home run a game for each at least very much checks out you
04:17think pete's not gonna have a two-homer game come on if pete if pete's shell-shocked i'll be a
04:22little surprised i think pete's gonna come in and like have such a chip on his shoulder oh he's gonna
04:27he's gonna be wanting to just pelt everything as fu's constantly and you can't blame him
04:31you can't blame him at all if i was him i'd come in with that energy too do i listen
04:37because you said
04:38you agree that this symbolizes this the recent offseason for the mets everything that went wrong
04:44right he went and got this guy you made this gamble it didn't work we'll get into more later about
04:51what kind of players the men should be trying to get going forward um but for me i'm still going
04:59to defend the gamble in the price they gave up for him i like i still think it's fine like
05:05i still
05:05would be true yeah two things can be true yeah now you can sit here and tell me do you
05:11think
05:12that david stern should have maybe valued availability from the players he went for a little bit more
05:18last offseason and i will say absolutely right and we can there's a deeper discussion to be had
05:24about this some people are going to say oh you know they're going to just market bad trade for
05:27sterns i still think the gamble was worth it now in totality was the gamble worth it when you're
05:35also signing a jorge polanco that to me is a fair question you got to talk about right because all
05:42of
05:42these things can't just be isolated this is where i'm with you my friend two things can't be true
05:46nothing is just isolated in this way i love the upside of louise robert jr you love the upside
05:53i still do it's not that i don't you know it's just when you can't play more than half a
05:58season
05:59and we're going on four years now you know how how many how many more excuses can i give him
06:04you know
06:05that's the main thing and and this was and this was our example we found out this year right we've
06:10been wanting for this the mets almost trade from a deadline last year chose not to because they were
06:15saying yo yo yo yo david can you give us aj ewing can like can we just give us aj
06:21ewing and we'll
06:21give you at least robert and he was like yeah nobody no because at least david had the foresight
06:26to know that aj was going to be the future of the outfield and not louise robert so i think
06:31that goes
06:31in as to why the mets only had to trade a louise on helacuna who has a sub 600 ops
06:36for the white
06:37socks this year you know so all i have to say about the robert situation all in all is that
06:42i wish him the best as someone who's always been a fan of his game i know he didn't work
06:46out here
06:46but i also know that when he was healthy here he was good that's honestly true like when he was
06:52when
06:52he was healthy the first month of the year solid when the defense started to go away it's because
06:56his back started to bark up and they were trying to have him play through it and then they had
06:59to
07:00shut him down after months again the lack of availability sucks and it definitely is a bummer but thankfully
07:05this wasn't a situation where the mets gave up a canes ransom for louise robert and now he's out of
07:10here this is very much okay you know i was talking to some friends on this i've had some mets
07:15fans that
07:15through the heater of robert post injury saying oh they're they're gonna make sure he comes back
07:20they're gonna buy in his 20 million dollar option like i have a bridge to sell you like i always
07:24have
07:24bridges to sell but like that one never never equated i'm like even if robert return of the mets they
07:30were gonna buy out his contract of two million dollars they would sign him to a lesser deal that they
07:34felt
07:34was you know deemed worthy and that would also mean that robert would not have to sign elsewhere in
07:38the free agent market so there were already some hurdles to robert even being in met next year is all
07:43at all and the fact that they put him on waivers decks makes it abundantly clear the mets prioritize
07:48saving around five million dollars this year and potentially the money that they would be saving
07:54next year over giving robert further runway they saw all they need to see from release robert and i think
08:00that they saw him at his best they saw him at his worst and limit samples and as talented as
08:05robert
08:05is how much of a needle mover can he be for a club if you can't bank on him as
08:10a certainty with hell
08:11that's something that the mets need to live and learn from and i'm glad that they're at least doing that
08:15now even though it's too little too late yeah i think the other thing and the last thing i'll say
08:19on
08:19this before we move on um i think that you also have to look at this in a way that
08:25the decision
08:27to let him go not only tells us how they viewed him morty it also tells you a lot about
08:33how they view
08:34what they believe is the future of the outfield with carson bench and aj ewing right now right the
08:39upside of those guys you don't want to take away at bats and reps for those guys in the outfield
08:44and i
08:44don't think that should get lost in this discussion either um you have two young outfielders emerging
08:50and to your point thank god david stearns did not maybe include aj ewing in the trade last year
08:55when he probably felt the price was too high of what he would want to pay to bring in luis
09:00robert jr
09:01um so look i listen i'll put like this too i wish him the best but i think for the
09:09mets to even
09:09get off of him and the money and save the money and a time when many people probably thought oh
09:15this is just going to be a sunk cost and it already was and sometimes things are what they are
09:18and i'm
09:19a big fan of sometimes just moving on this is what it is but i think the thing that you
09:24should be
09:24excited about if you're a mets fan about this move is like okay you know what your outfield is going
09:29forward you understand this is going to be carson bench aj ewing and juan soto who also we think
09:34eventually is going to transition to playing a lot more dh um as well unless something unexpected
09:41happen like the mets make a trade and upgrade an outfield or something to that nature which we
09:45don't know will happen in the offseason but i think that's the thing this solidifies what at
09:49least we think the mets outfield should look like going forward and if you're a mets fan you should be
09:55excited about that because i don't know too many mets fans it ain't warty and it sure wasn't me that
10:02it was going to be like hey you know we want more of next year luis robert jr i that
10:07that that just
10:09that wasn't something i think the fan base was was clamoring for at all whatsoever so with that being
10:15said warty because you you sat here and said hey you think this sort of is a microcosm of what
10:23went wrong
10:24in the 2026 offseason to transition this to looking ahead to the mets offseason
10:32what lessons do you believe david stern should take from we're going to call the failed offseason
10:39of 2026 going into 2026 for the 2026 roster the failed 2026 roster that's what i'll call it what
10:45lessons do you think are the most important that david stern should have took away from things that
10:50didn't work with this roster this year let's start with number one contrary to the contrary to the fact
10:57that david is probably the richest president in baseball currently or most certainly up there in
11:02the top three category he needs to put his ego aside and he needs to understand that when things
11:08aren't working you need to adapt and he has still struggled mightily to adapt in a way that's conducive
11:13for this market he needs to have the self-reflection to realize that he has not not only gotten the
11:18job
11:18done but he has quite quickly changed the narrative so much on himself and this organization where
11:25he was put on a pedestal for rightful reason for years before even being hired here and in order
11:30to write the runs that he's done he needs to stop operating the way that he is he needs to
11:35make
11:36adjustments and in doing those adjustments it goes in direct to him with the conversation that we had
11:40last week decks and that is to hire someone as a general manager to either lessen the workload or
11:46actually properly balance having a more either mlb mind of someone who's a former player cough cough
11:54annie green soon to bgm or someone else externally that they could go ahead and consider it needs to
11:59be someone that is not only going to bring a voice and direction separate from david it'll help balance
12:05the difference between the numbers on the eye test but it's the feel i mean david's lack of feel is
12:10the
12:10most concerning thing about him as president of this organization you would think that for a diehard
12:14mets fan growing up from new york that always dreamed to have the position that he's in now that he
12:19would
12:20have had a better handle but the lack of feel certainly been there uh the misses has been
12:24there in off seasons as well so having more not even proactivity having more gall to go all in on
12:33players are worthy to do so i mean that's something that go ahead no no you said something i want
12:38to
12:38ask you i'm very curious because for you because you you hesitated from using the word proactivity
12:43which you've used a ton this season and to be honest in spring training when we were we started
12:48doing the show together has anything that he's done in season this season like bringing up aj ewing
12:55right is that giving you any excitement maybe for the offseason that he can maybe show a little bit
13:04more gall is is anything that's happened in this season that makes you say you know what i feel better
13:08going this offseason that he might be different from last offseason not in what he's done during the
13:13season and here's why uh it's very easy for someone in his position to see the team collapse in front
13:19of him and say oh you know what we should probably we should probably change some things up here you
13:23know what i mean like we're already at a playoffs and it's what april 14th um like that that's where
13:29i i kind of have it drawn where i'm more so referring to his lack of effectiveness in negotiations
13:36like i understand the dodgers are the dodgers i also understand they're currently dealing with the
13:41federal investigation with the majority owner and mark walter that's a completely separate discussion
13:44that we should have soon later doesn't change the fact that whether it's the dodgers or other teams
13:50for players that clearly are a fit here that should be here there's been a lack of aggressiveness by
13:57david stearns to make sure that they stay here and the lack of foresight and understanding what the
14:03mets have to sell to a player versus what the dodgers the blue jays or other top contending teams
14:09of baseball in many cases is night and day steve cohen bought the team knowing that the only thing
14:14he could really flex was the financial muscle and club hospitality that is all this organization has
14:20they don't have history they don't have anything that would actually draw you here they don't have
14:24location i listen flushing queens is nice but let's not act like it's the same as if you're going to
14:30be
14:30in you know sunny la or san diego mind you which i i will always worry about san diego any
14:35chance i get it
14:35any opportunity i get a chance to the point here is is that when there isn't much added incentive for
14:42a player to go out of their way to hit a big market as is like new york with the
14:45mets you need to up
14:46the ante and upping the ante is doing exactly what steve cohen is here for it's spending the big
14:51dollars it's separating yourself from the rest of the pack and david has chosen not to do that when we
14:55think of the edwin diaz conversations both are at fault right edwin wanted to be a daughter and we also
15:01saw david not put him in a position where it was like we're going to give you a contract you
15:06simply
15:06can't refuse in hindsight no one's complaining right now because edwin's more focused on his cock
15:12fighting than he is actual baseball not not worried about that when we talk about the other things
15:17where maybe david's fallen short kyle tucker again another move that we're grateful did not happen
15:22in hindsight if kyle can't handle the pressure in la what makes you think he's gonna handle
15:26fleshing queens not a chance in hell okay doesn't change the fact though that there was a valiant
15:31effort there then we think of pete alonzo we think about the guy that david was on the high horse
15:35so
15:36consistently on but this is not someone that is conducive for our future he doesn't profile well
15:41defensively and base running i don't care that he's the home homegrown talent i don't care that
15:46he's our home run king at the end of the day we need more stability there and not only for
15:51him to
15:52allow alonzo to walk on a contract that while i understand looks like an overpay i also understand
15:58something that the mets could have done if they actually wanted to do and they chose not to do it
16:01i also understand that instead of replacing alonzo properly if it wasn't for jared young and being here
16:08for another year the mets still have statistically the worst first base position in all baseball
16:13from defensive metrics to offensive output so and mind you this is with jared young cracking the team
16:21literally in the final hour before opening day along with i with one of the other players zach
16:26short or whoever it was i don't know short wasn't here yet it was him and someone else but my
16:30point
16:30here is that he didn't even build a roster in a way where he was expecting jared young to be
16:35that guy
16:35he thought it was going to be jorge palanca which brings us back to our point at the top of
16:39our
16:40discussion today dex when we talk about the examples on where david's fallen short again no greater one
16:45than palanca obviously to have the i to have the nerve to think that that was ever going to work
16:51for someone that 70 reps at dh last year because he's dealt with injuries for the past four or five
16:57years of his career where where is the understanding of what's right in front of you why are you trying
17:03to read in between the lines when literally the paper says do not put this player in this position
17:09do not rely on these guys for these spots and yet david did exactly that that's where that's where
17:15the word used before you talk about ego right and and i think it's an interesting word to use there
17:20a
17:21choice to to talk about it and check in stop thinking you're the smartest guy in the room david
17:24it's abundantly clear you're not not saying that i mean that honestly right not saying that i know that
17:29that's his get down or how he acts or anything like that but what here's what i will say
17:34on on for me about what he's got to learn a couple things you can't make too many wild bets
17:42at once
17:43which is what i'm going to say okay it's okay to take a calculated risk in an off season
17:48sometimes you're going to hit sometimes you're not right you can take a risk on luis robert jr
17:53we just talked about the top of the show maybe i would not have taken a risk on jorge palanco
17:59and i don't think wardy would have either boba shett was also a risk in terms of changing
18:04positions right you can also say and this was something you harped on it hugely in spring training
18:10to camp well what about the rotation construction it's really unconventional right you're banking on
18:17a lot of what ifs with guys here you can't have as many of those bets on a roster at
18:25the same time
18:26to me that just doesn't work like i think in a season nothing is going to go perfectly this is
18:33not like you're playing the show with no injuries this isn't how this works things are going to go
18:38wrong nothing is perfect you can survive a couple of things going wrong you can possibly survive two
18:44or three things going on juan soto goes down with an injury francisco lindora goes down with an injury
18:48those are two things i'm just mentioning that happened at the top of the season right that is me not
18:52even saying jory palanco is going to get hurt and doesn't produce that is not even me mentioning
18:57luis robert doesn't hurt boba shett who's come around struggled in the field and at the plate early
19:03on right but that sort of righted himself the point that i think we are both making here is
19:10the 2026 mets they needed too many things to go right there was too many if this doesn't happen
19:16then this should happen david stearns cannot go into the offseason with that kind of mentality
19:21and my other point i will add to that my friend please please please david stearns understand
19:30availability and durability is a skill and it is something you have to respect when it comes to
19:37roster construction right you can't just say ah yeah or palanco you know i was getting 70 percent of
19:44his reps at dh that that's a dh last year because he was unhealthy louis robert jr he hasn't played
19:50a full
19:51season yeah i'm gonna bank on that because if those guys hit then it's gonna be great value sure
19:56it would have been if it but then what happens when it doesn't what happens when you're banking on too
20:01many ifs value the i was gonna say dex again you're banking on too many ifs it's it's it's okay
20:09if you
20:09have like one or two but the majority is okay you can't have it where the majority of the moves
20:15you make
20:15in an offseason it's all guys where it's like guys if they stay healthy they put it all together
20:21we might be good you know like that's terrible because you have to you have to balance the four
20:27versus the ceiling again the lack the lack of understanding with that with david is just so
20:33perplexing to me but that's why i hope god willing that to our point here what can he do differently
20:39this offseason dex it's exactly that just learn from your mistakes mistakes like this is it we're
20:44entering year three now bud like this is this is put up or shut up okay like this is the
20:49fact that
20:50he's even in position to be president next year is something that there are fans having pushback with
20:55which to an extent i understand like you can't i think i think he i think it's fine to have
21:01him start
21:01next year as president i think it's fine because it's time to again see how he can be compatible
21:06potentially with the gm because let's not forget the mets wanted that from the start of the inception
21:11of all this you know so while yes it's been frustrating with david if there's anything that
21:17you could maybe give somewhat benefit of the doubt if you want to do anything you could say well this
21:23was also not exactly how david thought he was going to be the front office right away he thought he
21:27was
21:27going to be working with some of the more one-on-one to handle decisions you know where yes they
21:31have to
21:32go through him at the end but it'll be a collaborative effort instead it's been more of a
21:36collaborative effort of more of david's and don't misquote me as i state this when i say more yes
21:42men of people that he's worked with during their time in milwaukee and others people that he already
21:46has great familiarity with and maybe aren't right nobody is going to push him really that's that's
21:51what i'm saying and i don't want to speak on things i don't know maybe he has gotten a lot
21:54of pushback
21:55when having these internal debates in the front office and you know they're just things that we don't
21:59know publicly but again when you see the same mistakes being had it's either he's not getting
22:05pushed back or he again is like relax i got i got this but you know you don't got it
22:11david you don't
22:12get you you don't got it well if you don't understand you don't got it right and he's got to
22:16prove it to
22:16that's why i love that one of your points for the offseason was simply you wanted to think i think
22:21was your second thing you said like hire the gm right and have a more collaborative approach is
22:26something steve cohen said he's wanted we'll see if that'll happen which then brings me to the
22:31thing we could talk about david stern said no i'm saying we don't want to go too long on that
22:34but i think the big question for fans is offseason and i'm sure we're going to get into a lot
22:38of this
22:38once the we get past september all right what current players should be part of the next competitive
22:46mets team because we saw guys go away at the trade deadline we saw the mets have a huge sale
22:52and i don't know about you wardy but i like to try to put things in tiers and i think
22:57the tier one
22:58of players for the mets i'll call this the unquestioned foundation tier it's obviously juan soto
23:04i know some of you guys might not agree my next person here in francisco lindor because there's some
23:09fans that want him gone oh how dare you dex yeah i you know who else i'm gonna put in
23:14this tier
23:15i think carson benji's in this tier now you with me okay so you're with me on this you rock
23:20with me
23:20on this um bench to me has already established himself as i would say the number three position
23:28player behind soto and lindor is that crazy boba shett's on this team and we're saying this
23:33confidently is that crazy that is crazy but you should be excited about this if you're a mets fan
23:38for sure yeah if somebody disagrees with me let me know but i just feel like benji's two-way
23:42ability i'm not ignoring this and doing this as a rookie now he's got to prove that and do that
23:46again in 2027 as adjustments are made to him in the league no doubt about that but for me he's
23:53in
23:53that unquestioned foundation then for me and again wardy please if there's anything you don't agree
23:59with me on this let me know the next tier i'll say is i'm going to talk about young players
24:05that
24:06should be complementary maybe you don't build around them but you build with them right right
24:13i think that's aj ewing put him in that in that tier put nolan mclean in that tier
24:22you so start at the top you put aj ewing in the tier of what exactly what did you just
24:26say
24:26players that the young players you don't they're not necessarily you build around them but you build
24:33with them young players who are good supporting pieces if if we were going on on those tiers yeah
24:39i would say i would have nolan at the top of the pack i think he's the you know above
24:44because i could
24:45see him moving into that one that tier one i could see that i you could you could argue honestly
24:50you
24:51could you can make the argument that nolan's there as well i mean he's going to finish here with around
24:54a three or eight 200 strikeouts and he's going to get saiyan votes and rookie year votes okay so yeah
24:59i definitely think he can be in either category but let's just let's just stick with uh this branch
25:03that you made here and we'll have nolan aj's in that conversation but there's an asterisk with aj
25:07that we'll get into in a second as well as zach thornton i think jack's in there i think i
25:14think the
25:14youngsters i've been blossoming deserve to be in that conversation where are we putting francisco
25:18alvarez francisco alvarez has sadly entered the replaceable category of the new york mets unfortunately
25:28he has and i'm not happy to say it but it's true all right so let me just i'm with
25:35you on this
25:37and i agree with you also that mcclain you can argue he gets up to that one tier but the
25:41question
25:42is some people see him as a two starter is he an ace i i think there's a room for
25:47a little bit
25:47of growth but i have no problems who wants to put him in tier one
25:52any other young players that you think deserve to be in tier two
25:59i'm trying to think are we missing anyone i don't think so there's only been there's only
26:02been a handful of guys that blossom scott yeah i taught christian scott he deserves to be in that
26:07category i know christian hasn't had the most steady season that we've seen in effectiveness but the
26:13stuff is there and that's like the main takeaways like this is his first true full season at the big
26:18league level having returned from reconstructive tommy john i've been very encouraged with many
26:22for scott it comes down to the strike zone with him with commanding you know the walk ratio we know
26:26that but the stuff's there like i think christian scott has all the making to be an ace caliber
26:31starter for the mets if not at least you know or two or three to pair with nolan like he's
26:36he's
26:36honestly been one that i've been perfectly content with whatever's happened this year given the early
26:41stats of the club but also knowing that the mets have multiple young stars blossoming like for what
26:46christian falls short on guys like zach uh zach thornton and no mcclain are picking up which has
26:52been nice yeah i think christian scott it's it's even interesting you have christian scott already
26:57in this tier and have francisco alvarez out of this tier and i think what we're seeing what i'm saying
27:03with this tier at least the way i thought about trying to break it up is that you don't need
27:07all
27:07these players to become a star but it can they complement the roster right well can they complement
27:12the other stars on this team well um listen ewing's got potential to be a quality everyday
27:19center fielder um can zach thornton be a dependable three or four starter i think so i've been very
27:25encouraged with what we've seen from him um yeah where i we're gonna get to this let's go to next
27:33tier because i'm gonna drop to this because you've put alvarez in the replaceable tier i will call this
27:37also the players who face difficult decisions next year which we got to talk about right these are
27:46this is galvarez bo bichette this is tough decisions we're talking about here just to be
27:54very clear people i think bo's pretty clear-cut actually but wait clear-cut in the decision or
28:02clear-cut in the tier you want him in clear-cut and like what his future is like i boat
28:08bo bichette
28:09i'm very confident he will be in new york met next season and that's out of the mets control so
28:14we
28:14should probably put him in the tier of like you know guys that were kind of you know building around
28:19at least in the interim you know he may not be here long term he probably won't be here long
28:23term
28:23but like he is someone that we need to factor and he's gonna likely be the mets starting third
28:27baseman next season barring changes fair i'm i'm fair with that he's honestly the only unique one
28:32out of this group because he's like he's really good but he's probably not going to be here long
28:36regardless right he's played well enough that you think he will opt in and be back next year and
28:43then try to play for a better contract past that i'd agree with that marcus simian difficult i don't
28:50think i personally don't think the difficult decision is difficult i don't think it is but i think
28:55there's a decision to be made yeah i mean i yeah whatever you want to quantify as difficult you
29:00could put him in that category sure but i think it's just it's malpractice if he's on this roster
29:05by time whenever next season begins it's not again it's just so obvious like listen steve cohen
29:10doesn't enjoy having to eat millions of dollars of you know dead contracts but there's any owner in
29:15baseball that can handle it without you know thinking twice it's him so and when you have the guys
29:21knocking on the door at second base the way that the mets do literally have a nice little
29:25line little conga line thanks to the traded line you know you got it you have to you have to
29:30factor
29:30that into your plans next season absolutely couldn't i think the decision is there to be made whether you
29:35think it's difficult or not that's on you i think i think we know what the decision is if the
29:39mets make
29:39it difficult i'll be far from surprised but it will definitely be disappointing because it shows you
29:44that they're still not thinking the way that they should be thinking yeah be proactive on this one
29:49that's just do that vientos again i'll put in the i don't think this is a difficult decision but
29:55there's a decision that has to be made speaking of vientos should we lump in our our conversation
30:00on mark or should we wait until after this hold that we'll get to him in a second hold that
30:03you got
30:04it but um yeah yeah i think he's another one he's not he's not a difficult decision at all i
30:09i mean i
30:09think any green's remarks this season i've been telling that's not a difficult decision it's it's in
30:14mark's best interest to be parted with and go to an organization that will give him more runway
30:19because i think that there are teams that'll see that sample in 2024 and up and say hey you know
30:23we have a ballpark that's more conducive to you having success here meaning it's more of a small
30:27market team potentially that has been more of a band box like there's more there's a handful of
30:31teams i think of that i could see vientos going to and thriving and then we have to deal with
30:35the
30:35fans saying oh we gave up on mark too soon this and that but i'm like god understand some players
30:41just don't fit with certain organizations especially based on the roster that you build
30:45and mark is this one he's he's in no man's land right now i mean that's that's the easiest way
30:50to
30:50which is crazy to say because any year that you don't have pete alonzo and the mets have had such
30:56poor execution at first base for the first half you wouldn't think that but again jared young is
31:01under contract next year are you taking that bats away from jared young i know i'm not not right now
31:06at
31:06least not for mark yet for someone that's that for someone that's an upgrade above jared sure
31:13absolutely absolutely yeah we want to win but you can't do that let's do a couple more here in this
31:18tier i'm curious from you brett baby yeah brett brett you can maybe put in a somewhat difficult just
31:26because of the versatility that he brings but i really don't think it's that difficult because at
31:31the end of the day this front office this player development staff scouting these are all for the
31:36most part people that didn't really have their hands on brett baby this was you know he's not
31:40this again when we think of the vientos is the babies the alvarez is the role the baby mets movement
31:46that has come and went i mean that that's a distant memory as far as i'm concerned right now i
31:51mean
31:51ronnie maricio is still alive he's there in triple a but you know you're you know he doesn't have a
31:55future here right now either so yeah for brett he falls definitely in that category of maybe
31:59somewhat difficult but he's someone too that is not a new york met next season should not surprise
32:05anyone no wouldn't be shocked uh two more uh well my boy kodai senga kodai
32:16he's he's actually you know what kodai is actually a difficult conversation it is you want to go he's a
32:23yeah he's he's entered a difficult category but that's the most actual difficult one i think we've had in
32:29this group so far because what he's performed as a reliever has been so pronounced in a short period
32:34of time that warrants the discussion like he just had himself another good outing that we saw the
32:39past day or so and you know the only bad the only time he's looked bad so far really was
32:43pitching on
32:43back-to-back days for the first time in his career no dog kodai senga isn't gonna look good on
32:47back-to-back
32:47days we had a six-man rotation with him for literally the majority of the time he was here
32:51for the rest do you think right he's gonna handle back-to-back fine sure but but again this is
32:56why
32:56you do it at this juncture in the year if you're andy green you gotta see what works and what
33:00doesn't
33:00this is now the time because you're not going to have time at the start of next year when the
33:05expectation is to make playoffs you can't be twiddling your thumbs and playing with this bullpen
33:09like it's a video game you know the way that david loves to do we can't be doing that the
33:14way that
33:14they have the decision for me is i'm done with him as a starter i don't if it's me i
33:19don't need to
33:19should never be a starter in this rotation again i agree now do you want to pay him 15 million
33:24dollars next year to be a high leverage reliever my answer is like if that's the value you can get
33:31out of him and he could be a good setup guy a thinning guy you do it who cares i
33:36mean and i'm
33:37saying that because it's not my money but if he's pitching well he's comfortable and he can help the
33:41team win in this role he's valuable in that role sure is he overpaid for that role yeah you could
33:45argue
33:46that but you already have him under contract so if you turn him into something else and you've seen
33:52that towards the end of the year i think that's a good thing for the mets so to me if
33:55he continues
33:56to pitch well through september out of the pen absolutely spring training but i i don't kodai
34:01senga and starting i know that's my boy i understand all that can't we can't see it anymore two more
34:08pitches for you one in the pen one starting shamanai
34:13shamanai isn't difficult the only thing that's difficult about him is the fact that the mets
34:18have him tied down to well that's yeah right well that's difficult about it yeah that's that's that's
34:25the challenging part about it it's the years on the contract here now he's pitched better after a
34:31rough start um he's come back down to reality lately but yeah he's been able to give them length which
34:36has
34:36been nice to see the second half i think shamanai you know he's it's it's a difficult it's not a
34:42difficult decision it's a difficult reality for the mets is is i the best way to quantify and here's
34:47why because they have 25 million dollars invested in him for the final year of his contract roughly
34:52no one's going to take that even if the mets say we'll eat the majority no one's going to take
34:56it
34:56more than likely especially with the penny lockout and everything with all the up in the air about
35:00financial stats beyond the 2027 season teams are likely not going to be saying you know what i should
35:05give a shot to the tribal chief today you know what this what the dollars that he's making it
35:09ain't gonna happen so what what the likely outcome is going to be barring changes from now until
35:14whatever next season happens is benai will be on the team but he'll be in kind of this tobias myers
35:18role
35:19where he won't necessarily be a lock in the rotation and if he is that shows you more malpractice
35:24by david stearns because he says you know we got terrick school at home you know and we and we
35:28can't
35:28have that happen obviously so again out with the brody van wagon and notion that oh you know our best
35:33acquisition is a guy that's already been here and let's get in with the times so i think it's a
35:38difficult reality difficult reality i like that because that's a lot of money invested when they
35:45have north of 300 invested in the club as is next year and like he's he's he's a factor as
35:50to why
35:50that's a problem right and you hate the fact that it takes up so much or even potentially a rotation
35:55spot for a younger pitcher who you could be bringing up to develop it's you're right the reality is
35:59difficult for the team uh there the devin williams is he in this conversation too yes yes another very
36:06difficult situation with devin i i actually think he's up there with sanga when it comes to like
36:11that's doing a very difficult decision as to like what are they going to do with him in the sense
36:15of
36:16if sanga continues to thrive as a closer down the stretch here and devin obviously has the stuff we
36:22know he does but handling this market and finding consistency is just something that he has not been
36:26able to do since leaving milwaukee a couple years ago so for him it's it's a difficult decision in
36:31the sense as to what is his role going to be are the mets going to start next season with
36:35him as
36:36their guy as their closer is he going to impress enough in spring to warrant that are they going
36:40to kind of do it where it's survival of the fittest basically where they do multiple options from
36:44devin to sanga to whoever and then basically whoever impresses the most maybe the first month sample
36:51will warrant who's going to get more consistent runway at that position that's my thought process now
36:55because while devin's making the money if you're giving sanga 15 mil next year to be your reliever
37:00it really doesn't mean all that money there's no difference there then right you're paying two
37:03guys top dollar to be your back end relievers who is going to be more effective in the spot that
37:09most
37:10warrants those dollars to be spent so that is going to be a key question for the mets to figure
37:15out
37:15with devin with sanga and others as we get into 2027 the money that's why the money's fascinating that's
37:20why the question i asked is you know when you break down these tiers you look at all these players
37:24is you
37:24really got to think about who's going to be part of the really good next mets team right and fans
37:30are
37:30hoping that's going to be next season but you don't know who that's going to be a couple things we're
37:34going to hit before we get to september call-ups which i want to talk about um
37:40you're looking at this offseason still just warty i think there are three positions that the mets
37:47absolutely have to upgrade absolutely have to upgrade you think all right the first one is one
37:53you've mentioned a bunch first base i'm going to put it bluntly like this
38:02jorge polanco we thank you for your service
38:06we ain't really trying to see you no more we're not trying to live that life anymore at first base
38:11nope there must be an upgrade there they've got to get some in the middle of the order power they
38:17lost with pete alonzo um i know that's a sore spot but this is what you need you need an
38:24upgrade over
38:24jared in the sense of your if you're pushing for a championship so i think young can be part of
38:29a
38:29championship team or a playoff team absolutely but i think it would be it goes without saying it
38:34would be most optimal to have him in a role where you don't need to bank on him to be
38:38that guy
38:38like he's impressed in a year that's been lost right you bank on i don't know if he's that dude
38:43man exactly you you bank on him next season say hypothetically and then he isn't that guy when
38:49you have a higher expectation then you have a major problem same thing i just want to go on the
38:53smallest tangent i have an asterisk with aj ewing this is what i mean aj has aj's hit below the
38:59mendoza line for the past like 40 50 games or so right it's been a good stretch of him not
39:03playing
39:04good baseball i'm not concerned about it at all in the long run of things he's 21 he's had a
39:09fantastic rookie season for a guy that we didn't necessarily think out of camp would be impacting
39:14the mets to the degree that he has at least many people who have you know been paying attention
39:18didn't think that right away my thing with aj however is the fact that you can't bank on a rookie
39:25breakout as a certainty especially when you have multiple rookies in your outfield next year
39:31i love carson benja death but the sophomore hangover is a real thing and it happens to some
39:36of the top towns and just like the guy who i love in referencing jack somero from his rookie year
39:42he too has not been able to be that exact player since then since that rookie year for the padres
39:48between the injuries and inconsistencies so if you go into next year and bank on benjen ewing to be a
39:54sure-fired guaranteed thing you will yet again shoot yourself in the foot because there's too much
39:59uncertainty there the mets like this i like this point they they have to add an outfielder in some
40:05form or fashion that can be a proper balance with the youth movement and soto who will split time from
40:12the outfield to dh they need someone that they can rely upon that is not louise robert is what so
40:16is
40:16this is that one of your three positions they absolutely got to upgrade outfield i do yes i think
40:21the mets absolutely need an outfielder to add it doesn't need to be a sexy name per se but it
40:26needs
40:26someone that brings stability that is willing to come here that the mets either trade for they
40:30probably should trade for them because you know how many guys are going to be like oh i want to
40:34do
40:34this with the new york mets when maybe i'm not going to guarantee to play every day you need someone
40:38that
40:38can come in that's an upgrade over the tyron taylors that is an upgrade over the roberts in the sense
40:42of
40:42health and can be in there almost every day but you get creative because my thought process for a
40:47while and robert was that if he comes back to the mets next year they're going to get creative
40:51he'll play mostly every day but he'll get some reps at dh maybe you know he'll get an outfield
40:55start here or there like they have to do something along those lines because if aj is batting say the
41:02mendoza line for the first half of next year let's say god forbid huge sophomore slump for aj at the
41:07young age of 22 just doesn't have it great defense great base running but he's looking more of a
41:11fourth outfield profile because the hit tools just dropped off for whatever reason what's the
41:17that's backup plan right who's is it nick morbido is morbido gonna dominate for the final month that
41:22we'll get into maybe but like i don't know how to see how he hits the thing exactly there you
41:28you see
41:28what i'm saying dex when it comes to uncertainty but if you do that i'm trying to avoid we'll get
41:33to morbido in one second i do like that you brought him up if you do that to your point
41:37now you're banking
41:37on three young outfielders out of your your four-man outfield rotation right like that's not ideal for
41:43you if you're the mets it's not what you really want to do so i like the point about
41:47outfield is a position they should upgrade i think the other thing we both agree on here right
41:51front line starting pitching they got to get a front line starter in here i don't know who that
41:57is will the mets really be able to go after it's a week scuba i don't know but they need
42:03to get a
42:04front line starting pitch and i think they need to take pressure off of guys that are ascending like
42:08a mcclain like a zach thornton you don't want too much pressure on those guys going to next year the
42:13same way you're saying about the outfield where it's like hey you've got to anchor this
42:16rotation you've got to hold it down that's not what you want um we love the development of those
42:22guys but you need somebody to come in here and say hey this is the ace of the mets going
42:28forward
42:29and we feel good about that i'm not putting this in any order but i agree with you i don't
42:34think
42:35i don't think i quite thought about outfield in the way you did at first because i was going to
42:39say
42:39well also they're going to need a second baseman don't know where that's going to come from
42:44um do they need to upgrade it and relief do they need could they move a williams could they move
42:50a
42:50singa could they get a different high leverage reliever they think is better suited for new york
42:55that's interesting stuff i like outfield though now the more i think about with you i think i'm going
42:59frontline starter first baseman outfielder that's that's exactly what i would do because we know if
43:05the bullpen's ever changing so that can be in its own category but yeah you need you need one true
43:10frontline starter to parallel known you also need an outfielder that brings stability with the rest
43:16knowing they're still in certainty and you need the first baseman that also brings that stability
43:20where instead of being this polanco young dynamic where if say young's bat falls off you know you
43:26can't bank on polanco because he physically cannot play for space he's not even going to be healthy in
43:30time granted we're going to have a lockout most likely but he's not going to be healthy in time like
43:33there's a reality that polanco never plays a game for the mets again like this could be up there
43:37with frankie montas bad me you know and jed lowry category of a guy that you know is in the
43:42organization but you know is just always rehabbing and then bam the mets outright released him at some
43:46point after you know he collects his millions so i hope that isn't the case i'm just i'm foreseeing it
43:51right now all the more reason why you need to try to find stability stability stability stability is
43:56the word of the day not proactivity decks we're going with stability today i like this okay before we get
44:01real quick to uh september call-ups just to put a bow on the offseason stuff i think you and
44:09i we just
44:10talked about stability but i'm gonna go with another uh word that ends in ty availability right um
44:17durability would also be pretty dope do you think the mets should prioritize those things along with
44:24roster fit over connect collecting recognizable talent right you just don't want to say hey this is a
44:31name we know robert's a name we knew right you like the talent you like the upside it was recognizable
44:38but should this be at the top of david stearns's offseason plan durability roster fit over recognizable
44:47talent it's all those things dex you gotta i need i need david to just just pay attention like just
44:58absorb all that's happened what we just talked about and just slowly but surely correct these
45:04wrongs you know it doesn't i understand a guy in his position it's far more difficult than me
45:09yapping about it i completely get it but it doesn't change the fact that when you see things from a
45:13mile
45:14away and it's kind of common sense in baseball and how you should build and how you should prepare
45:20that's what i need david to do so to everything you just said from stability to everything else
45:25this just goes in hand with proper preparation for what a gauntlet of a 162 provides what a gauntlet
45:31of a 162 provides is so many highs and lows decks the amount of emotions that we go through in
45:36a
45:36single season the amount of injuries you go through the amount of guys that blossom that you weren't
45:41expecting to blossom and guys that fall short that you had high expectations for it's a constant
45:48reoccurring thing every single season so more than anything i just need david to recognize these things
45:52because it feels like he doesn't he hasn't recognized them nearly enough for someone in
45:56his position i think that's the major thing you know i'll put a ball in this the main thing i
46:01will
46:01we are going to get deep into offseason stuff already and i but the main thing i want to see
46:05this
46:05offseason i think warty hit the nail on the head what did you learn from last offseason life is about
46:11you know any job it's about growth what do we learn from one episode to the next for warty and
46:16i
46:16one thing you know what do you learn from one day to the next you want to grow you want
46:20to evolve
46:21you can hope the same out of your president of baseball operations there are mistakes that were
46:26made do i think there are correctable mistakes absolutely am i saying that it's easy to correct
46:31those mistakes no because i've also never done the job i don't want to sit here and act like somebody
46:34who's like yeah that's easy to do i do agree with you warty i think they're common sense things that
46:40can be correct yes some of them i i don't even want to go on the tangent anymore but it's
46:44really
46:44like baffling to me how we find ourselves in positions maybe maybe don't bank on a whole
46:49bunch of guys with a bad injury history maybe that's not the play that's not how you want to
46:54play this game we'll see all right let's try to give the fans a little bit of hope as we
46:58exit out
46:58of this episode we it is september we are here in september we are recording this on august 31st
47:06fans get excited about september call-ups it's not like it used to be we brought up a whole bunch
47:10of
47:10guys but now you get a couple of guys here we know that luis robert jr is out going to
47:16baltimore
47:17nick moribido will be calling coming up in his place a fourth outfield guy i said i think is a
47:22young player who could impact the mets in 2027 because of some of the versatility he provides he
47:28has not hit well here at the major league level we're now going to get to see if he can
47:32do that
47:33all signs are pointing to jonathan being the other call-up who's pitched extremely well over
47:43his last three to four starts so how excited are you warty about both of these players likely being
47:50the september call-up for the mets did you want to see anybody else get called up uh do you
47:55think
47:55we'll maybe see any other guys come up uh as maybe other guys you know rest towards the end of
48:00the
48:00season or you know nets make some other moves what do you think about morbido one and then it's not
48:06official yet but likely tong coming up for the to pitch for the mets here in september yeah the
48:12morbido one makes a lot of sense you know he's just filling the void for robert and he was always
48:16kind of that next man up in the outfield you know the mets have given the little leashes of the
48:19christian
48:20paches etc of the world now it's time to give nick an actual runway here for the final month of
48:24the
48:24season right when he was called up earlier this year um in place of uh austin slater basically as like
48:29that platoon when the mets were still trying to somewhat compete in the first half he was limited
48:33basically fourth outfield and that's it and got some at bats but not all that many now it's time
48:38to really give it morbido runway and and see what that can provide for him because he's had a very
48:43steady season in syracuse and he's just been a steady ball player i mean a former mets minor league uh
48:48position player of the year a couple years ago um still putting up steady numbers batting north of 260
48:52this year over 10 home runs we're looking at over 70 runs scored because he has over 40 stolen bases
48:57decks so when i think about the you know the base stealing threat and the speed that you have in
49:02aj and bench that continues with morbido they're all high flyers which is really entertaining to watch
49:06and then you add in obviously the head tools he's been batting right around league average of the 96
49:11wrc plus in syracuse this year and he's someone who while didn't he didn't do anything in the major
49:15league level when he was up here pretty limited sample so just give him give him some runway i'm
49:19looking forward to that you know he he also was solid he played for you know team middle name the
49:23wbc
49:24this year as they had their nice little run as well people forget that so you know he's he's had
49:28a very entertaining year across you know all different levels and he's someone who very well
49:32could be that outfielder for the mets in the future he could be their next tyron taylor if not greater
49:37where you know either fourth outfield type but someone that if you need him to start for a good
49:42stretch of games like he'll come in and do that well so i'm intrigued with morbido um i'm cautiously
49:46optimistic with him but i think at minimum you're getting fantastic defense fantastic base running
49:52and that's always a nice thing to see for a mets team that we've seen be far from athletic over
49:57the years it's nice to see them finally lean in onto their youth movement of guys that bring these
50:02multi-tool facets to their game especially with the legs lean the way uh then you get into going
50:07from nick morbido to jonathan uh ton i'm also very excited about just because he's made massive
50:13adjustments that we've seen over the past month and a half and that's what's now going to warrant the
50:16call he went you know seven brilliant innings for a complete game shutout on the iron pigs
50:20right by me here as a pa resident only one hit a couple days ago uh over his past four
50:25starts he's
50:25a 0.84 year ray um as someone who's dabbled with that cutter a lot this year that we talked
50:30about
50:30our friend ernest dub a couple episodes ago uh you know changing the volt on the vulcan change a bit
50:34and other things um it's fluctuating with success but it hasn't mean that ton hasn't been doing things
50:40right this year if that makes sense like a lot of it has really been just about building the arsenal
50:44and gaining that comfortability and he's absolutely deserving of the call now like you have
50:48nothing to lose if you're the mets for the final month of the year give ton a little bit of
50:52runway
50:52here and a lack of at that last year you throw him in the fire after dominating leading all the
50:58double
50:58a and all the minor leagues and strikeouts they basically call him at call him up after one start
51:02or so from syracuse and he had levels of success before shaking in his boots facing off against a
51:07grom which he can't follow him that's a big big life adjustment going from double a like a couple
51:12weeks prior basically but you know they threw him in the literal fire like the actual fire of um
51:19what do you call it the mets playoff push last year that isn't happening this time around and
51:24that's beneficial to ton let him pitch the way he wants to work on his game because this is far
51:30less
51:30on results as it is about comfortability getting everything aligned that you want as you look
51:34forward in 2027 ton's part of your future you know that so this isn't about hurting that future
51:39it's about further progressing his development this year above all so i'm excited to see ton what he can
51:45do again he's still got the lively fastball setting mid to high 90s and he's a very charismatic
51:49personality such a little kid in the sense that like you're like this kid is really on the mound
51:53dominating for the new york mets but yeah that's jonathan uh the canadian rocking you know his
51:57favorite uh treat which i think is what what's his favorite i think he loves maple syrup with fries
52:01and something along those lines you know just like all those canadian like poutine and all that stuff
52:05he's wild but i rock with jonathan and i'm excited to see more of him um and see again even
52:11if he gets
52:12rocked it's okay like it's it's not like there's the pressure added that oh we didn't make playoffs
52:17because we gave this kid a leash here right if he gets rocked let's figure out why was he just
52:21was he
52:22just locating too much over the heart of the plate because in syracuse he gave up over 20 home runs
52:26this
52:26year because in hand of exactly that just pounding the strike zone a lot but a lot of it would
52:31be middle
52:31middle and a lot of it would not get the swing and miss so how can he adjust the major
52:35league level
52:35we'll see but this is this should have mets fans excited because this is your future whether you
52:40like it or not these are things that we're trying to build upon as we get in the next season
52:44that's
52:44the most exciting aspect about these kind of call-ups in september i agree a lot of what you said
52:49rap here i'll just say uh morbido you know i again i think he can have impact come up hit
52:55decently
52:56i'm not asking him to tear the cover off the ball show that you can be a fourth outfielder i
53:00think
53:00that could be a legit role for him on this team next season um now that doesn't still mean the
53:06men should try to go and upgrade the outfield or maybe get a professional in here that can handle
53:10that fourth outfield role or maybe it is morbido we will see i think that's the thing as far as
53:14tom
53:15goes there's a long way from a video essay i did on him at the beginning of the season with
53:21ernest of
53:22to where he is now and we had concerns about him you know leaving the ball over the middle of
53:28the
53:28play too much playing too much in the strike zone not mixing up his pitches but he needed what he
53:33went through part of a player's journey is what you talked about last year coming up into the fire
53:37of a playoff race pitching in that right and there is value in that yes did he struggle the beginning
53:43of this year yes but you've seen lately in the last four starts when you said the era is a
53:47sub one
53:47era and how good he's been what does he learn from that experience what happened last year
53:53everything that happened this year and then moving towards this opportunity to pitch to major
53:57leagues i want to see how he handles it it's about the mental toughness if he does give up a
54:02home run
54:02here in september how's he bounce back in the next couple of bets those are the things that i look
54:07at
54:07with a young player here and i think it's two players that could be a part of the mets future
54:12but even more sooner than we may realize because these are two guys who are on my list that could
54:17impact the mets in 2027 that wonderful episode we had a couple uh shows ago with earnest dove
54:22we'll see but this is an interesting time for mets fans and look we took you through a road
54:26crossing we went from louise robert we went through what should the mets do this off season how can
54:31david stearns improve and we tried to leave y'all with a little bit of hope or just a little
54:34bit of
54:35hope uh i hate to be that guy to you know be the bearer of bad news there's one little
54:41thing that we
54:42have to talk and it's not as much hope as it is you know difficult reality you know that's
54:47mark vientos returning for the new york mets today right officially activated that we saw
54:52uh at the time i was talking right now and this comes after a three homer game against the iron
54:57pigs uh the phillies affiliate this past day at the time i was talking four home runs during that
55:01little rehab stint mark's excited to be back mets fans can't really state the same and i don't mean
55:06that as a rude thing i just mean as like what we've seen on social media they're like what do
55:10you
55:10mean you know he's back you know like that so for vientos it'll be interesting to see how much
55:15runway if at all he gets now for the mets moving forward uh any green very forthright as he stated
55:20himself with his remarks towards vientos stating that yeah we don't have a guaranteed role for you
55:25at all here you got to go out and make the most of it you know when you get those
55:29opportunities uh
55:30we're also going to be indicative as to we're only going to give you these opportunities if
55:34it's really warranted if someone is not performing well like if jerry young falls off a cliff the next
55:38month then mark vientos will get more runway otherwise it's going to be kind of few and far
55:43between so for marketing for his future for him you know i know mets fans aren't going to be happy
55:47when they see him get some reps at dh and potentially at first base but just understand that there's two
55:52schools of thought for the mets here it's a trying to see if you can figure out any type of
55:56value in
55:56him at this juncture in his career as a new york met that they can carry over in the offseason
56:00potentially be a trade instead of an outright dfa and also it's understanding that you know
56:06if this is vientos's you know final run with the club they also are maybe going to benefit him a
56:13little bit if he does thrive in his opportunities because even if they do outright dfa him as a
56:18state earlier in the show i really do think that mark vientos has tools that can thrive on a club
56:22in
56:23major league baseball i just don't believe it's going to be in a mets uniform anymore yeah i agree
56:29do i want to see much of him here in september nope nope right this isn't going to get me
56:34excited
56:35but he's here we'll see what he can do with his opportunities when they come i think andy green
56:40has set the expectations well before as we talked about in the last episode and uh we'll see what
56:44happens with mark vientos i'm going to stick to positivity so on that note it is time for us to
56:49wrap up this edition of straight out of flushing although mark vientos will be back with the club you do
56:55up jonathan and nick morbido to be a little bit excited about and let us know your thoughts what
56:59do you think about luis robert jr uh being put on waivers picked up by the orioles what does that
57:04say
57:04about the mets previous offseason are you excited about the mets upcoming offseason what do you think
57:10david sterns needs to do let us and wardy know write down in the comments let us know what you
57:15think
57:15also what do you think about the mets guys who are coming up to play in september are you excited
57:20about them do you believe that they can be part of the future and also please let us know we
57:24want to
57:24know from y'all do you think the future is bright because that's something we're going to really
57:29get into this offseason is the future bright i can't i can't i can't see that it's so dark in
57:36this room
57:36i can't see it hey wardy can't see the light at the end of the tunnel and if wardy can't
57:42see the light
57:42at the end of the tunnel he's not happy uh we don't want everybody to be in the dark uh
57:47so try to come
57:48straight out of flushing and get some light with us we we'll try to provide some light is what we'll
57:52try
57:53to do we'll try to we'll try to provide some light that is the great tyler ward aka wardy i'm
57:57dexter
57:58henry we'll catch you next time another edition of straight out of flushing peace
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