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Grant & Danny reflect on Adam Peters' comments yesterday, where he said the fans are passionate, but they haven't seen what they'll really be week one. Does he deserve benefit of the doubt?
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00:18One of the more interesting comments from the Peters Quinn presser yesterday
00:22to break down the first version of the 53-man roster
00:26came from the general manager, Adam Peters.
00:29This is what he said.
00:31I have a ton of confidence in this team.
00:33I have a ton of confidence in the coaching staff.
00:35And DQ alluded to it.
00:36We haven't done a whole lot in terms of showing what we're going to be doing,
00:41bless you, offensively and defensively.
00:44And there's been a lot of times where we haven't had our players out there,
00:48whether it's been in the games or even at practice.
00:50So I look back to how we did against the Dolphins
00:55and just seeing when we had the full arsenal of players up front,
01:01offensively, defensively, to seeing what we're capable of.
01:05And very confident in that.
01:07Like DQ just talked about with Jaden, where he's at
01:10and what he's going to be and having him back.
01:15Just the overall character of the men in that room
01:19and the level of coaching that we have, I'm very confident.
01:24And, you know, I think obviously your fans are passionate
01:31and you love to have passionate fans and that's great.
01:35But, you know, there's a lot of stuff that we're doing here
01:37that maybe they don't see and there's a lot of things
01:40that I'm really excited to see in a couple of weeks.
01:43We couldn't be more thrilled than to start our season
01:45when we're starting it and it's going to be a great challenge
01:47and we're looking forward to it.
01:49Passion is good.
01:50Fans are passionate.
01:52He went on to say, essentially,
01:54you don't know what we have ready to deploy
01:57and you haven't seen the good stuff yet.
01:59So I think my reaction to that is,
02:02and I'm not saying that he's miffed or bothered,
02:05but you can't be.
02:06You know, if you're Adam Peters, if you're Dan Quinn,
02:08if you're reading and everyone says they don't read anything,
02:10they don't hear anything, I never have believed any of that.
02:12But if you're the PR staff or anybody over at the building,
02:15you can't get upset over fans or the media
02:19or anybody on the outside being concerned or worried
02:23when your point is, we got a lot of secrets you guys don't know about yet.
02:26Cool.
02:27I hope you're right.
02:28I am not allowed to go into the layer where you hide all the missiles
02:31and the machines and the tanks that you're going to be rolling out there
02:35on the battlefield.
02:36So I hope you're right.
02:37I hope down there somewhere on the fourth floor where I'm not allowed to go,
02:40you just got a bunch of artillery and bullets and all kinds of stuff.
02:45I take your word for it.
02:47I took him saying that statement as scheme-based.
02:51We have not shown our offense.
02:52We have not shown our defense.
02:54We didn't really play anybody in the preseason.
02:57You guys are panicking about something that you don't need to panic about.
03:00That's what I took it to mean.
03:02Some fans, though, took it as more of a condescending,
03:06almost negative toward,
03:08you guys just don't have all the information, so relax.
03:12Relaxed in almost more of a negative way, I think.
03:15Yeah, because I think the answer that you heard
03:18and then the second part of it that you just said were both in there
03:21because the question was from Scott Abraham who was basically saying,
03:25hey, fans are worried.
03:26Fans are concerned.
03:27The tenor of the fan base is, oh, my God, right?
03:30Because everybody's hurt.
03:31The performance that we did see hasn't been particularly good.
03:35Starters played three plays,
03:37and this past weekend's game was terrible.
03:39Again, I know that it doesn't matter.
03:42But, again, a fan turns on the television,
03:44Washington's playing, and it looks awful.
03:45The reactions afterwards are, that's not up to our standard.
03:48That's awful.
03:49That's not who we are.
03:50Same thing with the practice with the Ravens.
03:53The recent data points are what?
03:55Joint practice with the Ravens, debacle.
03:57Preseason game.
03:58Again, a lot of guys that aren't going to be on the team, whatever.
04:00Which we don't know.
04:00One of the worst I've ever seen in my life.
04:02And there was another one.
04:03Oh, the Lions three plays with the starters didn't go well.
04:06I don't care much about that because it's a tiny sample,
04:08but it's the entire sample with the starters.
04:10Yeah.
04:10So, you get the, hey, here's why we should be confident.
04:13And these are good reasons.
04:14Bunch of scheme things that nobody's seen.
04:17Fact.
04:19Indisputable fact.
04:20Bunch of players that didn't play.
04:22We'll come back to that.
04:23Because that, to me, is two sides of the same coin.
04:26Bunch of players that didn't play.
04:27I'm going, yep, a bunch of guys that didn't play.
04:28We saw that last year and a bunch of guys that didn't play.
04:30And it didn't look real good.
04:31And a bunch of these guys are injured.
04:32They're just magically healthy.
04:34I'm worried about that.
04:35So, I don't think a bunch of guys didn't play necessarily was injury-related.
04:39I think that means you didn't see Jaden Daniels, who's our whiteout.
04:42You know what I mean?
04:43He fixes all of our problems.
04:44He's our Band-Aid.
04:45You didn't see Stephon Diggs.
04:47You didn't see Terry McLaurin.
04:48You didn't see Bill for a single snap.
04:51There's your core.
04:52You saw Chig make a couple catches.
04:54I don't even remember which game.
04:55The Detroit game, maybe.
04:55In one of the games he played and was effective.
04:59You didn't see the guys that are our best football players,
05:01I think is what he was saying, as if to say,
05:02we didn't deploy them.
05:03We didn't ask them to do anything.
05:05Right.
05:05And that's his saying, and that's why I'm confident.
05:09A fan could say, you did that last year and you were awful.
05:12The team was awful when you didn't play guys in the preseason.
05:15Plus, the injury part of it, I think, is part of this,
05:18where you had a bunch of guys that we haven't seen in a month and a half
05:21in a lot of cases.
05:22And then, so the last part is, appreciate you guys' passion.
05:25I appreciate the interest.
05:27We know better than you.
05:28Now, I think that's true, by the way.
05:30But it's still one of those, that quote's going to come back up.
05:33If they're 2-7 through a nine-game gauntlet to start this season,
05:38someone's going to bring that back up, and rightfully so.
05:40I totally agree with you on that.
05:42It's one of those Ron Rivera era, kind of Bruce Allen time period,
05:49cringeworthy comments on, you know, when you look at it,
05:51when you're 2-5 or whatever.
05:53Like, we know best, true, but the football games are coming,
05:57and you've got to be right, or else that's going to get used against you.
06:00Sure.
06:00But I think it is accurate to say, the part I care about is,
06:06nobody's seen our offense with David Blau.
06:07And he's going, it's going to be pretty good.
06:09And this is the thing.
06:10Nobody's seen this defense with Durante Jones, and it's going to be damn good.
06:13If you guys haven't seen the Brian Flores dial-up blitzes from the parking lot,
06:17put seven on the line of scrimmage, they're not going to know who's coming or going.
06:20When we couldn't get our calls right, we had the worst protection plan I've ever seen in my life.
06:24This is me speaking.
06:25Against the Vikings when it was 31-0, and, you know, Daniels was getting destroyed in the pocket.
06:31That's coming.
06:32The Eagles have to deal with that in Week 1.
06:34I think that's what he's saying.
06:35Now, to your point, there's a lot of pressure here for them to be right,
06:38and for them to look good.
06:39But I guess I just didn't take offense to it.
06:42It seems to me like some people took offense to that comment.
06:44Is that fair?
06:45Oh, 100%, yeah.
06:46Did you?
06:47I did.
06:48Now, again, I don't think it was meant that way.
06:50I don't think he's flipping a middle finger at the fans going,
06:52you idiots don't know anything, and we do.
06:54So what offense did you take?
06:54Again, it's mild.
06:56It's small, but it's the, they're there.
07:01It's okay.
07:02The grown-ups have it.
07:04There's a mixed bag.
07:05There's a mixed track record here over the last season plus.
07:10And until you have a Kansas City-style run, a Howie Roseman-type run,
07:15a John Schneider-type run,
07:17you don't just get to go, quiet down, concerned citizen.
07:20We're on top of this.
07:21You're standing in front of a burning building telling me nothing to see here.
07:24Right?
07:26So that's the part I kind of go, I don't love that.
07:28Again, I'm not, like, offended to the point I'm storming off of something or whatever,
07:31but I go, I don't like that.
07:33It's not something that I would do.
07:34I would go, the first part I think is totally fair, totally accurate,
07:39and the right thing to say, which is, we didn't show a ton.
07:43That's by design.
07:44There's a lot of things schematically that we're going to unveil.
07:47We're excited about our group.
07:49I think you can leave it there instead of saying, passion's great,
07:52but we know better than you.
07:53Because that's the last part, I'll never, I just don't like that.
07:56It's not how I'm wired.
07:58I'm not telling you how to think.
07:59I just didn't feel that when I listened to it.
08:01Because I think he's even saying, like, fans are passionate.
08:05I expect fans to have opinions.
08:07And essentially saying, that's okay.
08:09They're allowed to have those opinions.
08:11But they haven't seen anything that is in regular season mode yet.
08:16And I guess the only difference would be,
08:18I'm just waiting until the regular season to get upset.
08:21Whereas other people have already decided.
08:24I think this is my feeling on center as well.
08:26I don't think how they built the center position is that different
08:29than how most teams build the center position.
08:31You know, who were the centers on the teams that won the Super Bowl
08:34and lost in the Super Bowl last year?
08:36The Seahawks had a UDFA at center.
08:39The Patriots had a, you know, late round guy or whatever.
08:42The league just doesn't think that highly of the position.
08:45There's like three guys that make any real money at center.
08:47So how many teams have a really good backup center?
08:50Like two veterans and a guy that makes $9 million to be the backup center.
08:54My point is, it might backfire.
08:56When it does, I can't wait to be here.
08:59Then call on me.
09:00That sucked.
09:01Bad plan.
09:02I'm going to put an L in the column for center.
09:04But right now, this second, in a world I understand where we call balls and strikes,
09:09I don't know if it's a bad plan yet.
09:11It's not the plan I would do.
09:12But it's not like Matt Golbin's the starter.
09:15People are acting like Matt Golbin is the starter.
09:17The starter is the guy that started the last two games at the end of last year,
09:20was a starter on this team at the beginning of last year to another position,
09:23and started in the Super Bowl before on one of the best teams in the league.
09:27So I guess, going back to the original Adam Peters point,
09:31where they're hiding the good stuff, you haven't seen the good stuff yet,
09:34my point is, the games are coming.
09:37We'll get, like, I can't wait.
09:39I can't wait to see if they're right.
09:41But I heard that comment, and I knew right away, I was like,
09:44ooh, that feels Bruce Allen-y.
09:46That does feel like the old regime, in a sense.
09:50I just think it was not said in a way where, like,
09:53Bruce's comment would have been something along the lines of,
09:58how would he have done it differently?
09:59It would have been, fans are passionate, we appreciate that,
10:03but we know what we're doing.
10:05Yeah, we know our guys or something.
10:06That exact phrase, whereas Adam Peters is just going,
10:10here's what he should have said, maybe, that would have made you feel better.
10:13If all I saw was all the fans have seen, I would also be panicked right now.
10:19Then I'd go, yeah, perfect.
10:20But I see a lot more.
10:22Now, you would have hated that, because he's acknowledging that he's smarter
10:24and he's in the room, which is true, by the way.
10:26But people don't like to hear that, I guess.
10:27I don't know.
10:28But, yeah, I'm at every practice.
10:29Not me, personally.
10:30Adam Peters.
10:31I'm in the building every day.
10:32I see the roster every day.
10:34I know what the center position looks like on 31 other teams.
10:37Anything he says like that for an ethos establishment
10:40or for some credibility is going to come off poorly, I guess.
10:43The fact is, they just have to win.
10:45Because if they lose, you're going to get crushed for the comment.
10:48But if they win, we're going to look back in four weeks going,
10:50he was right.
10:52We hadn't seen the good stuff yet.
10:54Yeah, I mean, it's basically, when you say,
10:57we appreciate your passion,
10:59it's like the thing that you'd say to a child, right?
11:01I appreciate the question, buddy,
11:03or I appreciate that you want a dessert before dinner,
11:05but you can't have it, because I know better than you.
11:07Because that's how it comes across.
11:08To me, there's no way to avoid that.
11:10The first part of the explanation is a correct explanation.
11:14You have not seen the schemes.
11:16I have not.
11:16You're right.
11:17You have not seen all the personnel deployed.
11:19You're right.
11:19I have not.
11:20Now, again, we could quibble with that,
11:22that maybe you should have deployed them at some points in the preseason.
11:24You chose not to last year, and you sucked.
11:25But whatever.
11:26I think these are very valid things.
11:28But when you get to that last part,
11:30even though I don't think he meant it as like a thumbing his nose at the fans,
11:33like he's not sunning everybody,
11:35it inadvertently comes off as,
11:37your concerns are invalid because we know better.
11:40To me, there's no way around that.
11:41When you listen, when you read.
11:42Could it be your concerns are invalid because you're judging the D version of the team?
11:48Because that's how I view like a lot of the narrative right now.
11:51It's fair.
11:51We're judging the thing we've seen,
11:53which is nothing like the thing that is going to happen on.
11:56And I still don't think they're, you know,
11:58an 11 win team or anything.
11:59But the version of them that's going to play the Eagles has not been seen yet.
12:03Here's the quote.
12:04Obviously, our fans are passionate, and you love to have passionate fans.
12:07That's great.
12:08But there's a lot of stuff we're doing here that maybe they don't see,
12:11and a lot of things I'm excited to see in a couple weeks.
12:13True, true.
12:14Right.
12:15That is, you're passionate,
12:17and all that passion doesn't equate to the knowledge I have.
12:19I know better than you.
12:20That's all that is.
12:22But he does.
12:22I mean, he's the general manager.
12:23Of course he does.
12:24But, again, you're invalidating everybody's concern,
12:28and it may be invalid.
12:29As you said, time will tell.
12:31It's not the kind of thing I need someone after this tire fire of a preseason
12:35and training camp where everyone was hurt all the time despite nobody doing
12:39anything, despite all the days off we're doing Camp Quinn again,
12:42and the samples we got were terrible,
12:45and it's like your concerns are invalid after a 5-12 season.
12:49After a 5-12 season.
12:50Listen, if they were 12-5 last year and everyone was panicking,
12:54this makes more sense to me.
12:56Have a little more bravado.
12:57Yeah, they're acting like they're on easy street.
12:59We know.
13:00We got it.
13:01We took care of it.
13:02I don't trust you yet.
13:04I guess that's a huge part of it, too, for some fans.
13:06It's just the way that part comes across.
13:08If he just delivered the first part,
13:10I think I'm not angry at him or anything.
13:11I'm not calling for anything.
13:13You could hash it out with him at an evening with Adam Peters.
13:15I suppose I will.
13:16You're very upset with him on stage.
13:18106.7, the fan presenting.
13:19An evening with Adam Peters coming up on Thursday night
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13:28No, but I think this would go over a lot better
13:31if you kind of left it at the first part of the explanation,
13:34which is we're not going to tip our hand with schemes.
13:37Correct.
13:38You haven't seen everybody.
13:39And that, I think, is a good discussion point
13:41because we probably should have seen people a little bit more than we did.
13:43Isn't that what he said?
13:45Then he closes with,
13:47Yeah.
13:47Your passion's great.
13:48We know better.
13:49So you don't like the passion comment?
13:52It's invalidating anybody's concern.
13:54Right.
13:55I don't think his job is to sit there and validate the guy in Section 417
14:00who's got a hot take.
14:01I'm not saying it is.
14:01He's responding to a question about fans that are worried.
14:05And he's going,
14:06Shh, shh, shh.
14:07We got it.
14:08And that's how it comes across.
14:09The answer to his question is,
14:12Hey, man, fans are super worried.
14:15What do you think?
14:16And he's going,
14:17Yeah, they're very passionate.
14:18I understand that they're worried.
14:19They haven't seen our team yet.
14:21Our team's,
14:21The season starts September 13th.
14:23I think that's his answer.
14:25And that part of the answer is great.
14:27The last couple phrases of,
14:29or the last couple sentences,
14:31We really appreciate your passion.
14:33Thanks so much for caring.
14:35Your concerns are invalid because we know better than you.
14:37And they do know better than we do.
14:39But there's a condescension to that that I think is unavoidable.
14:42And you have to willfully push it aside and pretend it's not there.
14:46The first part of his answer is factually 100% accurate.
14:50There's no question about that.
14:52We did not see all the players in the preseason.
14:54Again, I think we should have seen them more.
14:55And I think you do too.
14:56And they didn't tip their hand for schemes.
14:58Totally correct.
14:59I completely disagree with how they did the preseason.
15:02100%.
15:03I disagree with how they did the training camp.
15:05I mean, I have more disagreements with what they do than agreements.
15:07When I hear this quote or his answer,
15:09I just don't have any issue.
15:12Because you cannot like it or want to hear it.
15:14Because the same way if someone just looks at me and is like,
15:17You're fat.
15:18I'm like,
15:19True.
15:20Socks.
15:21You're dead up in a few weeks.
15:22Our guy, Brian McNally,
15:23who spent a long time covering sports here in D.C.,
15:26Yeah.
15:26Quote Twitter this and said,
15:28My feelings exactly.
15:29He said,
15:29I'm just a guy who's covered lots of teams, good and bad.
15:31The bad ones always had an exec using the, quote,
15:34Things are happening that fans can't see bit.
15:36I would respectfully not say that.
15:39Yes, because I think those questions come when teams are playing badly.
15:43Does that make sense?
15:44No one's asking the Seattle Seahawks right now,
15:46Hey, fans are worried.
15:48Because what are you worried about?
15:50It's fair.
15:50So, of course,
15:52The execs speak like this,
15:53Because they're getting questions.
15:55And I like Scott Abraham,
15:56But I thought it was on August, whatever.
15:58It's kind of strange to be like,
15:59What hope do you have in the roster?
16:01On the 0-0 team that you just built?
16:04What hope do you have in the team?
16:06To me, that was a strange wording of a question.
16:08I'm not taking a shot at Scottie.
16:09I like Scottie.
16:10But like,
16:11If I'm Adam Peters,
16:12I don't know what the hope,
16:13The roster that I just built?
16:14What hope do I have?
16:15I get some hope here.
16:17Hopefully a lot.
16:18I just spent a lot of time crafting this roster.
16:21It's like a question you ask when they're 2-7.
16:24And the season's spiraling down the drain.
16:26Hey, fans are really upset.
16:28No one wants to go to the game this weekend.
16:29You guys got blown out by 30 this week.
16:31What hope do you have?
16:33For the 0-0 team that hasn't started the season yet?
16:36We got some hope.
16:37This is the time for a little bit of hope.
16:39800-636-1067.
16:41Grant and Danny on the fence.
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