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Prime Minister Andy Burnham has been urged to put his “devolution instincts into action” by making the devolution of policing to Wales a key part of talks with the First Minister next month.
Challenged by Plaid Cymru Westminster Leader Liz Saville Roberts MP at Prime Minister’s Questions, Mr Burnham committed to giving proposals from the Welsh Government “fair consideration” but stopped short of repeating his previous openness to devolving policing specifically.
During a visit to Wales alongside the Plaid Cymru Deputy First Minister, Sioned Williams MS, last week, the Prime Minister said he was “open” to devolving policing to Wales, arguing that he understood from his experience in Greater Manchester “how much you can do when you can really make policing right for the places and the people where you are”.
Plaid Cymru say the case for devolution of policing and justice is backed by years of evidence. The Thomas Commission (2019) recommended devolving policing and justice to create a more joined-up and accountable system, while the Independent Commission on the Constitutional Future of Wales (2024) found no convincing evidence against devolution.
The Brown Commission (2022) also concluded there was no constitutional reason why powers devolved to Scotland could not also be devolved to Wales.
During PMQs, he instead chose to speak of “more locally devolved power across Wales”, which is a matter for the Welsh Government.
Liz Saville Roberts said: “Our new Plaid Cymru Government has laid the foundations for change, showing what Wales can achieve with the powers we have.
“The Prime Minister says devolving powers means better public services, and I agree. But policing in Wales is still controlled from afar here in Westminster.
“So will he please put his devolution instincts into practice and confirm that devolving policing will be on the table when he meets the First Minister next month?”
The Prime Minister responded: “The approach I will take, Mr Speaker, and I say this to the Honourable Lady - and we did meet the Deputy First Minister last week - where proposals come from the Senedd Government, we will give them fair consideration.
“We do need to work together to get growth going. If that can be done with more locally devolved power across Wales, then I am absolutely ready to work with her and the First Minister on that.”
Speaking after the session, Liz Saville Roberts remarked: “The Prime Minister’s commitment to give the Welsh Government’s proposals fair consideration is welcome. It was disappointing, however, that he stopped short of repeating his openness to devolving policing specifically on the floor of the House.
“The Prime Minister should follow the weight of evidence, not the voices of devolution-sceptic Labour MPs in Westminster.
“Policing works hand in hand with health, housing and social care, all already devolved to Wales.”
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00:00Those who put themselves at risk for the safety of us and everybody else.
00:03Liz Stabble-Roberts.
00:07The Prime Minister says he puts devolution at the heart of his agenda, and I believe him.
00:14We both know that decisions are best made closer to the people they affect,
00:19but Wales still lacks the powers already available to Scotland and even to Greater Manchester.
00:26That cannot be right.
00:27So when he meets the First Minister next month, will he work with Ply Cymru to make good that devolution
00:34gap on policing,
00:36on the Crown Estate, on rail and the fiscal powers that Wales needs to build and prosper?
00:44I'm ready to have a constructive conversation with the First Minister, as I did when I met him in July
00:52in my first week in office.
00:55What I believe from my own experience, Madam Deputy Speaker, is that a form of local devolution in Wales and
01:01Scotland
01:02might further strengthen the economy, public services, and that's the point I'm making in relation to buses in Glasgow,
01:10but other services as well. Where power is too centralised and too remote, then sometimes poor decisions are made.
01:18My agenda is all about putting power in the hands of people at the community level, so that they can
01:23drive changes that are right for them.
01:25I think there's a model of local devolution that could be made to work in Scotland, in Wales, possibly in
01:31Northern Ireland,
01:32and I'm ready to support that, if that's what she so wishes.
01:36Fleur Anderson.
01:37Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker.
01:39Social media and the harm it does.

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