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Yesterday was a horrible game for the Commanders across the entire board. In this segment, The Sports Junkies give their initial reactions to Jayden Daniels’ horrific injury. What are your thoughts about Jayden Daniels’ disgusting injury?
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00:00The commander's latest loss, which turns out to be their 12th loss in their last 14 games.
00:07Grant Paulson pointed out they have won just two of their last 14 games.
00:13Those two wins are one win against the Giants, which was a 2-12 team,
00:18and another win against the Eagles when they were resting their starters.
00:23So that is what is happening here in Washington.
00:25But in this game, they lose 37-20.
00:27And there are so many things we can talk about from the offense rolling early,
00:35seeing some vintage Jaden Daniels, to the defense giving up 37 points,
00:40the secondary being woeful.
00:42But it starts with one decision, and that's to go for it at the end of the half,
00:47and then the injury, which happens after.
00:50Here's Dan Quinn talking about that decision.
00:52Looking back on it, at the one-yard line, we need touchdowns, John.
00:57And so I don't regret the call.
00:59Obviously, like, any time someone's injured, you play the what-if game.
01:02I don't think this is one of those times for me.
01:04I hate that it happened.
01:05I didn't see it.
01:06You guys may have stepped on Chris.
01:08I still haven't seen it yet.
01:09But I wasn't hesitant about going into that spot.
01:13I thought, man, like, we're going to be aggressive into this game against their offense.
01:17So I don't regret that, John.
01:19Obviously, the outcome sucks.
01:20But it wasn't a what-if.
01:22I wish I had done something differently.
01:24I don't mind his aggression there.
01:26I just hated the play call.
01:28Like, three seconds left, you know they're not running the ball.
01:30Why is he under center at that point?
01:32Well, they could have run the ball.
01:33That's the thing.
01:33You keep saying that.
01:34They could have run the ball.
01:35They were trying to speed options.
01:37It was over.
01:38It was one play and done.
01:39Yeah.
01:40You can't run the ball there.
01:42Yes, you can.
01:43It's your last play of the half.
01:44They decided they weren't going to kick the field goal there.
01:48So they were either going to score or they're going to have.
01:50It was their last play, Cakes.
01:50They couldn't run a play in two seconds.
01:52I'm saying you've got to pass the ball there.
01:54I mean, they probably were going to pass it.
01:56But running wasn't out of the equation.
01:58People run the ball for a two-yard line.
02:00I mean, I think that's insane with no time left.
02:03Well, he might have.
02:04What difference does it make if it's your last play?
02:06It was their last play.
02:07Like, if you were the Eagles.
02:08I'm passing the ball there.
02:09But if you were the Eagles, wouldn't you do a tush-push?
02:11You have to defend it.
02:12If I have an unstoppable play, yes, I'll lean on the tush-push.
02:16Well, they chose to go speed option.
02:17It looked like it was an option play.
02:19They were like a two-yard line.
02:20In the two-yard line, they run the ball sometimes.
02:22I agree with you, Evie.
02:23I mean, running the ball was an option.
02:24I personally wouldn't, Tav.
02:26They weren't going to run it there.
02:27And even Brady said it before the snap.
02:29Now they have to defend the run.
02:31I didn't like it.
02:32I didn't like the setup.
02:34Well, I actually think it might have been a run play, Jason.
02:36I think Jaden might have been running out for, like, almost an option play.
02:40I thought it was going to be just a rollout,
02:41and he was just going to throw the ball in the end zone.
02:43Possible.
02:43I don't know what he was going to do.
02:44I just know it was catastrophic.
02:47It was catastrophic.
02:47Let me say this.
02:48I don't blame Dan Quinn.
02:49I personally would have kicked a field goal.
02:51I would have, too.
02:52But I'm not to protect Jaden.
02:53I would have kicked a field goal because I want a little momentum.
02:55We get the ball back.
02:56Yeah.
02:57And whatever.
02:57Take some points.
02:58But I'm not blaming DQ for the call.
03:00You kick a field goal.
03:01You go into halftime.
03:02You don't feel great, but, you know, you're in the game.
03:05But you just said you actually agreed with the call,
03:07so you weren't for the field goal.
03:08I was fine with him either taking points or just having him away from the chaos.
03:13Okay.
03:14Having him back away from, like, he can survey the field a little bit better.
03:18Well, he did that on the first and second down.
03:20But like DQ said, it's a what if.
03:22And when things go wrong, of course, you second guess the decision.
03:26But what if Chris?
03:28I did, too.
03:28I wanted three points.
03:29I was watching with my wife and my daughter, and I said,
03:31he should just kick the field goal.
03:32Get the easy three.
03:34And then you got all the momentum in the world in the 17-13.
03:37But he decided not to.
03:38We heard him.
03:40But it's just the worst luck in the world for Chris Paul to step on his foot
03:44at that particular time.
03:46The reality is that injury was going to happen because that elbow's unstable.
03:50That's what I told him.
03:51That's the reality.
03:52Everyone was texting.
03:53My buddy Mike texted me.
03:54It was going to happen eventually.
03:55He goes, I'd fire Dan Quinn at halftime.
03:56I said, bro, if it didn't happen there, it was going to happen at some point
04:00in the season.
04:00If he can't even stop himself from falling, it was too unstable.
04:03I said, he's built like a plastic doll.
04:06He's so fragile.
04:07Until he gets surgery on it, that's going to keep happening.
04:10Yeah, I know.
04:11So, like, he can either.
04:12I'm sure Twitter was on fire after that decision.
04:15I'm sure it was on fire.
04:16Absolutely.
04:17Yeah.
04:19And we're going to talk about Dan Quinn specifically later in the show.
04:23I think it's crazy to blame him for that.
04:25I agree.
04:26You can have all of these questions, but they all overshadow the biggest question
04:33that this franchise faces, which is can you trust your future in Jaden Daniels?
04:38It appears nobody wanted to use the word last year, but it appears he's injury prone.
04:44It seems that seems to be the case.
04:46It appears he's spindly.
04:47The good news is.
04:48It doesn't appear.
04:49It appears like he's made of glass.
04:51It's 100% fact.
04:52He's built like a twig.
04:53I said it.
04:54He's built like a twig.
04:54It's your number one fear.
04:56But the good news is, if there is any good news, is he did such an incredible job of
05:00protecting himself.
05:01He did.
05:02Part two of that.
05:02He did.
05:03That I think there is a path.
05:05Get this repaired.
05:06Now, personally, I'd brace him up and try to play him through the season, then fix it.
05:09But that's just me.
05:10In the offseason.
05:11I agree with you.
05:11That's what I would do.
05:12But whatever.
05:13Do whatever you got to do.
05:15Try to get that tightened up, and hopefully that doesn't happen.
05:17But I think he did show a way.
05:19There is a way to play his style and protect yourself as best you can.
05:22And I think he showed that.
05:24So, you know, I'm not giving up on him, but this season is shot.
05:28I mean, you could play the Titanic.
05:30I've never called for it week two.
05:32Oh, I can't play it yet.
05:33Oh, I think you could play for it.
05:34I can't play it yet.
05:34This team is not good enough to overcome their only dynamic player.
05:41I mean, Diggs is good.
05:43The other guys have some moments.
05:44He's not only the straw that stirs the drink.
05:46He's the whole drink.
05:47He's the whole restaurant.
05:48He's the whole bar.
05:49He's everything.
05:49This team is not.
05:50They're not like Seattle.
05:51They're not even like Minnesota.
05:53They cannot win.
05:54They can't rely on their defense.
05:55Will not win without No. 5 under center.
05:57It's not a thing.
05:58It does.
05:59There's two games, maybe three, if he doesn't play the rest of the game.
06:02I would agree.
06:03It does feel like the season's over.
06:04I saw Grant Paulson do.
06:05No, I think you should play Titanic, actually.
06:06It feels like the season's over, and it's sad because they haven't had a home game.
06:11They haven't had a home game.
06:12I have 15 games to go.
06:14I'm going to hold off on Titanic until they actually cross the Atlantic to play the Colts.
06:21Now, if they come back from that trip 0-4, then I will play the Titanic.
06:25I think it depends on the diagnosis, right?
06:28Yeah.
06:28If you hear today, Jaden's opting not to have surgery, he'll be back in a week or two, then
06:35you have a little hope.
06:37Don't let it heal.
06:38It's going to be like a month at minimum.
06:39If they say, you know what?
06:41This injury happened last year.
06:44He missed three games.
06:45Came back.
06:46Re-injured it.
06:46Got hurt.
06:47This is the third time he's injured it.
06:49We're going to have to go big picture and have surgery, and we're shutting him down for
06:52the season.
06:53Well, then you can play Titanic.
06:55Why can't they just brace him up and deal with it like a shoulder that pops out?
06:58I mean, what if he's got torn ligaments?
07:01He might.
07:02Well, if that's the case, he probably has to.
07:03Well, if he's got torn ligaments, he's not going to be able to just bend his elbow freely.
07:06Well, they make braces actually where they actually cut you off at like 10 degrees, and
07:09so you can't fully straighten it.
07:10It's hard for a mobile quarterback to run when you've got a brace.
07:14I just don't see that happening.
07:15I would do whatever they can to get him back as soon as possible with the brace and try
07:20to kick the can down the road for Serge.
07:22You might be right.
07:23That's what I was trying to do, too.
07:24He's not going to be the same player.
07:25Selfishly.
07:25He's not going to be the same player if he's got a brace on.
07:28But I still think 80% of him is better than 150% of Mariota.
07:32The unfortunate thing is...
07:33Mariota is just hot garbage.
07:35He's a backup.
07:36Although he played well yesterday.
07:37Whatever.
07:37The unfortunate thing is that looked like Jaden Daniels 2024.
07:42I know.
07:43That looked like Jaden Daniels from two seasons ago.
07:45Yeah, he looked great.
07:46No, he looked great.
07:47He looked so fast when he was running.
07:48He almost had 70 yards rushing before.
07:50Which is a key element of his game.
07:52And he was bringing him back.
07:54I just love the way he was overall protecting himself.
07:57He was.
07:57He was being really smart about it.
07:59Passing game was strong.
08:00He clearly thinks about that.
08:02He knows to get down.
08:03He's not going to take the hits.
08:03He's made a concerted effort to change his style a little bit.
08:06He has.
08:07He has.
08:07It's just a shame.
08:08But he's still got hurt.
08:09That's the thing.
08:11Non-contact.
08:12The franchise is going to have to think long and hard.
08:15It was in contact with another person.
08:16It was in contact with another person.
08:16Well, that's what I mean.
08:17It's not in contact with another person.
08:17They're going to have to think long and hard.
08:19It wasn't tackled.
08:20Especially, let's say he comes back and he gets hurt again.
08:22So it's a season like last year.
08:24I'd give him rope.
08:25You know, it's fine.
08:25You bring him back next year.
08:27But at some point, you're going to be like, can we trust this guy?
08:31Yeah.
08:31That has to be in the conversation.
08:32And I think the fan base has to be losing some trust.
08:35Well, I told you before the season that if he had another injury, he deserves the Burrow
08:39treatment.
08:40And Burrow's had several years of injuries.
08:42In my opinion, he deserves the Burrow treatment.
08:44So yeah, whatever it is, we've got to fix him up.
08:47Honestly, the other best part is I was a little worried that there was a leg injury.
08:51That's what I thought.
08:52Because they carted him off too.
08:53It looked like that.
08:54So the fact that his legs are fine, this is obviously just an annoying, dumb thing.
08:59We've just got to get this fixed.
09:03And honestly, I don't know that it would be that harmful if it got hurt again.
09:06Just pop it back into place like you do a shoulder.
09:09And then deal with it in the offseason as you can in a perfect world.
09:14But thank God it wasn't a concussion.
09:16So it's not like lingering concussion things.
09:18Thank God it's not the knees.
09:20But yeah, I mean, is the guy injury prone?
09:22For sure.
09:22He's built like a twig.
09:24There's no doubt about it.
09:26Yep.
09:26No doubt about it.
09:27No one can deny it.
09:27No one can't.
09:28Is it possible to rest him for the next two games and then bring him back for the Giants
09:33game on October 11th?
09:34Sure, you could brace him.
09:36You could brace him up, but it won't necessarily.
09:39It might protect him a little bit.
09:40And it could happen again.
09:41But then you just pop it back in.
09:43But let me just say this.
09:44He's going to re-injure it.
09:45If he doesn't have season-ending surgery, he's going to re-injure it this year.
09:49Completely agree.
09:50This year, he'll re-injure it.
09:50Probably.
09:51Because that wasn't even with the player landing on him.
09:53No, that was just his own body weight.
09:55His own body weight.
09:55I know.
09:55But you know, J.J. Watt played two seasons.
09:58Now it's different.
09:59He's a defensive end or whatever.
10:00Whatever you want to call J.J. Watt.
10:01J.J. Watt played two seasons with a dislocated elbow and a brace.
10:06So apparently, Kurt Warner played at least a full season with a brace from a dislocated
10:11elbow.
10:11No, he's not a runner.
10:13So it's different things.
10:14But there is precedent.
10:17I wouldn't rule it out.
10:18I wouldn't rule it out.
10:18I certainly wouldn't rule it out.
10:20If he can take the snap.
10:21If he can extend and take the snap.
10:23Well, they say, for example, for Kurt, he couldn't do handoffs with that hand anymore.
10:27With the left hand anymore.
10:28So you have to change the way you do handoffs.
10:30So there's definitely adjustments.
10:31It's not ideal.
10:32But that's their only shot at getting to five wins.
10:37Well, yeah.
10:37Because this team's defense.
10:39Oh, my God.
10:40I can't believe how bad it was.
10:41This team's defense.
10:42I can't believe how bad it was.
10:43Is an issue.
10:44And I know Durante Jones is supposed to be bringing these exotic blitzes and all this
10:49stuff.
10:49It doesn't matter if your secondary blows.
10:51Can you bring an exotic cornerback to replace Mikey?
10:55Because unless he's doing that, it's going to take some time.
10:58And it's two good receivers.
10:59And it's a really good offense.
11:01And we talked about Dak's record, particularly in the NFC, since what?
11:062016?
11:062017?
11:07Whatever it is.
11:08The last time he took a loss.
11:092017, yeah.
11:10The defense is still a problem.
11:13And it's going to be a problem all year.
11:15They only have one.
11:18The team's as good as Jaden is.
11:21They don't have Jaden.
11:22They literally can't.
11:23They're a two-win team.
11:24It's weird.
11:25At times, you'll see plays, and you're like, okay, I like Kinlaw.
11:28And O-Wave had a play.
11:30Kinlaw's good for two or three plays a game.
11:31You know, Chase on how to play.
11:32You see a play here or there.
11:34But in the end, especially because they didn't even really mess with running the football.
11:38It's courtesy.
11:39They'd give you one run.
11:40Dallas?
11:41Yeah.
11:41Dallas was like, if you give me two cracks at a first down, I'm going to get one.
11:44They're like, Javante, you had a good year last year.
11:46You're kind of nubs.
11:47We're just going to throw to our all-world wide receiver.
11:50Those guys were open.
11:51They didn't need to.
11:52Guys were wide open.
11:53That's my point.
11:54CD was open the entire day.
11:56He was always open.
11:58All day long.
11:58All that being said, when Jaden started really cooking, the defense did make a couple plays.
12:03And they did force a couple.
12:03Yeah, it got back into it.
12:05It kind of gave him a little life.
12:07Sure.
12:07And then when Jaden was out, then it was just over.
12:09I mean, just forget about it.
12:11It was like a funeral at my house.
12:12Well, it wasn't great.
12:13And let's be real.
12:16The refs hoard the commanders out of a touchdown.
12:19Stealing the Javi Brown touchdown?
12:21Unconscious.
12:21I don't get how they don't see that.
12:23I don't quite understand.
12:24Is it possible they thought that his knee didn't hit inside because it was tough because of the color?
12:30Like that the knee was close to touching the end zone but actually landed out of the ball?
12:37No, they didn't think he had control of the ball.
12:38Yeah, at the very end, the ball kind of moved a little bit.
12:41So he didn't have 100% control of it.
12:43I thought it was still a catch.
12:44It just didn't say still.
12:46I thought he did.
12:47And then he fumbles.
12:50Everything went wrong after that.
12:51It's the Javi Brown, more Antonio Williams going forward.
12:55Give any targets to the Javi Brown to Antonio Williams.
12:58And I don't even know what David Blau was doing.
13:00He turned into Jim Zorn yesterday.
13:02He had the back-to-back trick play.
13:04That was actually embarrassing.
13:05The first one should have worked.
13:06It was a worse.
13:07It was wide open.
13:07But then to go back to the well again, it was embarrassing.
13:09I was embarrassed.
13:10I was embarrassed.
13:11I don't know why he did it the second time.
13:13Yeah, the second time was humiliating.
13:15But you did that two plays ago.
13:16What are you doing?
13:17Well, they said he was going to be aggressive today, right?
13:20Whatever.
13:21Well, the first play, Williams should have hit McLaurin.
13:25That should have been a touchdown.
13:26Totally.
13:26And we would have said that's a genius play.
13:28That was a great call.
13:29That was fine.
13:30But you can't go.
13:30Yeah, I didn't understand the second time.
13:32You can't do back-to-back trick plays.
13:33That's embarrassing.
13:34There's something called the element of surprise.
13:37They're no longer surprised.
13:38You just ran the trick.
13:39No, that shows you they got nothing.
13:41That shows you they got nothing.
13:42What are we doing here?
13:43Again, all legitimate issues.
13:46All they have is five.
13:47Diggs on his last legs.
13:49LaCorn can't get separation anymore.
13:50Well, Diggs scored two touchdowns.
13:52You're killing Diggs.
13:53He's great.
13:54He's on his last legs.
13:56I mean, he's older.
13:57I know.
13:57He's great.
13:58There's a future.
13:59I know, but last week you said everyone's going to love him.
14:02Now he's over.
14:03No, I love him.
14:04But there's nothing to build on.
14:06It's a one-year right goal.
14:08It's over.
14:08We knew that.
14:09The season's over already.
14:11It's so over, Jason.
14:13They have no shot.
14:14Look, if you have a backup quarterback in for, I don't know how long it's going to be, I would
14:17agree with you.
14:18The team is not built to win without him.
14:21They're not good enough.
14:22The players are not good enough.
14:24The coaches are not good enough.
14:26Is it time to just a complete overhaul?
14:28Especially galling.
14:29Is it Dan Quinn?
14:30You've got to wait until Jaden can play again.
14:31Then you have a fighting chance.
14:32Yeah, but he's not going to be 100%.
14:34Dan Quinn's a defensive guy, and it's just happening again under his watch.
14:38Yeah.
14:39That was so depressing to see the defense just go back to the last 20 years.
14:43Like we had one fleeting week where we were somewhat excited.
14:47Was that Dak Prescott's best game in a while?
14:50I don't know.
14:50It looked like it.
14:52It appeared that it balloons us.
14:54He was unstoppable yesterday.
14:58I'll finally start giving him respect, at least against the NFC East opponents at home,
15:03because he owns the rest of the division.
15:05Is he now 23-2 against them in Dallas?
15:08Yes.
15:09That's a pretty good mark.
15:10That's the number.
15:11It's way down on the list, but their kicker missed another field goal,
15:14and it was a 50-yarder.
15:15That's the least of the worries.
15:17I said it's way down on the list.
15:20Literally, it's indoors.
15:21You're on the correct hash.
15:22Because then Aubrey comes in and goes,
15:24Ha!
15:25Loser!
15:25I'm going to throw you a 60-yarder.
15:27And his would have been a 70-yarder.
15:29Easy.
15:30He's the best kicker in NFL history.
15:32I thought we had a weapon.
15:33What's funny is when you watch Aubrey kick,
15:35he doesn't even look like he's kicking hard.
15:37It's easy for him.
15:38He makes it look easy.
15:40Yes.
15:40It's what he does.
15:41I mean, he just kind of jogs up there and kicks it.
15:43It doesn't even look like he's pounding the ball.
15:45Like, there's no...
15:46It doesn't even look...
15:47It looks effortless.
15:49That's what it looks like when you're the best at something.
15:52Yeah, he's really good.
15:52Which he is.
15:53All right.
15:54A bunch of people want to weigh in.
15:551-800-636-1067.
15:57You really should be playing tight 10 kicks.
15:58It's freaking over.
15:59I'm going to wait.
16:00I'm going to wait.
16:01It's cracked in half.
16:02It's sinking.
16:03I'm going to wait.
16:03The orchestra's playing.
16:04It's over.
16:05It's only two games.
16:06Let's take a break.
16:07We'll come back.
16:08Have you looked at the schedule?
16:09Take your calls.
16:10Your reaction to the loss.
16:12Drew Locke looks like Elway.
16:14What do you think happens with Jaden Daniels?
16:16Do you want him to address this?
16:18Or should he just wear a brace?
16:20We'll get into that next here on The Junkies.
16:22Put him in under a brace.
16:22Go on.
16:22Put him that is like with a switch.
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