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00:00All right. Obviously, the Jane Daniels injuries is the primary concern here in Washington.
00:06He's already been ruled out for week three.
00:09I did think it was interesting that they didn't immediately put him on the IR, which would be a four
00:15week designation.
00:18So, you know, who knows that very little is is truly known.
00:23We know that there was no fracture on the x-rays was which is a good sign.
00:26And if you fracture it, then you really you had a hard argument to how it's going to stay in
00:31place there.
00:32But, of course, he had more imaging on Monday and he's consulting with specialists on, you know, yesterday, today.
00:42Today's what? I don't even know. Today's Tuesday.
00:44So today and Wednesday, I think they're going to try to maybe have an update by Thursday.
00:50Thursday's the day.
00:51Adam Schefter's reporting that it appears that, you know, obviously, Jaden would like to not have surgery if he can.
00:58But it's still certainly out there.
01:00I think most people assume if he did have the surgery, it would probably end the season.
01:06Some interesting anecdotes out there.
01:08You guys all remember seeing Gronk play, right?
01:11Gronk at the big elbow brace.
01:13Gronk.
01:13Yeah, you know, Kurt Warner actually played with the exact same injury and he has raised some eyebrows with what
01:21he said yesterday.
01:22Only thing I would say is I suffered the exact same injury back in 07 and I played the next
01:27week.
01:28I braced it up.
01:29Obviously, a couple of shots along the way.
01:30I had to hand the football off with my right hand in both directions.
01:33But this to me is something because it's a left arm.
01:37If he wants to play through that and get back out there and help his team, I believe he can.
01:41And it's not going to be one of those things that affects the throwing part of things.
01:45Does it affect his movement?
01:47Does it affect him running or some of the things they want to do by design?
01:50Maybe.
01:51But I do believe this is something that he can come back from.
01:54And because it's a left arm, I don't think it's something we worry about long term and go,
01:57oh, should we extend this guy because he's had this type of injury and had this injury twice?
02:02I believe it's something he can play through.
02:04I wonder if the subpar offensive line and not having the left tackle factors in.
02:08They lost Cosme in this game, too, as one of their best offensive linemen to injury.
02:12But do you factor it in as an organization?
02:13What if you're the player, though?
02:15I mean, you say, I can brace it up and go.
02:17I don't care.
02:18Yeah, I don't care about all that stuff.
02:19Let me go out and play.
02:21I want to be out there with my guys as opposed to thinking about this a year or two down
02:25the road.
02:25Yeah.
02:27We just don't know.
02:28Is that a little bit of a tough guy flexed by Kurt Warner saying, well, I just put a brace
02:31on it.
02:31I was out there the next week.
02:33Well, I mean, not everybody is equal.
02:36I mean, certain people handle injuries differently or pain differently than others.
02:41It's a little bit of a flex.
02:43It is.
02:43I guess, but I'm not sure that was the point.
02:45I don't think it was the point.
02:46But maybe Jaden is telling his team that.
02:48Maybe he's telling the docs, hey, I can play.
02:51Put a brace on it.
02:52We don't know.
02:53What happened at halftime?
02:53I've seen a lot.
02:54I didn't think it was a big deal.
02:56Yeah.
02:56A lot of online speculation when he went down and Marcus Mariota was by his side and none
03:05of the offensive linemen stood around.
03:06They all left.
03:07You know what?
03:08My daughter said the exact same thing watching the highlights.
03:12We were watching Channel 4 yesterday and Finley was talking about it.
03:15People were buzzing about that a little bit.
03:17Yeah.
03:17And she said, Dad, why are the offensive linemen just walking by him when he's on the ground?
03:23My guess is some didn't know the severity of it.
03:28My guess is.
03:28And they're also used to seeing guys go down a lot.
03:32That would be my.
03:32I don't think it's a situation where some people have thrown out there.
03:35Well, do the guys just not like Jaden?
03:36Are they jealous of Jaden?
03:38Do they not like him?
03:39Yeah.
03:39I don't think that either.
03:41Who knows?
03:41But I would guess that's not the case.
03:43Yeah.
03:43Some people are reading into it.
03:44It was just strange.
03:45What we don't know is they may have been told, go to the locker room.
03:48They only have 12 minutes, right?
03:49And that was the last play of the half.
03:51Yeah.
03:52And so a coach might have said, hey, guys, give them some space.
03:57Possible.
03:58You're right.
03:59It definitely wasn't a good look.
04:00I mean, I guess if you're into looks, I mean, I think they were just reacting normally.
04:05Jaden went down.
04:08Marcus was there.
04:10No, Marcus has really tuned in.
04:12These guys also are in car crashes every play.
04:14They go down all the time.
04:16You know, they're kind of used to it.
04:17They're probably immune to it at this point.
04:19They're probably a little bit of immune to it.
04:21It did look off.
04:22I didn't notice that.
04:24I didn't notice that.
04:25Your wife did.
04:26And a lot of others did.
04:27Yeah.
04:28I personally didn't notice that.
04:30Well, I didn't notice it live.
04:31I just noticed it during the replay.
04:33Some account did a side-by-side of like when Jackson Dart got hurt last night.
04:38And then did a side-by-side with the Cowboys game, too.
04:42With Jaden?
04:42Yeah.
04:43Well, I think initially.
04:43He looked totally different.
04:45I'll be honest with you.
04:45They may not.
04:46Some of them may not have actually realized what was going on.
04:49Like when Jaden first went down, I thought he just tripped over the foot.
04:52And I don't know.
04:52Maybe pulled a hamstring or something.
04:54I didn't know.
04:54Yeah, I thought it was his knee or a hammy.
04:56Until all of a sudden you saw the dislocate and then you go, oh, lordy.
04:59You know, and then you just kind of panic.
05:00I'm guessing the guys just didn't know.
05:03You might be right.
05:04I don't know.
05:04I mean, maybe you're right.
05:05Maybe they all hate him.
05:06I would bet my money that that's not what's happened there.
05:09But who knows?
05:10I don't know the answer.
05:11He was screaming in pain.
05:12I'm going to guess that his teammates don't hate him.
05:15I would think.
05:16No, I don't think that's the reason.
05:17I think he's a genuinely nice dude and a good teammate.
05:20Yeah.
05:21My guess is they were told, go to the locker room.
05:24Maybe.
05:25It's nothing they can really do and say, hey, they're all content.
05:29It's possible.
05:30It's very possible.
05:31I know that there's video of CD and Dak.
05:33They were alarmed.
05:34They went, oh, he got hurt.
05:36And I'm sure you've seen that.
05:37That was viral.
05:38Where they were looking, oh, he's down.
05:39And then they kind of eventually they have to go back to the locker room, too.
05:42You know, not going to go over there necessarily and kneel down and pray with him at that moment.
05:47So anyway, it's obviously it's by far the single biggest story.
05:52I think personally in the NFL, it's certainly the biggest story here in town.
05:56How are they going to handle this issue?
05:59You got a lot of doctors.
06:01We're going to have one on Dr. Jesse Morse.
06:03I know he's strongly, I think, advocating for eventually trying to get a procedure on it, tighten it up.
06:11I do think it's it's an issue that where it's compromised and it's always going to be an issue.
06:17So, yeah, it's just it sucks if that dogs him throughout his entire career.
06:22Let's hope it's hope, you know, you can get past that.
06:25It's always going to be.
06:26It's always good.
06:27That particular thing is always going to be an issue to throw him like a rag doll.
06:29You're going to worry about that.
06:30Now, I do think it's interesting, you know, like ACL braces.
06:34So offensive linemen wear ACL braces, right, to protect their knees.
06:38But ACL braces are interesting.
06:41And I know this because I researched it like crazy when my son went through it.
06:44They protect you for contact injuries for ACLs, but they don't protect you for non-contact.
06:49So, you know, when a guy like plants his foot.
06:51Yeah.
06:52An ACL brace will pretty much not help that.
06:55But an ACL brace will help when an offensive lineman rolls into your leg and rips your ACL.
07:00So that's why the old linemen wear it a lot of times it's not going to help what's internal.
07:05I think with this, I think this has a higher chance of helping a elbow brace because it's not like
07:12a non-contact type of thing.
07:17Typically, we'll see.
07:19I don't know.
07:20What would you put the odd or the percentage that he has the surgeries out for the year?
07:26That he has it before the season's done?
07:28I think he's going to try to brace it up.
07:3030%?
07:3110%.
07:32Oh, 10%.
07:32No, I think it's 50-50 because I think the team, I wouldn't be surprised if the owner gets involved.
07:36Yeah, yeah.
07:37And they're like, listen, we really do view you as our franchise guy.
07:41We need you to be 100%.
07:42And we just don't want this to just continue to linger.
07:46And we don't want you to play differently.
07:47We want you to be able to protect yourself.
07:49I do think that's a 50% chance.
07:52Okay.
07:53A little less than that.
07:5430% sounds good.
07:5630 that he has the surgery?
07:57I don't want him to be shocked any which way.
08:00I personally hope he tries to brace it up.
08:03I hope he does, too.
08:04I hope that's the case.
08:05Yeah.
08:06Me, too.
08:07I don't want him to take Toradol or anything.
08:09Yeah.
08:09I don't want him to take Toradol.
08:11Oh, I want him to take any medication possible to stay out of the field.
08:14Well, I would want him to take something that's maybe less harmful.
08:18Something that's a little less harmful.
08:19Legal and whatever's being used in the locker room.
08:22Yeah.
08:23Just give him that.
08:23Whatever the anti-inflammatory is.
08:25And I'm sure he'd load up on the Advil.
08:27Give him the maximum dose of it.
08:29Yeah.
08:30I don't know.
08:31It's a very, it's just, it's really devastating.
08:34But here, just to move on for a second, the problem is he's not the only guy.
08:39There are so many guys that are injured.
08:42We found out later, yesterday, that Nick Cross actually went to the hospital and was hospitalized
08:47overnight for an internal injury.
08:50Who knows there?
08:50I don't know what that means.
08:51Could be one in a million things.
08:53I mean, do you have like internal bleeding from a hit?
08:55I mean, who knows?
08:56Yeah, it could be anything.
08:57I mean, it could be anything like that.
08:58That was kind of my thought.
08:59Yeah.
08:59Now, the good news is they released him, so that's good.
09:02But my guess is he's probably not going to be available.
09:05And by the way, he's maybe been our best defensive player.
09:08He's certainly been a lot of them.
09:09Most impactful, at least to the average eyeball.
09:11I'm going to guess if you had an internal injury that required you to stay overnight in
09:15the hospital.
09:16That they have to monitor.
09:17That you're not going to play the next week.
09:18Hard to imagine.
09:19I know these guys are tough, but like, that's one where you're just like, let's let this
09:23heal a little bit, figure out what's going on.
09:25I'm with you on that.
09:26We all saw Sam Cosme just get rocked by his own guy.
09:29Terrible.
09:31Usually guy.
09:32Now, he doesn't have, as far as I know, he doesn't have a big concussion history, at
09:36least at the NFL level, that we know of.
09:39But usually, those guys at least miss a week.
09:42It's kind of rare that they get cleared on Friday and play.
09:46I mean, maybe.
09:47I mean, even though it was K-Tron Allen, it was one of the smaller guys on the field.
09:50He got rocked.
09:51It was.
09:52You saw it.
09:52It was very violent.
09:54It took down a giant.
09:55It was violent.
09:56He's a ferocious runner.
09:59Yeah, I mean, he's strong.
10:00And weighs 200 plus pounds.
10:01Yeah, he's a strong dude.
10:01That dude puts his helmet into your chin, and you're not ready for it.
10:04But just think about all the guys.
10:06You saw how he reacted.
10:07Oh, yeah.
10:07That he blocks.
10:08Yeah.
10:09You know, the guys who are much bigger.
10:10He's a tough dude.
10:12But he just got, yeah, he got hit pretty hard.
10:13I would assume, I just assumed Ken Law's going to be out, too.
10:18I don't know.
10:19He got a shoulder and a back issue.
10:20That didn't look good.
10:21He's questionable.
10:22Brandon Coleman is questionable.
10:24But they do think, because he just has a finger.
10:26I think he'll play.
10:28Honestly, I'll lose some respect for him.
10:30If you see all these guys.
10:32I will, Cakes.
10:33Which finger was it?
10:33I don't know.
10:34But offensive linemen can tape up fingers.
10:37Okay.
10:38They can brace up fingers.
10:39They can cast fingers.
10:40So, I will lose respect for Brandon Coleman if he's out for finger cakes.
10:44Just so you know.
10:45I'm going to guess, is it broken?
10:48I don't know what it is.
10:49I don't care if it's cut in half.
10:51If he's out for a finger, I'm going to lose respect for him.
10:55And I'm going to bet that's not going to happen.
10:57That he's going to play.
10:58I would say Coleman will play.
10:59Cross, probably not.
11:00Ken Law, not.
11:01Cosme, not.
11:02Obviously, J.D., not.
11:03Correct.
11:04That's what I agree with.
11:05I don't know about Frankie.
11:05We got a bunch of other guys.
11:06I mean, fingers are important for blocking, EB.
11:09You need your fingers.
11:10Those guys are all taped up.
11:11They're all bandaged up.
11:13They freaking wear clubs out there.
11:15Frankie Louvoo, he's still questionable with the groin.
11:17Of course, he missed last week.
11:18Chig, he's still questionable with the hamstring he missed last week.
11:22Deron Payne, did he even play?
11:25He's questionable cakes for the knee.
11:27By the way, did I put in an injury caveat to the quarterback for my Chig Okonkwo numbers
11:32for 2026?
11:33No.
11:34I didn't do that.
11:34No, you're going to get screwed on that.
11:36I probably should have done that.
11:37By the way, not done.
11:38Who made the bets with him?
11:40I think I probably had multiple takers.
11:42I think he's got three on that one.
11:45Charles Emenehue is questionable.
11:47I thought I was one of them.
11:48With ankle.
11:50Dorrance Armstrong, who was just put back out there.
11:53He's questionable with the knee.
11:55How many snaps did he get?
11:57Who?
11:57Dorrance?
11:58I didn't see the snaps.
11:59I didn't really see him on the field.
12:01I saw him on the field.
12:02He just didn't do anything.
12:03He just didn't make a lot of plays.
12:05Adafi Elway, he's questionable with the calf.
12:08Chase on.
12:08I mean, all these guys are questionable.
12:10I believe they took away.
12:11That's kind of like the only thing they can put in there, right?
12:13Most of these guys will be.
12:15Questionable to be probable at this point.
12:17Chase on has a knee.
12:19Jalen Lane, who I don't know what was going on with those kickoff returns.
12:22He got pummeled on one of those returns.
12:24He's got a groin.
12:26And then Tyler Owens, I guess still kind of nursing the ankle, but he played full last week.
12:31Jakes, do you want to hear your outstanding Jaden's bets?
12:34Oh, no.
12:35It sounds like it's going to be expensive.
12:37Good thing I won money last night at MGM.
12:39I think I went up.
12:39I was definitely on these.
12:41Chig will have over 85 targets.
12:44JP, no.
12:45Myself, no.
12:46Drab, no.
12:47Cakes, yes.
12:48$10.
12:48That's it.
12:49$10 a piece?
12:50Yeah.
12:51You need him to be active.
12:52I have this one with you, Cakes.
12:55CJ Stroud will have more passing yards than Jaden Daniels.
12:58That's for $20.
12:59No injury caveats?
13:01These are no injury caveats.
13:03Who's that with?
13:04That's with you.
13:04That's with me.
13:05Valdez, yeah.
13:05And then Jaden will have over 33.5 total touchdowns.
13:09Cakes, yes.
13:10Lurch, no.
13:10$33, I believe.
13:11That's $33.50.
13:13No injury caveat.
13:14I knew we made that the number of touchdowns that we bet.
13:16Oh, okay.
13:17Buyout, $31.
13:20Antonio Williams, over 49.5 catches.
13:23Cakes, yes.
13:24JP, no.
13:25Yeah.
13:25That's $10.
13:26Man, I was going big on these bet amounts.
13:30Hey, you know what?
13:31You know what you need to do for me today?
13:33I need you to go buy some whiteout.
13:36Go buy some whiteout.
13:37A big vat of it, like a 55-gallon drum of it.
13:40We're going to go through it.
13:41We're going to alter some of those bets.
13:43Did you guys settle Eagles team total over 24 between you and Jason?
13:49No.
13:50From week one?
13:51Winner.
13:52$2.
13:52$2?
13:53Yeah.
13:54Hold on.
13:55And then this was made that whole $6.40.
13:59That's $6.40 getting spent.
14:00And then this was made on 9-8.
14:03Giants will have a better record than the Commanders.
14:05JP, yes.
14:06Cakes, no.
14:07Please tell me that's for $500.
14:09I believe that's for, I think, $5.
14:14That's for confidence that the Commanders will have a better record.
14:16Giants will have a better record than Commanders.
14:18I think the Giants stink, too.
14:20But, I mean, it could be a photo finish.
14:22Well, it's just, it's good to revisit after.
14:24Both QBs hurt.
14:25So, Cakes has the Commanders having a better record than the Giants?
14:29Yes.
14:29Yes.
14:30Okay.
14:31Just tip money for the valet.
14:32There you go.
14:33All right.
14:34Matt, this is paid.
14:35The $2 for the team total for the Eagles.
14:37Remember, Valdez, your mission today, big jar of whiteout.
14:41We're going to go to work on that bet book.
14:43All right.
14:44So, that's the basic injury update.
14:47Of course, we've got the whole week still to talk about, you know, scenarios, how the
14:51Commanders are going to attack the Seahawks, et cetera.
14:54Seahawks are, of course, they're starting their backup quarterback, but Drew Locke is
14:57very good.
14:58And, of course, their team.
14:59Well, hold on.
15:00Sam Darnold's practicing Wednesday.
15:01Yeah.
15:01Sam Darnold might even play.
15:02So, I think if you practice Wednesday, he's probably going to play.
15:06Yeah.
15:07So, they might even just get him at full strength.
15:08So, I don't know what the number is right now.
15:10It's about six and a half, seven.
15:11Something like that.
15:11I haven't looked.
15:12I think that's the number.
15:13That makes sense.
15:14Yeah.
15:14So, if Darnold plays, it might go up to eight or nine.
15:18When we come back.
15:19Well, if the Seahawks are number two in the league.
15:20No, it's only been two weeks.
15:21But, two in the league in yards allowed.
15:23And, two in the league by a half a point in points allowed.
15:26Yep.
15:27They're looking pretty impressive.
15:28Yep.
15:29It would be a major upset if the Commanders could take care of them.
15:31I'll be stunned if they can pull it off.
15:33At Northwest Stadium.
15:33I guess we've seen crazier things.
15:35But, I'll be stunned.
15:35Coming up next, Mike Jones, columnist for The Athletic.
15:38He wasn't the biggest fan of the play call to keep Jaden Daniels in the game where he got injured
15:45on the play.
15:45He will join us next here on The Fan.
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