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Jeremy White and Joe DiBiase hear from listeners who share their biggest concerns and thoughts following the Bills victory over the Chargers.
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00:00Mike in Orchard Park. Hey Mike. Hey, how are you? I have a couple, I have a couple of things
00:05that I noticed about this, uh, about this game. And, uh, DJ Moore ran two terrible routes. And that's what
00:15caused Josh to throw those two interceptions.
00:17Number two, Josh, they kept him in the pocket the whole game. And if they would have allowed him to
00:26roll out like he is capable of doing, there wouldn't have been the kind of pressure on him that there
00:32was. Uh, those two things.
00:34Why, why did you think DJ Moore rang, ran the wrong route? Why? Because the first route that he ran
00:41that caused an interception, all right, was supposed to be an in cut in front of the safety. And he
00:49ran an in cut behind the safety.
00:52He ran a, he ran a slant in front of the safety that the safety jumped. If he had run
00:58the route that you said, the safety would have had more time to intercept it.
01:02No, not, not, not, not on an in cut. Cause he, cause Josh always throws the ball on an in
01:07cut, uh, a little bit behind the, the, uh, the receiver, not, not all the way behind, but he doesn't
01:15throw the, the, the, uh, the ball in front of him. And if you watched any of his games, which
01:21we all do, you would know that.
01:24Now, number two, Owen, go out there and give it a shot for the Sabres. You are now a celebrity.
01:33Go out there and just try.
01:35PTO.
01:36You never know what can happen.
01:38I like it.
01:38Bye.
01:39Thanks, Mike.
01:41Give it a shot.
01:43I haven't, I mean, I, I didn't even play in the 11 day this year cause I tore my groin
01:47getting hit by a golf cart.
01:48Just think of all the rehab you had to do. You're fine.
01:50A year and a half since I even put the gear on.
01:52Hit by a golf cart.
01:53I did not see either of these more plays being that way at all.
01:57I mean, the safety jumped at the first one in front of Josh.
02:01And the second one is a bomb down the field when, you know, they're hunting a big play.
02:07And what was he, what route was he supposed to run?
02:11That's 50 yards down.
02:12I think there's only one route actually that goes 50 yards down the field.
02:18No, there's a couple you could run the, uh,
02:21I guess he's running more of a, you can run a go.
02:23You can run, yeah, you're going to post, but he sees it all the way.
02:26He, Josh knows what he's doing.
02:27He knows that there's double coverage way down the field and he's getting pressure from behind.
02:32And he just like, all right, let me truck this up.
02:36Yeah.
02:36I don't think it was DJ Moore's fault.
02:37I don't either.
02:39We also got a clarification from Josh that he did not think that he had a free play on throwing
02:46that one to DJ Moore.
02:48And that got slowed down.
02:49And a lot of people were all over that, that it should have been an offside.
02:53The thing about a free play for a quarterback there is it's a free play.
02:56When you see the flags, you don't get to make the distinction in your head.
03:00Ooh, I think he was offside.
03:01The free play is I know that player was offside.
03:04I watched, I see three flags in the air.
03:06I did a hard count and that's not what happened.
03:09That players jump, jump the snap a little bit.
03:11Did he get over into the neutral zone?
03:12Maybe it was close, but Alan even confirmed after the game, he did not think he had a free play.
03:18He just threw downfield to DJ Moore, which he's going to do.
03:21It is.
03:22It is incredible.
03:23Like when he decides this ball is going to DJ Moore, he's not open.
03:30He's not, he's just like, he's trusting, he's trusting his number one receiver, right?
03:34Maybe that's, maybe the bills saw that.
03:36Maybe that's why they drafted Keon Coleman.
03:38They thought if we got a guy that can win the jump balls, like again, you never want that to
03:44be your guy's primary feature.
03:46But you're saying right here, like, Hey, if he sees a guy in coverage, he's going to throw to him
03:49a receiver in single coverage.
03:51And then they wanted a receiver that would win that battle in single coverage.
03:55I mean, Alan threw it to Palmer in Houston, single coverage deep down the field, right?
03:59I got my guy against that guy, 45 yards down the field.
04:03What are the chances they pick it off?
04:05And in Houston, Lasseter dropped it.
04:08And in this game, it landed on the guy's stomach.
04:11Congratulations to him for laying on the ground.
04:13Right.
04:14It was close.
04:15I think this game, again, five turnovers, two of them, arguably three of them are insane, bad turnover luck.
04:24If you drop three balls on the ground every week, you do not lose all three.
04:28You had 80 fumbles in a season.
04:30You don't lose 80 fumbles.
04:31You're supposed to get half of them back.
04:33The ball bounces in a funny way.
04:35So you don't want the ball to hit the ground.
04:37But why'd they turn it over five times?
04:38One interception landed on a guy who was laying on the ground.
04:41And they lost three out of three fumbles, including one of them where the players probably thought the play was
04:46over and didn't try to get it.
04:49Like reviewing a play and going for a clear recovery there when a quarterback is tackled and everyone thinks he's
04:54down, it's dubious.
04:57Anthony in Buffalo.
04:59Hey, Anthony.
05:00Hey, good morning, guys.
05:02Yeah, five turnovers is unacceptable, however.
05:06But yeah, so I just wanted to kind of say I was at the game yesterday.
05:10And I'll tell you, man, those jerseys, boy, you could not see a number of who was on the field
05:17because it was a little rough to watch those jerseys.
05:21And I don't know, man.
05:23I don't know how everyone else feels.
05:24But, boy, those are some bad jerseys.
05:26And, you know, as far as football relations go, you know, with that last caller there, if you've noticed that
05:35their defense was spread out across the entire line because they know if Josh rolls out, he's going to make
05:43a play.
05:43So the best thing to do for defend that guy is to keep him in the pocket and then collapse
05:49out on top of him.
05:50That's a lot of the reason why he had struggles yesterday.
05:53But, yeah, I just wanted to comment on these jerseys, man.
05:56Those things are terrible.
05:58And they are not very eye appealing.
06:01I'm not sure what it was like on TV.
06:03But at the stadium, boy, you could not see them.
06:06So have a good day, guys.
06:08Go Bills.
06:08Thanks, Anthony.
06:09Without even saying how you feel about them as appealing to the eye, like that looks cool, there are good
06:16jerseys that are bad for stadiums and for visuals and for a play-by-play man's nightmare or a play
06:22-by-play woman's nightmare.
06:23And those are a play-by-play person's nightmare.
06:25You can't see the numbers.
06:27They don't pop.
06:28There's a reason that numbers and jerseys are usually set light and dark and, you know, blending in gray and
06:35blue.
06:37So, yeah, from our seats, it was tough at times to tell, like, who was – who got the ball
06:42on that play, who made the – yeah, it was difficult.
06:46Thanks for the phone call.
06:47You're higher up, too.
06:48Connor in Pennsylvania.
06:49Connor, good morning.
06:51Hey, guys.
06:52First-time caller.
06:53Big fan of the show.
06:54Thanks for calling in.
06:56I think Alan's going to get a lot of negative discourse about this game, which is warranted because he played
07:01bad.
07:02But I just wanted to highlight two players I really love from this.
07:05James Cook with his back-to-back game with six or more yards per carry.
07:10He is clutch when Alan is not performing.
07:13We can rely on our workhorse back, which is huge.
07:16And Greg Russo with six sacks, which is two more than Will Anderson, who's in second in the entire NFL.
07:21My whole life watching the Bills, I've never seen a dominant edge rusher like this.
07:25I just want to hear your thoughts.
07:26Thanks, guys.
07:27Thanks, Connor.
07:27You know, Russo, of course, he and Walker were getting to, you're watching them on every snap because it's fun
07:34to watch what they do.
07:35On Cook, so maybe you saw it, maybe you didn't.
07:38Matt Waldman on Twitter got the slow-mo and cut up a quick thing where Cook is making a cut.
07:46And it's very specific here, but he's cutting, he's running to the right, and he cuts left to move up
07:53the field and get by a linebacker or a corner or whatever.
07:55But he cuts on his inside foot, and his ankle flexion does something that you don't think ankles are supposed
08:02to do.
08:03And I remember this exact trait, inside foot cut.
08:08Like an inside foot cut is something that is wizardry, and you can have the best NFL running backs in
08:13the league and they can't do it.
08:14And for Cook to be able to have an inside foot cut, I remember Reggie Bush in college.
08:20That was one of the things about him.
08:23His body moves in a way that bodies are not supposed to move.
08:25And sometimes I think, I know I do this, I forget that these athletes are all incredible athletes, but they're
08:32not all created equally.
08:33They're not all the same.
08:35And what James Cook's ankles can do is unfair.
08:39It doesn't look, did they put in grass just for this so that he can slip instead of, I don't
08:46know, leaving an entire foot behind him?
08:49It is insane to see what he can do.
08:52How far his left ankle extended past his right ankle when he's turning the way he was.
08:57And you might think, oh yeah, I can bend my ankle.
09:00No, the other way.
09:01Yeah.
09:03I don't understand.
09:04He's not supposed to be able to do that.
09:05He's not supposed to do that.
09:07In the chat, Jimbo Gumby ankles.
09:11Yeah, crazy.
09:12Absolutely crazy.
09:14He is second in the NFL through three weeks in rushing yards over expectation, which is meant to separate it
09:21from what the line is blocking for.
09:22Do you know who's number one, by the way?
09:24Hold on.
09:25Number one.
09:26B. John Robinson.
09:26No, he's actually.
09:27Get out of town.
09:28Technically, he's tied with Cook.
09:29Cook has more per attempt.
09:31Number one is more than twice as much as B. John.
09:35Okay, then I do know that it's going to be Kenneth Walker.
09:37Yeah.
09:37Because of all the missed tackles.
09:39Yeah, Kenneth Walker.
09:39I'll double check this.
09:41I'm pretty sure in this game, Cook's yards over expected was modest.
09:44He did not do a ton in yards over expected this week.
09:48It was nine.
09:50Nine yards over expected this week.
09:52Yep.
09:52So not a ton.
09:53Last week, he had a big number.
09:55Last week.
09:56Yeah.
09:56Last week, James Cook was at 50 over expected.
09:59So 50 of his 65 on the season came last week.
10:02Yeah.
10:03Pretty good.
10:04Pretty good.
10:058-0-3-0-5-50.
10:07Sorry.
10:08Dan in Orchard Park.
10:09Hey, Dan.
10:10Hey.
10:11Good morning, gentlemen.
10:13I felt like the flyover yesterday was a bit underwhelming.
10:17So our seats are up in the 400 level.
10:19We're only six rows up opposing team side.
10:22We had to lean pretty hard over the people in front of us to see this plane.
10:28I'm assuming the people behind us didn't see it at all, up a bit higher in the 400s.
10:33And I felt like there was a commercial flight later in the game that wasn't that much higher
10:36than that plane.
10:38So I don't know.
10:39I'm sure there's protocol flying over these stadiums of height and stuff like that.
10:43But it seemed like they could have been a little more centered and a little closer to the stadium.
10:48I don't know.
10:48Yeah.
10:48I think it was 1,000 feet.
10:51We talked to the pilot on Friday.
10:521,000 feet.
10:53I am also right around where you are, row-wise, upper deck, row five.
10:59And I thought it missed the stadium because I didn't see any piece of it.
11:06And I asked a friend who was on the other side of the stadium, same upper deck, and he didn't
11:12see it either.
11:13So I think that's just good.
11:15That's a stadium design point more than it is anything I think about the flyover is if it's going to
11:22be 1,000 feet, which I think most of these usually are.
11:25Maybe this one's a little higher because the plane's bigger.
11:26I don't know.
11:28I think if you're in the upper deck, you're probably going to miss them, which, you know, it sucks, but
11:32whatever.
11:33You're also being covered and you don't get rained on.
11:35You don't get rained on.
11:36Because I saw a lot of videos of people from, like, the lower bowl, especially back of the end zones,
11:40and it went, like, right overhead and looked awesome.
11:43So I don't think there was anything they could really do differently.
11:45I think it's just if you're in the upper deck, you're probably going to have a tough time seeing it.
11:49Next week's plane, you want to know what it is?
11:53Yes, I do.
11:54For New England?
11:55A C-130J.
11:57What's that?
12:01Google it.
12:02Another big one.
12:03Yeah.
12:04The big one with the propellers on it.
12:07Yeah, the Super Hercules.
12:09See, now that's a cool name.
12:11Right.
12:12Not just even the Super Hercules.
12:14Not just Hercules.
12:14Hercules, if he was even more Super.
12:17Super Hercules, yeah.
12:19It's a big one.
12:21All right.
12:24Jason to Hamburg.
12:26Hey, we sat at the lower bowl about 28 rows up.
12:29The big thing, we tailgated in the hammer lot.
12:32The big thing that I noticed, it feels more like get loose at a wedding than it felt like
12:38the normal frat party, like everyone's just out of control vibe.
12:42And as far as the Nickel City jerseys, they accomplished what they wanted to because there
12:47were so many of them at the game.
12:49The Bills and the players made a ton of money off them because I saw so many of them, so
12:54I don't think they're going away anytime soon.
12:58I didn't see a ton of them.
13:00I mean, they were there.
13:01I saw some.
13:02But like, I'll say this.
13:04I saw more.
13:05I've seen more Rivalry Series uniforms than I've seen Nickel City uniforms.
13:09But I can't speak to what they've actually sold.
13:12I saw some.
13:13Um, yeah, the cocktail hour for a wedding, maybe.
13:21Yesterday was a great, like, tailgate because a lot of people were still going in there for
13:26the first time and the weather was perfect out, temperature, all of it, 1 p.m., your
13:31first 1 p.m. tailgate at the new stadium.
13:35Like, in the game, you know, because of the way the game was going, it didn't feel as much
13:39of a party as last week, but before the game did, for sure.
13:44Everybody getting back in their 1 p.m. routines, which we'll only do four times this year.
13:48But the early forecast for Sunday against New England, high of, you know, 67.
13:53Beauty.
13:53As of today, it says rain.
13:55We'll get closer to the game.
13:56We'll talk about that with Pat Hammer.
13:57I'm sure on Friday, as it's a divisional matchup, first divisional matchup of the year.
14:04Rob Gronkowski was walking around in the tailgates in my area.
14:08Tom Brady did not, but I think that was probably a smart choice on his part.
14:12I don't think he would get a positive reception from those around.
14:17Tom Brady.
14:19I can't believe you sold tickets to watch Tom Brady on a broadcast.
14:23I would have paid just not to watch him.
14:26I just couldn't go to the game.
14:28Just the anti-Brady, anything.
14:30Brady.
14:31Oh.
14:32I'm so glad we don't have to watch him.
14:34No, the rest of the year.
14:35The rest of the season.
14:36Where's the Super Bowl?
14:37Is it on Fox?
14:39It was on Fox two years ago.
14:42Right.
14:42Okay.
14:43Well, no Brady for the Bills the rest of the year.
14:44That's great.
14:45We could Aikman.
14:46Fine.
14:46Take it.
14:47I would also take it.
14:49Totally take it.
14:50I'd rather listen to Gene Steratore than Tom Brady.
14:52Wow.
14:53Would you rather listen to a Terry McCauley, Gene Steratore, all rules analyst broadcast,
14:59or Tom Brady?
15:01Man, that's tough.
15:02I did have the thought, what play was it?
15:05What game was it?
15:08It might have been the Ravens and the Cowboys.
15:11Mm-hmm.
15:12Whatever.
15:12You know me.
15:13With the OPI at the end of the game, maybe?
15:15It's not even that.
15:15There was just a different moment.
15:16Maybe it was college football.
15:18Okay.
15:19There was an electric play somewhere in football.
15:22It might have been Wisconsin-Penn State or something.
15:25Okay.
15:26Anyway, the point is, you know me.
15:30I rail on rules analysts.
15:32You can't even have an exciting play where you get the turned up at a wedding vibe, like
15:38the caller just said, without the all-time greatest calls, where you lay out and you let
15:44the crowd go nuts on television, right?
15:46You're in the moment.
15:47Every single moment, they're like, oh, did it count?
15:50Gene?
15:51Terry?
15:52What'd you see here?
15:53Did this play count?
15:54Don't, they can't stop going to the, I don't want to call him like a nerd or wearing a pocket
16:00protector, but just going to the guy to ask if this play we all just enjoyed, hey, we got
16:05a really exciting moment here.
16:07Let's talk to the most boring person on earth.
16:09What did you think of it?
16:11Boring person who decided to become an official and somehow launched yourself into the spotlight?
16:17What did the boring guy think of it?
16:20I'd rather hear from Terry Bradshaw on it.
16:22I'd rather hear from Gronk.
16:23I'd rather hear from Metta World Peace.
16:27I'd rather hear from, I mean, anybody on earth than let's talk to the guy in the officiating
16:33booth after every play.
16:37All right, we're going to break in.
16:39Sorry.
16:41I just can't believe we just, I just can't believe our entire lives have been turned over
16:44to these people.
16:45Just nuts.
16:46All right.
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16:51in New York for over a hundred years, shopped the family of finer foods.
16:54Don't fall or the trap.
16:56I saw our buddy Pat Moran talking Buffalo.
16:58He posted the NFC South standing say it's another season of trash for the South.
17:03Don't sleep on the Falcons or the Saints yet.
17:05But the Falcons played games with no quarterbacks and the Saints, I think, are good.
17:12I think the Saints are good.
17:13This is not going to be a division that has a 7-9 division winner, 7-10 division winner.
17:17The Saints will win a bunch of games.
17:19I think they'll be good.
17:20They'll host a playoff game.
17:21It's not a complete dog division.
17:24Don't fall for it.
17:25Carolina might be bad.
17:26But they lost to the Browns and they got hammered by the Bears.
17:30Yeah.
17:30Who'd they beat?
17:31Their win is against someone easy.
17:35Tennessee.
17:37Where'd it go?
17:38They beat the Falcons, but with their fourth string quarterback.
17:44Sure, sure.
17:44Jack Strand.
17:45Right.
17:45Yeah.
17:46All right.
17:47And they scored 37 on the Bears, which they were getting some credit for that on offense.
17:52But they also lost by 59.
17:55They lost by 22.
17:56Right.
17:57All right.
17:57Maybe the South is still kind of bad.
17:59Anyway, there you go.
18:00There's the NFL standings.
18:01We're looking at the South.
18:02Unbeaten teams.
18:03Bills.
18:04Chiefs.
18:05Raiders.
18:06Raiders.
18:07Just like you had a truck.
18:08Not yet taking them seriously.
18:09Okay.
18:10For, like, contender status.
18:14Like, could they make the playoffs?
18:15Could they be, like, a 9-8, 10-7 team?
18:18Like, okay.
18:19I'll believe that.
18:20But I'm just not, you know.
18:22They're going to be on a graphic with the Bills and Chiefs today, and I'm not going to spend a
18:26second thinking about them.
18:27Here are your 3-0 teams.
18:29Chiefs, Niners, Bills, Raiders, Vikings.
18:32And the Eagles could go to 3-0 tonight.
18:34Here's your stat on the Vikings.
18:35The Vikings are at a minus 244-yard differential.
18:39Ooh.
18:40Yeah.
18:41Really?
18:41They're out-gained in all their games.
18:43Their offense is terrible.
18:44It has to just be the offense.
18:45And they are 3-0.
18:46It has to just be the offense.
18:47They are the first team, the Vikings, to start 3-0 with under 250 total yards in each game.
18:54Under 250.
18:56Three times.
18:57Three wins.
18:57Since the 1957 Browns.
19:00Wow.
19:01There you go.
19:01There's your NFL standings and your 3-0 teams.
19:03The Eagles can join the ranks tonight.
19:04They play the Dolphins next week.
19:06I'm going to 4-0.
19:08Yeah.
19:09Jeremy and Joe on a Victory Monday here on WGR.
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