00:04something dan campbell said to us yesterday inspired a conversation we want to have this
00:09morning before we do that i want to pass along an update on the simon edvinson front
00:18he's not in detroit he's not in the country he's skating in sweden he's training with
00:25for linda right now this is an absolute embarrassment and we've used that word a lot
00:33for the red wings but guys this was the layup this is a restricted free agent a good player
00:38who wanted to be here he didn't sign any offer sheets he didn't play footsie with any other
00:44teams he showed up to camp without a contract negotiated in good faith and was a good soldier
00:50and now on the eve of the season he doesn't have a locker because they don't know what they're
00:56doing and now he has to go over to sweden so he doesn't just sit on a couch that's how
01:01they botched
01:02this so bad this is probably worse than waiting two months to fire steve eiserman or move on from
01:12steve eiserman it's to me it's even worse than the interim general manager and then it brings up
01:20the question like can he do the job and is he allowed to do the job if you can't get
01:27one of
01:28these if you can't get simon edvinson signed like i don't what's the holdup i couldn't tell you the
01:37reporting that i had seen is it just the fact that he wants seven years and they're only willing to
01:41do a
01:42bridge of what four which again every industry person has said a bridge is stupid the contracts
01:47are spiking the cap is now soaring he's a good player if you plan on having him here for a
01:53long
01:53time it only gets more expensive you don't have enough good players for you to get in this well
01:59is he i don't know if he's a true number one defenseman let's make him earn it on a shorter
02:02term what does this organization think they're doing you're lucky he wants to be here john i've reached
02:10the point if i was his agent i would be seeking offer sheets from other teams just to force detroit
02:15to either match or let me play somewhere else yeah i mean i don't know who has the most cap
02:20space but
02:20i would be calling them right now going make us an offer seven years commiserate with his play
02:26yeah and we will send it to detroit on their desk first thing in the morning
02:30force them to do their job that they don't seem willing to do
02:35it just it makes no sense it just it absolutely makes no sense they have a good player who wants
02:43to be here imagine that what would be the reason behind him not being extended signed what what is
02:50it they're not offering him a fair deal i get crickets i don't know well john you say the the
02:57no no i understand why like if they're offering a four-year deal i understand why he's not signing
03:01that yeah yeah your question was a fair one is this that the interim gm is not capable of doing
03:06this job or is he being obstructed right it's one of the two and i don't like either outcome
03:12let him do his job okay no more obstructing there shouldn't be any obstructing he and if he is doing
03:20his job then he shouldn't be the gm anymore if you can't get the most obvious deal done i agree
03:27shortest interim gm ever like think about like the larkin thing is a booby trap right it's layered
03:33with landmines and barbed wire and don't step over there that's a tough situation this is a piece of
03:39cake right to brink it and figuring it out and he is a pending free agent and you got to
03:44sort this is
03:45the easy one he's restricted you can match any offer he's a good player his asking price publicly has
03:51not been quinn hughes kale mccarr it's been half of that lock him up and move on get him to
03:58camp so
03:59you have a good player out there unbelievable quick phone call and then uh and then we'll shift gears
04:05jacob good morning yo yo good morning john go blue cookies my brother what's up what's up
04:12so you guys can maybe make sense of this for me simon edmondson is too good to add into a
04:18trade for
04:19quinn hughes but not good enough to get an extension long term oh boy oh boy that's right
04:28so uh cook like you man i'm a season ticket holder was a season ticket holder i uh canceled my
04:34my deal
04:34this year um and i decided with one of my buddies that i'm gonna go to opening night and not
04:40only am
04:40i gonna go to opening night i'm gonna boo and i got a sign that says boo and i got
04:46a sign that says
04:47need a gm and i got a sign that says where's dylan um this is gonna be a bad season
04:54man
04:55i'm more invested in the pwhl than i am yeah man i i hear you i'm look you got out
05:02of it i i'm on the
05:03hook for this year this is what it is i'll take in the sights and scenes fans like that are
05:10going to
05:11be all we got there's no uh there's no exit ramp for you no other than trying to sell tickets
05:17that's gonna be a fun adventure i'll let you know how that goes yeah yeah not much of a market
05:21i can
05:21imagine i think we listed sunday we'll see if anyone wants to buy them hi tbd we'll see kelsey
05:30lower the price again take 20 off we'll see if it finds its way into the overreactions on monday
05:36boy anyway i i just when we're talking about a team that like what are they going to do with
05:46dylan larkin like and if if if the if their philosophy is we still want to win now we still
05:53want to get better if that's the philosophy why is this not why is this not taken care of john
05:59it's
05:59such a good point because all the what little we get from the team it seems to be you know
06:04they
06:05didn't want to trade larkin for futures they still don't want to trade him for futures uh the the
06:09interim gm said a rebuild is absolutely off the table how do you and how do you plan on making
06:15the
06:15playoffs if edvinson doesn't play for an extended stretch is it is it question is it good to throw
06:21away six to ten games right now for a team that wants to make the playoffs no you need to
06:25say no
06:25points going to matter thank you with all these home games seven out of eight are at home you know
06:29you could entertain them getting off to a decent start well you might not have two of your top five
06:34players out there oh boy good stuff like so it is just i can't understand where when they say the
06:44words we want it we still want to win now and we want to be competitive now we want to
06:51try and find
06:51a way to get into the postseason now but then their actions say something completely different like
06:58what are we to believe what are we to make of it how are we supposed to connect those dots
07:03but i think
07:03the problem is they don't the dots don't connect right the dots don't connect because they're
07:07dysfunctional the dots don't connect because they aren't able to do the job effectively and i'll go
07:11back to either you can't do the job as interim gm or you're not being allowed to do the job
07:19neither is good one is worse than the other because because if if you're being obstructed it doesn't
07:26matter who the gm was and that was you know the eiser bots defense was always look he was the
07:31wall
07:32holding back the dysfunction and i don't think it it i'm certainly not trying to do revisionist
07:37history eiserman didn't do enough but there are people who are saying see see right he was the
07:43semblance of credibility and stability the last shred that we had well and and is larkin sitting
07:49there going see see see like maybe he'll be in for lunda i don't know
07:58that would be hilarious uh okay i said dan campbell uh joined us yesterday he said something very
08:03interesting that we wanted to have a broader conversation about we'll do that uh coming up
08:07next 248-539-9797 certainly not going to turn away angry red wing fans but do got to do a
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