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Scott Anderson, Marc Ryan, and producer Khang open the segment talking about the Detroit Lions' upcoming game in Germany, taking a call from Richard about his Wembley Stadium experience and debating whether the NFL is forcing American football onto Europe—or ever realistically putting a full-time franchise in London.

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00:06welcome back to karshan anderson gator with you today along with mark ryan and for doug karsh doug
00:11will be back hopefully tomorrow uh and if he is he'll be doing the show from oregon getting ready
00:16for the michigan oregon ducks game uh that's got a little more intrigue we'll get into that coming
00:21up in the uh later on in the show uh let's get back to the phones and richard is next
00:27up here
00:27on a cell richard welcome to 97.1 hey richard guys how you guys how you doing all right
00:33this is bringing back some memories so my wife and i are we're we got married about 11 plus years
00:39ago
00:39and decided to visit friends in london and then the turned out that it coincided with the lions
00:46playing the chiefs and an amazing experience because besides the pubs where you'd see lion fans
00:54at wembley stadium it's like a big it's sort of the way the silver dome was in terms that it
00:58was
00:58very open the land around it so you saw people pouring in and jerseys from every kind soccer
01:05jerseys first football jerseys every nfl team was represented lots of lions and so every time you
01:10met eyes with somebody there's a lion fan there's lots of high fives it was really a tremendous fun
01:16experience lots of great energy until the game started and then lions i think went down 21 nothing
01:23in the first quarter or something like that and a lot of the joy of it went was gone but
01:28the
01:28experience was really amazing so i would recommend if anybody had the chance to do it they should do
01:33it it's really it's something it's a much different experience than going to a um you know game at home
01:40even or even on the road yeah it certainly sounds uh i mean the whole going into a whole different
01:47country different culture and all that and and you're bringing your culture with you
01:52with american football and seeing how it's received over there and um it's it's received
01:58better now i think that it than it has in the past they're doing a much better job i think
02:03of
02:03promoting it and you know maybe getting some better matchups over there uh i mean this is a team that
02:10was competing for the super bowl with with new england and then you've got of course the detroit
02:13lions been one of the better teams in football over the last four years do you think it's connecting
02:17over you know in other countries the way the nfl would hope because it really is the only sport
02:23that nobody else plays so you're trying to get a country into a sport that they have
02:28no familiarity with i won't believe that that's the case until you're telling me that you know
02:36kids in dulcet dorth were playing american football or the kids in london are playing american football
02:42instead of playing soccer you know what i mean or instead of rugby or whatever once you start seeing
02:47like 10 year old kids and having football leagues all throughout those countries where it's become
02:53popular then i'm not going to buy into it otherwise i think it's just novelty uh i know that there's
03:00lots
03:00of speculation that the jaguars are just biding their time before they move over across the pond but
03:07they're also building a new stadium um here in jacksonville but because the owner uh and what he
03:12has going it's that's the thought and that would just be the first step in getting a whole division
03:17of teams playing in europe would you be down with that no i don't want it like that i i
03:23think that's
03:23getting i think that's getting too crazy um it's the one sport where logistically it could work
03:30maybe i mean yeah because they only play once a week and i get that part of it but for
03:35me
03:37it's still too early to plan that i think you need to to come up with smoother uh ways of
03:43approaching a schedule i think the 17 weeks 17 game thing is is too much and they're already
03:48talking about adding an 18th game and does that add another bye week and if you do add another bye
03:53week does that make more sense planning it around a game overseas yeah i mean it's a discussion i don't
03:58like having we've had it and i don't mind having it here it's just i i well i said i
04:03don't like
04:03having it here we are having it um i just i don't it's it's like we're forcing it on on
04:10on another
04:12country or another continent to say accept our our sport and i don't know i don't think they're
04:17there yet will it happen in my lifetime probably yeah but i don't think this is something that
04:22should happen and force it to happen in the next 10 years if you're an nfl free agent tight end
04:28gator
04:29and uh london has an offer sheet for you is it you would rather go to cleveland or would you
04:37consider
04:37playing in london with london calling um i mean i don't know i'd rather stay in the states than go
04:47overseas okay and look there's a lot of other things to consider too financially and you know
04:52what it's like to live there have you know immerse yourself in a whole different world basically
04:57um and i mean england might be an easier transition because of the language it's not a language barrier
05:02uh unless you go to northern england who knows what the hell they say um closer to scotland but
05:09you go to another country that like is spain they speak spanish and there's plenty people speak
05:13english throughout the world right but there's there's lots of barriers that are there a lot of
05:18obstacles that you have to overcome i'm not ready for it i'm not ready for it and i don't think
05:22the
05:22nfl is really truly ready for it uh in the next 10 years but we'll see um like i said
05:28i'm not a big
05:29a big fan of it i i think having a number of weeks that you get over you know whether
05:35it's five or six
05:35weeks you want to flood it and have multiple games that's fine but spreading it out throughout this
05:41season is just uh it's it's it's a bit much uh all right let's get to this red wing stuff
05:46um
05:46because elliot friedman who's you know what the adam shefter of the uh of the nhl world uh throws a
05:55lot of stuff out there and he appeared on a a podcast recently called oilers now with bob stauffer
06:02and had some things to say about the dylan larkin situation with the red wings and a team that is
06:10really really really trying to make an effort to acquire dylan larkin
06:38so if that's the reported compensation coming back to the red wings is forward danilla you're off
06:45and three first round picks now the three first round picks sounds like an awful lot right particularly
06:50after we're coming off the nfl trade deadline and i think people automatically equate well the nfl trade
06:56you'll take three first round picks yeah nfl is different than the nhl you know there there aren't
07:02as many like sure things in the nhl as there are in the nfl and if you were to accept
07:08a trade with
07:09minnesota and acquire those picks you know are you looking at the end of the draft in in getting
07:15picks that are in the mid 20s because minnesota finishes so high in in uh in the playoffs um it
07:23looks a little bit different all right fair enough but let's look at the player you're off
07:27he's 22 years old and he's not doing anything special this year he started off playing pretty well
07:35i think he had four goals in the first eight games or something like that but he's got six goals
07:38total
07:39in 20 games he has seven points total in six games so he's on pace for like a 30 point
07:46season
07:47you're giving up a player that's a proven 30 goal scorer and approaches 40 goals you're giving up a
07:53player that was the captain of the red wings for a long time that doesn't have to be the captain
07:57when
07:57he goes over to minnesota he gets to play with his buddies and relax with quinn hughes and and boldly
08:02and
08:02others this is people are going to be upset with this or they're going to understand this and this
08:09is which side of the larkin argument do you side with do you side with with red wings with the
08:15red
08:15wings on this or on larkin with this it seems on paper like it's a pretty fair offer and i
08:20think
08:21for the most part it is but the problem is what the red wings want in return the red wings
08:25don't
08:25want future compensation as much as they want a player that helps them out right now
08:31and if they accept a you're off for larkin that's you're off into three first round picks
08:36what are they getting with you're off i don't think they're getting anything any close to what
08:41dylan larkin is you're getting a question mark you're getting you're getting a guy who's you know
08:46underperforming this year but he's only 22 he's got a chance to get better but at 22 in the nhl
08:51and
08:51this is only his second year what is he really i mean he's got certainly has chance to get better
08:56and then you're taking a chance with three lottery picks not lottery picks lottery tickets
09:00as we like to say on the show because they're first round picks uh and and that's enticing but
09:05that's clearly not what the red wings want the red wings want to get a player that's going to help
09:09them right now in a more significant way than say danilo yuroff would so i am on the other side
09:17of
09:17the fence as you are on dylan larkin versus the team i understand why he wants out i too would
09:23ask for
09:24a trade i would not make this trade with minnesota and i wouldn't make it not out of spite first
09:29of
09:29all what what do all these teams on his list have in common he doesn't have to be the man
09:33almost
09:34anywhere well all the teams on his list have one thing in common that the top 10 teams in the
09:37national
09:38hockey league to win the stanley cup and he doesn't have to be the guy and at any of them
09:41if you're
09:42giving up dylan larkin i need a blue chip piece what definitive blue chip piece am i getting back in
09:49that
09:49deal i'll wait anything right you're not definitive blue chip piece am i getting back
09:56so you better be giving me a top five pick top 10 pick in the draft you better be giving
10:01me a blue
10:02chip prospect that i believe is can't miss yeah you're giving me the island of misfit toys you you
10:08are giving me picks in the late to mid to late 20s and a forward who isn't showing a hell
10:14of a lot of
10:16promise yeah so i mean so you wouldn't make this trade if you were the red wings no i wouldn't
10:20make
10:20this trade if i was a red wings now ken you've got a different side on this because you're more
10:24on larkin side yeah no nothing has changed for me listen if you're mad at dylan larkin i totally
10:28get it as a fan okay you're upset that this the captain doesn't want to be here for you feel
10:31like
10:32he's abandoning you but we've moved beyond that right like these two are going to get divorced no
10:36matter what so my thing is you're you're you have to get something for him because he will never
10:41play for you again it's it's a spiteful move to think you can get more it's like you have this
10:4650 winning ticket over here okay but you keep telling everybody this is worth 100 i'm not giving
10:51up but guess what if you cash in for 50 right now you have 50 otherwise you have nothing and
10:56to me
10:56the wings have nothing and they're gonna say well the larkin doesn't play either yes he realizes that
11:01he's getting fined every time he doesn't care he's want to pay the fine move me and i think that's
11:07why
11:07dylan larkin decided to stop playing because he knows him and his agent knows there's offers on
11:11the table that are sufficient that you should be taking you're not taking it and i know you're
11:15making me go out there and play where i could get hurt i don't want to be here all this
11:18stuff so
11:19if you think you can get more fine but no one else has come to the table with more because
11:23you
11:23haven't traded him i just want one blue chip piece that's it but it's nobody on his list his
11:28precious list that's the thing that's what he earned though unfortunately you're the one who signed
11:32i mean i guess you and i also disagree on this because he's the one that asked for the trade
11:36in the
11:36first place and he's got the no trade clause so i mean it's kind of like counterintuitive to what
11:42the no trade clause is there for the no trade clause is there in theory initially although now
11:46it's being used in a completely different way uh but initially it's it's to protect yourself if
11:51you're going to be traded by that team to somewhere you don't want to go he's the one that asked
11:56for
11:56the trade he should probably add more teams to the list rather than third the league i mean we're
12:01going to disagree on this and that's totally fine you know yeah i'm not ready to punch you
12:04you're not ready to mf me about it either i just see who's more side of his than than other
12:09people
12:09do i guess there's other there's one other big part of this and you touched on it you say you
12:14understand his reasons for leaving nobody knows his reasons for leaving nobody knows it he hasn't
12:20said a word publicly and as far as we know he hasn't even told the red wings why he wants
12:25out
12:25because he feels like he's wasting his career he hasn't said anything he doesn't want to be the
12:30mike trout of the nhl you don't know why he wants out right you have no i mean you we
12:36can speculate
12:36sure but from my understanding the red wings don't even know why he wants out because he hasn't
12:41articulated that to them he just said get me out okay now there's other report that says that there
12:48are a couple teams that have made offers or ready to make an offer that would be way better than
12:53this
12:53that would be something red wings would accept but there are teams that aren't on his list
12:58248-539-9797 is the telephone number or this saga as it continues here we'll talk about it next
13:03on 97.1

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