00:02all right we will get to your phone calls in a moment things are afoot today
00:05this is one of those days where it feels like there's chaos happening out in the sports world
00:11that um you know you just talked about max crosby but another max has entered the chat
00:18and that is max bultman of the athletic who tweets out the following
00:24dylan larkin will not play tonight todd mcclellan says sean horkoff will address the situation
00:36um if a player is injured the gm doesn't need to address the situation no and when larkin wasn't
00:44at practice yesterday they they said it was a maintenance day if the player larkin will play
00:49against chicago if a player isn't is just going to get a rest the gm doesn't need to address the
00:56situation
00:59if the player tells the team i'm not playing anymore until i get traded well if the player is about
01:07to
01:07get traded or if the team decides they're shutting the player down until he removes his trade demand
01:17like what is what is this these are all i will say two of the three i thought of the
01:23one i didn't
01:23think of was larkin saying i'm going to sit out until i get traded and enforcing a hand if that
01:29if
01:29that's what's going on we'll wait to hear what sean horkoff has to say about this however this is
01:36really an interesting development because i was thinking aloud to myself the other day uh yesterday
01:42in fact after we found out that larkin was out of practice and then they said maintenance day and i
01:46got
01:46home and i'm like well should the red wings even play him like if a trade is imminent you just
01:52saw
01:52him score he looks healthy take him out of the lineup until you trade him and this goes in line
02:00with uh you know a little bit with uh with the situation we had in our nfl questions you know
02:07do
02:07you do you sit somebody out yeah uh to try to facilitate that trade if you know you're going to
02:12move the guy why play him and risk injury and now that they've shown for you know 10 games or
02:17whatever
02:18it is that larkin has played he's healthy he's good you just saw him score in edmonton tie things
02:23up at 3-3 and then the wings won in the shootout he's good let's get serious with the offers
02:28and
02:28let's let's get the trade going this this feels like this is not insignificant news today no it's not
02:36now that's just one scenario you laid out three scenarios and yeah this is interesting because there are
02:40three possible scenarios here and one the other one that's really strong is that maybe dylan larkin's
02:45camp said i'm gonna sit out now's the time i i've done what i can you i've given you guys
02:52more teams
02:52to work with i expected this to be this be done by now and it's not so this is all
02:56i can i feel like
02:57the biggest impediment to him getting traded is his own list like honestly he's he's including where he
03:03wants to play and where he wants to play only there are teams out there that i think would meet
03:07the
03:07red wings price they're just not on his list well certainly reportedly yeah i guess montreal
03:12is is key in that i guess 248-539-9797 well we've got this huge nfl trade with jeffrey simmons
03:20going
03:20from the titans to the bears for two firsts and a fourth you've got dylan larkin not playing tonight
03:26and the gm is going to address the situation it's just a matter of when now and we are we're
03:32paying
03:32attention hit refresh hit refresh hit refresh because at some point soon i imagine we'll hear
03:39that the red wings are going to have horkoff in front of a microphone uh let's go to mike in
03:44westland you're on 971 what's up mike oh hello gentlemen i hate to be the guy to throw cold water
03:49on the topic but i want to make this point you ever you know back in the day doug before
03:54you married your
03:55wife or date her you had a girl that you really wanted to date but she just didn't like you
03:59but you
04:00kept asking her out and trying to find a new way to you know impress her but you knew in
04:05the back of
04:05your mind it just wasn't going to happen and you had to let it go that's what i think lions
04:09fans are
04:10like with brad holmes making a big trade at the deadline i think in the back of all of our
04:14minds
04:14we just know it's not going to happen because that's not the way that he constructs his roster
04:20and builds a team he does it slow and steady through the draft and he signs his own players
04:26to long-term deals so we can throw out max crosby we can throw out budda baker we can throw
04:31our insert
04:32cornerback here and i think it's just a moot point because i don't think that brad is going to make
04:37a move i think he signed jalen mills to the practice squad i think he's going to look at
04:41ennis rake's draw and the guys that he has you know coming back from injury with branch
04:46and kirby joseph and i just don't think it's brad's mo to go out there and make a move even
04:52if
04:52every gm around him in his conference in his division is doing it i don't think brad is going
04:59to do it and i think we all know in the back of our minds that's what's really going to
05:04happen at
05:04the trade deadline nothing well i could agree with you i could agree with you mike but then we'd both
05:10be
05:10wrong oh i see what you're there i just completely disagree that he won't do it he he's first of
05:18all
05:18he's made trades at the trade deadline and and one of them turned out to help the team quite a
05:24bit
05:24and that's that's the minimum of what we're asking for here and he's done it before if you were to
05:29if
05:29i were to tell you that they made a trade for an edge rusher that came in and gave him
05:34five sacks the
05:34rest of the season that was significant in that time and for that season um now they did it didn't
05:40end with them cutting down nets but i would uh i would argue that that was a significant trade for
05:46that team at that time was it jeffrey simmons for two first was a max crosby no i would be
05:52i i fully
05:53expect him to make a trade that helps the team it wasn't even a joey porter trade though either it
05:58was a fifth round pick for the dairy well that one pissed me off the line had died his whole
06:02defensive
06:03line had died yeah this this this well here is secondary has and i and i so i expect them
06:10to address
06:10it i expect them to look in house and look at the guys they have and say we've got branch
06:15and joseph
06:15potentially coming back we've got rake straw playing we find jaylen mills i think he's going
06:20to look the other way and say we want to see what we have in house so we well we'll
06:25see we'll find out
06:26in the end um if he does make a trade i you know i always i struggle with not being
06:33critical of trades
06:34that aren't made because i remember a gm once telling me what the offer was and what the team wanted
06:40and i was thinking oh my god no and do you remember last year who was the reliever david bednar
06:46pittsburgh wanted they wanted uh max clark and you know that that was not a deal that the the tigers
06:54were going to make and and now i'm pretty good with it i mean it worked out well it's that
07:00that was
07:00a good trade that they didn't make now at the end of the day uh you know this is this
07:07is one of
07:07those deals where he i feel i feel like people completely dismiss the ziggy answer trade that
07:16was a helpful ziggy answer why did i go ziggy answer i'm not sure why you said darius smith
07:20starts with a z like the answer was pretty good for lines for the darius smith take two and three
07:25two
07:25one that was a helpful trade at the trade deadline zadarius smith was so you know and he's never
07:35going to do anything well that was something well it was okay uh it wasn't it didn't move the
07:40it wasn't jeffrey simmons i can't know it wasn't jeffrey simmons but it also was just it was kind
07:45of you know keeping up with what they had um but i think this is a this is a time
07:50where they need to
07:50make a bold move and again you have to have the other side the other teams have to be willing
07:56to
07:57part with the player that you need or that you want you desire we'll see how let me ask you
08:01a
08:01question they're going to be do you wish the lines have made this exact move for simmons yep no why
08:07isn't why wouldn't you have done that um that's not because that's not the position that i'm looking for
08:14but the bears don't need it i know they did it i know i think it's what it brings about
08:20is
08:20an interesting way to look at it i wouldn't want the defensive tackle but i would want the
08:23defensive end if i'm going to go and bolster the strength i guess i'd rather do it for a defensive
08:29end than do it for a defensive tackle kang do you wish the lions had made this move not a
08:33route for
08:33radio like look if they made that move we'd have 10 lines packed for the next two weeks but if
08:38if if
08:38you from a football perspective do you wish they made this move oh that's a tough one because
08:45i think i'm with you initially gator like no they don't need a dt but i'm not gonna lie if
08:52it came
08:53down today and it was announced the lions had traded a traded for jeffrey simmons i'd be like oh my
08:58god
08:58this defensive line is just studly at this point right and you'd be excited because you're getting
09:04excited about the player and then at some point it would sink in two first round picks for
09:09is it redundancy with what they have and and you still have you know water coming through the roof
09:16you know it's like hey i bought another car i still got water coming through my roof right
09:23sure but that's a little apples oranges because in this case your defensive line can help your
09:28secondary out fixing the floors in your house isn't necessarily going to help the roof out you know
09:33so i know you're trying to say doug yeah we still have secondary issues but in football they can help
09:39one another they can complement each other a little bit um but ultimately doug you're asking me the
09:44question what i want the lines to do this trade probably not yeah and i'm kind of with you gator
09:48maybe because the edge is the sexier position but if it was max crosby i'd be like oh all right
09:54we've got some serious help now on defense it's karshan anderson huge trade just goes down in the nfl
10:01brad holmes has to see this i i can't imagine that it doesn't impact his calculus as to what they
10:08need to do next the question is what is it there is a list out of there out out there
10:13now by a major
10:14media outlet tier one impact players tier two tier three i know where people think that the lions will
10:22shop from but could they get into tier one and not go tier three we'll get to some of those
10:29names
10:29next here on karshan anderson on 97 one
