00:00Three o'clock, good to have you with us.
00:02I want to congratulate Paul Serra.
00:04He has earned his first pair of drops unwittingly.
00:07We turn our attention to college football, and I offer you this.
00:12I think this is the most effective way to do this, and certainly I think you'll get more
00:17Michigan fans.
00:18But I want to welcome both Michigan and Michigan State fans to the table, and I want to ask
00:23you this question.
00:24In a hypothetical world, although one of these I truly believe it's going to happen,
00:31more on that in a second, in a hypothetical world, if you could just have a do-over with
00:40your latest football coach and staff, would you choose to use it?
00:46Meaning, season's end, you admit you made a mistake, you admit it was FUBAR from the
00:54beginning, and in the case of a Michigan fan, you say, that's it.
00:59One and done.
01:01Now, let me be clear.
01:03I actually think that's on the table.
01:05I actually think Witt's not back in 27.
01:08He looks like Jonathan Smith, 2.0, deep regret, doesn't belong here, doesn't understand it
01:17here, low energy, saying zany things, and the product on the field is morbid.
01:24Meanwhile, the school that pushed him out, and all the players who told him to blow it
01:29out his backside, they're in the top 10 and going to the playoff.
01:33I think you're going to get your do-over.
01:36The AD who hired him, he's gone.
01:39The new AD would want their own guy, and depending who you talk to, Michigan may be losing some
01:46donor support, and that's your first way out of town.
01:51So, I'm asking, all this conversation about Beck, Underwood, Carr, the O-line, whatever you
02:00think it is or is not, if I offered you a do-over, would you take it?
02:06Michigan State is more complicated.
02:08Let me say this for the people in the back, because boy, I'll tell you, some Spartan fans
02:12are very low intellect.
02:14Oh, boy.
02:14I want to be very careful.
02:16I want to talk to you like you're a second grader.
02:18Right in front of you.
02:19I do not, not you, I have no animus towards Pat Fitzgerald.
02:24Just because I didn't like the hire or want him here doesn't mean I think he's bad or somehow
02:31completely malfeasant in his duties this year.
02:35My issue at Michigan State and why I wouldn't do a do-over is, the AD who hired Pat Fitzgerald,
02:41not here anymore.
02:42My do-over would have been President, AD, NIL, process.
02:47You brought in Pat Fitzgerald.
02:49The best hope was six and six.
02:51That's what Rico and I were hoping for.
02:52Could they win six games?
02:54Pre-injury, we knew they were not good.
02:57With the injuries, they're the worst team in power four.
03:01Would a do-over really work?
03:04But here's the thing.
03:05If you're a Spartan, you're getting, it's the commercial.
03:09I got you a dollar.
03:10And they're dangling the hope the money cannon's going to get turned on.
03:14Okay.
03:15You sure you want to hand it to this guy?
03:19I don't believe Witt's back in 27.
03:22I don't.
03:23Fitz is absolutely back.
03:25But I wanted to offer it to Spartan fans on a hypothetical level.
03:28For Michigan fans, Rico, I think it's very real.
03:32I don't believe this guy's back.
03:34I think it was a dumb hire.
03:36I think they got desperate.
03:37I think it's very similar to Matt Campbell at Penn State.
03:39Penn State wanted three or four other people.
03:42They didn't land him.
03:43Michigan wanted three, four other people.
03:45Didn't land him.
03:46This dude's a million years old.
03:48And you're saying that they may be losing some boosters, right?
03:51Yes.
03:51See, the fact that they may be losing some boosters,
03:55now if you want to do a double or nothing,
03:57I will take this back because I do think he's back.
03:59Because if you're losing boosters,
04:01you need those boosters to buy him out
04:03so that you can move on to go somewhere else and get another coach.
04:08All right.
04:08Because.
04:09What's the terms?
04:10Well, we're here to six.
04:12We'll figure it out.
04:13All right.
04:14But I.
04:17It's interesting how you put that.
04:19As far as Pat Fitzgerald goes.
04:23I was there saying because I was one of the people in the back.
04:28It was not directed at you.
04:30We heard you clearly.
04:31It was not directed at you.
04:33The fact that he was brought in while the portal had already opened.
04:38So all the good people were gone.
04:40He was at a disadvantage.
04:41He didn't get the money that he was promised that I,
04:44I think that he was kind of hamstrung.
04:46He caught.
04:47He just went.
04:48And,
04:49and bought together a roster from dollar general and dollar tree,
04:54put them out there.
04:55A lot of people got hurt.
04:56A lot of people got injured.
04:58But then you said something.
05:01I think he comes back.
05:03Of course he does.
05:04No,
05:04no.
05:04I wouldn't do the do over because I think that the players want to play for him.
05:09I think he understands what the big 10 is about.
05:13But then you hit that caveat,
05:15Mike,
05:15then had me frozen in my tracks.
05:18Do I want him shopping?
05:21Do I want him and his staff going out there and spending this money off a two
05:27and 10 season?
05:28That's where I was like,
05:30Oh no,
05:30Mike.
05:30I don't,
05:31I don't.
05:31Oh boy.
05:32That's because I don't think that they have the,
05:36the quote unquote elephant hunter recruiter who can just go out there and
05:41sell ice cubes to Eskimos.
05:43They don't have that person.
05:46So I don't know what all of that money,
05:48what you're going to get back in return and the tax you're going to pay on it.
05:53you're going to pay a tax for being two and 10.
05:55I'm glad you,
05:56yeah,
05:56that I saw that a long time.
05:58They're like,
05:58you're like,
05:58you're right.
05:59Money.
06:00Yes,
06:00you can,
06:01but you need oil money,
06:02right?
06:03You would need the better part of $50 million to truly pay the tax that will
06:07be placed upon you and turn this thing on a dime.
06:10And that's if your evals are right.
06:12Right.
06:12And that's,
06:13and then it also goes into,
06:14you know,
06:15are you,
06:16are you looking at this as an instant,
06:18an impact with 24 teams?
06:19Are you right in the playoffs?
06:21Or are you still trying to do the slow progress?
06:22As far as Michigan goes,
06:25I could see we made a mistake because it's different from Michigan.
06:30And I can't speak for Michigan fans.
06:32I'll leave that to David.
06:33But if I was a Michigan fan,
06:35I would want that because you were given resources and you had people here.
06:41And it has not gone well.
06:43And you know,
06:44he came out and said,
06:45I'm not going to change for you.
06:46You're going to change to the program.
06:48And this is just the running game that used to be able to run last year.
06:53Can't this year.
06:54Like your defense is the only thing that's,
06:56that's holding you up.
06:58Take away that defense.
07:00And you're probably,
07:02you and Michigan state are the Spider-Man me because your offense is awful.
07:06By the way,
07:06that game in two weeks.
07:08I don't know anyone who's watching that.
07:10No,
07:11that will be the most pathetic offensive display ever.
07:15Yeah.
07:16They're both outside the top 110 in offense in this country.
07:19Do you realize that?
07:20I got something for you since you brought that up,
07:23David,
07:23if I'm what,
07:24what do you realize Michigan's passing offense is so bad.
07:33MSU has better numbers playing four quarterbacks this year.
07:37That's not possible.
07:38It is.
07:38I just refuse to accept that.
07:40Okay.
07:40I,
07:41I know what you're saying is probably true,
07:43but I would prefer if it,
07:44if it's not,
07:45when you go down those rabbit holes and you're just like,
07:47Oh my God,
07:48the,
07:49I told that Michigan defense it's elite.
07:52That's excellent.
07:52And it is keeping you above water because their numbers offensively between
07:58Michigan and Michigan state.
08:00Now grant state played an extra game and,
08:02and,
08:03and Michigan hasn't.
08:04So there's a guy about to be even out.
08:06Mike,
08:07they're almost on the same level.
08:09That's insane.
08:10Wow.
08:11Well,
08:12I'll throw the number and look for the Michigan thing.
08:15If you want to play the blame game,
08:16you want Beck gone.
08:17Here's all I would say to you.
08:19Has it ever occurred to you that your players suck?
08:22Like,
08:23is there,
08:23are we leaving room for that in the blame equation?
08:26Like,
08:27what do you want Beck to do?
08:28Both your quarterbacks aren't any good.
08:30One's a true freshman.
08:31The kid's got no shot.
08:33The other looks like the,
08:34a huge recruiting bust.
08:35Your O-line isn't the same.
08:37Cause they're playing a different scheme.
08:39Your five-star running back ain't much.
08:41You got a couple of nice receivers,
08:43but neither one of those are Jeremiah Smith or,
08:45or Legree out at Oregon state.
08:46Now let's be clear.
08:47Marsh and Buchanan,
08:48good players.
08:49You don't have the prototypical tight ends you've had.
08:53And you want to put it all on,
08:55on Beck.
08:55Okay.
08:56Do whatever you want.
08:57Fire Beck.
08:58I don't think it,
08:59I don't think you're looking at the main thing.
09:02You don't have good players.
09:05And you got a coach who looks so confused.
09:10I mean,
09:10Kyle Whittingham looks like a guy.
09:11You got to put an air tag in his pocket.
09:13So,
09:13so his kids can find them.
09:16Hey,
09:16I'm out for my walk.
09:17We know we're tracking you.
09:20I would absolutely be done with one,
09:22one and done.
09:23Let's try this again.
09:24Cause you know who what I hear?
09:25I'll just take it a step further.
09:27You know who I'd go higher.
09:28I'd offer him whatever he wants.
09:29I go,
09:30I go hire Bob Chesney in a heartbeat.
09:32Yeah.
09:32I always,
09:33he's a West.
09:34He's not a West coast guy.
09:35He's a Midwest guy.
09:36And he's wanted every stop.
09:38He'll have players to bring.
09:39He's got a top 20 recruiting class,
09:41including a five-star.
09:43I'd hire Bob Chesney in a heartbeat.
09:44What do you want?
09:4510 million?
09:45You want 12?
09:46You want 15?
09:47He flipped UCLA.
09:48Not a powerhouse.
09:49Correct.
09:50It's been a long time since Aikman played.
09:51Correct.
09:52Yeah.
09:52Bring him here.
09:53Witt's not recruit.
09:54What's Witt we're going to recruit?
09:55He's a zillion.
09:57He was pushed into retirement for a reason.
10:00He was no better than your fourth choice.
10:02I'm asking Michigan fans.
10:04You tell me.
10:05You could play the blame game,
10:06but if you could have a do-over,
10:08would you take it?
10:10Spartan fans,
10:10it's strictly hypothetical for you.
10:12There is no world states getting rid of Fitzgerald.
10:14It's not happening.
10:15No,
10:15but that caveat at the end,
10:17Mike,
10:17that's the one that froze me dead in the tracks.
10:20Yeah.
10:20You put the juke move on me and just like,
10:22oh,
10:23okay.
10:23Wow.
10:24Because again,
10:24it's,
10:25you don't have relationships.
10:26You're trying to build them.
10:28You,
10:29you didn't bring players year one.
10:32No disrespect to Nick Sheridan or Joe Rossi,
10:35but I don't think they're knocking anyone's door down.
10:38Like,
10:38oh,
10:38bro,
10:39bro,
10:39I got to go play for this guy.
10:41What exactly are they going to bring in?
10:43Well,
10:44here's the,
10:45I got some,
10:45I'll give you the numbers and I got some news,
10:48some good news for Michigan fans.
10:51I'll give you that next.
10:51What,
10:52Whittingham re-retired?
10:53Nah.
