00:00i'm going to be creative and i'm going to try to do something nuanced and it will be a slandered
00:05misconstrued and a lot of people who are willfully dishonest just won't want to engage in the
00:11conversation so outside of that let's have a party okay can i ask you a real quick question
00:15before you get started what do you need because i was just talking to david our wonderful producer
00:19back there i just have a question for you what do you want i said that if michigan beat indiana
00:25they could possibly run the table so i give you this choice and death is not an option okay my
00:31option of michigan winning this game running the table or msu going out to ucla and winning that
00:39game against the bruins this weekend you have to pick one okay um one game proposition versus needing
00:47seven outcomes i'll just play the odds i would take state okay not that i think that has any chance
00:52of
00:53happening um but i'm glad you segued into it i'm gonna bring this up and i have to do psa's
00:59because
00:59people are just hyenas and i don't feel like dealing with this i know this won't happen because i know
01:09my school is hopeless i also want to say i don't blame nick sheridan for msu looking the way it
01:16does
01:16i don't really have a problem with nick sheridan i do think there are people open on a lot of
01:21good
01:21concepts he's drawn up it's that our quarterback stinks so let me just be clear this isn't some
01:27ad hominem joe rossi attack but let me offer you a bold idea so mike loxley got canned at maryland
01:37mike loxley is not a good head coach but mike loxley do you know mike loxley won the broils award
01:43as an oc at bam okay what mike loxley has always been great at is recruiting
01:49he recruits the living hell out of the dmv mike loxley has five-star recruits that he recruited
01:58to maryland that might not be going there anymore he's got four-star recruits you can go look this
02:02is me making it up it's true i know what else he has is a quarterback in malik washington now
02:08again
02:08he had one absolutely disastrous game against ucla that team lost 54 to 3 is he a finished product no
02:16is he some surefire nfl prospect no is he going to be coveted in the portal yes
02:24mike loxley you hire him at msu as your oc why not because nick sheridan's a bad guy did nick
02:31sheridan bring any of his players from alabama he did not if i could get mike loxley who is on
02:38record
02:38is saying i'm not done coaching but i don't want to be a head coach again i understand that
02:45just like i understood why chip kelly didn't want to be a head coach again and what did he do
02:49he went
02:50to ohio state and was an oc and he was damn good and then he went to now he's at
02:54northwestern and he's
02:55doing a really good job there i would just comp it out to a guy like raheem morris in the
03:00nfl
03:00raheem's a terrible head coach he's a very good defensive coordinator he is if you're michigan
03:06state we were just talking about this right with all these coaches and where they're going and what
03:10they're doing if state ends up going two and ten you're not going to be able to just buy your
03:15way
03:15out of that you won't have enough money the tax that's going to get put upon you is going to
03:19be
03:20harsh they're recruiting for this class is in the toilet they're below fresno state people okay
03:29workshop this with me you get a guy that has no designs on being a head coach
03:34he's been a broils award winners in oc he's an elite recruiter in a part of one of the most
03:40talent rich parts of america the dmv the tidewater area the dc corridor whatever you want to call it
03:49he can bring players you could bring in malik washington you could bring in even three or four
03:57of maryland's best recruits maryland has out recruited michigan state yeah they're top running
04:02back just decommitted the second he got right they have a five-star defensive end i'm making a point
04:08i have no issue with nick sheridan this is not slander i don't think nick sheridan's done a terrible
04:13job please let's not do straw man crap if you're trying to pathway your way out of two and ten
04:20if they're gonna launch the money cannon for fits he doesn't have a recruiter on staff
04:26he doesn't who joe rossi who probably hawkins oh really let me add and he gets the kids and he
04:36doesn't play them let me add to your argument because i i we were thinking the same thing about
04:41this nothing against nick sheridan but nick sheridan is learning on the job whereas locksley has actually
04:48done the job and let's just say that he has an epiphany in two years he wants to be a
04:53head coach
04:54again guess what he's gonna get this offense humming why so i can get that next job of being a
05:01head
05:01coach i would have more faith in thinking that he is going to because if he's the offensive coordinator
05:07he doesn't want to be the offensive coordinator for a long time where nick sheridan is just getting
05:13his feet wet and he's still trying to learn stuff i'm with you and the fact that you basically are
05:19bringing in a top recruiter you're going to be locked solid in the dmv and kind of like what a
05:26lot of the new coaches that came with fits couldn't do he's going to bring some people he's going to
05:31bring the best people from maryland with him maybe you can jump start this maybe look it's an idea
05:35no matter how many times i say this i'm not yelling about it i'm not saying launch nick sheridan into
05:41space i wanted to offer you a creative solution in real time that could kick start things because if
05:47you're going to spend the money the way that uh bartholomew says you're going to hand it to a guy
05:52who knows how to go into the home of high profile recruits at maryland and turn the trick and because
06:00what does msu need they need more hoes they need more boats they need talent
06:10you're right because if you don't you end up buying strippers instead of hoes i don't know i i'm you
06:16i'll
06:16leave that power rank of shopping to you i'm just making a point this is a transactional sport and msu
06:22has hired a staff that is incapable of transaction they don't have any recruiters they don't have any
06:28big game hunters and and you got to let go of what you think of loxley i like turtles you
06:33got to let go
06:33what you think about him as head coach to conceptualize this he's he's won the broils award
06:38as an oc and i mean what if he could bring you like right now do you know that alessio
06:43will be
06:43the quarterback next year no okay do you know that msu a will have the money but b will be
06:49able to
06:50recruit after going two and ten a three or four million dollar portal quarterback there's no world
06:57so what if i could bring you malik washington what if i could bring you three or four high
07:03level recruits just to just to kickstart this current class correct and then loxley will have
07:08already been starting to recruit for 2028 and you just and to the point of you have a guy who
07:15has no
07:15designs on being a head coach i want to be the oc kind of like chip kelly for that's my
07:20northwest yes
07:21well we all laughed like i got chip kelly at northwestern but now you're looking at this
07:25northwestern team like we keep laughing but they keep winning yes so i'm just again i hate that i
07:32have to do psa's but this is where we're at in 2026 i'm not anti sheridan i'm not yelling and
07:38screaming
07:39i'm not telling you this is perfect i simply thought it was interesting now if you don't think it's
07:45interesting and you'd like to have a conversation 248-539-9797 if you want to call up and be a
07:52dishonest
07:52bleephole don't call because i'm not interested in what about ism i'm interested in finding pathways
07:59to see if football could be resurrected in east lansing and pardon me if sheridan and company and
08:05joe rossi and the other people that were put together on this staff who brought no players guys
08:11i'm trying to listen to what rico is saying a man who's got two decades in the recruiting space
08:18a guy you've talked to some high level recruits who msu could offer a lot of money and they ain't
08:23picking up the phone i'm trying to find a way to bridge that gap to make it work despite what
08:30some
08:30people believe i don't hate pat fitzgerald here's the thing i just hate that they hired him there's
08:35a difference the biggest thing is and i'm hoping that the coaching staff is not like a lot of fans
08:40you have to realize you have a problem because a lot of fans you don't talk to anybody guys yeah
08:44i do
08:45still i don't do as much recruiting stuff but i still talk to them and you're not that high on
08:52most recruits lists as a matter of fact it comes with a chuckle and yeah not enough money in the
08:57world to get me to go there but you have to jumpstart this thing locksley could help get it going
09:02i like
09:04the idea because here's the thing he's going to be the oc for somebody why not you all right well
09:12i'll
09:12take the slander i just wanted to throw it out there and again locksley generally is recruiting
09:17somewhere between 25 and 40 in america at maryland the guy can recruit i know i don't think much of
09:24him as a coach i know maryland's never put it together but you have to separate some people
09:29are outstanding like matt patricia is the ultimate example i was just about to say that wonderful
09:34defensive coordinator an absolute human pile of refuse as a coach jim schwartz yeah another good
09:41one no you're you see where i'm going yeah like some guys are very few can make the transition and
09:47make and become the coach like you're seeing kind of with ben johnson most are like yeah this guy is
09:52a coordinator and once he realizes it he's okay let's see if we can pass the slander test i want
09:58to
09:58get to david and paul here hold on david go ahead and you have free reign to cackle laugh but
10:02i need
10:03reasons and don't just say well how do you know it'll work i don't i um i'm not gonna cackle
10:11um
10:13it's a brilliant idea oh it's a brilliant idea spartan fans will not like you complimenting me
10:19it's it's brilliant it's okay because i said michigan can run the table so it's freaky friday up in here
10:25we're even yeah uh it's a brilliant idea not just because he's a really good offensive coordinator
10:30it's because he can bring players with him and isn't that what the sport really boils down to
10:35we just talked about it when i know that was a head coach thing but because fitz didn't do it
10:42you
10:42need someone on your staff that can do it so he would be able to do it um and that
10:49running back that
10:49um decommitted from he would easily slide over i'm pretty sure to wherever he goes maybe
10:56david i'm just making a point if you take the last three recruiting classes and you distill it down
11:01are there 15 guys that you'd want at msu off this maryland roster correct and another five guys that are
11:09in this current recruiting class of those 20 players could i get five to seven of them i.e 10
11:16percent of
11:16my real scholarship limit i know there's no limits just work on an 85 scholarship model i need to infuse
11:23talent from sophomore junior senior level but i need a recruiting class fitzgerald's the one who
11:30says i want to build using high school recruiting well you're terrible at it so far and and no offense
11:36i don't think show me it's going to change in 28 show me pat fitzgerald landing top 25 classes
11:42i gotta see it to believe it well what there's probably a reason why you can't look that far i'll
11:51give
11:51that to you oh wow what a tease i'll tell you people that's provocative
