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Willard and Dibs debate if the 49ers need to be aggressive at the trade deadline. Are they actually pretty set at most positions?
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00:00well think about this because um haven't we been talking already like this is the quickest i've
00:05ever seen a fan base pivot to the trade deadline we're i'm like guys we've played one game we can't
00:13you can't start making trades week one and week two you're allowed to but try finding a partner
00:20i don't i don't know how you find a partner but we we dove to the trade deadline and i
00:24do
00:25understand why there's also real quick there's a note about christian kirk um who's eligible to
00:31play after this week's game uh but he won't kyle shannon already announced christian kirk's
00:37practice window will not they will not open that up next week um actually named the washington game
00:43the week after the monday night game week six as a more potential and realistic target for christian
00:49kirk but how aggressive do you want the niners to be do you want them to go get
00:54pass rushers knowing that in this moment nick bosa and michael williams might be back in a week or two
01:02do you want them to go get wide receivers knowing that mike evans is going to give it a go
01:07this week
01:08and demarcus robinson and christian kirk are potentially just a couple of weeks away from
01:15being back in this um romello height is what he's probably going to play this weekend so i don't know
01:24i've got mixed feelings about this because the 49ers look like a potential super bowl contender
01:31so therefore i want the team to be very very aggressive but how aggressive do you get with
01:38acquisitions knowing that the acquisitions and you asked this of lombardi yesterday could the
01:43acquisitions just be dudes who are currently on ir who are supposed to come back those are the
01:48acquisitions honestly and we could talk about odell beckham jr like could you could he help you right
01:54now this weekend i suppose if mike evans doesn't play but then evans is ready for week five and
02:00stripling in week 10 and kirk maybe in week six and so all of a sudden now you've wasted draft
02:06capital
02:06on a rental so that to me is the big issue and i think about trades in the past where
02:11you went out
02:12and you got christian mccaffrey and that team by the way was not a team that had a winning record
02:17i
02:18think they were three and three when they made that trade they were right around 500 but you needed
02:23a running back and you went out and you did that deal you traded a second a third a fourth
02:27and a fifth
02:28for a guy who was not a rental he still is here he will be a forever niner that was
02:33a great deal in
02:34the moment and it was a great deal for the future and all the rest of it so right now
02:38if you make a trade
02:39can you trade for somebody who can be here for two or three years and actually be somebody who is
02:46a
02:46part of what you're doing going forward if the answer is no then you sit tight because you're
02:51getting michael williams back and you're getting nick bosa back and you're getting stripling eventually
02:56and i think you're getting people who you have under team control younger players who are going to help
03:02you in the future this is fascinating to me because like nationally this has already been a discussion
03:07point raheem mostard the other day was like the niners need to go get brian thomas jr and i'm like
03:12okay like fun it's a fun idea it's no more said that uh did i did i say we're gonna
03:18see mostard
03:19okay yeah mostard yeah okay um anyway thank you i'm sorry if i messed that up but yeah mostard said
03:24that
03:24so um it's a fun idea you know what i mean when the guy comes over after the meal and
03:32has the little
03:33mini menu and they're like i know you're full i know you just ate a steak do you want a
03:37brownie
03:38sundae take a look at this dessert menu and you're looking at it going yeah i think i do want
03:45that
03:46and man how do you feel when you get home this is kind of how i view the idea of
03:51week three trades
03:52when the people we're talking about replacing are not out for the year what do you do week 10
04:01if your wide receiver room mike evans dejan stripling debo samuel demarcus robinson christian
04:10kirk brian thomas jr jordan watkins jacob cowan i mean brandon what do we holy crap what do we do
04:19with
04:19all of this so it to me it's a fair question you asked lombardi yesterday uh the trade deadline
04:26is it just waiting for dudes to get healthy i think they're ready to be aggressive now i just
04:31don't know if any potential trade partners are ready to be aggressive it's october 1st right so
04:36once the calendar turns to october that was the month in which the 400 traded for christian
04:40mcafree but that was considered a very early trade on on the calendar and carolina was a mess back then
04:47so they obviously were in sell mode a little bit early uh you know there there are teams that are
04:51messes already i'm already looking at cleo mack and the chargers i mean that that's that's a mess
04:57and they've got another tough game coming up this week so we'll we'll see what happens with them but
05:02as this month uh you know moves on the obvious targets i think will start to to really materialize
05:10and at that point the the 49ers can can make a move but you've got to have two to tango
05:15for these
05:15trades so i would give it a couple more weeks at least before anything serious can happen oh i'm about
05:20to use the worst word in sports patience oh guns and roses i mean nobody has it i don't have
05:28nobody
05:28has it nobody has nobody wants to do that it's totally the right thing to do right now they're
05:34three and oh dude like you're not trying to save anything you're three and oh i personally believe
05:41in 48 hours they're gonna be four now we'll see what happens they gotta play the game ball can bounce
05:46whatever i think they're the better team i like looking at who is likely to play in this football
05:52game i think they're the better team and they'll probably win the football game that would be my
05:55guess we'll see how this goes um but if you're four and oh and you're kind of freaking out about
06:03like
06:03we need receivers pass rushers it's like well just you know what i mean like hold on a second
06:09because it's only week three and we actually don't know yet that the 49ers are injured for the stretch
06:18run trade deadline is about stretch run and if the 49ers are injured for the stretch run then i will
06:25hop into the foxhole with everybody and tell john lynch you have got to go be ultra aggressive because
06:31this is an opportunity season i think that's what the first three weeks mean to me i won't call
06:38anybody the super bowl favorite yet it doesn't matter but this is an opportunity season you are
06:42in the mix you are one of the better teams in the in the game this is clear and so
06:47i don't think we
06:47need to tell john lynch that they know this they know this and they will be aggressive if the time
06:53comes and the need is there and the right person is there but we're we're just not there yet because
07:00they might be awesomely healthy by week nine they might be loaded by week nine for all we know
07:07right and even if you go back to the christian mccaffrey trade in 2022 and i'm looking at the
07:13the game log here and it happened four days after you lose to atlanta the niners fall to three and
07:19three
07:19with a road loss at atlanta and in that game you had a rushing attack of jeff wilson seven for
07:2725
07:28debo samuel two for 11 tevin coleman four for three jimmy garoppolo three for 11 so basically that is
07:3750 yards on 16 carries against atlanta atlanta ran it down your throat you couldn't run it
07:43jimmy garoppolo had a pretty good game he threw two picks of course but you were unable to do
07:48what shanahan loves the most which is possess it run it keep it lead it win it and so you
07:55got out of
07:55that game and you were three and three and i think they looked at their roster and thought you know
07:59what we're probably just a really good running back away from having this team be something that is
08:05kind of special and i look at this year's team i don't think that you look at any weakness right
08:11now you're three you know you're the best team in football through three games would you like to
08:15have a better pass rush yeah would you like to have a healthier receiving core sure would you like to
08:21have a more interior defensive lineman yeah but it's week three and you're three you know so even in
08:27this time frame october 20th which we are still 18 days away from that that's three more games
08:33so if the niners are four and two at that point and they have a glaring weakness well then yeah
08:38maybe then you make a move i'm actually comfortable ish in the moment with the wide receiver position
08:45comfortable ish i think they have enough it'd be great if mike evans was feeling better um but if
08:52this weekend they go out there with mike evans debo samuel brandon cooks jordan watkins jacob cowing
08:59and malik turner i'm like okay okay you win the football game with that um the pass rush one is
09:06interesting to me keon white has been better than than we thought he would be there's no doubt
09:10um i can see a scenario where we get to the trade deadline and you would love for them to
09:16be a little
09:16bit more dynamic rushing the passer but what if in two weeks hell what if in seattle what if in
09:24nine
09:24days the 49ers can roll out nick bosa keon white romello height ossa odigizua grayson halton and
09:34michael williams what if they can roll that out next week that's not bad jayden duggar flashes in
09:41there sometimes out of the linebacker position you know what i mean like sure we'd love to have sam
09:47old back you'd love uh for cj west to get back but what if in a week that's the group
09:55it's like
09:56i i i hate to say it but i feel pretty comfortable with that group right now if healthy and
10:02yes you
10:03would have to assume that for everybody in every team and that's why i look back at the mcafree trade
10:08when they made the deal on october 20th where you looked at your running back room and they were healthy
10:14but they just weren't good enough and so you didn't have any help on the way and this team
10:19you're gonna have nick bosa on the way michael williams practice window open it looks like he
10:24likely will play next weekend and so you have some people who you believe in a couple of first round
10:30picks by the way who are on their way back to the team and if you you know if nick
10:35bosa has another
10:36setback or if michael williams just doesn't quite look right well then you get closer to november and you
10:42have more information and at that point maybe you make a move i'm glad you brought up michael williams
10:46again because i want to circle back to the point that i was trying to make earlier this hour i
10:50don't
10:50know if i did the greatest job with it but i just think i think the niners are so aware
10:55of the injury
10:55situation that there are moments this does not apply to all of them look certain guys broke bones and
11:01snapped things and they're on ir but i think the 49ers this year they have a plan that's what it
11:10feels
11:11like to me and each individual guy has a plan and sometimes when we go oh they're hurt it's
11:17actually the niners going you know what let's let's be a little overly cautious here let's listen to
11:23what david lombardi said when asked yesterday if michael williams who is eligible to return against
11:31seattle could he listen to the answer michael is absolutely possible i think that they were
11:37intentionally conservatively playing his return there there were some discussions about having
11:42him ready to go for this first four week window but then they said you know let's let's play it
11:47safe let's let's push this back a bit so they kept him on pup which means that week five is
11:51the first
11:52week that he's eligible to return then the question is do they want him returning on artificial turf
11:56because seattle is artificial turf maybe they don't mind maybe maybe that's not a factor but but it has
12:01been a factor i think in the past so if they want michael williams back on natural grass then i
12:07think
12:07week six would would make a lot of sense against the commanders but he's looking explosive to me
12:11seeing him back out there at practice and uh that's a huge one right that he might be the single
12:16most
12:17important variable on this defense when it comes to playing against the run they were the number six
12:22run defense last year over the first nine weeks when they had michael williams and then it completely
12:26tanked they were like number 27 in epa against the run after he got hurt so that that's a huge
12:32huge
12:32one especially considering all the other injuries so that's kind of what i'm getting at you hear david
12:37there say like the niners were damn close to just having michael ready to go for australia they thought
12:42about it that tells me again i'm not saying he's not hurt i i just i feel the niners approaching
12:50this
12:50with a certain philosophy right now that is maybe more conservative than it has been in the past
12:56um and it's built with the big picture and the longer term in mind and i think where it stems
13:03from
13:03actually is a little bit of arrogance i think the niners knew before the season that they were going to
13:09be good really good well good good early especially and you can play the schedule sam game in whatever
13:15direction you want and so you look at it and you think okay rams in australia it's in australia
13:20we like our chances no matter what it's a three point three and a half point spread okay uh miami
13:26is patently bad and arizona is a team that isn't quite here yet arrival wise so can we go two
13:32and one
13:33and slow play michael williams okay not that you're thinking about banking wins but i think you're right
13:40about their approach where you know it's not um sprint it's a marathon and so you want guys to be
13:45good healthy and vibrant in december and january at the same time you can't trick off a lot of games
13:52to where you're chasing it but i think being three and oh gives you a little bit of a luxury
13:56to where
13:57you can kind of slow play guys how many times we heard kosh shanahan since camp say we want to
14:02be
14:02smart about this about 80 times exactly yep