00:00If you're a losing football team, keep all the quarterbacks you want.
00:04Keep all the QBs you want.
00:06Have seven for all I care. I don't care.
00:09I mean, you can only play one at a time.
00:11You want to have eight, ten, whatever. I don't give a damn.
00:14If you're a three-in-one football team, nice thing to say right now
00:17because they don't have to press the button.
00:19They got three weeks, well, two more weeks after this,
00:21but they got three weeks to activate Dylan Gabriel to open up that window.
00:26Yeah, in a perfect world, you could keep all four.
00:29I don't like that idea.
00:31If you're a winning football team, like you went on Sunday, you're four-in-one.
00:35We can go through the charade of all the, well, you know, the bottom might drop out.
00:40Okay, you're four-in-one. You're trying to win football,
00:42and they're trying to win football games now.
00:44But you're four-in-one, then you come back against Baltimore.
00:47I disagree with Mary Kay, and I explained why before Mary Kay,
00:50I think that this game is much bigger because I'm talking about making the playoffs.
00:53I'm not talking about winning the division right now.
00:55I'll crawl before I walk.
00:58And I think the Ravens are a measuring stick.
01:00I think the Jets are a team that you should beat, that Browns fans expect to beat.
01:05I think it's more of a test.
01:08You go out there, you're four-in-one, then you get ready for the Ravens,
01:11say you're four-in-two, you're still in playoff mode.
01:13And so we're going to bring in Dylan Gabriel and keep four quarterbacks?
01:16I need that extra lineman.
01:18I've had injuries on my offensive line.
01:20I need that extra defensive lineman.
01:21I mean, good God, how many – right now, we have Aiden Huntington.
01:28We have Malik Collins.
01:31And I'm going to have to look at the P squad to see who gets activated here.
01:34Like, you understand what I'm saying?
01:35I'm not keeping four quarterbacks when I need defensive linemen.
01:38And think about where we are in the calendar.
01:39When we're trying to win games to get to the playoffs.
01:41If we're trying to make the playoffs and play for the playoffs down the stretch,
01:44that means December games of significance.
01:47And now with the schedule the way it is, we are well into January with games of significance.
01:52And we're only in October, second week of October.
01:56Beautiful weather, by the way.
01:57And we're already talking about this kind of depth issue.
02:01And we were not that deep coming into the season.
02:03I'm not trying to, like, scare everybody.
02:05I'm just saying.
02:06It's the reality of the NFL.
02:07Keeping four quarterbacks to me, it's just, it's a one-and-three team type of thing.
02:12Not three-and-one.
02:13And if you come back and you're four-and-two by the time you make a decision about,
02:17even, oh, God, if you were five-and-one, there ain't no way in hell.
02:19I need all those players I can get.
02:21We're trying to win, damn it.
02:22But if you're four-and-two after that Ravens game,
02:25because you're not going to be favored at home, we know that.
02:27You're four-and-two, it's like, no, I'm not, I'm sorry.
02:30Somebody's going to have to go.
02:31I need the players on the 53 now.
02:33And maybe we try to sneak tailing green.
02:35Maybe we can flip Dylan Gabriel for an asset.
02:39I'm not going to get to the stupid Shador stuff.
02:41You guys ain't going to put me on tape.
02:43Ain't going to happen today.
02:45Maybe a 9-20.
02:46You're not going to put me on tape for it.
02:47I'm not keeping four quarterbacks.
02:49Do you agree with me on that?
02:50I've not been as obsessed with this conversation.
02:54Obviously, that when they drafted.
02:55I'm not obsessed, but I am concerned.
02:57Well, the reason I bring it up is the one that you really focus on is tailing green,
03:01because what are the odds tailing green is ever a quarterback, a starting quarterback in the NFL?
03:08I'd say, dude, I would put it less than, I think it's less than 4%.
03:13Okay.
03:14Do you think, do you think I'm off on that?
03:16I was going to be nice and maybe say 10, but okay.
03:19It's just where he's, where he's drafted a B, you know,
03:24Yeah, I understand.
03:24They talked about him in a way.
03:26The best play he had was a run in the preseason.
03:28He was only looking to run in the preseason.
03:31The first chance he got.
03:33Now, I know that it's been tantalizing to think about what can we do in the red zone.
03:37Guess what?
03:37We're one of the better teams so far this year in the NFL, I believe.
03:40What's that?
03:40Scoring touchdowns.
03:41Red zone teams.
03:42We are paying off our red zone appearances with touchdowns.
03:45Well, I didn't know that.
03:46So, because of that, I'll have the stats, you know, before the 9 o'clock segment.
03:50I like that.
03:50Before flamethrower Lloyd comes on the air and torches the Jim Tomey statue.
03:55But if you're scoring touchdowns, doesn't it kind of lessen the need to see this incredible freak athlete in the
04:05red zone in Taylor Green?
04:06Well, and I understand why, like, having the chance to talk to him a little bit.
04:10Good kid, smart kid.
04:12There's definitely upside there.
04:14And Todd Munkin's an offensive guy.
04:16Yeah, you want, but what you need to do are two different things.
04:18Again, man, if we were 0-4 or something like that, yeah, keep all you want.
04:21But that's because you would be losers.
04:24You're not.
04:25So, I'm not going to keep four quarterbacks because I need that depth maybe on the offensive line.
04:29I know I need that depth on the defensive line.
04:31And by that time, who knows where we're going to be.
04:33Might need some depth at wide receiver.
04:36Might need it at tight end.
04:37You can only play 46 of them or dress 46 of them.
04:42I'm sorry.
04:42I need all hands on deck to try to win football games.
04:452-1-6-4-7-4-0-92.
04:49So, I don't mean to attack Nick.
04:51I'm going to attack Nick.
04:53He said, were they wondering whether or not he could take a victory lap yesterday?
04:58Because you brought this to my attention.
05:01And then Keith had texted about victory laps and Nick wondering whether or not he could take victory laps.
05:06Because they're off to a 3-1 start.
05:07Nick predicted 8-9 as a record, right?
05:12But if you predict 8-9, and then in the second sentence you say you think they're going to lose
05:17all the games they start with Deshaun Watson.
05:20Don't think you're allowed to take that victory lap.
05:22As a fan, hey, I'm happy to win all the games we can.
05:25I'll take them any way we can get them.
05:26But if you're saying they were going to be 8-9, but they were going to win all those games
05:30with another quarterback.
05:31And I ain't going to say his name.
05:32You ain't putting me on tape.
05:34Then you don't get to celebrate that as a radio show host.
05:37Well, here's where I'll defend him.
05:38I'll defend him in saying that he prioritized the talent.
05:42That was a big part of why he thought.
05:43He thought the young talent was going to hit the ground running.
05:45Yeah, but he thought the quarterback was going to suck so bad that he was going to have to be
05:49replaced.
05:49They were going to have to put somebody else in.
05:51He hasn't been the greatest quarterback that's ever played the game, but he certainly played good complementary football.
05:56Average to above average.
05:57There you go.
05:57I think that's where he's been so far.
05:58And in fourth quarters, he's been elite.
06:01We were able to rattle off like 10 teams we'd rather have him over.
06:04Yeah, right now.
06:05Right now, this year, and he's been an elite fourth quarter player.
06:08All the numbers support that.
06:09That's not just an eye test.
06:10That's numbers and eye tests.
06:12Three come from behind wins.
06:14Has not been rattled by the pressure.
06:16Has not been rattled by some stray boos at home.
06:19He's actually turned the boos that there have been into cheers and a chance.
06:23Cheers, yeah.
06:23So, obviously, Deshaun Watson.
06:25The boos turned into yays.
06:27I don't care what some of the national people have said.
06:29Like, he has been a major factor in them being 3-1 so far this year, and I think he's
06:35gotten better.
06:36So, given all of that, I do think, you know, these NFL seasons.
06:39I'm not trying to be nitpicky with Nick, but it's like, hey, man, you would do the same with me.
06:43If I'm sitting there going, yeah, I picked him to go.
06:45And you go, uh, I know what you said about Deshaun Watson.
06:48And you guys would play it into oblivion.
06:50Yeah.
06:50I know how you guys operate.
06:53It's how it's supposed to operate.
06:55Like, if you're going to say that after predicting, then you've got to stick to that after predicting.
07:00Yeah, because they could very easily, with a lot of other quarterbacks, be 0-4.
07:04I mean, that is 100% a fact.
07:06Yes!
07:07And think about how we're talking about the Browns team at 0-4 right now.
07:10We're just, like you said yesterday, talking college quarterbacks again.
07:13That graphic is not just going to be a Friday graphic.
07:15Am I sure that any other quarterback on this roster could have them at 3-1?
07:20I mean, I'd make the case it'd be the opposite.
07:221-3 or 0-4.
07:25Okay.
07:26So then we have to give Deshaun Watson his credit now, don't we?
07:29Yeah, and we have it.
07:29So then you can't make that argument.
07:31If you're him.
07:32We can't be done.
07:34You would come after me.
07:35You try to give him a little leeway.
07:35I understand you want to give him a little leeway.
07:37You want to be nice.
07:38I'm not trying, again, I'm not trying to kill him over everything.
07:40Because he did think the receivers were going to be good.
07:42They've been better than good.
07:43And if I were sitting there crowing about 8-9, but I said that Deshaun Watson would lose the games
07:47that he'd play and he'd be replaced early, what would you be saying to me?
07:50What would you and Owen be saying to me?
07:52What would you, Owen, and the callers be saying to me?
07:55We've got to stick to our guns on this.
07:56Sorry.
07:57But you can celebrate winning games.
07:59Everybody should celebrate winning games.
08:01That's fun.
08:02Mm-mm-mm.
08:04We don't get to do predictions.
08:05You ain't Sylvia Brown on that one.
08:07Jason Lloyd.
08:08He joins us at 9 a.m.
08:09Well, he had some things to say.
08:12He said the loud part even louder when it comes to Jim Tomey.
08:16And does he believe that this Guardians team is going to win the series?
08:20Not that they're back in.
08:21They were back in.
08:22Are they now going to win the series?
08:24Ken Carman, Anthony Lyman, Jason Lloyd, The Athletic.
08:26Five minutes away on The Fan.
