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00:00I definitely watched, and then I wanted it because I watched the first game.
00:04I was a little more invested, so I watched not the whole thing,
00:07but a bunch of the second game.
00:10So I got back from the high school games at around 9.
00:15I watched the game move quick, thank goodness.
00:19About the fourth, mid-fourth on game one, I didn't pay attention to any game two.
00:24I'll admit.
00:25Didn't pay attention to any of it.
00:28Saturday is a big day.
00:29I watched some college football, and then, honestly, for whatever reason,
00:33I was like, I stayed up all day the day before.
00:36It was a long, long, long, long, long day, and I decided, I was like,
00:39you know what, just going to bed.
00:40It was like 9.47.
00:42I was like, done.
00:42John said the rating's been better than they expected.
00:45So far, so good for them.
00:47But Milwaukee's up.
00:48I hope Milwaukee wins.
00:49I have an interest there.
00:51Will you get into it tonight?
00:53We got Cavs on local TV tonight.
00:55I don't know how much I'm going to get into it tonight.
00:56Oh, it's like, no, I'm done.
00:58I, Friday night, I was in a bar all night in North Carolina.
01:01I watched Duke, Virginia, and Army Tulsa over watching the World Series.
01:06I'm not, I'm not doing it.
01:08Did they have it on the TV?
01:09Yes.
01:10Okay.
01:10They had it on the TV.
01:12It was on, there was like six TVs behind the bar, nice big long bar.
01:16Two of them were on World Series.
01:18One on each side of, you know, and I made sure to just focus on the college football games.
01:23Would you have watched it?
01:24I don't care about.
01:24Would you have watched it if like, say the Guardians didn't make the playoffs or didn't have heartbreak?
01:29Yep.
01:29Yeah.
01:30He, I see, he totally, he agrees with me on this.
01:33Like when you go to the playoffs and you lose, that sucks.
01:37Like I'd pay closer attention to it had it had been, like I paid attention to it because part of
01:41it was the job.
01:42Like we had to go out there right after the game ended.
01:44But the game two, I was like, man, I'm good.
01:48I got college football to watch when I got home.
01:50And then again, 947, I was like, yeah, I'm going to go up and lay down.
01:53We're about done here.
01:54Been a long, long weekend so far.
01:56And I thought it might even get even longer after they were down 14, nothing.
02:00And then things got a hell of a lot better for the Cleveland Browns.
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02:17End of tongue tying.
02:21I might have the glugs when I got, you know, yesterday evening.
02:25What's the matter with that, huh?
02:27A little celebrating.
02:28Yeah, what's the matter with that?
02:29A little celebrating.
02:29Got home, got a win, had a nice time at the awards ceremony with everybody.
02:34You know what?
02:35Go reward myself with a Jack Daniels or seven.
02:37What do you want from me?
02:39We've had the best October weather in the history of Northeast Ohio.
02:44Just every week, 70, 70, and then crisp at night.
02:47It's beautiful, great grass-growing weather, Kenny.
02:50Oh, the grass is back.
02:51You've grown grass in October?
02:52It's supposed to be growing grass in September.
02:54And I think we will, thanks to some of the conditions now, the overseeding.
02:58Oh, we are on a plan, finally.
03:01Green thumb tone here.
03:01After four bad, long years.
03:03We're back.
03:03That's crazy coming from this guy.
03:05Clouds were awesome.
03:07Loved clouds.
03:08Yeah, he did.
03:08Now look at him.
03:09Now he's all sun.
03:10Do you understand the glow, the drive back from Buffalo?
03:13I think we were past peak, you know, over there in Western New York.
03:17And then coming to Northeast Ohio, Ashtabula, Geneva.
03:22I mean, you guys were just clicking on all cylinders.
03:25Jefferson.
03:26Listen, you guys can say what you want.
03:28I'm sure I'm going to start some fight here.
03:30And I don't want to.
03:32If we're talking about fall foliage, I'm sorry.
03:35The west side has nothing on the east side.
03:38I said what I said, and I meant what I said.
03:40I don't know, man.
03:41Rocky River, the valley.
03:43No, it's not.
03:43No, it's not the east side.
03:44Go over that bridge in Lakewood.
03:46The east side has this abundance.
03:48How far east do you go?
03:49How far west are you willing to go?
03:51Are you willing to go to Lorain County?
03:52And then down through, like, Wayne and Medina and all that stuff, maybe?
03:56If you go, I'll take you up to Geneva.
03:59No offense to the listeners we have in Conneaut.
04:01That's just, it's far, far up there.
04:05But if you go to Geneva and work your way down.
04:07Like I was telling my dad, we were in Burton on Saturday.
04:10We stopped at JC's, unpaid testimony.
04:13Great place.
04:13Unpaid testimony.
04:14I told him, I go, they got this stadium.
04:16It's beautiful.
04:17They just built it, like, a couple years ago.
04:19And it's, like, built on the side of the hill, and you look out,
04:22and there's a whole valley there, and all the leaves.
04:26Nothing touches Lake and Geauga County in the fall, guys.
04:29I'm sorry.
04:30Like, there are good people on both sides of the city.
04:34But I'm telling you right now, fall foliage, you can't beat the east side.
04:39All right, 216-474-0092.
04:42I thought Watson was good.
04:43You thought Watson was good, right?
04:44Okay.
04:46The conversation, the one caller we had, Jeff, like, I just, I get nervous, and I don't like
04:53the conversation about returning to Houston form.
04:56I think it puts an unfair set of circumstances there.
05:00And the reason I mean it is because, like, I do.
05:02I still wonder whether or not the other shoe is going to drop at some point here, and he
05:06just falls apart.
05:08I'm not, as much as I like what he's done, and I got very defensive of his play last week,
05:13Tone.
05:14Like, you and I agreed, and I was getting into it with callers and people on social media
05:17and all that stuff.
05:18Look, I've been very defensive of his play here this season.
05:22I still don't fully trust him yet.
05:26And I don't know when I am.
05:27I don't know.
05:29Like, I went from thinking he was never, ever going to play for this football team again
05:35to, like, all right, he's going to get a chance to play for this team.
05:39And then getting with the reality that he was going to start the season and how I was nervous
05:44for Todd Munkin and everybody involved, including Browns fans, because nobody wanted to see him.
05:49Nobody.
05:50And I think he's done a fine job as quarterback so far.
05:53But I have to always say, so far.
05:56Sure.
05:57Yeah, I'm with you there.
05:58I feel even more, I feel more confident today than I did, say, four weeks ago.
06:04But when do I say I'm confident in him and that's it?
06:07Because I just think it's unfair.
06:09It is really an unfair argument for me to sit there and go, well, I don't trust him.
06:12Well, when are you going to trust him, Ken?
06:13Well, I don't know.
06:14Okay, good.
06:14Well, the other part of this is that I've seen people say, well, he's got to play complete
06:18games.
06:18I'm like, look around the league.
06:19Who's playing the complete games?
06:21Did you see Cincinnati's first half?
06:22It was terrible.
06:23And Deshaun's not Joe Burrow.
06:25I don't know that the Browns are capable of, you know, five straight touchdown drives.
06:29Yeah.
06:29But there aren't, you look around the league, show me the guys.
06:33I mean, Brock Purdy threw two interceptions.
06:35I thought Cincinnati was going to let him get blown out yesterday.
06:37Brock Purdy threw those picks.
06:38You just took, yep, you just said that.
06:40Like, there are guys who, it's just, it's not the league.
06:43It's not the league it was when you wanted to trade for Deshaun Watson.
06:47It wasn't the league it was when they drafted Deshaun Watson in Houston.
06:51It's, it's different.
06:53And I don't know.
06:54I'm telling you, Tone, I don't know when that's going to change.
06:57And so, like, when we have these conversations, and I, I've soft pedaled it like crazy, because
07:03especially on a Monday after you win, you get excited.
07:06Like, I want to talk playoffs.
07:08I don't necessarily want to get into his future, but it's one of those things you keep in the
07:11back of your mind going, hey guys, if the quarterback play at the college level is going to continue
07:16to, to disappoint us, if the quarterback play at the pro level is going to continue to be
07:22scattershot, I guess we do have to talk about a future here.
07:27I don't know what that future looks like.
07:30I don't.
07:30I don't know where you begin.
07:32I don't know where it finishes.
07:33Maybe they'll just be happy to go their separate ways at the end of the year.
07:36But if the quarterback market shapes up the way the quarterback market looks like it,
07:40I'm sorry.
07:41Like, there's, I'm not sorry.
07:42There has to be, there has to be a conversation because you're seeing more and more of these
07:46guys who are just, I mean, I'm sorry, raw, raw, talented quarterbacks.
07:51And they did no development.
07:53They end up in the NFL and they start off terribly.
07:57And I don't know if I'm ready at five and two.
08:00Am I really ready to change the diapers on a rookie quarterback next year when I'm thinking
08:04playoffs with everybody?
08:06And is that unfair to that rookie quarterback?
08:09I mean, think big picture here, guys.
08:11Like, he's playing well.
08:13And so, I know that a lot of people couldn't wait for him to go, myself included.
08:17I wanted this to be done for a long time.
08:20He was just a dark cloud that hung over this franchise.
08:24And I still keep saying so far at the end of every sentence I say when he plays well.
08:31But, he's playing well.
08:33And we might find ourselves in a position where, hey, you're 9-5, 10-5, 11-6, whatever it might
08:40be.
08:41By the end of the year, you get to the playoffs and it's like, what other choice do you have?
08:45Unless the Rams continue to suck up the room and you get some sort of a high pick.
08:49But then again, how far down are you going when it comes to the quarterbacks?
08:53I'm not trying to turn it into a big-time conversation there.
08:56I'm excited about this win.
08:57But, it is in the back of everybody's head, his future every time they win and he plays
09:01reasonable.
09:02Yes.
09:02Well, the Rams are 3-4.
09:04So, it's not like they've thrown away their season.
09:06No.
09:07They're absolutely three or four weeks away from that being a 20th pick overall or whatever.
09:14Yeah.
09:14But, it's not far away where it's, you're going to end up with two late first round picks.
09:22Yes.
09:23I don't know if you can abandon ship right now.
09:26That's what I'm saying.
09:27It's surprising, man.
09:28It's really, really surprising.
09:29We're in a position that not a lot of people thought we were.
09:31And, when I said before to the person, 3% of people were saying how good this team was
09:35going to be and 1% of them actually believed it.
09:38When you're 5-2, you're not 5-10.
09:405-10, you can go.
09:42Okay.
09:42Uh-huh.
09:425-2, you got to kind of go.
09:445-2, we're doing 7 in heaven.
09:45And, honestly, at 5-2, I was asked a question by a guy from Woodridge when I was leaving
09:49the stadium on Saturday.
09:50He goes, are you going to get involved in any of these trades?
09:53I go, you got to beat Tennessee first.
09:55But, at 5-2, now all of a sudden you're starting to think of, okay, maybe we can really.
09:59Hey, Kenny, do we really want to open up the book on the 35-year-old pass rusher that's
10:03got a big name and going to the Hall of Fame?
10:06Because, if the Rams aren't going to be the Rams, and some of these other teams aren't
10:09going to be them, what are we waiting around for?
10:14At 5-2, I'm not putting any cart before any horse.
10:17You're 5-2.
10:18That's a legitimate start.
10:20Go to the phones here.
10:21I'm sorry to be so stern.
10:23Tyreek in Cleveland, you're next up in the fan.
10:25Hello.
10:26How you doing, sir?
10:27Doing well, Tyreek.
10:28You go right on ahead, friend.
10:31Hey, boss.
10:31I look to y'all show all the time.
10:33I'm a big fan, man.
10:34But, like, man, listen, man.
10:36Like, Deshaun Watson is 5-2, man.
10:38And it's because of him.
10:39He's a top-10 quarterback, boss.
10:41I know y'all want to hear it, but he's a top-10 quarterback.
10:44He's 5-2.
10:45We winning because of him.
10:46The defense did not show up yesterday.
10:48They didn't.
10:49The offense did.
10:50We had to carry them.
10:51Wait, they didn't have a goal line stand?
10:52Defense didn't have a goal line stand?
10:54Oh, for sure.
10:55And they've got a pick.
10:56But when it mattered most, Deshaun Watson did it.
10:59You still don't believe, boss?
11:01How you don't believe he got 5-4 quarter drives?
11:04Well, that's fine.
11:04I mean, hey, I'm glad you listened, Tyreek, but I'm not going to hate you personally for
11:08disagreeing with me.
11:09This would have been a short career for me now, wouldn't it have been?
11:11I mean, that's fine.
11:12No, I just, I'm just not fully, to say top 10, I don't know.
11:18Am I really going to take the time during this show today to go look and find 10 guys
11:22I don't like better, or I like better than him?
11:24No.
11:25Can I do it tomorrow or Wednesday?
11:26Maybe.
11:26Maybe I'll do that.
11:27Because I tell you right now that we got nothing to bitch about because the team keeps doing
11:30well.
11:31Can I ask you one question?
11:33Be honest.
11:33Yeah.
11:39On my kids, on my kids, and you can call people in Streetsboro, I said, I go, we got
11:44plenty of time.
11:44He's going to go down.
11:45We'll be fine.
11:45I swear to God on my children, Tyreek.
11:48I believe you.
11:49That is fair.
11:49I believe you.
11:50You are right.
11:51You are right.
11:52I did have that faith.
11:53That is true.
11:54Thank you very much for the call.
11:55No, because I just think, I just keep wondering, like, when, when is he going to be figured
12:00out?
12:00And I didn't mean to run Tyreek off there.
12:02We do, we're, we're getting close.
12:03I do want to get one more person to be before Lyman likes.
12:06Like, I will say I'm in this weird spot where, yeah, I, I just had to kind of go back
12:10on
12:10myself here where I keep saying so far at the end of every sentence about how well he's
12:14doing overall.
12:15I felt very confident.
12:16Was it 52 or 58?
12:18And I said at the mark, I go, I, I, we're fine.
12:21We got all the timeouts.
12:23I said, we'll be fine.
12:24I go, get the ball back.
12:26All we got to do is get down there for Andre Schmidt.
12:28We don't need to score a touchdown or anything.
12:29We'll be fine.
12:30We're winning this football game.
12:30And had full faith in it.
12:32And the confidence wasn't just about Deshaun.
12:35Like, I, I thought that those young pass catchers could also help.
12:39And man, did Harold Fanon make it a lot easier.
12:42Nick and Talmadge, you're next up on the fan.
12:44Hello, Nick.
12:45Guys, good morning.
12:46I love Mondays better when it's a victory Monday than a rehash how five ways we lost on
12:52Monday.
12:52That's for sure.
12:53It's awesome.
12:53Um, Hey, I just wanted to share something and, and I'm, this is me admitting fault,
12:58but it's been a crazy rollercoaster for me and how I feel about Deshaun.
13:02It's been an evolution because I'm a diehard, like most listeners, like you guys are.
13:07And, um, you know, when people forget when we signed him, it was a miracle.
13:12We thought there's no way he was saying he didn't want to come playing in cold weather.
13:15And we signed him and people were ecstatic.
13:18Then of course, we followed him from Houston, which I'm still pissed that Houston got no
13:23penalty and all that, but we, but we did.
13:26We lost him for a year.
13:27But then, um, besides that, he hasn't gotten any trouble.
13:31And all we did was work hard.
13:32He played.
13:33I thought we had the best quarterback available.
13:35I applauded, uh, ownership for getting him.
13:38Uh, and then he got injured and then he played a little bit and got injured again.
13:42And, and I was just, I started to look, look, look down on him because of his injury, which
13:47is no fault of his own.
13:48I mean, he's a, he wants to, those guys, they don't think about how much they're making when
13:53they're on the field.
13:54They just want to win.
13:55And I don't think he's an exception.
13:57And, and now that he's doing well, I'm, I'm actually really happy for him.
14:02Uh, do I think, I mean, as a lifelong Browns fan, I'm always waiting for the shoe to drop,
14:08but, uh, but I'm really happy for him.
14:10I think he's doing a great job.
14:13Uh, and again, you hear all the pundits say, we are young.
14:16We have a lot.
14:17We are, we just have a lot to learn still.
14:19And that we're, we're on the uptick.
14:21Uh, it's a really good sign that we're winning this young.
14:23And the fact is Deshaun, you see him getting more confidence every day.
14:28I'm not saying he'll go back to his elite status, but he's feeling the confidence, which
14:33is everything in an athlete.
14:34And he's starting to feel that every week.
14:36He's getting player support.
14:38He's getting crowd support.
14:39And, uh, I just want to say that I applaud him.
14:42Don't know where they're going to go.
14:43I was wrong, but I'm happy to be rooting for him again.
14:45So, Nick, thank you very much for the call.
14:48My friend coming up in five minutes, Lima likes, what do you got?
14:51Uh, I tell you, I was just looking by the way, he's, he's still in the twenties and a
14:54lot of the, uh, the, the, the metrics, which feels like he's been better than that.
14:58We got a few days to break that down.
14:59What do you got?
15:00But, uh, over the weekend, Hey, there were some really good things developing there for
15:05the Browns yesterday.
15:06And I saw one of them from the local dude that will have you guys feeling really, really good
15:11about what they've got growing.
15:14Lima likes and five on the fan.