00:00Europe is paying for this war. Europe is consistent in supporting Ukraine and we will continue to do so irrespective
00:07of what anybody else does.
00:09And by the way, on assets, as Johan said, this is a complicated issue. We are working on it.
00:15But there is also some rumors that some people are expecting these assets to be released back to Russia.
00:22In this room, everyone is talking only about one thing, the diesel deal. What is Europe going to do about
00:29it?
00:30And what kind of impact the decision that the Trump administration has taken over the weekend, before the weekend, what
00:37does that really mean for Europe?
00:40And on top of that, we had President Zelensky here coming online and we asked him, did you know about
00:47the deal or did you know about the ceasefire?
00:50You're in Florida. I mean, your team is in Florida. You are negotiating. And he said, I had no idea.
00:55I learned from the media.
00:57What is going on? How should we read this? And what should we be doing if we are united, strong
01:03and financing Ukraine in this war?
01:06We should do our thing and we should keep our course. This is what I would reply.
01:13Should we talk to President Trump?
01:15Yes, of course. We're talking to him. The leaders are talking to him. This is normal.
01:19But I would say this is not the time to lower the sanction regime, but to strengthen this. And this
01:27is what the European Union did yesterday in addressing another 1,600 people and companies and so on and entities.
01:37So this is what we are doing. We are keeping our course. And it's it's still the question and it's
01:43we were asking the Americans still to to bring the Granville into into action.
01:48This is what is needed right now. So we know. And this is what what what in the first question
01:56round, what what we touched Europe is united Europe knows where we stand.
02:01We stand with Ukraine. We stand with Ukraine. We stand with freedom and we do our thing. So this is
02:07the answer I would give.
02:09Prime Minister, what do we do about this decision?
02:12A Polish journalist asked President Trump this question in Washington and President Trump said truthfully that he helped to get
02:23our president elected.
02:26And so I'm counting on our MAGA president to use the friendship that he has with President Trump to do
02:33two things.
02:34Number one, to secure a permanent U.S. base in Poland. And number two, to explain to him that Putin
02:41is the aggressor and Zalewski is the victim of aggression.
02:44And you end the war by persuading the aggressor to limit his level of ambition, not by asking the victim
02:53to capitulate.
02:55Absolutely. But let us also say that the prime minister, the president's office is saying that they criticize this decision.
03:02So let's hope we can use that leverage as well. Thank you very much, Prime Minister.
03:06Well, this is very much about the future of Europe. I think it's extremely important to say that the way
03:12the war in Ukraine ends,
03:14will cast very long shadows into the future of European security, and we want to do it in a good
03:19way for Ukraine and us.
03:21And that's an imperative for us. So it's really the number one issue.
03:24And for our allies on the other side of the Atlantic, it's important to say that this is much more
03:29than an issue of Ukraine.
03:31It's Ukraine, but it's also Europe and the future of Europe. And we are, after all, the closest economically in
03:38values and order to the U.S.
03:40So I think that message is very important. But our main role, as Ed very correctly said, is not to
03:45analyze what others do, but to say what we do.
03:47And I feel that what we've done over the last year, strengthening the building and strengthening the coalition of willing,
03:53the very correct moves by the EU yesterday, which are very much welcome from Norway's side.
03:59I mean, all of this is a very strong signal that Europe, together with Canada and on most good days,
04:05also with the U.S., we are sending a very clear message to Putin.
04:08And this is about showing strength, but also showing a strong determination to defend the international order as we like
04:17it, which is that those shall not attack other countries.
04:19And if you do, it will have consequences.
04:22Secretary, and you have a very special relationship with the United States as the U.K. How does that happen?
04:28Look, within the bounds of diplomacy, we should acknowledge it's been a very difficult few days.
04:32I want to express my admiration for President Zelensky's leadership.
04:36I think he has shown extraordinary leadership over the last four and a half years in the most difficult of
04:42circumstances.
04:43I was with him in Ukraine last week as we went to the site where 22 innocent civilians were killed,
04:49including five children.
04:50He feels every death personally.
04:52And I think we should praise his leadership today from this forum.
04:58What else is it for us to do, to reach out to our American allies?
05:02And obviously, I'm in touch with Secretary Rubio.
05:05But also, let us take seriously this issue of the energy ceasefire that President Trump has talked about.
05:12Not simply a refinery ceasefire, but a broad energy ceasefire.
05:17Because in the last week alone, we've seen 200 Russian attacks on Ukrainian energy infrastructure.
05:23So, let us say, let us take up this idea of the full energy ceasefire and let us seek, with
05:30President Trump, to hold Putin to this full energy ceasefire.
05:34Because that is what we need.
05:36And President Zelensky has shown his openness to this idea.
05:41I also think it goes back to this point I made about sanctions, which is redoubling our effort on sanctions.
05:48Europe has big decisions to make, including on Russian sovereign assets.
05:51I think we need to return to this issue.
05:55Britain is willing to do this alongside the European Union.
05:59Because, look, we know that every wrong message that is sent to President Putin is a message that sets back
06:07our security and sets back the Ukrainian cause.
06:10And we need to send the right messages.
06:12Thank you, Secretary, for actually bringing the question of frozen state assets.
06:17As I understand, at this point, for Belgium or France to agree to anything substantial, they expect all Europe to
06:24take, you know, the responsibility of what happens in a potential court fallout, whatever that is.
06:30Are we ready to take that responsibility?
06:33And how to best approach the question of Russian state frozen assets?
06:38Minister, you want to start?
06:39I just wanted to pick up the point admittedly made.
06:45Let us please use the very opportunity with the ceasefire for the energy sector.
06:54Also, still not overlooking what is relevant for the Black Sea and for the brain exports from Ukraine and from
07:02Russia to especially North Africa.
07:04This is still necessary.
07:06And let us please not forget this and urge Russia also to be ready to enlarge the ceasefire, not only
07:13for the energy sector, but also for the Black Sea.
07:15Because this is needed to really prevent a lot of people in Northern Africa from falling into hunger and so
07:22on.
07:23So Russian sovereign assets, this is a complicated issue.
07:26Everybody knows it.
07:28But it is clear for us, Russia has to pay for that war.
07:32They are the aggressors.
07:33They are the ones who are responsible for the damage which is happening to Ukraine.
07:39And in the end of the day, they will have to pay.
07:41And for the time being, we are finding ways to finance Ukraine.
07:47And I would say the European Union really showed that we are able to do it with the funding in
07:57this year.
07:57And I'm very optimistic that this will go on.
08:01Before I go back to the frozen state assets, just one follow-up question.
08:05You have just met in New York, Sergey Lavrov.
08:08Do you feel that Russia is ready for ceasefires?
08:12No, I didn't feel that.
08:15And you saw his assessment and his reaction after the conversation.
08:22But it shows to the people where Russia really is.
08:25Because a lot of people in Europe, and especially in Germany, were asking us and me,
08:29why don't you talk to the Russians?
08:31So, no, I had that conversation and you saw the result.
08:34It's a very dire result.
08:35And it shows that Russia right now is not ready for ceasefire.
08:39But still, this only can encourage us to stay with Ukraine and to strengthen the pressure on Russia
08:48and always be ready for conversations, and also especially for ceasefire negotiations.
08:53But until this doesn't happen, we are with Ukraine.
08:58We are with the president, as Ed said.
09:01The German government is backing the Ukrainian government.
09:05And the president, completely, he is the person to lead Ukraine.
09:11And we are with him.
09:13Thank you, Minister.
09:14You wanted to add something to this.
09:15We were both in New York, and we listened to Lavrov's speech at the Security Council,
09:21which was mostly a rant against Europe, which told me that they've just realized
09:27that actually they can't fix this just with the United States,
09:31that Europe is paying for this war, Europe is consistent in supporting Ukraine,
09:36and we will continue to do so irrespective of what anybody else does.
09:40And by the way, on assets, as Johan said, this is a complicated issue.
09:46We are working on it.
09:47But there is also some rumors that some people are expecting these assets to be released back to Russia.
09:54I don't think I'm speaking just for myself in saying over our dead bodies.
10:00Thank you for that.
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