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Can the Washington Commanders pull off a stunning upset against the undefeated San Francisco 49ers?

Joe Spadoni from San Francisco’s 95.7 The Game joins Grant & Danny to break down the Commanders vs. 49ers matchup, explain why Jayden Daniels could give Kyle Shanahan’s defense problems, and reveal why San Francisco’s special teams could be a major weakness.

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00:01Joe Spadoni, 95-7, the game mornings, joins us from out west where the game will be played.
00:07Joe, the Niners are 5-0.
00:08They're 7.5-point favorites.
00:11We're kind of doing the, yeah, but no one's giving Washington a shot in this league.
00:15That means maybe they have a shot thing.
00:17That's as good as we can put together as a Red Knight.
00:19Best we can do, buddy.
00:20How are you feeling about the game?
00:22Yeah, thank you for having me on, guys.
00:24We were talking about this, Chastain and I, this morning on our show.
00:27He is deathly afraid of this game because he's a big 49er fan.
00:30He's always afraid for some reason.
00:32But he seems to think this is going to come down to the health of Mike Evans if he plays
00:37or not.
00:37Now, I think he's going to play.
00:39I don't see it that way.
00:41Maybe I'm a little more arrogant because they're 5-0.
00:43Maybe I shouldn't be.
00:44But the way this team is right now, coming off that win over the Seahawks and the Broncos,
00:50I just don't see a Kyle Shanahan-led team, you know, with all the veterans,
00:56Christian McCaffrey, the way Purdy's playing, Kittle, Fred Warner.
01:00If this was some young upstart team, maybe.
01:03I think they'd take care of business.
01:05Now, I'm not going like plus 7.5, whatever, the spread or anything.
01:08Just to win, I think they handle business.
01:11But Jaden Daniels can present some problems for this 49ers defense.
01:16That's going to be the interesting part for me.
01:17Well, let's go to some of the injuries.
01:19San Francisco's banged up and, you know, water is wet and the Dan's and why.
01:22I mean, this is just kind of what you guys are dealing with.
01:25We've been dealing with it, too, a little bit over the last couple of seasons.
01:28But you guys live in this place.
01:30Key players in, out tonight.
01:32You already mentioned Mike Evans, but go into it.
01:34Yeah, it looks like Mike Evans from the insiders that he's probably going to suit up tonight.
01:39Now, he's been banged up and dealing with two fractured ribs.
01:42And he's still been a baller.
01:44It's been unbelievable.
01:46But it scared Niner fans a little bit on the injury report.
01:48Last week, sore Achilles popped up.
01:51And any time you hear the word Achilles, I think every sports fan, you know, their heart drops a little
01:56bit.
01:56So that's one to monitor.
01:58And outside of that, no Nick Bosa.
02:00They thought maybe he got activated and he can come back from that cap issue he's dealing.
02:04But no Nick Bosa tonight.
02:06That's probably going to be the biggest one.
02:08No Debo.
02:09And obviously, Dre Greenlaw.
02:10You guys all saw that.
02:11The suspension hurt around the world.
02:12So he appealed, did not get that, obviously, repealed or whatever it's called.
02:18But no Dre Greenlaw.
02:20So, yeah.
02:21Can I ask you about Dre Greenlaw?
02:23Would he be a guy that you use to spy an athletic quarterback like Daniels?
02:28I saw you guys have given up the number two scramble yards to the quarterback position in the league.
02:33I think some of that is Stafford, Brissett, Darnold.
02:36But it was Malik Willis, right?
02:38You have had a couple quarterbacks like Bo Nix who could get out of the pocket.
02:40Is that Greenlaw or would they use Warner to spy him?
02:44Is that a big loss in that regard?
02:45No, absolutely.
02:46Well, it's a big opportunity, I think, for Jaden Duggar, who's this rookie that they're really high on.
02:51He's been having a lot of different snaps this year.
02:53They mix him all over the place.
02:55He could be a linebacker.
02:56They put him on the line.
02:58They're really high.
02:59Raheem Morris, first-year defensive coordinator, super high on this guy.
03:02He's kind of like a jack-of-all-trades.
03:03So it's going to be him.
03:05And obviously, Warner's a part of that.
03:06But, yeah, no, potentially, this is the one area where I would be concerned
03:10if I'm a 49er fan is Jaden Daniels is an elite passer and runner.
03:15Malik Willis, God love him.
03:17Maybe he turns into something.
03:19He's given a really – he's given a poo-poo platter down there in Miami.
03:22But he's not the passer that Jaden Daniels is.
03:24Bo Nix, I mean, you guys watch the sport.
03:26If I have to watch that offense again, I swear to God,
03:29it's one of the worst things I've ever seen.
03:31But Jaden Daniels is definitely the best quarterback,
03:35the dual-threat quarterback that they have faced all season long.
03:38And in the past, that's Byrne Kyle Shanahan.
03:40So that would be the area, if you were going to exploit it,
03:44is the running ability of Jaden Daniels, for me anyways.
03:47Let's go to Brock Purdy.
03:48He's been good in his career.
03:50That's obvious.
03:51But this feels like kind of an escalation, even a step up.
03:54He's an MVP frontrunner at this point.
03:56He's been hyper-efficient with the football, productive.
03:58Just feels like he's dealing right now.
04:00What's gone right, or kind of what's been better?
04:02Well, it's a great point.
04:04I might be simplifying it here, but it might just be Mike Evans, man.
04:10I completely underrated him the heading of this year.
04:12And I know he's the first ballot Hall of Famer.
04:15He's been the model of consistency.
04:17But with that age, with the injuries he had last year,
04:20I was like, man, we're already getting older.
04:23You know, you had Ricky Pearsall.
04:24Obviously, he's out for the year.
04:26You had Dejan Shriveling people are excited about.
04:28He's going to be out for another four or five weeks, probably.
04:32So I just thought it was way too much to be putting on a 33-year-old wide receiver.
04:36He shut me up.
04:38I mean, these last two weeks, you can ask for tougher tasks against the Denver Broncos
04:42and the Seattle Seahawks defensively.
04:45And he's stepped up in a major, major way against both of those while compromised.
04:50It sounds like I'm simplifying it.
04:52Brock's been incredible.
04:53He's been using his feet in a way that I don't think he knew he could use.
04:58And Steve Young has been talking about this forever, talking about Brock Purdy,
05:02obviously the Hall of Fame quarterback, local ties here.
05:05But he wanted to see him use his legs a little bit more, be more decisive.
05:08It's an element that Jimmy Garoppolo, right, never had.
05:12And Brock is using it to his advantage this year.
05:14And we'll see tonight if he uses it with, obviously, a bunch of these wide receivers being out.
05:18So which defensive linemen are out?
05:21I know you guys are a little susceptible downhill in the running game,
05:24even though the numbers are pretty good.
05:25You don't have Nick Bosa.
05:27Are there more D-linemen just from the beginning, original plan, blueprint,
05:30that aren't available, or is it more just guys being banged up?
05:33What's the state of the union on defense in terms of health?
05:37Well, Grayson Halton, who had the huge play last week, the rookie out of Oklahoma,
05:42had the strip sack fumble when the Seahawks were running it for some god reason
05:46with a couple seconds left in the second quarter.
05:49He's expected to play.
05:50He was limited last week for a quad injury, but he's going to play Osa Adikizua,
05:56who they traded for, defensive tackle from the Cowboys.
05:59He's been really solid this year in the run game, getting to the quarterback as well.
06:04Keon White is a guy they also traded for last season that they're really high on.
06:09He was formerly of the Patriots.
06:11It's really a bunch of guys, if I'm going to be honest, boys,
06:14that the average fam probably are looking up and saying, huh, who?
06:18It's Nick Bosa and a bunch of other guys.
06:19But I got to give credit to Raheem Morris.
06:22I mean, he has been spectacular getting to the quarterback
06:25and getting whatever combinations, blitz packages, what have you.
06:29And it's worked out.
06:30It's really a no-name defense if you don't have Nick Bosa or Fred Warner,
06:36but they're getting it done somehow.
06:38Joe Spadoni with us here on G&D.
06:41So they don't blitz a ton, talking about your Niners,
06:44but I would blitz Washington always until they prove they can handle it.
06:48They could not prove it last week against the Giants, for example,
06:50and that's really been the struggle.
06:52Do you feel like they might go against type tonight,
06:54or is it just we're going to do what we do because we're the 5-0 team
06:57and these bums had to cross the country?
06:59Yeah, no, it seems like they're just pretty consistent,
07:01no matter who the offense is they're facing.
07:04Now, again, like I said earlier, I think Jaden Daniels presents problems
07:06that every other quarterback they face just doesn't with his arm and his legs.
07:10So maybe it's different with Raheem Morris,
07:13but I don't anticipate them changing a whole lot in that regard.
07:18But that being said, I mean, nothing shocks me anymore,
07:22especially with all these guys going down.
07:24And their ability, I think, last week, too,
07:27like that was the big bugaboo for a lot of Niner fans
07:29was them getting absolutely eviscerated in the divisional round
07:33against the Seahawks.
07:34We were all like, okay, well, something has to change.
07:36You look at their defensive front compared to ours,
07:39like how do we get better?
07:40And they didn't really do a lot.
07:41They had the trade for Osa, Digizua.
07:43They were relying on rookies.
07:44And then once Nick Bosa went down, we all went, uh-oh.
07:47But they really haven't skipped a beat, which is pretty incredible.
07:51And like you said, they don't blitz a whole hell of a lot.
07:53So they're just relying on their coverage.
07:55Now with Dre Greenlaw out,
07:57Jayden Duggar's a guy that usually rushes the passer sometimes.
07:59Maybe they don't do it as much there with him.
08:02So I'm curious to see what happens tonight at Levi's Stadium.
08:05Joe Spadoni on the Niners.
08:07He does what we do on the radio out in San Francisco.
08:12Danny talked about Purdy.
08:13I want to dig in on McCaffrey a little bit.
08:15But they're doing a way better job spelling him,
08:18kind of building an offense where it's not 25 carries and touches.
08:23Maybe this is a long game play.
08:25But are there still games where they'll use him and stomp the gas pedal?
08:29Or is the idea like a lot of Kalen Black as well?
08:32And give me an idea of how it's working so far.
08:34Because Black hasn't been nearly as effective, it doesn't look like.
08:37No, and the running game in general, like last week was, coincidentally,
08:42you know, the team that you struggled to run the ball against last year,
08:45the last two games you faced on the Seahawks, they actually ran it well.
08:48And I came away from that game saying, man,
08:49they probably could have ran it even more considering Brock wasn't looking all of his best.
08:53And it hasn't been there all year, the running game.
08:57And maybe that's a good thing for Christian McCaffrey's legs, like you guys were saying.
09:01But it's something where I think tonight, even against the commanders,
09:05they might start to feature more because of Mike Evans being banged up.
09:09They really need to get the run game going.
09:11Kyle Shanley was talking over the summer saying,
09:14if you want to be a Super Bowl champion or in the conversation,
09:17you have got to be a top 10 running squad.
09:19And I know Christian McCaffrey, you know, a lot of people still view him as a top five, top 10
09:24guy.
09:24I mean, he had bilateral Achilles tendonitis he's dealing with last year.
09:28This is a guy that has a lot of wear and tear.
09:30And Kalon Black, to your point, you thought he was going to be kind of a 1B to his 1A.
09:35It hasn't really worked out.
09:36They have to get their run game going at some point.
09:39Maybe it's tonight.
09:41So one of the areas where I've seen that they've struggled,
09:43when you look at some of the EPA metrics and things, is special teams.
09:48And I don't know if it's because they're, you know, five for eight on field goals,
09:51probably does some heavy lifting here, right?
09:53Where they're like 31st of 32 teams in that regard.
09:56But it does feel like maybe there's a hidden opportunity there.
10:00Because the offense is going to win that matchup.
10:02Maybe their defense wins the matchup with Washington.
10:05But special teams, they can be had.
10:07Does it feel that way when you watch them?
10:09You ask any Niner fan, you bring up special teams,
10:12they will, like, freak the hell out.
10:16I swear to you, I referenced my co-host, Joe Shasky.
10:19I mentioned Eddie Pinero, right?
10:21Who was, they nicknamed him Eddie Money last year,
10:23Eddie De Niro, because he only missed one field goal.
10:26Misses one last week.
10:27He's missed a couple already.
10:28He's already matched his season total of misses, you know.
10:31And people are already freaking out.
10:33And the next time he misses, if he misses tonight,
10:35his job is officially unnoticed as far as Niner fans are concerned.
10:38So that's one element.
10:39Jacob Cowan, who was returning punts last week,
10:41had a horrific muffed kick.
10:43Didn't even fair catch it.
10:44Didn't see the gunner running at him.
10:46It was atrocious.
10:48Outside of those guys, I think it's been solid.
10:52But, you know, no Debo Samuels been doing kick returns.
10:55They might be doing second-year man Jordan James,
10:57who was okay last week.
10:59That is an element, to your point, where if it is going to cost them,
11:03like if you've seen the Rams all seen with Sean McVay,
11:05that is an element that Kyle Shanahan has just not acknowledged
11:09as a priority compared to the offense and defense.
11:12And in the past, it has bitten them in the ass.
11:15Shout out Jake Moody.
11:17Where are Niners fans confidence-wise right now with the Rams stumbling
11:20and the Seahawks, who I still think are pretty good,
11:22but they're 3-3, chance to be 6-0 after tonight.
11:26Like, you would think people are feeling pretty good,
11:29but, you know, the injury bug always seems to bite,
11:30and then, you know, the second half swoon may or may not be there.
11:33How are Niners fans feeling?
11:35You know, we had a conversation out there this morning
11:37because it was, you know, kick your feet up Sunday
11:39because they were playing on Monday Night Football,
11:41so you had a chance to look around the league,
11:43and there's not really a lot of complete teams.
11:46And Niners fans, hey, when I bring up the one team
11:49that's gotten them twice, right, it's really them and the Chiefs.
11:52When you look at it, could we be seeing a third iteration
11:54of Shanahan versus Reed,
11:56and then Purdy trying to get some revenge over on Mahomes?
11:59It feels that way.
12:00Now it's early.
12:01I'm with you.
12:02I'm not throwing dirt on the Rams or the Seahawks just yet.
12:05Rams will get back Miles Garrett,
12:07although Kyron Williams kind of doing like the knee game
12:10after last night, Devontae, we'll see.
12:12They have just too much talent.
12:13And the Seahawks, I'm a little more skeptical on
12:17because of their offense and they can't run it.
12:19There's no more Clint Kubiak.
12:20There's no more Kenneth Walker,
12:21who's been incredible over at KC.
12:23But I really do feel, at least in the NFC,
12:27the Niners are a class ahead of everyone.
12:29I'm not buying Minnesota because they have a great defense,
12:32great defense.
12:33I don't trust Kyle Murray.
12:35Like, I'm sure you guys watch.
12:36You guys are in fantasy football.
12:37Their offense is really brutal.
12:40Outside of that, I mean, the Bears maybe,
12:42but defensively, I don't trust them either.
12:45The NFC least, everyone's calling it.
12:46Sorry, guys.
12:47I don't see any teams there that scare you.
12:50And obviously now with the Jalen Hurts thing
12:51being out for the year, the Eagles,
12:53they might be in sell mode.
12:54I don't see anyone, at least in the NFC,
12:58as complete as the 49ers.
12:59How do you guys see it?
13:01Do I sound arrogant here?
13:03No, I completely agree with you.
13:04Yeah, we agree.
13:04I think Seattle's flawed.
13:06I'm a huge Mike McDonald guy.
13:08I love him.
13:09But I'm also a huge believer in not hiring defensive-minded head coaches.
13:12And while he won the Super Bowl and broke through that,
13:15you're already seeing why.
13:16It's hard.
13:17I would take him in a second here.
13:19Don't get me wrong.
13:20But Clint Kubiak leaves, and they've taken a step back,
13:23and Darnold's struggling a bit.
13:24So I don't know.
13:25San Francisco's got it the way I want it,
13:27with the savant play caller who's there for a long time.
13:30I'm assuming you guys, I don't know.
13:34Do they?
13:34Does the fan base realize that they're the envy of the sport in that regard,
13:37or do they get mad at Kyle because they haven't won a Super Bowl yet?
13:40The latter is probably the loud minority.
13:44Probably like 5% or 10% of our callers will still call him and say,
13:47well, he didn't win the big one.
13:48Oh, Sean McVay has won one.
13:50Mike McDonald, two in your own division.
13:53And I get it.
13:54If you're a fan of the 49ers who grew up watching Walsh and Seifert,
13:59and guys, they're so insane.
14:02We had callers before the season started in a preseason game against the Chargers,
14:06mind you, calling in saying they'd still take Harbaugh over Shanahan,
14:10and I almost lost my mind.
14:11I bring it up now.
14:14I was like, hey, any of you callers still feel that way?
14:16Chargers 0-6.
14:17But, like, it's insane to me to hate Kyle Shanahan gets sometimes low.
14:21Joe, he was despised here.
14:22Loathed.
14:23He was, and I was on that beat for four years,
14:26and so I had kind of a window into him being brilliant and that whole staff
14:30and knowing that McVay was special and some of those other guys.
14:33I didn't think LaFleur and McDaniel would become what they did as quickly as they did,
14:37to be fair.
14:38But that said, I mean, if you go back and pull the clips, he was, you know,
14:42just a Nepo baby, and if his last name wasn't Shanahan, he wouldn't be in the league.
14:47I mean, he was hated here.
14:49And to an extent, by the way, around the league when he left here,
14:53Shanahan was, Mike, was making calls trying to help get him a job,
14:56like offering to help out, basically.
14:59I mean, he left here with the reverse car wash where his name was Mud.
15:03He had to go to Cleveland and work with Johnny frickin' Manziel.
15:06So, it wasn't just fans.
15:09No, it's a great point, too.
15:11And, you know, we were, before you came on last week, Grant,
15:14we were talking to LeVar Arrington, who was telling us, like,
15:17because he was doing local radio at the time over in D.C.
15:20And he was telling us just how hated Mike was.
15:22And maybe it wasn't as much Kyle, but now you're telling me maybe it was Kyle, too.
15:26The whole Shanahan family.
15:28And I get it, because Robert Griffin was, like, the dude, right?
15:31But before all the, you know, we got Jane Daniels, it was Robert Griffin,
15:34and I was watching it in real time.
15:36And then the whole Kirk Cousins thing in the same draft,
15:39their infatuation with quarterbacks, I will say this,
15:42it's definitely been something we've monitored because of Kyle's love affair
15:47with, you know, Tom Brady once upon a time.
15:50A lot of Niner fans wanted Tom Brady.
15:52He came available, stuck with Jimmy Garoppolo.
15:55You know, the Matthew Stafford thing, Sean McVay made the big swing,
15:59traded for him.
15:59Aaron Rodgers was the guy he flirted with.
16:01And that was a whole thing with him and LaFleur.
16:04So it really finally does feel like, I'll give Shanahan credit here,
16:08he's got his guy.
16:09He's talked about it.
16:10He doesn't rip into him on the sidelines.
16:12Like, it really does seem him and Purdy are on the same wavelength,
16:16same wavelength, excuse me.
16:18And that might be the difference between winning and losing the Super Bowl,
16:21that he finally trusts his quarterback.
16:23Joe, call your shot for tonight.
16:26Call my shot tonight.
16:27All right, I do think potentially, now don't quote me on here,
16:31all the betters out there in the DMV area.
16:33But I like Washington to cover, but Niners to get the win outright.
16:39So it'll be, what, 30-25.
16:43How about that?
16:4430-25 Niners.
16:45Okay.
16:46Now let me ask you it this way.
16:48If you guys tomorrow are talking about a really stunning, disappointing showing
16:55and somehow getting upset by Washington, what happened?
16:59Like, what's your show sound like?
17:01What are you talking about?
17:02Oh, well, it's the first time we were reacting to a loss.
17:05So, you know, the radio host will be thrilled, of course, right?
17:09Because we love panic radio.
17:10So, it's going to be interesting how it looks, right?
17:14If the quarterback doesn't look great, that's where people will start to say,
17:18oh, if Mike Evans doesn't have a good showing and Purdy doesn't,
17:21is he too reliant on Mike Evans?
17:23Is his offense too reliant on one guy?
17:25If they can't run the ball, is the running game concerned?
17:27And, conversely, if you guys go out and just put up 30-plus on him,
17:32then I do think we could talk about this defense maybe being a little smoke
17:37and mirrors.
17:38But that being said, hey, I'll take a loss on football Sunday or Tuesday
17:42any day, boys.
17:43Well, I tell you, we're in different worlds.
17:46I mean, I wouldn't know how to do a show if they won.
17:50So, like, that would be what we – we got the loss thing covered.
17:54We're so good at it, Joe.
17:55I don't mean to cut you off, boys.
17:57Can I ask you something real quick?
17:58Yeah.
17:58It's hashtag random, as my boy Guru likes to say.
18:02Did you have any inkling with this Christoph Forzingis weirdness
18:06when he was in Washington?
18:07Anything at all?
18:11Well, that's a loaded question.
18:13It is a very loaded question.
18:14That's why I had to ask it.
18:16So, here's what I'm going to say.
18:18Yes, but my voice is going up.
18:20You see what I mean?
18:21Like, there's always – like, today was the wind was blowing from east to west.
18:26So, maybe this is the day that it goes down.
18:29And it was always this sort of mysterious kid glove thing.
18:32I never knew which way was up when it came to it.
18:37Okay.
18:38It's just very strange.
18:39He's with the team, but he's not.
18:41But he's with the team, but he's not.
18:42He has a weak ankle.
18:43We're Warriors flagship, so it's going to be a lot of doom and gloom with the Warriors
18:46this year.
18:46Steph Curry's getting old, et cetera, et cetera.
18:49So, thank God.
18:49Yeah, him limping off the court was not – I did not like seeing that.
18:52That wasn't fun.
18:53No, not good at all.
18:54And people are trying to speculate.
18:56Was it the knee?
18:56Was it the ankle?
18:57I was like, it's called old.
18:58Yeah.
18:59It's age.
19:00All right.
19:00Are you on 6 to 10 local time?
19:03What's your show?
19:04Yeah, 6 to 10 Monday through Friday Pacific time.
19:07So, I am up and early at 4 a.m. every day, boys.
19:11It's great.
19:11All right.
19:12So, tomorrow I wouldn't expect it because the Niners are playing.
19:15But, like, today or on a normal day, will you discuss the Valkyries' dream final at
19:22all on your show?
19:23Oh, yeah.
19:24We are the flagship of the Valkyries.
19:26Shout out them.
19:26And they are incredible.
19:27We actually opened our show today talking about them.
19:29Huge win.
19:30You know, and it's frustrating for us, too, because, like, it's game two of the WNBA
19:36finals, right?
19:36They've only been a franchise for two years.
19:38And what does the NBA do?
19:40Puts their game right up against Monday Night Football.
19:42It's like, are you trying to grow the game?
19:45Are you trying to grow the game?
19:48That's wild.
19:49Yeah.
19:49But tomorrow, how will you do that?
19:51We give the Valkyries their love and just do because they deserve that.
19:54They've been an incredible story.
19:55I kid you not, guys.
19:56This isn't me just being the biased host because, you know, they pay us money and
20:00all that.
20:01It's not that.
20:02They legitimately have one of the best home court advantages in professional
20:07basketball.
20:07I'm not even kidding.
20:09It's louder than most Warriors games, even when the Warriors are doing well.
20:12I swear to God.
20:13Wow.
20:14So, tomorrow, you'll work them in?
20:17We'll work them in.
20:18No, yeah, for sure.
20:19And we'll welcome all callers that want to call and talk about Valkyries, for
20:22sure.
20:24I expect both teams to win tonight, but even if they lost, like, we are very
20:29much pro-Valkyries, and, you know, we wrap their arms around them, for sure.
20:32And people want to talk about them, so you call in, do that, but don't get it
20:36twisted.
20:37It's football.
20:38It's, you know, professional football because college football just doesn't rate at all.
20:42In the Bay Area, because Cal and Stanford stink.
20:46But, yeah, it'll be mostly 49ers with Valkyries, Springton.
20:50We'll see what the Warriors start on Wednesday.
20:53That's our old friend, Tavita Pritchard, coaching Stanford now, was the QB's coach
20:57here last year.
20:58Oh, is he?
20:59Oh, that seems to be working.
21:01Yeah, that's why the Commanders went out there to the, or Palo Alto, or wherever
21:05that, I don't know what their facility's called, but they were out there the last
21:07couple days after flying in, getting a little face time.
21:11Look at that.
21:11Did not know.
21:13You didn't even teach me stuff over there on the East Coast.
21:15My brother lives down near the DMV area.
21:17Should figure out where he lives.
21:18He says Virginia, so I'm a good brother, not even knowing where my...
21:21I was going to say, generally, Virginia, just sort of wave your hands.
21:24Somewhere on that coast.
21:25Yeah.
21:25Yeah.
21:26Just whatever.
21:26You know, I have six brothers, boys, so, like, the fact that I know what state he lives
21:29in, that's a plug.
21:30Oh, that is something.
21:31After four, it's kind of redundant.
21:32You don't have to keep up with everyone.
21:33You just pick a couple that you like the best.
21:36Joe, thank you, man.
21:37Appreciate you, Joe.
21:38Thanks, boys.
21:39Have a good one.
21:39You got it.
21:40There's Joe Spadoni.
21:41He does mornings in San Francisco.

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