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Jeremy White and Joe DiBiase get things started on Wednesday morning by discussing how dragged out the Connor Hellebuyck situation is becoming, and wonder if it may finally be coming to a head. They debate whether it’s a good idea for the Sabres or not, and Sneaky Joe explains why he would love the move. Then the guys move to a larger discussion about the Sabres start, and how confident they feel the team will make it back to the playoffs.
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00:00hey everybody happy wednesday hump day it's cold today 30 37 i think is the number i saw yeah
00:08yeah cold i actually 35 oof yeah 35 i still i hit the car starter me too yeah like seven
00:19minutes
00:19early yeah also yeah not to defrost just because i didn't want to sit in a cold truck i'm not
00:24ready
00:24for that yet i thought there might have been frost that's why i did it yeah like ended up being
00:29more
00:29for the comfort but i didn't know you know i don't have the good vantage point of my front
00:34windshield from like where i'm you know yeah coming down the stair so cold just gonna do it in
00:39case it is cold i i was after noting that it was cold i thought it hasn't rained really much
00:45and
00:45it's not going to for another week and we don't really chart these things unless you're looking
00:51at rainfall by year but it has been an incredible fall really great i mean the next five days or
00:56yesterday was beautiful today's 60s it's been a beautiful fall been awesome so anyway we got
01:02we got that going for us i'm going to dc this weekend and i was surprised to see that it's
01:06the
01:06exact same weather oh yeah same temperature like no warmer whatsoever despite the fact that we're
01:12going a little bit south so i don't know are we warmer than normal or are they colder than normal
01:16maybe we're warmer than normal that's a good question i don't know we're normally 50s by this
01:19point sure sure like as the highs so you know 60s for four of the next five sorry excuse me
01:25six of the next seven days from what i'm looking at yeah we are pretty great in the time of
01:30year
01:30where if it's warm people will say it's unseasonably warm even though it happens every season to be this
01:35warm it's not on it's seasonably warm fall usually has ups and downs anyway it's mini rant joe marino
01:43coming up today at eight o'clock and uh we got a sabers game tonight they're back to it they're
01:46home
01:47did i see it's their only home game in a 22 day window because they've been away for a while
01:54they come home they play this one is that right because they have a couple of home games early
01:58in november but i guess if you go back retrospective right okay that's what it is 22 days i was
02:04gonna
02:04say this is the island home game in a 22 day stretch right their last home game was october 12th
02:10nine days ago and then their next home game after today is november 4th there you go that is right
02:15yeah long time you had a four you had a three game road trip before this game and you have
02:19a
02:19four game road trip after this game and uh we talked to yarmo kekeleinen yesterday he said some
02:25things that made it to the uh the internet and some things that didn't you know like
02:30ukepekeleukinen is uh gonna be here for whatever a big part of the future of this franchise
02:35which who knows if people believe any of that said he's a big part of our future he could have
02:39meant
02:40as a trade he didn't continue he didn't let me finish as a trade ship for uh to get
02:45this other deal done yeah it could be i saw and i'd like to bring up matt perino our buddy
02:50matt
02:50perino who tweeted about this bills beat reporter for syracuse.com host of the shout podcast with
02:54uh ryan talbot he wrote he said let me get it word for word is the hell of expeculation the
03:00most
03:00annoying saga in sports ever or is it just me and i appreciated that because i think it's definitely top
03:08five it's it's been a lot it's been what is october 21st it started on june 1st ish yeah yeah
03:18started
03:18in june uh before whatever he did no it's before that whenever he did his final press conference
03:26at the end of last season which i'm pretty sure would have been because they missed the playoffs
03:31april okay so maybe for us it began in june which is what matters here but i think for them
03:37it started
03:37it started seven months ago yeah yeah in april it is you know reminiscent of the eichel one where
03:44that happened at locker clean out where he went scorched earth and said they wouldn't let me get
03:48surgery yeah and then he got traded in november so we're getting close but i i tend to agree this
03:54is
03:54where the premier league's transfer windows are better where you can't make moves for large sections
04:00of the season then they open a window like fine you want to make moves do it here you know
04:04there's
04:05speculation throughout but if only there were instead of a deadline in what march yeah the nhl
04:11said i guess that right now they have one until christmas then they close it for three days and
04:15then they reopen it but that's not really like a real window right exactly just anything to get
04:19something done you want like three trade deadlines is what you want by doing transfer windows yeah
04:24right i i don't find it annoying like i sometimes even enjoy it and i think that's my i know
04:30what matt's
04:31going for though i i thought of um when he tweeted that how long the odell will odell beckham come
04:37to
04:37the buffalo bills uh thing went okay yeah because we were in and out of that for it seemed like
04:42six
04:42months it was in the summer and then it was at the beginning of the year and then it was
04:46in the
04:47middle of the year he visited right he did like sometime in the fall he went to josh's house right
04:52so like the beckham you know courting was forever and he didn't play anywhere he never signed yeah
05:00it all resulted in literally nothing at the end of that one can i give an honorable mention and this
05:05is a bit of a self-own is the wide receiver train also this it's been like five years of
05:12this
05:13i guess you could put it in five years of this and people are still kind of thinking you know
05:18maybe
05:18and i'm telling you going in that this draft i'm gonna i'm gonna be as hard as ever on it
05:24i mean i tweeted that everybody eats was worse everybody pretending that having no good receivers
05:28was a good thing that was that was bad that was worse that was bad and that went on for
05:32far too
05:32long uh the most annoying saga yeah in buffalo sports i i like joe marino's answer who will be
05:40on with us in an hour which was aaron rogers just aaron rogers you know every year with the
05:45every year before that even the jets right like am i gonna oh am i gonna retire this time or
05:51maybe
05:51i'll retire just every year sure something good hey if they make the playoffs i might be ready to go
05:56he did that with the jets uh-huh the year he tours achilles oh right the the achilles that was
06:02man
06:02that was tough claiming he was gonna be able to maybe come back which was like not even close to
06:07the truth although didn't we find out after like i was really like six months away well since then
06:13achilles timelines have accelerated then there's the timeline to be a quarterback and there's a
06:17timeline to be like you know a rush linebacker they're not exactly the same so yeah yeah i
06:23appreciate it though i thought rogers i thought he had a good answer there i like it hella book the
06:27most annoying sports saga ever if he ever does get traded i don't know will the bloom come off it
06:32like
06:32if the sabers announce it in five minutes wouldn't we just kind of react with okay
06:40like you just finished a half marathon we did it now what now you go win the cup i mean
06:49that's that's that's what i would turn right to you like i'm a cup contender now
06:53well immediately with everything else being true about them he would of course have to still be good
06:59which he would which he would have to still be good or he would still be good which one of
07:05those he
07:05would have to or he would be he i think both well obviously would have to but he would have
07:09to be
07:09good and i think he would be fairly confident i'm pretty darn confident that a goalie that
07:14has been incredible in 10 of the 11 seasons he's played and the one where he had a knee injury
07:20is the
07:20one he didn't i would think he's gonna be you know he was gonna be great yes i would be
07:24fairly
07:25confident well when you say it like 33 years old i don't want to assume it but i would feel
07:29it's very probable that he's back to vesna level goaltender yeah he won the two vesnas before last
07:37season then what's everybody waiting for the jets to make a decision probably right and not keep
07:47playing games are they still playing games now it seems like they're actually negotiating that they
07:52are finally realizing like okay time to do something time to make a move let's not drag this through
07:58friday where we have to pay him and now we have to decide whether or not he's going to show
08:02up
08:02or not if he just does what what do we do do the players want him back just the jets
08:08i think is why
08:09that changes because they would be like all right fine enough's enough and we're actually going to
08:13talk with teams now about real packages and real trades and we want actually we want movement not
08:18just we're going to sit out here and just keep telling elliot friedman though oh we're not going to
08:21make a deal to make a bad deal i i do look at it in terms of every ounce of
08:26information seems like
08:27posturing there's one last night that oh it sounds like actually uh utah's getting closer
08:32utah might be the one right because veg melka is that the rangers are more about him veg melka
08:40okay all right he's been a starting goalie for five years and he's been about a upl level starter
08:49but i thought i thought that was maybe that was hitting the web and hitting the the wires out there
08:55as
08:55everyone's talking about like this might happen who was that yesterday a steve ellicott right
08:59yes it's a utah reporter right yes yeah yeah and that maybe utah is closing in now did the jets
09:05just
09:05do that to try and get this thing over the line i don't know maybe it ultimately happens the way
09:11or
09:11they might have a real offer on the table like that's all right that's right probably have a real
09:15offer on the table to the jets and they have a real offer on the table to the rangers to
09:19rid themselves
09:19of their starting goalie if they get hell about right and i know this doesn't factor in but
09:24the thing we mentioned at the beginning of the segment here that the sabers have one home game
09:28in a 22 day window if he's not on the team by 7 p.m you you won't see him
09:34for weeks because they're
09:36not home for you know a long time after this little road trip they're on well i'm sure he wouldn't
09:40make
09:40it to buffalo by i'm sure he wouldn't make it tonight either that's what i'm saying right yeah listen
09:44when we had when we had yarmo on yesterday i thought i'm in a little deadline could they get this
09:49done and he comes on and says here's the news but that didn't happen anyway tonight the flyers i am
09:56eager to feel really good about the sabers and i don't know when that will happen that doesn't mean
10:00i feel bad i'm eager to feel good when will that happen if they beat the flyers like six to
10:07one
10:07that'd help don't fall down two goals going to the third period then get it to overtime and i don't
10:15want i don't want that anymore i was encouraged to hear yarmo say that you know the the record is
10:20okay and he even said it kind of with that tone he sounds disappointed with their start if there's
10:27anything i could gather from him he sounds disappointed that they have 10 points in nine
10:32games and he says he doesn't look at the standings but he watches the team on the ice and the
10:36point
10:36pace and all that so i was i was encouraged to hear that that he sounds disappointed he also said
10:42he
10:42looks at the standings like what was it 15 game what like 15 game mark is when he starts looking
10:47at it and i asked lindy that last week like what kind of chunks do you look at for trends
10:51versus
10:52this versus that and lindy said five game chunks which is kind of back to the lindy's five of last
10:57year so he's got that the gm's got 15 to 20 games like all right home for the flyers tonight
11:02get a win
11:03it's um they're the biggest favorite they've been all season okay which i mean they're playing
11:07they're playing one of the worst teams in the league i think by points percentage they are playing
11:12well they're playing the worst team in the east the worst team in the east the worst team on goal
11:15differential they have won two in a row so if they're really bad they're due to lose soon
11:19if they if they would have whatever i we did this last year and you guys got on me because
11:25i started
11:25calling games early in the season must wins and that was a fun little bit we had i won't do
11:31that
11:31because you guys got all mad at me but you're playing them it ended up working stopping doing it
11:36they immediately started winning games well you stopped saying muscle no they they won the last
11:43one i did and then i never had to call another one a must win because they won so many
11:47games that's
11:48what it was so you're welcome uh edmonton the edmonton uh that was the first game of the 10
11:52game it might have been it and then all of a sudden they turned it around that my message got
11:56through that's what happened uh but you're taking credit for the yes all that for the turnaround yes
12:02putting my stamp on the team with the must wins uh but come on worst team in the east tonight
12:07at home right you but you also have what is it four days of rest yes three days of rest
12:13um
12:14they played on monday so it's you know you got a couple extra days than what they have yeah yeah
12:20like there there is no excuse for not winning this game tonight gotta win have to i'm saying with you
12:26like i would love to see them be dominant in a game just just roll them like body bag first
12:34period
12:34game feels out of reach but obviously anything that's a win you just have to get a w against
12:40this team tonight this team is not good and they've won two in a row but man on the season
12:45as a whole
12:46where like they're a minus 19 goal differential already in 11 games i mean they are off to a very
12:52bad
12:52start and everybody didn't think they were that good last year when they remember they made the
12:56playoffs with like how many shootout wins didn't they make it with like 15 shootout wins last year
13:01the flyers yeah well i hope you're ready for the savers to maybe be that team this year if they're
13:04going to be the overtime merchant team which i think again is a good thing the wins the bonus points
13:09are
13:09the fake ones but if you make it to a lot yeah that matters yeah they won last year the
13:13flyers to
13:14make the playoffs they had 20 they had 27 regulation wins in 82 games they had 33 regulation and
13:22overtime wins they had 10 shootout wins yeah last year that's a lot that's a lot 803 05 50 hockey
13:29just hockey could use it hockey could use something hockey could use this uh hometown remix give me
13:38something you know the larkin trade might have some movement too and the sabers are not on that list i
13:42saw that i i was i was excited for a moment because it showed up on twitter dylan larkin has
13:48expanded his
13:49list and i had to click show more to see if the sabers made that list and they did not
13:53make the
13:53list did you think there was a chance they would i thought there was a chance that they would be
13:57on
13:57that list would they have a better chance if they were in first place i mean you know six more
14:02points
14:02than they have now maybe maybe not but i was because i think they probably need that more than they
14:09need hellebuck but whatever you've got to get something that is good that's available and i i was for a
14:16moment briefly excited that that maybe they could be on the list and they are not i wonder how many
14:21teams it would take for them to be on the list 20 30 there's 32 teams you think that's around
14:28maybe take out the canadian teams and then like maybe you could rank ahead of some other some other
14:33bad ones but it might be tough yeah maybe he doesn't want to go to seattle right yeah yeah he
14:40had
14:40utah on the list he did utah utah's uh i mean they're in first that's kind of the point right
14:44utah's good yeah it's utah on the list and the sabers are not because they're off to a better
14:48start this season i don't think so but they're just in general a better destination right now who
14:53knows players seem to want to go there they do i don't know what is it the what is it
14:58is the weather
15:00what's what's good in utah people like salt lake city i think people really really like the owner
15:05there ryan smith he owns the jazz too he's a young guy super like a lot of money and he
15:11like he's a
15:12backwards hat guy yeah backwards hat guy and like puts tons of money into the team just sort of is
15:17always around like it's the story the backwards hat guy yeah he's a billionaire backwards hat owner
15:23is young and he's right yeah his agent calls him yo larks i got another team for you this owner
15:28he wears his hat backwards uh-huh i'm in yep let's go no all right well hey the hip young
15:37owner
15:37that probably does do a lot right it's the investment in the team that's really what it is
15:42he's pouring into that the arena stuff they're doing in the roster and a lot of new owners do that
15:47too don't like when they buy a team what's don't they all often make splashes in like the first year
15:52or two that their owner you want to put your stamp on the team right like yeah that's what you
15:56want
15:56to do well thinking about utah they are the team that is in the running with the sabers the most
16:04on
16:04hellebuck they are also in their division right like they're in the central together so would they
16:10be afraid would winnipeg be afraid of doing that in division i mean we've watched the bills not get
16:16a deal done because it's in division that's a four team division in the nhl you'd be taking out
16:20eight teams it's a little different but if you are the jets and you are worried about him
16:26you would probably prefer to trade him to buffalo to utah by a lot that's a good point because now
16:32he's in my way and if he ends up being good to great or if it's still good to great
16:37which you
16:38know you think you might be based on how much you're holding him out for uh he's in your way
16:43so edge sabers whatever makes it not happen as much in the nhl because of how big the divisions are
16:52probably like you're eliminating a full quarter of the league if you take out your own division
16:56yeah like i'm i'm we have an we have a recent example of a team just taking the one the
17:01best
17:02offer it's in their division like the and that that's game is tonight i think ottawa traded brady
17:06kachuk to florida right which it's absurd that those two teams are in the same division but they
17:10are the sabers and senators traded uh uh cousins and norris yes yes in division like granted maybe they
17:18weren't worried either way yeah but that's a trade that they made in division it's not that unusual
17:22right right because you're taking out a quarter of the league if you if you don't if you do that
17:26yep but if it's all if all else is equal then that could be it the other thing is i
17:33don't really
17:33know what to make of like okay what if the rangers do prefer one guy over the other does that
17:37actually
17:38have any how much does that dictate who winnipeg does a deal with because are they just hanging out
17:44saying uh yeah we'll just take whichever the two makes the deal with winnipeg yeah we'll take your
17:50guy and we might prefer veg melka but you know we'll take either one and we'll be we'll be happy
17:54with that or are the rangers out there telling the jets uh you better take utah's offer because
18:00like we're only going to make that work with them like are they trying to dictate who the jets do
18:04a
18:04deal with that that could impact it a little bit it's a very odd complicating part of the deal that
18:12you don't get in most deals is both these teams need the rangers to make it kind of full make
18:19it
18:19make it happen yep and if they are trying to push the jets one way or the other i wonder
18:24how much
18:25that could actually matter to who gets this deal done 8030550 big show coming up today we've got uh
18:33hot or cold well that beatings hot or cold coming up which uh the open that joe kelly played this
18:38morning including lake area soup and ketchup a fruit smoothie uh those are some of the great
18:43productions of hot or cold so that's coming up today we have a big station announcement
18:49i had a choice where to slot it and i chose 7 30 7 30 7 30 for the big
18:55announcement like that
18:56excited about the big announcement joe marino at eight o'clock he's uh posted his all 22 on the
19:01bills and the raiders and uh beyond that wherever the world takes us i suppose by week the eagles uh
19:10firestorm continues yeah or actually gets fired back up really right like patriots this week play
19:17the bears if the patriots were to beat the bears could i could i safely make this statement that
19:24the schedule for this year would be done you could not do it for them this year they beat the
19:30bills
19:30to beat the raiders and to beat the bears right like i just think it would last year's conversation
19:36would be over that no they're not winning because the schedule they're winning now because they're a
19:41better team that's tomorrow night 8 15 patriots bears that seems like a big one yeah yeah i think
19:48it's on the road if they beat the bears on the road come on yeah i would i would you
19:52wouldn't be
19:53able to do the schedule no they beat the bills and the bears on the road i don't even know
19:55how much
19:56credit i want to give for the raiders but the those two on the road they hammered the raiders
20:01and they that's true too they 45 to 17 that's fine we can do it about the chiefs they're the
20:06schedule merchants this year i like it chargers which a lot of people said they didn't even look
20:11good against the dolphins who they didn't look good against they took overtime to beat the colts
20:16and it took a fumble on a kickoff to beat the raiders yeah schedule merchants that's this year's
20:22they have taken over i just saw this the chiefs have taken over the uh title the jaguars had it
20:26and lost it now it's the chiefs the chiefs are the only team with both an offense and defense in
20:31the top five right now yeah epa per play
20:36i don't like that feeling well but they're playing they're playing nobody they're playing bad teams
20:41denver is their other win right look at the look at the bill's Denver look look at the bill's schedule
20:45and look at the chief schedule the bills are five and one against considerably better teams so you know
20:50yeah that we did we did have a monday i think you weren't here we had a caller that was
20:54trying
20:55to claim that their schedule has been soft so far the bills and i think that's just if you looked
21:00at
21:00the record it's probably not as good as we were expecting but that is then to say that you don't
21:07think the rams are a good win because the rams are two and four right and i just i don't
21:11treat it
21:11that way are the texans not a good win anymore because they have struggled a bit in the last four
21:17games
21:18although they beat the jaguars right so back on the way up but they have a losing record still
21:23the chargers are the one i mean sure that looks like an easy win looking back now but
21:29it's early in the season you have a lot of teams that have records that are 500 or losing records
21:34that i would be pretty confident are going to come back and then a few of those i think around
21:38the bill schedule that we've already seen rams included 8030550 to uh be a part of the conversation
21:45jeremy and joe lots to get to today so join us on this uh very chilly wednesday it's again
21:50a uh a chilly day out there so dress warm high today will be uh reasonable it's going to get
21:56up
21:56to about 62 but right now 35 degrees and clear it's it's beautiful it's just it's cold and uh we're
22:04hanging out with you here on wgr
22:06you