00:00As Brazil is entering in the final days before the runoff, the results will be
00:05meaningful in the regional and global context. To analyze the situation from
00:11São Paulo we are joined by Cristiano Adario, professor at the Federal
00:16Institute of São Paulo and PhD in Economic History from the University of
00:23São Paulo. Hello Cristiano, welcome to From the South. Hello, good evening. It's a
00:31pleasure to be here. It's a pleasure to have you. Well, in these elections, what is
00:36really at stake? What lies behind them at the regional and geopolitical levels?
00:45What is at stake in these elections? A lot of things. It's really connected to the
00:51Brazilian tradition. If Brazil will continue to be connected with its own
00:58multilateral traditions, if Brazil continue to be a force in connection with the
01:04multipolar order, multipolar construction of the world. We remember that President
01:10Lula was in the foundation of the BRICS groups in his second government, so the
01:17other side is really, really contrary. You are seeing in all of the world a new
01:25Cold War, a new Cold War, a new moment in growing militarism in the world. So the
01:33diplomacy, the strength of the diplomacy politically, the multipolar order will be very necessary. It's very
01:47concerning in this moment in the world. And Lula, its government, is connected with these traditions.
01:54So in worldwide scale, I think this is the great problem, the great question, what is at stake in this
02:03election.
02:03This election. If Brazil will be totally connected with more militaristic and less political order, with PL groups, with Bolsonaro
02:15groups, or if Brazil will continue to be a force in multipolar order.
02:24And also, the other thing is, what is the U.S. targeting? The rare earth, the end of the peaks,
02:32and what are the main indications of its predatory interests in Brazil?
02:41It's connected with a lot of things. It's really, really connected with our digital era. You are seeing a growing
02:50China, a growing industrial China, and Brazil is evident, it's very evident that if Brazil remain more neutral, more diplomatically
03:01in the middle,
03:02in Brazil, it will have a lot of reindustrialization chances, growing, economically growing chances. So this position of the far
03:16-right group in this election, they already said they want to give all the rare earths, all the rare minerals
03:23of Brazil to be processed, processed in USA.
03:28And this is at stake in this moment. And there is a lot of connected things. If the peaks you
03:38said about is one of the points, but I really think there are rare earths and oil. Oil is more
03:46strategic in this moment for the U.S. interest.
03:52I think you have to see Brazil, like other countries in Latin America, in this rivalry between the U.S.
04:00and the growing economic power, industrial power of China.
04:04Thank you very much, Cristiano, for the information you gave us and the analysis that you made. Thank you for
04:10being with us, hearing from the South.
04:15It's a pleasure.