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Ben Standig from the Last Man Standig Podcast and Substack joins The Kevin Sheehan Show following Washington’s Week 7 bye, previewing the critical "Code Red #2" matchup against the Philadelphia Eagles, examining Kurt Warner’s film critique of Jayden Daniels, analyzing the running back rotation without Jacory Croskey-Merritt, and addressing defensive health updates and special teams concerns.
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00:00Ben Standings with us as he is every Monday. They'll be back at it today. Dan Quinn will talk
00:06at one o'clock. We'll hear from him after the bye week. They'll start preparations in earnest on
00:11Wednesday for the Eagles on Sunday night. A game that, you know, after the Giants win in overtime
00:19in Houston, again, it's not like they're not going to play the final 10 anyway. They've got 11 left
00:26and if they lose on Sunday night, they still got 10 left. But I think this becomes the
00:32second code red game of the year. They tied the first code red game, but I kind of feel
00:38like they got a win against the Eagles or it's going to be a long and early. It's going to
00:45be an early offseason and it will be a long offseason conversation that will begin. What
00:55only would they fall to 0-3-1 in the division, but now they would fall even further behind
01:02those other teams. And while we're all, you know, it's completely fair to say that none
01:07of these teams right now look to be particularly impressive. At some point, you do have to start
01:11putting together some wins. And this one's at home coming off the bye week. Philly is all
01:19kinds of beat up. They're playing tonight as well. So it's a shorter week for them. So
01:24there's a lot of reasons that, you know, favor Washington, but ultimately, yeah, they got
01:29to get it done on the field. And I totally with you. If it's easier to call the code red
01:35than a must win, then that, yes.
01:37What do you think was priority number one or maybe the top two or three priorities during
01:43the bye week? What do you think they accomplished? I'm sure we'll hear from Quinn today on what he
01:47thinks they accomplished. What do you think the goals were during the bye week?
01:54Yeah, I mean, obviously there's things to work on in all aspects of the team, but, you know,
02:00I think offensively is where I think a lot of this has to start. You know, the defense has not
02:06been
02:06able to play necessarily four full quarters, but at the same time, you know, they just got back a lot
02:13of their players. I mean, they're pretty much, unless I'm forgetting something other than like
02:18Leo Chennault, I guess, they're pretty much back to, you know, the lineup they have is what they
02:23wanted to have. So you would have to think that they should be in a pretty good space from the
02:27personnel perspective. Offensively, obviously, you know, no Laramie Tunsil, no Terry McLaurin.
02:34And, you know, so that's a massive blow. Already no Ja'Cory Krosky merit as well. So I think it's
02:40got
02:40to be finding ways to help this offense out on the line. You know, they're, according to ESPN's
02:48win rate, they're dead last in run blocking. Obviously, the pass rush pressure has been there
02:54the last couple of weeks as teams have started to blitz more and more. And, you know, again,
02:59no Terry McLaurin takes away a huge weapon. So, I mean, I think those, those angles have
03:04got to be addressed. I don't know what they're really going to do on the offensive line because
03:08there's not a personnel change to make that I can see, obviously, but, you know, they got
03:12to do something to give Jaden Daniels more time, but also, you know, for him to, I don't
03:18know if it's trust the line and his receivers a little bit more, whatever it is, but for him
03:22to be able to, you know, make some more aggressive throws out there that he's maybe left on
03:29the table at times. But I think, to me, that side of the ball is where they need more focus.
03:36Yeah, I mean, inciting run block win rate, next gen's stat where Washington is 32nd in
03:43run block win rate, it makes what their pass block win rate even more remarkable because
03:50it's seventh best in the league, which I think last weekend was, or Monday night was probably
03:56their worst outing from a pass blocking standpoint, but what could really help this offense
04:05football a little bit. And, you know, I don't think we've seen signs really of that except
04:12for, believe it or not, Jeremy McNichols, you know, who was the second, you know, running
04:18back to rip off a long touchdown run to have it called back due to a penalty. How do you
04:25see
04:25the running back room playing out on Sunday night? Who's going to be the primary, if there
04:32is a primary ball carrier, and maybe we won't have one, maybe it'll be White McNichols, but
04:36what do you think they're leaning towards as far as running back goes?
04:42Yeah, I don't know if there's like a bell cow scenario. I mean, Rashad White's been the one
04:47who's obviously been here all season, has, you know, has been effective at times as a
04:53pass catcher, a guy who can also, you know, carry the ball when needed. But, you know,
04:58McNichols is, you know, it always feels like a guy who you're like, okay, but can you do
05:04a little bit better than him at that spot? You know, he's not necessarily a guy you're going
05:08to want to lean into as a runner, as a passer. We know he can block, but, you know, you
05:13can
05:13probably do a little bit better in some of these thoughts, right? Except it always comes
05:17back to him being the guy. Part of that was, of course, Eckler being hurt last year, and
05:22maybe this time because Bill's on IR, that takes place. But he just, you know, he's just
05:28effective. And I think one thing that they liked about this last game was there were fewer
05:34second and third and longs compared to some other games, and that gives them more options
05:39in, you know, when it gets to some of their two second and third down plays. And I think
05:44McNichols is an example of that where, yeah, he may be, yeah, you mentioned he had the 30
05:49plus yard run for a touchdown that got called back. But generally speaking, he's not going
05:53to necessarily break a ton of long ones, but he's also going to get some more positive plays
05:57out of it. Not just, with Bill, it was becoming a lot of zero yards, one yards, then a big
06:03play. And I think with him, it'll be more consistent. Same with Rashad White. I think there's
06:08a little more consistency. Eckler, I just don't know what to make yet. We haven't seen a ton
06:12of him since they brought him up, other than that first game. So, you know, is this an
06:18opportunity for him coming off a bye week to get more involved? Perhaps. And obviously,
06:22you know, we've seen he's got, you know, based on his career and even just his time here with
06:26Washington, you know, he's got maybe the bigger potential of the lot. But, you know, until
06:31we see him play, I'm not sure that he's going to be in there a lot over White and McNichols.
06:36Ben does such a phenomenal job, as you guys know, if you've been listening, it's the way
06:42I feel covering the team. And he's got his own substack called Last Man Standing. I would
06:47encourage all of you to subscribe. He wrote yesterday about Jaden Daniels. And the title
06:54of the story is The Jaden Daniels Conversation is Worth Having. And then he wrote, and yes,
07:00we've both been dealing with some of this, everyone will be okay. It's all right to have
07:06a conversation, which may include some constructive criticism for Jaden Daniels. So give everybody
07:15the gist of the Jaden Daniels conversation and why everybody does, they can take a deep breath
07:22and not feel offended by the conversation. Yeah, I mean, look, first of all, we can all say
07:29that he's, you know, especially in a world without Laramie Tunsil and Terry McLaurin, if
07:34there was a debate, that he's the best player on the team. He's certainly the most important
07:37player on the team, right? And yet, they're 0-7-1 in his last eight starts. The Giants have
07:44won more games in the past year with J.J. McCarthy starting than Washington has with Jaden Daniels.
07:50And J.J. McCarthy made his first start yesterday. So we can sit here and say that it's blame
07:55the line, blame the defense, blame the coaching, whatever, but they're not winning. And the point
08:01of having a guy like Jaden Daniels is that he makes up for the mistakes and the limitations
08:07elsewhere. That's why you pay quarterbacks all that kind of money. Now, he's obviously played,
08:12I think he's played fairly well since he's been back. I mean, he had, you know, 300 yards
08:17and two touchdown passes against the Niners. You know, he was central to the, to their
08:22rally, came a little bit short. But, you know, he played, he played well. And we've already
08:28talked a lot about, of course, a couple of odd QB 101 gaffes that he made the last couple
08:35of games. And that's fair. But I thought that, you know, if people didn't see it, Kurt Warner
08:39put out an analysis video of Jaden Daniels. It's not an X's and O's, it's a mentality video in which
08:47Warner sees a lot of plays. Just looking at the Niners game, a lot of guys open that Jaden, it's
08:54not
08:54even so much that he's not throwing to them. It's that he's like predetermining that he's not going
08:59to throw in their direction. He's going to go for more of the check down type of play. And, you
09:06know,
09:06I think an example of this is there's a stat out there, turnover worthy throws, right? So basically,
09:13you know, you put a ball up or even if you don't get intercepted, you put a ball up where
09:17the other
09:18team could have gotten it. According to, I think I want to say PFF, but one of the sites, he
09:23has not
09:23had a single turnover worthy throw this year. Zero interceptions as well. That's great. But it also
09:30may lead to what Warner is talking about, that he's not willing to sort of take the chances
09:36that you kind of have to sometimes. Sure, you may get a play, a pass picked off, but you're going
09:40to make that defense pay when something is open as well. And that just hasn't maybe been there as
09:45much. Again, it's hard to, I understand if you're just looking at the raw numbers, you'd say, well,
09:49what are you talking about, idiot? Not throwing interceptions is a good thing. Totally. But,
09:54you know, to that point, they've got to be able to make some more plays, aggressive plays. And,
10:00you know, Warner is not the only one that I heard talk about this. And I did speak with him
10:04one-on-one.
10:05You can find that video up on my site. But I think there's something to that, that there's,
10:12you know, it's not that Jaden Nichols is playing poorly, but there's another level that he's just
10:17not quite getting to. And this may also lead into some of the odd choices, you know, that he's made,
10:24you know, in terms of the end of the game with the Giants and the throwing it away on fourth
10:28down
10:28against the Niners. Is he sort of, I don't want to say in his own head, but has he been
10:32reticent to
10:33make some of these aggressive throws? Is the coaching staff sort of knocking some of the
10:38instincts out of him? I don't know. But something does feel off there. And to your point at the
10:43beginning, it's okay to say that. We're not saying trade him. We're not saying he's awful.
10:48We're not saying, you know, you'd rather have a hundred other quarterbacks. None of that. It's to
10:52say, if this team is going to win, he has to be at the level, at a higher level than
10:57we've seen.
10:57And that's okay to say. So I think that's, I think that's just the gist of the, of the
11:02conversation. Yeah. I saw the turnover worthy thing last week. Um, keep in mind, it's actually
11:09not the percentage. It's the actual number of turnover worthy throws and he's played in three
11:15and a half games and most quarterbacks have now played in seven. So there is that, you know,
11:19aspect of it. I mean, Lamar Jackson's very low on the turnover worthy throw because he hasn't played,
11:25um, uh, you know, quarterbacks have doubled up the number of games for the most part.
11:30Um, he's played that's part of it, but, but it doesn't take away from the general message,
11:34which I think is true. I think he has made a conscious effort to be more protective of the
11:41football and perhaps has turned down a pre-snap Steve Suter, who, you know, is just phenomenal
11:48at, at breaking it down. I mean, he had 11 plays in which Jaden just for some inexplicable
11:55reason didn't go to where the play said he should have gone to. He also had 11 plays that were
12:02just
12:02magnificent, that were incredible throws, incredibly impactful, uh, to having a chance to win the game.
12:10So yeah, it's, it's an interesting thing to consider. And look, I thought that, I mean,
12:16to me still the most startling thing about Jaden's game this year, the two major errors,
12:21that is a revelation for me. Uh, I didn't know that that wasn't an area in which he had great
12:30feel
12:30for, you know, a great instinct for, and perhaps it was Cliff Kingsbury who was a big part of sort
12:37of
12:37in his ear, you know, walking him through all those situations, uh, as a rookie. Um, but yeah,
12:45at some point, and it might be starting Sunday night, he's going to have to let it rip a little
12:51bit more. I guess that's kind of what Kurt Warner's, you know, overarching theme to his message would be.
12:58Yeah, absolutely. I mean, um, when we talked, he was very clear to say, look, I wouldn't even bother
13:04making this video. If I didn't think that Jaden Daniels had greatness in it, we already saw it in
13:082024. Um, so it's not as if we're talking about, you know, a quarterback who doesn't have the skill
13:13set saying, Hey, he has to do more. And it's also not about a throw that like would be ridiculous
13:20in
13:20terms of like, there's no room. Uh, the receiver's not really open, but you're saying you could make
13:25the throw. It's not that. If you watch his YouTube video that, that Warner put up, uh, last week as
13:31well, you know, he, he, he, I liked several plays where there is a receiver open and not just open,
13:36you know, you know, and again, in a basic way, in an open, open, open, um, and, and open in
13:43the way
13:43that in Suter pointed this out in the way that the play was obviously designed for him to look
13:49first, including by the way, the fourth and two, where he threw it away. You've got three receivers.
13:56He should have been working the three receiver side against the zone. And Antonio Williams is wide open,
14:02wide open for an easy pitch and catch, move the sticks. And, um, and there were a couple of other,
14:08uh, key plays as well, but yeah. Uh, so, but at the same time, they're not in that game with
14:15a chance
14:16without some of the great plays that he made in the game. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, again, it's the,
14:25you know, again, it's, it's, it's, I understand that, you know, there are just some fans who are just
14:31going to never want to criticize their team, their guy for anything. And I can't really speak to that,
14:36to them, but that's how they're going to be. But at the end of the day, Jaden Daniels is really,
14:41really good. And you want him to be better in a way that it's not unrealistic because we've already
14:46seen it. Right. No, I always go, I always go back to that preseason game. The first drive he ever
14:52had
14:52here with Washington, it's third down. They call for a very safe screen pass to get off the field.
14:57Nobody gets hurt. He audibles out of it, throws like a 40 yard bomb to the army Brown. And the
15:02whole point of why I always bring that up is that was the moment I said, Oh, wow, this guy
15:05is not
15:05afraid of the moment. And I'm not suggesting he is afraid of the moment now, but whether it's
15:10the injuries, whether he doesn't trust the line, um, you know, I, I doubt this year, the issue is
15:16trusting the receivers, but you know, who knows something feels is not, is not the same way.
15:21And that's what Warner is saying. What others are saying. That sounds like what Steve Suter were saying.
15:25Um, and that's the difference. It's not enough to just say he's their best player. Yeah. But the
15:30point is that when you have that guy, he, he fixes the problem, but that's the issue. And right now
15:38he's not necessarily being as aggressive as he would need to be in order to do that. And we've seen
15:43him
15:43do it before. And that's where it's sort of like, okay, what's going on here? I think the other thing
15:48too, Ben, that you just have to point out, and I don't know why national guys and anybody else
15:54ignores this fact. He is only played in consecutive football games, start to finish healthy, start to
16:03finish healthy in back-to-back games. He's only done that one, two times, two times since his rookie
16:13season. He did it in the chargers and the bears game last year, uh, when they went back to back
16:19and he started consecutive weeks, start to finish healthy in the game. And he did it these past two
16:26games in the giants and the 49ers game, the lack of availability, the lack of healthy availability
16:34availability has essentially, it eliminates any reasonable evaluation in my mind's eye from last
16:42year. And so far this year, three and a half games with just one back-to-back, let's hope, you
16:49know,
16:49hopefully with the brace, fingers crossed, knock on wood, do whatever you need to do. This Sunday night
16:54will be the first time since 2024. He's played in three consecutive games, healthy, start to finish.
17:04That can explain a lot of rustiness, not necessarily totally comfortable, a lot of what's gone on, not
17:15to mention the pieces that were out there when he was playing last year and even this year. And by
17:20the
17:21way, this year moving forward without the other two best players on the team, Tunsell and Terry, but
17:27that, you know, to play in year two and year three consecutive games just two times is a real big
17:36part of everything that is fair to constructively criticize. Yeah, no, and I think that's a good way
17:44you're phrasing it. It's not the standard conversation of always, always getting hurt. You can't rely on that.
17:49It's the, he's been hurt and therefore it's messed with his preparation, the constant in and out of
17:56the lineup. He has to, you know, like you said, knock off maybe some rust or, and also I think,
18:00look, the mental part, I don't want to get hurt. You know, I'm sure he doesn't want to keep getting
18:06hit. He got to hit a ton in that 49ers game beyond, you know, just even like sacks or things
18:11like that.
18:12And, you know, obviously that could weigh on you as well. He's, he stays in the pocket. He's not
18:16rich. I don't see him shying away, but in terms of maybe being, you know, looking for the, the,
18:21the exits route quicker than maybe he should have, that could be a part of it too. So yeah, it's,
18:27it's definitely a huge, a huge deal. You know, it is hilarious to a degree that the, the, the elbow
18:34and the brace have really, as a topic, have really fallen aside because of what, you know, because of the
18:40end, the end of the Giants game and that fourth down and then just, you know, them losing and,
18:44you know, not winning at least, uh, as well. So, you know, it's a good sign that he's been able
18:49to,
18:49to get by these last couple of weeks and not seem to be impeded by the elbow. But yeah, I
18:54mean,
18:54like you said, he's, this will be the third game he starts in a row. Hopefully he finishes it. And,
19:00uh, yeah, that's a huge deal for, uh, for all of us. No doubt. Yeah. It would be the first
19:05time since
19:06his rookie year. Uh, if he starts and finishes the game Sunday night, uh, healthy, um, which would
19:12be nice. And yeah, the, the record is what it is, but again, it's, there's context around all of
19:20that. Um, all right. Uh, what'd you learn? I'll ask you what I asked callers. What'd you learn
19:25watching NFL football, which you had a chance to do without worrying about Washington playing for the
19:31first time this year? Um, you know, every team has, I mean, the big one is always like everybody
19:40has their problems. Every team is going through something. And I think we get so isolated in what
19:45we're talking about for better or for worse that you act like, you know, we act like, you know,
19:51the sky's falling or this is the greatest thing, um, that's happened, uh, of all time. Uh, you know,
19:57how about the, uh, how about the Ravens? Um, that, that first half was super boring. 13 zipped
20:02Bengals could do nothing. And then I went away for a bit, came back and now the Bengals are winning
20:07and just ran the Ravens off the field. Obviously they don't have their quarterback in Lamar Jackson,
20:13so they were limited offensively, but, and then Joe Burrow eventually, uh, got going there. Um,
20:20watching the, the, the Sunday night game, it's even more badly than Washington with the backup
20:25quarterback, beat Seattle by putting up 30 plus. Well, I guess they didn't, the offense
20:29didn't quote solely put up 30 points, but you know, that was a team that they did. It just
20:34comes to show that result, how the, how Seattle has dominated an undefeated Kansas city team,
20:39uh, defensively, uh, having Washington get it done against them at the, you know, this is why they,
20:46you know, they play the game because you never, you never know. Um, but yeah, ultimately I just think
20:50that everybody has some issues, whatever it may be. And you know, this is what it's all about. You
20:56got to find ways to work it out. I mean, I'm sure Matt LaFleur with the Packers is, you know,
21:00pulling his hair out with seem to be a lot of penalties that seem to go against them or calls
21:05that didn't go their way that maybe should have, and they end up losing. The kicker misses a couple
21:10of field goals. Uh, that's how football goes, man. It is, um, it is an unfair situation most of the
21:16time. And, you know, between the injuries and just the breaks going your way, you got to hope
21:21for the best and look 2024, all the breaks went Washington's way. And since then very little.
21:28And that's why you got to find ways to, you know, to tip the scales in your direction whenever you
21:32can. Yeah. I think, and I talk about this a lot and have over the years, it's not unusual for
21:39hardcore fans to kind of focus solely on Sundays on their own team. But what you get when you watch
21:46the rest of the league is you understand, yeah, Washington commits a lot of penalties, but right
21:51now they're 19th in the league in penalties against their 16th in pre-snap penalties. So 15 teams have
21:59committed more pre-snap penalties than Washington. Yeah. A lot of teams call timeouts before the five
22:04minute mark of each half. Uh, it happens every weekend. I went back, um, and two weekends ago,
22:1120 out of the 30 teams that played called a timeout before five minutes, uh, remained, uh, in either
22:17half. Um, and yeah, teams get bad calls that go against them and go for them. Uh, green Bay was
22:25on
22:25the wrong side of, of what seemed like an overwhelming number of really errant calls like we have so far
22:33multiple times. I saw this, um, uh, Mike Garofalo from NFL network, ESPN, whatever it is, maybe it's
22:40the same thing. Uh, Fred Warner find $65,000 plus for the two helmet to helmets on Chigakonquo,
22:50one of which was flagged and the flag got picked up, which was absurd. And the other one wasn't flagged.
22:57And yeah, the, these were, you know, meaningful, you know, helmet to helmet penalties, uh, in the
23:04game. And, and Mustafa had one too, that wasn't called, uh, in the game. I'm not, I'm not sure what
23:10he got a fine for, but yeah, it's, um, look, no one around the league is committed an error quite
23:16like
23:17Washington did at the end of overtime against the giants. That's really never happened in the history
23:24of the league. So that one does stand out, but pretty much everything else that they've done
23:29that we've complained about has been done by virtually every other team in the league for the
23:34most part. And you realize that when you watch the rest of the league, you also realize, man, this league
23:40is loaded with great receivers and great running backs. And those teams are doing pretty well. And we
23:49don't have either one of them right now, moving forward the rest of the way, we don't have a
23:55great receiver and we don't have a great running back. Another kind of takeaway from watching a full
24:00Sunday of the rest of the league. Yeah. I would say on the running back front, you know, I'm definitely
24:06one of the people who buys into the idea of you can find running backs. Like you don't necessarily
24:11have to spend a first round pick or pay, pay a free agent, a ton of money. But obviously sometimes
24:16that works out like Kenneth Walker with the chiefs, uh, you know, a great, uh, great signing
24:21there, but, um, you also have to find the guys, you know, it's not just enough to say, yeah, find
24:26them, you know, that they may have found something with your Corey Krosky merit, uh, you know,
24:31obviously really good last year, this year it's been bit off. We'll see what happens, but that's
24:35a position. I do feel like they need to get more than they've had since they've been here. Cause
24:40it's been some sort of, uh, running back by committee bit without one guy being sort
24:45of truly special in any kind of way, whether that's, you know, running between the tackles
24:50or the pass catcher or what have you. And I feel like that's a spot that's going to be
24:54needed to upgrade here at some point, not just simply, um, you know, again, I'm all for not
25:01spending a lot of that position relative to, you know, you can find the help, but at some
25:07point you need a little bit more and if I haven't been able to find it in, in the way
25:10they're doing it, then maybe they have to look for it higher in the draft or some other
25:13way. Yeah. And then watching yesterday morning, watching chase young wreak havoc in that game,
25:20he's second in the league behind Will Anderson and sacks, uh, at this point, it'd be nice to
25:25have a really good pass rusher. Um, I'm actually legitimately happy for him. Cause I think that
25:31there was a lot of bad advice for him as a young player perhaps. Uh, and he's
25:37found his way and he's healthy and he is a truly game impacting pass rusher in the NFL
25:44right now. Um, and we drafted him at number two overall and got one season in which he
25:51was truly impactful. And that was his rookie year and that's it. Um, all right. What else
25:56anything? Uh, well, like I said, Dan Quinn talks a little bit later today. I don't think
26:03there's really not much on the injury front. Kinlaw I'm worried about. Should I be worried
26:09about Kinlaw? Uh, I mean, I, I haven't heard that you need to be worried about him, but
26:15obviously, um, you know, he, uh, you know, went down in that game. So I don't know that
26:20we need to worry, uh, quite yet, but yeah, that, that's one of them. I think most of the
26:24guys who've been on IR have essentially come off already. Uh, so now it's just a longer term
26:29guy like Tunsell and Johnny Newton and, um, and that, but, uh, you know, hopefully they
26:35came out of that last game relatively, relatively healthy and, uh, you know, they can move forward
26:40again. I mean, yes, they lost Terri McStory and I understand that. I'm just sort of that
26:45that's already happened. There's nothing they can do about that. Um, and so for the rest of
26:49the group can be, um, can be okay. I mean, like I said, defensively, assuming that Kinlaw is,
26:55you know, is good to go. They, this is about as healthy as they've been all season.
26:59Uh, in terms of the whole group. So what they miss back with cross back. Exactly. Yeah.
27:05Right, right, right. I mean, to have Trey Amos there now with, I mean, Robertson who's played,
27:09you know, for the most part, pretty well, a couple of tough penalties aside,
27:13Rasul Douglas has given us a good work. I mean, that's, you know, what can they do with cornerback
27:18play? That's much more consistent. They have better size out there. How does that affect things?
27:22Um, hopefully in a positive way, obviously the 49ers, uh, offense, you know, dried up at the,
27:28in the fourth quarter of that game, three consecutive three and out of the lab Washington
27:31to be able to have a shot to even, uh, to win the game. But now you got to do
27:36it for four quarters,
27:37but hopefully they'll be able to do that now that they have a deeper personnel.
27:41You know, one thing I'm just, I'm just going to take a guess on this. I bet you that Luke
27:48McCaffrey's not a returner and he's inactive when we get to Sunday. I'm just going to guess.
27:54I mean, that's a guess. Cause I thought he was really awful and got incredibly lucky
28:00on that punt return with that ball, not hitting him. Um, it could have easily. Now, who do they
28:05have back? Jeremy McNichols has returned kickoffs. Deami Brown's been, been back on kickoffs,
28:11um, on punts. I guess you could go with Antonio Williams.
28:17Yeah. I mean, I would get like, Hey, he's going to have to be essentially a starting
28:20receiver at this point. And he's a rookie. So I'm always a little hesitant to spread
28:23him that thin, but yeah, that would be, that would be, uh, somebody I imagine they're going
28:28to put Brandon Jefferson either directly on the 53 without Terry or, you know, he'll be
28:34in elevation. And, um, you know, I think he's not going to help in the, in the return game.
28:38Don't get me wrong. But in terms of the, he, I think he can help in the other parts. And
28:41then
28:41that maybe allows some of the other receivers to focus more on special teams if they need
28:45that. All right. Talk to you later. Thanks. Always man. See ya. Ben standing, everybody.