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Speaking at the India Today HealthWealth Summit, Dr Navin Gnanasekaran, head of radiology at Apollo Hospitals, explained why healthy ageing is about more than living longer. He urged people to stay curious, build muscle strength, learn new skills and focus on simple habits rather than expensive longevity treatments.
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00:00How many people who want to live for 100 years?
00:06Wow, very few people.
00:08Who wants to live for 100 years?
00:12200 years they want to live for 200 years.
00:14Okay, they are saying 500 years.
00:18So, in this session, we will know from Dr. Naveen that
00:22How many people who want to live for 100 years, 200 years have a practicality?
00:30What is this possible now?
00:31In 2026, how many people want to live for 200 years?
00:36Look, I have brushed up my Hindi, okay?
00:39The difference between love and hope, okay?
00:43I hope that's the right thing, right?
00:45So, I think at this point of time, 2026, whatever evidence we have,
00:49whatever science we have, we can live till 100.
00:53So, 200, maybe too much?
00:55Let's first try to live those 100 years with full health.
00:58100 years is possible.
01:00If we look at the data, Dr. Naveen,
01:03So, clearly, he tells us that the average age of Indians has increased.
01:08Right.
01:08We are living long, but not necessarily healthy.
01:14Absolutely.
01:14There was a very famous dialogue that I am sure you all know,
01:17that life should not be long enough.
01:20This is his oxymoron.
01:22Right.
01:23Right.
01:24But isn't it true today that while our average age has gone up,
01:28Right.
01:28Our lifespan has gone up, our health span has actually become much worse.
01:34So, that is true.
01:35Say, back in the 1900s, our life expectancy used to be about 35.
01:38Now, we have reached 70 years until COVID, and now we have 70 years.
01:43So, we have a situation where modern medicine or vaccinations or antibiotics,
01:50they are making us live longer.
01:52Which means, maybe in another 10, 20 years, our life expectancy may be even close to 90.
01:58But after the 60s, between 60 and 80, or between 60 and 90, how are those years going to be?
02:06So, are they going to be full of health, full of happiness, completely aware of everything around you,
02:12sharp brain, and strong muscles, movement.
02:16That is not something.
02:17So, what's happening now is that we are mostly, you know, confined to a wheelchair or confined to an ICU
02:25bed,
02:26or we don't have full control over our body.
02:31So, that is the gap between health span and life span.
02:35Life span is just years to life, and health span is adding life to those years.
02:40Yeah, that's a nice one. Health span is actually adding life to those years as well.
02:45A few years ago, when we started listening to longevity,
02:50there was always a buzzword.
02:51But when we started it, this word was very viral from a video.
02:57World leaders, Mr. Putin, whom you all know about,
03:01and Xi Jinping, whom you all know about,
03:03when the world leaders were in a conference,
03:09and the people were talking about.
03:11Someone didn't notice, but their mic was opened.
03:15And there was a conversation in the mic,
03:17that both world leaders were discussing,
03:20who will live more.
03:22One said,
03:24120 years ago,
03:25120 years old.
03:27And the other said,
03:28200 years old,
03:29they didn't go anywhere.
03:31These conversations,
03:33we are doing today's world leaders,
03:36but my question, Dr. Naveen, to you is this,
03:39is,
03:40they have the whole machinery to keep their attention.
03:45Does a common man or woman have this machinery available?
03:51Are there tools that we can reach here?
03:55Or is it just an aspiration that is being built?
03:59Before we talked about longevity and health span.
04:03So,
04:04let them live 150 years,
04:06if they have to live.
04:07I just want to say this,
04:09I want my people,
04:11the common man,
04:12the armed man,
04:13to be able to lift a grandchild at 85,
04:16without breaking a backbone,
04:17or without a slipped disc.
04:19We just need that.
04:20See,
04:21it's like the fountain of youth,
04:22or the elixir of youth.
04:23People have looked at it,
04:25all the Rajas and Maharajas,
04:26and Emperors have searched for it for centuries.
04:29That's what even these leaders are doing.
04:31So, this doesn't mean that,
04:32if you have money,
04:33you can live until 150.
04:35Brian Johnson is facing a lot of problems now.
04:37He may be the biggest billionaire in the world,
04:39and with the latest,
04:40you know, things,
04:40experimental things,
04:41I should quote.
04:43So,
04:43for young man,
04:44for 100 years,
04:45you have to pay more money.
04:47So,
04:48these are simple hacks that you can
04:50include in your day-to-day life,
04:52like good sleep,
04:53great nutrition,
04:54balanced meals,
04:55movement,
04:56resistance training.
04:57That's enough.
04:58The foundation of longevity.
04:59You don't need anything.
04:59How are you doctors?
05:02How are you doctors doing this?
05:03How are you doctors doing this?
05:04How are you doctors doing this?
05:04We are saying that,
05:05only with the good food,
05:06we can live until 100 years old.
05:08We are saying that,
05:09only with the exercise,
05:10you can complete your dreams.
05:13You can take your grandkids
05:15without any issues of back pain,
05:18without any issues of back pain.
05:19I think,
05:20you will give a short list,
05:21that you have to eat this
05:22multi-vitamin,
05:23you have to test this,
05:25you have to go on this diet,
05:27you have to write about
05:27Mediterranean diet.
05:29What are you telling us to our audience?
05:30Dr.
05:31I want to say that,
05:32the best things in life are free.
05:35So,
05:36when it comes to movement,
05:37when it comes to nutrition,
05:39we don't have to do much.
05:40So, we don't have to spend excessively
05:42on experimental things like,
05:44NAD ribs,
05:46or, you know,
05:47photobiomodulation,
05:48or rapamycin,
05:50or any of those things.
05:51All those are unproven.
05:52What is proven,
05:53to increase life span and health span,
05:55is,
05:56learning a new hobby,
05:57or having more friends,
05:59or eating well,
06:00sleeping eight hours a day,
06:02and doing cardio workouts,
06:04like playing racket sports.
06:06Chote moote cheez,
06:07joh hum kar sakte hain.
06:08Usko,
06:09you know,
06:09people always like the,
06:11magical red button,
06:12jishko press karne se,
06:14immediately,
06:14magically,
06:15ek pachas saal,
06:16ad ho jata hain.
06:16Aise kuch nahi hai.
06:17To life to boring hain,
06:19or consistent things to,
06:20boring things ko,
06:21roze hain karna padta hain.
06:23So,
06:23that is how,
06:23we crack longevity.
06:25Very interesting.
06:26You are saying,
06:26racket sport,
06:28has a role to play in longevity.
06:29Explain that.
06:30So,
06:31it's like,
06:33treadmill per chalne vakt,
06:34dimaag so jata hain.
06:36Magar aab badminton kot me,
06:37jab khel te ho,
06:38to dimaag so jata hain,
06:40agar dimaag so jata hain,
06:41to naak par pad jata hain,
06:43you know,
06:43lag jata hain,
06:45badminton cock.
06:45So,
06:46racket sports,
06:47either tennis,
06:47or badminton,
06:48or pickleball,
06:49any of those things.
06:51The body has to be active,
06:52because you've got a lunge left,
06:54right,
06:54go in front,
06:55take a drop,
06:56or come back and do a smash,
06:57but not just the body.
06:59The eyes and the brain have to be active,
07:01tracking the ball every single second.
07:05So,
07:05you can never sleep on the court,
07:09on a badminton,
07:10like you could do on an elliptical,
07:11or on a treadmill.
07:12So,
07:13this is a game for the body,
07:16as well for the mind.
07:17So, there's a lot of neuroplasticity that's going on there,
07:19lot of stimulation of the brain.
07:21So,
07:21it keeps,
07:22it keeps,
07:22it keeps,
07:23it keeps the brain,
07:24and it keeps the body,
07:26too.
07:54It keeps the body,
07:56good diet,
07:57and exercise.
07:59So,
08:00are you saying,
08:00that even today,
08:01when we are sitting in an epitome of medical breakthrough,
08:05life is still about basics.
08:08And,
08:08what is this?
08:09Why is your neuroplasticity improving this?
08:13Explain it a little.
08:14Like,
08:16since our last podcast,
08:17right,
08:17I started to learn saxophone.
08:20So,
08:21it's like,
08:21people have to learn a new language,
08:25or have a new skill.
08:26Since our last podcast,
08:27I started to play pickleball.
08:29Oh, amazing.
08:30That's brilliant.
08:31That's brilliant.
08:31Because you taught me about racket sport.
08:33That's brilliant.
08:34That's brilliant.
08:34So,
08:35something as simple as brushing your teeth with your left hand,
08:38you know,
08:39surprise your brain.
08:40When you surprise your brain,
08:42there are new neural networks,
08:44the parts of the brain that we're all sleeping for,
08:46like,
08:46you know,
08:46the 50 or 60 years of your life,
08:48suddenly start getting very active.
08:50So,
08:50if you want to live long,
08:52then you should have the curiosity of a child.
08:55Like,
08:55every day,
08:57you have to approach with the curiosity.
08:58Like,
08:59what are we going to do?
09:00What are we going to do?
09:01What are we going to do?
09:01What are we going to do?
09:02So,
09:02what can we learn?
09:03What can we learn?
09:03Can we learn from work?
09:06Whatever.
09:09And,
09:09that is,
09:09the logic applies that you have to break your habits
09:12and build new circuits.
09:14Absolutely.
09:15Sometimes,
09:16it's okay to get lost.
09:17Even if you're not using the GPS.
09:19Sometimes,
09:20it's okay to spend time with people who you think are boring.
09:23because it's something new, right?
09:25Because we always have a very close, comfortable group of friends.
09:29So, go and talk to someone at a random time.
09:32Or learn something at a random time.
09:35Or learn something at a random time.
09:36So, I think we need to keep surprising the brain.
09:40The amount of surprise you give to your brain,
09:43it will stay youthful till the very end, I suppose.
09:46But Dr. Naveena, you're saying all the things.
09:48I'm sure our Gen Z audience is sitting here,
09:50a little distracted, a little listening.
10:02It's very hard to implement.
10:04It's very hard to ask people,
10:07people, we are busy, right?
10:10And Indians are super busy.
10:13We are just about getting done with the daily chores of life.
10:18Under that, you need to brush neuroplasticity with the left hand,
10:22take a different route to the office,
10:25and learn a new instrument.
10:26What do you have to do with someone?
10:28How will they do it?
10:32Like, surprising the brain doesn't have to come very difficult, right?
10:35Say, for example, if you want to learn a new language, right?
10:38If you don't want to go to class,
10:40download Duolingo on your phone.
10:41And when you have a mind to scroll to Instagram,
10:44go to the video,
10:45and take a exercise for 10-15 minutes.
10:47So, it's very interesting.
10:49Like, you have a new sort of book,
10:53or a new,
10:55like, I want to learn about anthropology.
10:57It doesn't mean that I want to go to two or three books,
11:00take big books and study.
11:02Listen to the podcast.
11:03So, there are hacks that can be applied,
11:07whether it's Gen Z,
11:09or whether it's people in the 40s,
11:10that can make us learn new things in pocket-sized times.
11:15Like, there's no need for much time.
11:16That's what I say.
11:18Okay, I'll tell you a very peculiar thing about Dr. Naveen.
11:21When we first came to Dr. Naveen,
11:24for our podcast,
11:25Dr. vs. Internet on Health Wealth,
11:27he came,
11:27and in our studio,
11:28our whole cast and crew had been sitting there,
11:31and they told him how old it is.
11:35Like, I was really surprised that he got it right for all men and women, by the way.
11:40So, I want to know,
11:41can you seriously see someone's face today,
11:45how he's standing,
11:46can you tell him about his age,
11:49and do you have any tricks to know that this person has a healthy lifestyle,
11:55will perhaps ace the longevity game?
11:57Okay.
11:58So, anybody who is inflamed,
12:00who is aging more than their biological age,
12:04there are a few markers that you see.
12:06So, a puffy face,
12:08or sometimes there can be a brain fog every time, you know,
12:11and sometimes we open the fridge and we don't realize,
12:13why are they coming,
12:14what are they doing,
12:15what are they doing,
12:16or sometimes it may be that, you know,
12:17you're looking at the particular telescript,
12:20and you don't understand what is happening.
12:22So, we have all these brain-fugure moments.
12:24Dr. Naveen is sitting in a chair,
12:25but they don't forget to press the button.
12:27Yeah.
12:28So, it happens.
12:28So, more of these episodes,
12:31more often means that, you know,
12:33there is something going on.
12:34And the appearance to a certain extent,
12:36like, you know, waist circumference,
12:38or height to weight ratio,
12:39which is more visceral fat,
12:40then you can see the pot belly,
12:42the standard Indian, you know,
12:44thin look with the pot belly.
12:47So, that sort of says that the person is inflamed,
12:50or the person is stressed.
12:51So, anything from puffy eyes to a big midsection,
12:57to the brain fog,
12:58can indicate that you're inflamed.
13:00It can give a fair idea.
13:02That is because I've been experienced in speaking to people,
13:06but when you talk about inflammation,
13:09or which is causing most of the aging these days,
13:12some of it can be seen from the appearance,
13:14but most of it has to come from preventative health checks.
13:16So, we have to know,
13:18like how Shri J.P. Nada was saying this morning,
13:21every one of us, after 30,
13:23needs to make sure that they go out and do a preventative health check.
13:26So, we will know what's happening inside.
13:28But it's happening.
13:29You talked about checks.
13:31Give us a checklist for our audience.
13:33That if you are, and we start from 30,
13:36because most of our audience is much younger there.
13:3930 is moving onwards.
13:41What are some checks that one must do?
13:43Your cardiologist will say one kind of test,
13:45your kidney will say one kind of test,
13:48liver will say one kind of test.
13:49But if I ask you from the point of view,
13:53which 4 or 5 things should be done?
13:56Right.
13:56Whether in the 30s or 40s,
13:58there are some standard things that everybody does in every health check.
14:01Like we have this thyroid function test, liver function test,
14:03we have hearing and eyes and everything.
14:06And then we also have the complete blood count.
14:09So, longevity, from the direction of longevity,
14:11if you look at a 30-year-old or a 40-year-old,
14:13some of the tests that I think that people should be going out and getting,
14:16which are not a part of any other panel that you may take,
14:20is fasting insulin levels.
14:22So, we do postprandial and fasting sugars.
14:25First, we do HbA1c, but we don't do fasting insulin.
14:28And...
14:28What are the differences between the two?
14:30Okay, fasting insulin teaches or tells us that there is a chance
14:35that this person is already insulin resistant,
14:37but they are not yet diabetics.
14:39So, only when they are diabetics do we know that from the HbA1c or the fasting postprandial.
14:46We don't know whether they are in a state of insulin resistance.
14:48So, fasting insulin can pick up people well before even pre-diabetic stage.
14:53So, that is a great way of knowing that, you know, your insulin resistance is high.
14:58And the second part is, I would like to know how much of the crowd is vegetarian,
15:02you know, if you can put up your hands.
15:04Vegetarians in the crowd?
15:05Yes, all the vegetarians need to go check your B12 levels and homocysteine levels.
15:09Because Indians, we have a lot of B12 deficiency, particularly if you are vegetarians.
15:13And it is not that I am eating a sattvic diet and nothing happens to my heart.
15:18Because, you know, vegetarians, you have a very high risk of heart attacks
15:20because of the B12 deficiency and homocysteine levels increase.
15:24So, we need to look at both of those.
15:25I think we need to pause here a little bit for what you have just said.
15:28It is very, very important.
15:31Vegetarians who think that they are eating a sattvic diet and they are eating food at home,
15:37they are found to be, in a lot of tests, highly inflamed and at a higher risk of heart attack.
15:43Absolutely opposite to what perspective is of vegetarians or non-vegetarians.
15:47Right?
15:48Why does that happen?
15:50Look, when B12 deficiency happens, it has two problems.
15:54One is that it slows the brain because brain and the neural tissue needs a lot of B12 to function.
16:00And B12 mostly comes from meaty sources, from non-vegetarian sources, from animal sources.
16:04So, what do we need to do?
16:05We need to know and supplement.
16:08I am not telling the vegetarians to go become non-vegetarians.
16:10I am just saying, if your B12 level is low, go supplement it.
16:13You can take a small pill.
16:15So, that fixes that.
16:16Second thing is, when B12 goes down, serum homocysteine goes up.
16:20Now, this is a kind of amino acid, but then it acts like inflammatory mediator.
16:24So, what homocysteine does is that quick superglue, so it's like that, you know, it's very abrasive
16:31to the inner lining of the blood vessels.
16:33And this causes, you know, abrasion and plaque formation earlier in South Asian vegetarians,
16:40which is why heart attacks can happen a lot more in B12 deficient vegetarians, as much as
16:48that can happen in, say, non-vegetarians with high cholesterol levels.
16:53So, when we talk about longevity, there are a lot of times people wonder,
16:58what factors are those that contribute?
17:01And if I can twist that question a little bit and ask you this.
17:04In our body, there are so many organs.
17:06Is there a ranking on which organ is more important than the other?
17:12Okay.
17:12So…
17:13I can ask you.
17:14Because if I ask a question from a cardiologist or a diabetologist from a cardiologist, then
17:19you will know what answer to me.
17:20The biggest organ is the biggest organ of which we don't talk about, which anyone doesn't
17:27know about it.
17:28That is the muscle.
17:30So the biggest organ of longevity that you have in your body is your muscle, particularly to
17:36those women out there who are, I know, at menopause or after menopause, the muscle drastically
17:41drops.
17:42Every year after 30, we lose about 3 to 8 percentage of muscle.
17:46In Indians, it's close to 10 percent, particularly for women.
17:49So, what do we have to do?
17:51100 percent, you need to go out and exercise, do resistance training, just two hours a week,
17:57not more.
17:58That is good enough.
17:59So, for people who say, I can't go to the gym, just buy a pair of dumbbells and, you know,
18:04a bench and start at home.
18:06So, we can slow down the loss of skeletal muscle.
18:09Why is muscle important?
18:10Why is it the biggest organ?
18:12Muscle produces a lot of…
18:14Muscle is actually the fountain of youth.
18:15So, it produces a lot of substances…
18:17Muscle is the fountain of youth?
18:18It is.
18:19Okay then.
18:19So, it produces a lot of nice substances that keep inflammation at bay, that keep you looking
18:26youthful.
18:27It also produces substances that are good for the brain and for stopping the shrinkage of
18:32the brain as we age.
18:33It soaks up all the sugar in the body, particularly after a carb-heavy meal like most Indians we
18:39take, right?
18:40So, it's like when…
18:41If you have good muscle, the post-breakfast or post-lunch spike of sugar is always going
18:48to be low.
18:48So, for all of these things, one organ that is not spoken about, one organ which I would
18:54say is the organ of longevity is the muscle.
18:57Yeah.
18:58You are saying that, but then certain images come to mind.
19:02We have seen a lot of videos where very muscular men, gymming their way to the fountain of youth,
19:11have been found to be dead.
19:13Right.
19:14We understand there are complicated reasons behind that, but gymming and muscle game has
19:20a very bad rep in our society.
19:22Right.
19:22How do you counter that?
19:24So, I just want to say what I want to say, that people understand that fitness is six-pack
19:33abs.
19:34I want to say this.
19:35So, I'm not saying that body building, I'm saying muscle building is different from stopping
19:42muscle loss.
19:43So, rather than…
19:44So, when you look at the people who have 40-year-olds who go into the gym and who have
19:49heart attacks,
19:49the main problem is that you tend to push the body before the body has had time to recover.
19:57So, most of them would have gone to the gym the very next day after three to four hours
20:01of sleep, when the cortisol is pretty high, when they have had energy drinks, when the
20:05previous night they might have been out clubbing.
20:07So, all I'm saying is listen to your body, I think another speaker also spoke about that.
20:11So, we have to ask ourselves, are you ready for a workout?
20:16Are you ready for a cardio session?
20:17So, when it says, no, today I want to sleep, let it sleep.
20:21But, how do you know the difference of your body just being lazy?
20:26Alright.
20:27And your body just trying to sort of avoid a workout to say, we will do it tomorrow, like
20:32in many cases.
20:34And when do you know that, listen, I think I should be careful.
20:37What is the difference?
20:39Right.
20:39So, if you want objective measures, then we talk about heart rate variability.
20:43So, any smart device that you have that tracks heart rate variability, when it is low, then
20:49you get to know that there is a lot more stress that is affecting your system.
20:53That is when you need to rest and recover.
20:56So, a very simple way, and we have, a lot of us wear smart watches or smart rings, you get
21:02to know that.
21:03But the best judge is still you.
21:05I think, you know, you will know the difference whether you are lazy or whether it is something
21:09else.
21:10Yes.
21:10Never, never go out and do a strenuous workout in a gym when you have had very less sleep,
21:16immediately after a flight or immediately after a poor night's sleep or immediately after
21:21a night of substance abuse.
21:22Never do that.
21:23That is what I would say.
21:24Right.
21:24Before I open the floor for some audience questions, I have a quick, you know, questionnaire
21:30for you.
21:31And these are just some things that you can either take or trash.
21:35Okay.
21:35So, I am going to throw a couple of things at you and you can tell me whether to take
21:38it or to trash it.
21:39All right.
21:40Let's start with exercising three times a week.
21:43Is that enough?
21:43What kind of exercise?
21:45Good question.
21:47Good question.
21:48Okay.
21:49Let's say exercise that pumps your heart rate.
21:52Two times a week is good enough.
21:54That's it.
21:55You don't need more.
21:55Good enough.
21:56So, take it, but take it only twice a week.
21:58No.
21:59I am not saying twice a week.
21:59Twice is good enough.
22:00Anything more is good enough as well.
22:02I mean, three?
22:03Great.
22:04But two is all it takes to…
22:05Two is minimum?
22:06Yes.
22:07Okay.
22:07What about eight hours of sleep every night?
22:11I don't know a single person who is getting eight hours of sleep.
22:15Are you getting eight hours of sleep?
22:17Seven and a half, but I am forty-five.
22:19As we age, we get slightly lesser.
22:22Ah.
22:23That is true.
22:23So, the night sleep, eight is an average, but as we grow older, it may slowly, you know,
22:29drop a bit, but then it's still okay.
22:31Take it.
22:32Okay.
22:32Take it.
22:33Okay.
22:33Two liters of water every day?
22:36Take it.
22:37Okay.
22:39Daily supplements.
22:40This is tricky.
22:42Don't take it unless your doctor advises it.
22:44Is there a longevity supplement?
22:47What is this NAD Plus that all the celebrities are injecting themselves with?
22:51So, the only couple of supplements that have a whole body of evidence behind it, that
22:56most Indian people can take safely if they are deficient, is B12, vitamin D and iron.
23:02People look at me as a very boring longevity doctor.
23:05Because I don't talk about NAD drips.
23:07I don't talk about IV Glutathione.
23:09I don't talk about any of these crazy things.
23:12Because the ones with the highest body of evidence are these.
23:17Right.
23:17Let's move to the next one.
23:19Today, it's very famous.
23:21Sugar is the new poison.
23:23Zero added sugar.
23:27Trash it because the body needs sugar.
23:30But sugar is the new poison.
23:32That is true.
23:32Try to cut down on your sugar as much as possible.
23:35You don't have to go zero sugar.
23:36It's not possible.
23:37Okay.
23:38This has been controversial throughout the day.
23:41A lot of doctors have given a lot of answers.
23:43But let's see what you have to say as a longevity expert.
23:46I'm nervous.
23:47A drink or two on weekdays, it's fine.
23:50Now, remember, it's Diwali season.
23:53Remember, everybody wants to go out and have a good time.
23:55You will lose patience if you say anything wrong.
23:58You know, I'm in Delhi.
24:00But I can say it too.
24:02Every week, two drinks is not okay.
24:03Okay.
24:04So, if you have Diwali once a year or maybe once a few months, you know, couple of drinks,
24:09you know, once every few months is the minimum that I can say.
24:16Like, you know, but you should not be taking every week.
24:18As a doctor, what I can say is, you know, no amount of alcohol has been found to be safe.
24:23Yes.
24:23But you also have to live your life.
24:25Okay?
24:25Which means, like, try to keep it as little as possible.
24:28Reasonably possible.
24:29Okay.
24:30That's what I would say.
24:30To those in Delhi who say, the water is so bad.
24:33I drink cigarettes.
24:35You know, I'm anyways, you know, smoking cigarettes by just breathing in this air.
24:41I had a friend of mine who had come along with me.
24:43So, she was looking at the Delhi atmosphere and saying, how cool.
24:46It's so misty and nice.
24:47You know, probably she thought she's in Ooty or Kodak.
24:49And I told her, no, this is the pollution over here.
24:51Right?
24:52So, it's not safe.
24:53So, already the AQI is reducing six to seven years out of all the Delhi Aids life.
24:58Eight years.
24:58Yes.
24:58You should come to, move to Chennai, you know, move the studios to Chennai.
25:03But on top of that, if you're going to have smoking or hookah or any other kind of thing
25:08that's going to stress your respiratory organs, it's going to still fall further from the eight years.
25:16You should not do it.
25:17So, a big trash on that one.
25:19Trash, trash.
25:19We are out of time, but I only have, I can take one quick question over there.
25:23Yes.
25:23Can we quickly have the mics here, please?
25:26The gentleman in the grey blazer.
25:32So, you said that vitamin B12 deficiency, what can we include in the diets for that thing?
25:39Sorry, you're not audible.
25:40B12 deficiency, those who have, especially vegetarians, and they don't want to supplement.
25:44What dietary is it?
25:48Vegetarians, if you're B12 deficient, eventually you'll have to go supplement.
25:53There are no diets that can actually add B12 in vegetarians reasonably well.
26:00So, I would still, if you're my patient, I would say, please, you go and eat B12 supplements.
26:04Okay.
26:05But, check first.
26:06Next question, please.
26:07My next question, one more.
26:09Yeah.
26:09Like, we do a lot of travelling.
26:10So, like you said that for, like, workout and everything.
26:13So, the next morning we get up and we get confused.
26:16Should we workout or should we take rest?
26:19That's a good question.
26:19You're very tired of traveling, right?
26:22I mean, traveling three, four hours driving and I was just thinking, sometimes food time
26:25different.
26:26And next morning, do you have a question, do you have to sleep or do you have to exercise?
26:30First, you have to sleep.
26:31Think.
26:32And then, you've at least find it on, in yourself to do on weekends.
26:36That's still fine.
26:38I'm saying that, you know, sleep is very important.
26:41So, I would definitely put sleep before exercise.
26:44That's a big one.
26:45Yeah, very quickly.
26:46Yeah.
26:46As long as everyone has told us, that diet, lifestyle, activity, sleep are important for everyone.
26:53And then, which thing is that everyone keeps following and why do they not follow them?
26:56Which thing is that?
26:58I mean, I mean, diet, a balanced diet, physical activity, and sleep, like you said, is very important.
27:05And everyone has told us that everyone is very important.
27:08Then, after the world, or Indians, which thing is that they keep following and why do they not follow them
27:13all?
27:14Why do they not know?
27:14Why do they not know them all?
27:15Why do they not know them all?
27:17Why do they not know them all?
27:17Why do they not know them all?
27:18Yes.
27:18Okay.
27:19So, I can answer this for you.
27:21See, we are not making longevity, we are not making these things cool.
27:27Like in your office, if someone follows a GM diet or keto diet, they become a superstar.
27:34And everybody follows that.
27:35But I am saying that, you know, somebody who works out twice a week or somebody who is very healthy,
27:40somebody who doesn't drink, you know, he is always snobbed at the office party.
27:43Because they do not drink.
27:45So, what do we have to do, sir?
27:48I want to say this.
27:49See, at one point of time, insurance was not cool, health insurance.
27:53At one point of time, SIPs in mutual funds was not cool.
27:56Now, the whole India is doing it.
27:59I need a time in India where being physically well, doing all these things, chote mode cheese, has to become
28:06like a cool thing.
28:07So, everybody wants to follow.
28:08Gen Z, you know, and we need to set a trend.
28:10That's what I feel.
28:11Yes.
28:12I think that's a brilliant question and answered even, you know, better there.
28:15That, until we change our habits.
28:18If you are going to someone's home, where you are going to sleep, you might take fruit.
28:21If you want to do dinner with someone, you might have lunch.
28:26You don't have to meet people socially and have drinks.
28:29You can enjoy a walk with them as well.
28:31And I think his habit formations are really what, you know, make a difference.
28:35And I think that's where…
28:36Like we are talking about today's Gen Z, looks like they don't hang out in bars anymore.
28:40Looks like they go and have coffee hangouts.
28:43And then drinking coffee and having a very social evening is really cool amongst them.
28:47And they look upon the alcohol drinkers as boomers.
28:50Yes.
28:51Right, so I am happy that something cool, something healthy has also become cool.
28:55I am very glad you said that because often in parties, I am the one who is constantly
29:00being called uncool for having too much health knowledge over there.
29:03But so glad you could take all those questions.
29:05Ladies and gentlemen, Dr. Naveen there.
29:07Thank you very much.
29:08Thank you for being such a sport and taking all those questions.
29:11Such a pleasure.
29:11Before you go, I would request you to write a health prescription for India.
29:16You can write in English.
29:17You can write in English.
29:18You can write in English.
29:19My written Hindi is not as good.
29:21Yes.
29:22And the spelling mistake will come.
29:27Yes.
29:28I think I'm just wondering if I can take part in my corner of a film.
29:35Yes, sir.
29:36Let's go.