00:09in the avengers doomsday teaser thor kneels in a forest and asks his dead father for one thing
00:15strength to fight one more time marvel showed us the prayer it never showed us the answer
00:22and whatever answered him could decide whether dr doom the biggest villain the mcu has ever faced
00:29can be stopped at all so what actually happens when thor calls on odin here's what you're getting
00:35in this video we'll look at what thor asked for what the leaks say answered him and whether that
00:41power could actually put doom on the back foot stay to the end because the last piece changes how one
00:47of the most emotional scenes in the mcu reads let's start with the confirmed part because it's the most
00:53important the teaser is official chris hemsworth's thor walks through the woods and prays to odin
01:00he asks for strength to defeat one more enemy so he can go home to his adopted daughter love
01:06and teach her in his words not battle but stillness that's not a rumor that's marvel's own footage
01:14now think about what that prayer tells us thor isn't just talking to a dead father he's addressing
01:21him as if he can still hear and in the mcu he might be right because the mcu has already
01:28shown
01:28us where dead asgardians go at the end of thor love and thunder jane foster dies after her final
01:36battle as the mighty thor in the post-credits scene she arrives at the gates of valhalla and heimdall
01:42killed by thanos back in infinity war is there to greet her so the afterlife is real it's asgardian and
01:50the
01:50dead are not gone that matches the original norse mythology valhalla means hall of the slain it's
01:58odin's hall and according to the tradition the valkyries choose the warriors who die in battle
02:04and are worthy of a place there those warriors the einherjar aren't resting forever they're waiting for
02:11ragnarok the final battle when odin needs every fighter he can get so in myth valhalla isn't a
02:19graveyard it's an army in waiting and in doomsday thor is about to need one which brings us to the
02:26odin force in marvel comics the odin force is the near infinite power of the king of asgard
02:33it was passed from bor to odin and from odin to thor where it became known as the thor force
02:39when odin's power runs low he enters the odin sleep to recharge odin used it to hold his own against
02:46heavyweights like galactus and thanos and the comics are clear on one more thing even thor who has
02:53tapped into it was never able to fully control it now here's the catch in the movies the word odin
03:00force has barely been spoken on screen the mcu treats it as the unnamed power of the all-father
03:07tied to his life force and his role as king the odin sleep exists in the films the name mostly
03:14doesn't
03:14so when we say thor calls on the odin force in doomsday we need to be honest we're connecting
03:20dots between a confirmed prayer comic book lore and a handful of leaks let's look at those dots
03:26in february 2026 the scooper my time to shine hello posted that in doomsday thor prays to odin and
03:35odin answers by sending him an army the follow-up claim was that the army comes from valhalla so get
03:42ready to see old characters back a second scooper majestic underscore ucm added detail in this
03:50version thor is surrounded by steve rogers korg and valkyrie when he prays an army from valhalla
03:57arrives with lady thor the warriors three heimdall and the original loki and odin's voice says to lead
04:04them into battle later the first scooper claimed natalie portman and idris elba would appear in the
04:11final fight again none of this is confirmed by marvel but two separate scoopers describing the
04:17same sequence built on a scene marvel already put in a teaser is why people are taking it seriously
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04:30before the movie lands now let's talk about the actual question what happens when thor calls there are
04:38really two possibilities and they might both be true possibility one is the army this is what the
04:44leaks describe odin hears thor valhalla opens and the asgardian dead pour onto the battlefield against
04:51dr doom who marvel has confirmed is played by robert downey jr doomsday is set 14 months after
04:58thunderbolts and the cast is huge the avengers the new avengers the fantastic four and the x-men are all
05:07reportedly facing doom an asgardian army would turn that fight into the biggest battle since endgame's
05:13portals scene possibility two is the power-up official doomsday concept art shows thor with stormbreaker
05:20while mjolnir has reportedly been passed to steve rogers and the lightning in that art is orange not the
05:27usual blue white one comicbook.com writer reads that orange as the odin force since orange is odin's
05:34color in the comics and the mcu that's a fan reading of concept art not a confirmation but
05:41combine it with the prayer and the idea is simple thor asks his father for strength and the all father's
05:47power flows through him possibly just for one battle so the best case is both an army behind him and
05:55the
05:55odin force inside him but there's a cost in the comics even thor never fully mastered it a power that
06:02big
06:03borrowed for one fight could be a one-way gamble and the leaks say doom's side is not weak if
06:09the
06:10heroes need a valhalla army the situation is already desperate so let's answer the question directly
06:16if thor really gets the odin force how does he beat dr doom start with the scale of the power
06:22in the comics odin used the odin force to hold his own against heavyweights like galactus and thanos
06:28put that behind thor's lightning and he's no longer fighting at the level of a normal avenger
06:34doom by comparison built his power from armor sorcery and borrowed energy the odin force is raw
06:42cosmic and mystical the kind of power that is hard to jam with technology next the fight stops being
06:49one-on-one if the valhalla army arrives doom can't just focus on thor he has to split his attention
06:56between
06:56a god channeling his father's power and an asgardian host rushing his line doom wins by control and
07:03preparation chaos is what he doesn't like and then there's doom himself in the comics his greatest
07:10enemy is often his own pride in secret wars a god level doom was beaten only because he doubted himself
07:17for a moment a thor who refuses to back down could be the hero who pushes him there that's the
07:23case for
07:24it now the honest part because easily is the wrong word doom has been here before in the comics he
07:32reverse engineered the destroyer an asgardian weapon and worked out that the odin force was powering it
07:38and in one future story a doom fought old king thor who carried the full odin force and old man
07:45phoenix
07:45to a standstill comicbook.com's own read on the concept art is that even a thor with this power-up
07:52probably isn't enough on his own that's what makes the idea dangerous if the mcu borrows anything from
08:00those stories the odin force isn't just thor's weapon it could be the very thing doom wants a power
08:07thor borrows for one battle could be a power doom tries to take so no the odin force probably won't
08:14hand
08:14thor an easy win what it can do is make him the one hero who can stand in front of
08:20doom hold the line
08:21and buy everyone else the opening they need now here's where the tony stark theory comes in and i
08:28want to be careful because this is the speculative part at tony's funeral in endgame thor looked calmer
08:34than everyone around him the theory says that's because tony died fighting sacrificing himself in
08:40the final battle after the snap and in norse tradition dying in battle is exactly how you earn a place
08:47in
08:47valhalla jane foster is the precedent because she was a human who died fighting beside thor and ended
08:54up there so if thor opens valhalla the theory asks is there an empty seat in that hall with tony's
09:00name
09:00on it let's pressure test that first no leak i found names tony in the army the rumored lineup is
09:07jane heimdall
09:09the warriors 3 and loki second jane wasn't just a human she died wielding mjolnir as the mighty thor
09:16so the precedent has limits and third robert downey jr is already in the movie as doom joe russo told
09:24empire there are zero similarities between doom and tony stark though reports say he was talking about
09:30the performance and anthony russo has said they can't explain downey's return because it's part of
09:36the story so is tony in valhalla based on everything public that's a theory not a leak but it's a
09:44theory
09:44with real mythological and mcu logic behind it and that's why it keeps coming back and this is where
09:51fans split some say a reunion between thor and tony would be the most emotional moment in avengers
09:57history others say bringing back a hero who died to save the universe would cheapen the sacrifice
10:03which side are you on tell me in the comments so what does this mean for doomsday here's the honest
10:10summary confirmed thor prays to odin for strength confirmed valhalla exists in the mcu with jane and
10:19heimdall there reported odin answers with an army from valhalla speculated thor channels the odin force
10:26which could make him a real match for doom but not an easy win and tony could be part of
10:31the return
10:32if even half of that is true doomsday won't just be a hero versus villain fight it'll be a battle
10:38where the dead come back to stand beside the living doomsday arrives december 18th until then
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