00:00Deshaun Watson is back at practice today.
00:03So he's cleared parts of the concussion protocol.
00:06I don't know if he's cleared the whole thing.
00:08Don't know if he's going to play on Sunday or not.
00:11But Deshaun Watson is back at practice.
00:14So, you know, we had this conversation a few times that if he was,
00:19I thought today would be the last day that he would probably find some space
00:22to be able to get back out on the field.
00:24Thoughts?
00:25Yeah, we'll see where it goes from there.
00:27He's got a helmet on.
00:28He's throwing in practice, according to video from Ashley Bastock on Twitter.
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00:36It's, we will see where it goes.
00:38You're right.
00:38Todd Munkin, 120.
00:40I mean, if he's practicing today and he's past parts of the concussion protocol,
00:44right, you start him.
00:45You got five.
00:46He's going.
00:46Yeah, I would think, especially after what Todd said the other day.
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01:51You heard the news right before we started our conversation with Tim.
01:54Look who's back.
01:56Deshaun Watson.
01:57Yep.
01:59Watson's back.
02:00Tell a friend.
02:02Deshaun Watson is back.
02:04What does this mean?
02:05He's still in protocol, though.
02:07So you would have to assume that if he can go through a walkthrough tomorrow,
02:10he'll be able to play.
02:11It's a five-step to return to a participation process in the NFL.
02:17If he is, and we've seen video of him now throwing the football in Berea.
02:20You saw that?
02:21That is correct.
02:21There's video of him throwing a football in Berea with a helmet on.
02:24So that means he is in Phase 4.
02:27That is club-based, non-contact training drills.
02:32Full non-contact football participation, throwing, running, position drills.
02:38Neuro-cognitive and balanced baseline testing is completed and passed here.
02:44So he's not in contact today, but he can do everything else.
02:49And that keeps you in the protocol but puts you back on the practice field.
02:52And then Phase 5 is the full football activity clearance and players cleared
02:57for full contact or practice or gameplay by the team physician.
03:02So a lot of this starts off as independent, and then it ends off here.
03:06But then there's the independent final clearance, too, though.
03:10I should say that, too.
03:11Even after passing all five phases and receiving approval from the team physician,
03:15the player must still be examined and separately cleared by an independent
03:20neurological consultant.
03:22So he basically has two more steps to go here.
03:24If he's going to play on Sunday, full football contact activity clearance by the team,
03:31and then by the next step is the independent doctor.
03:36I feel like my only response to all of the information you just gave me
03:40is to do Rick Moranis and Spaceballs and look directly at the camera and go,
03:44Everybody got that?
03:47Hey, you.
03:48Kind of, sort of.
03:49That's kind of what it feels like.
03:51Everybody got that?
03:52Sorry, my screen just got jammed there.
03:54Oh, strawberry.
03:55Nobody ever gives me the raspberry.
04:00Here's the million-dollar question.
04:02They've tailored the game plan.
04:04It seems to this point, Shador Sanders has been out there for the Wednesday game plan
04:09to install game plans for this week for Wednesday, Thursday.
04:12Right.
04:12If Deshaun Watson gets cleared by Sunday, does he start?
04:18It's not my answer.
04:20It's Todd Munkin's answer when he said he was surprised that somebody even asked him.
04:24Was it on Tuesday or Wednesday?
04:27Was it Monday or Wednesday?
04:28I can't even remember now.
04:29Wednesday.
04:30When he said, someone asked him the question,
04:32Is Deshaun your starter?
04:34And when he comes back, and he's like,
04:36Are you really asking me that question?
04:38I didn't expect that one.
04:40So, if that was your answer there, then there's no doubt.
04:44If Deshaun Watson is capable of playing and is cleared by not only the Browns doctors,
04:49but the independent doctor, he is back on the field against the Saints on Sunday.
04:53I think you're right as well.
04:54I think if he is cleared by Sunday, he's the starter.
04:58I don't see it being a situation where if he's cleared, that means Shadour starts and he's the backup or
05:04anything along those lines.
05:06It feels very A-B.
05:08You know, if Deshaun Watson is cleared, he is the starter against the New Orleans Saints and we move forward.
05:15If Deshaun Watson is not cleared, it is Shadour Sanders.
05:19And we just assume that Deshaun can operate the same way they would with the game plan they put together.
05:24He could be active and they could still start Shadour.
05:27They could do those things, but I can't see Todd Munkin doing that.
05:30Can you see Todd Munkin doing that?
05:31No, not based on what he said earlier in the week.
05:33This isn't me talking.
05:34This is Todd.
05:35This is what Todd said earlier in the week.
05:36Yeah, we're trying to put ourselves in his shoes in that regard to figure out what's going on.
05:40I just can't see that being the case,
05:43especially because they have been so steadfast that Deshaun Watson is the starter.
05:48It's back to your whole observation of why Shadour never touched the field in the fourth quarter
05:53because they wanted to figure out the Deshaun Watson thing.
05:55It's even back to that argument.
05:56If you're not going to give Shadour that in a blowout,
05:58what makes you think that you're going to give him this opportunity over Deshaun Watson?
06:03To be super honest, I thought they didn't put him back in the game because they don't trust him.
06:08I'm just, why would you not?
06:10Yeah.
06:10Steelers did it.
06:11Yeah.
06:12Why wouldn't you put your backup quarterback in a game that you know is over?
06:16And I know Jeff honestly said, well, you got to give him the rep.
06:18No, you don't.
06:18He had reps all game.
06:20He had reps all game.
06:22Not Shadour, but Deshaun.
06:24Well, yeah.
06:24And I get that.
06:25And it was inept to put it nicely to describe that offense that we were watching.
06:31I am with you.
06:32There has to be some reason they didn't do it.
06:35This offense hasn't clicked all year outside of occasionally in a fourth quarter and then a second quarter.
06:40Oh, good enough for the fourth quarter.
06:42Yeah.
06:43It hasn't clicked the whole year.
06:44So maybe that's, I, I have no idea.
06:46I'm not Todd Munkin.
06:47I've never gotten an answer from Todd Munkin.
06:49I'm not trying to assume anything that comes from it.
06:51It put words in his mouth.
06:53Little bit of news here.
06:54Andy, Miles Garrett working his way back from knee surgery is on track to be activated ahead of Sunday versus
07:01the commanders per Mike Garofalo and Ian Rappaport.
07:04So sounding like Miles Garrett is going to be activated to play on Sunday for the Rams.
07:10Wow.
07:12Think he'll be hungry?
07:14Probably.
07:15I would think so.
07:16Oh, yeah.
07:16I mean, there's, there's numbers to be had from time missed.
07:19He might be coming out just full-blown screaming, Banshee, buckle in if I'm the commanders.
07:25It'll be interesting to see how that plays out.
07:28Yeah.
07:29Very, very interesting.
07:30Okay.
07:31Let's come back.
07:32We're going to do some headlines and two keys and a lock.
07:34Todd Munkin's press conference, which really got interesting now that Sean Watson's back on the field.
07:39He's still in protocol, though.
07:41Got to remember that.
07:41He is back on the field, but still in concussion protocol.
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