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00:00Can I have the chip to your camera, please?
00:02No, thank you.
00:05Okay, look.
00:06We were picking up our kids.
00:08I did not ask to be filmed,
00:10and you don't have my permission to use my car.
00:11Ma'am, no disrespect to you, but when you're in public
00:14there's no reasonable expectation of privacy.
00:16Actually, there is a little bit.
00:17No, there isn't. Not when you're in public.
00:18Absolutely, there is. You have my license plate number.
00:20I did not agree for this.
00:23I'm not filming your kid, ma'am.
00:25I didn't even know you had any kids, okay?
00:27You filmed us coming in. I saw you do it.
00:30You filmed us coming in.
00:30We're filming anything we can see in public, ma'am.
00:33What is it for? Huh? We're doing a story about the hotel.
00:35That's all I can tell you.
00:37That's all I can tell you, ma'am. Who are you working for?
00:39That's all I can tell you, ma'am. Who are you working for?
00:41I'm not going to say anything else.
00:43So then, who are you guys working for?
00:46Come on, it's the safety of my family.
00:48I'm not interested in your...
00:49If it is going to be degrading or anything,
00:51and my license plate is in there, I didn't do anything wrong.
00:53You didn't do anything wrong, ma'am.
00:55So then why are you filming my car?
00:57Ma'am, filming your car, I mean, how is that going to harm you?
01:00I mean, your license plate's in public.
01:02There's cameras all over the city that films...
01:04Well, that I understand, but if it's in something else...
01:05If it's in something, and something happens to me in my family because of that,
01:09I'm not okay with that.
01:10Nothing's going to happen. We're not going to do anything.
01:12We're doing a story about the hotel, ma'am.
01:13We're filming the car. We're getting B-roll.
01:15Okay.
01:16And the only reason I'm still filming you now is because you approached us kind of aggressively.
01:19So if something happens...
01:20How do you think it makes me feel when I haven't done anything?
01:22You haven't done anything?
01:23And I have two people here filming me for no...
01:25Right now, we're just filming for our safety because you can't...
01:27I'm not going any further than this, but I'm a little...
01:30I know, but he literally...
01:32We were pulling out.
01:33He went like this, went straight to my car, and followed it.
01:35I stopped and asked what he was doing.
01:37But I looked in my rearview mirror, and he continued to follow my vehicle.
01:40I didn't follow your vehicle, ma'am.
01:41Yes, you did!
01:42I've been here on the sidewalk the whole time.
01:44You followed my vehicle!
01:45No, I didn't.
01:46The camera followed my vehicle is what I'm trying to say.
01:48You filmed my car without my permission.
01:51Well, I'm...
01:52You know what?
01:53You guys are saying that to try to CYA,
01:55but right now, I'm worried about the safety of my own family here.
01:59I understand.
02:00The best thing for you to do, hon,
02:01get in your vehicle, turn around, and just go weak.
02:04You might not even be under here.
02:05It's just all you're concerned.
02:08Who do you guys work for?
02:09No.
02:09You can't discuss that at this time.
02:10Why can't you discuss that at this time?
02:12It's under investigation.
02:14Okay, so you guys work for the police?
02:15No.
02:16No.
02:16You work for the state?
02:17We're not law enforcement.
02:18You work for news?
02:19We work for a service company that finds certain things that we gotta go and investigate on.
02:23We're independent media.
02:24Yeah.
02:25So you're private investigators?
02:27No.
02:27No?
02:28So then what do you guys...
02:28Do you guys have a card or anything?
02:30No.
02:31Okay.
02:32Ma'am, we need no harm to you.
02:35Well, I'm sorry.
02:36It's very disconcerting.
02:37When my vehicle's being filled, my family is...
02:39That's what we are.
02:40I can make one of those too.
02:41Without proper production.
02:42Okay.
02:42Who makes media passes?
02:44Who?
02:44Anybody can make media passes.
02:46What gives you the wrong...
02:46What gives us the right?
02:47Do you know what gives us the right to do this?
02:49Nothing.
02:49The First Amendment.
02:50Read it.
03:04I don't think I've ever had anyone, like, cry during an audit.
03:08Travel video, man.
03:10Travel video?
03:10Travel video.
03:11For what?
03:12For what?
03:13I just...
03:14Depends on...
03:15Depends on what happens while I'm here.
03:17Just, uh...
03:18Could go...
03:18Could go a multitude of different places.
03:20Okay.
03:23So...
03:24They tell you to leave, you don't leave, what's the deal with that?
03:27What do you mean?
03:28Well, from what I understand, they tell you to leave and you refuse to do so.
03:31Well, they're not telling me to leave, they're asking me to leave.
03:34You want them to leave?
03:35Yes.
03:36Okay, now they're telling you to leave.
03:37Okay.
03:38So that means you have to leave.
03:39Is that a lawful order?
03:40What's the primary committed?
03:41That'd be trespassing.
03:43Trespassing?
03:43Yes.
03:43On what?
03:44Is this public property?
03:45It is, but here's the deal.
03:48What's your deal?
03:48It's just like any other business.
03:49No, it's not.
03:50No, this is owned by the government.
03:52It's owned by the federal government.
03:53Exactly.
03:53But it operates just like any other business.
03:56Trust me, so if...
03:57So, look, I'll make it nice and simple for you.
04:00If you're going to threaten me with arrest, I'll leave and I'll take the formal trespass
04:02right now.
04:03If not, then I'm just going to stay here.
04:04Okay.
04:05If he refuses to leave, do you want to press charges?
04:07Yeah.
04:08Okay.
04:09If you don't leave, then you're going to go to jail for trespassing.
04:10Okay.
04:11So, do you need my ID?
04:13Do you want to get the formal trespass going?
04:14Yes, please.
04:15All right.
04:16I actually don't have it on me.
04:17I can give you my name and everything like that.
04:19Yeah.
04:21And what was your name and badge number, just so I know?
04:23I am Griffey Brown.
04:23My badge number is 571.
04:25571?
04:28Yes, 571.
04:30And what county do you work for?
04:32Lexington.
04:33Lexington?
04:33Yes.
04:34Cool.
04:34What's your name, sir?
04:35You want to go out here?
04:36You want to talk out here?
04:37You want to talk out there now?
04:38Yeah.
04:39Okay.
04:39Let's just stay right here.
04:40What's your name, sir?
04:41Am I free to go or am I detained?
04:44Well, you're detained at the moment.
04:46Oh, I am.
04:46Until I get your name.
04:47For what?
04:48And then you'll be free to go on to where it is if you can't go to.
04:51Okay.
04:51All right.
04:52I'll give you my name.
04:56What's your name, sir?
04:57John Medallia.
04:58John?
04:59Yep.
04:59You spell that J-O-H-N?
05:00Yep.
05:01Your last name?
05:02M-E-D-A-G-L-I-A.
05:15Can I get a supervisor here as well?
05:17Sure.
05:18Thanks.
05:18Appreciate that.
05:20First name, John.
05:21Common spelling.
05:21Last name, Madaglia.
05:23Spelled Mike.
05:24Echo.
05:24Delta.
05:25Alpha.
05:25Golf.
05:26Lima.
05:27India.
05:27Alpha.
05:31So now, just to reiterate, you said I was under duress of arrest.
05:34They're placing you on trespass notice, so at this point, if you refuse to leave, then
05:38you're violating the trespass law.
05:40Okay.
05:41Which is a misdemeanor charge.
05:42Mm-hmm.
05:42Okay.
05:43It's a jailable offense.
05:43It carries up to a 30-day stay in our county.
05:46From private property, right?
05:47Okay.
05:48From private property that is owned by the federal government.
05:50Yes.
05:50But the post office operates just like any other business in town.
05:53Okay.
05:53They have customers that show up.
05:55Did you call a supervisor or no?
05:57Yes.
05:58551-571.
06:00And I did have one.
06:04Are you free to head my way?
06:06I'm fine.
06:07He's feeling uncomfortable.
06:08No.
06:09Okay.
06:12I need a supervisor for one available.
06:14Are you the supervisor or the postmaster?
06:20paid my thing.
06:2210-4 of it.
06:23Okay.
06:23The question is, who are you?
06:24Who are you?
06:26Oh, supervisor or postmaster?
06:28Guys.
06:29Why don't you leave them alone?
06:30They're just doing their jobs.
06:31Who are you?
06:32Gary.
06:32Why don't you just leave me alone?
06:35a citizen of the u.s so did you hear what i did you hear what i asked or no
06:45okay so that answer was way too big the box is about this big i just asked you supervisor or
06:49postmaster okay perfect sounds good no problem man how long you been doing this how long you been
07:03doing this four and a half years four and a half years wow never been called out to a post
07:07office
07:08before no i haven't no this would be a learning experience though no
07:30i'm sorry you got some eyes behind those glasses
07:33i'm sorry
07:47i did have a question for you
07:54so here's the deal even if you didn't want him to leave okay um we're in a public facility
08:00it's just he's got every right in the world to whip out a phone and start recording
08:04if he wants to so so now now he's backtracking now what this is called is backtracking so let's go
08:08ahead let's hear this okay so it's got nothing to do with it oh no it is it is yeah
08:12it is actually
08:13my my deal is that you've got nothing to do with you whipping out a phone or recording anyone so
08:16what is it it has everything to do with whether or not they want you to leave right so why
08:20do they
08:20why do i need to leave because they don't want you hearing no that that's not a crime is that
08:23a
08:23misdemeanor or a felony it's a misdemeanor no it's not yes them not wanting me here is not a misdemeanor
08:29no it's not just okay so but the deal is he's exercising person member advice by videoing
08:36and photographing in public he can do that i understand it makes everyone uncomfortable
08:41okay but that's that in itself is not a crime now him refusing to leave upon the employee's request
08:47here is okay that's why i asked you if you wanted to prosecute not not in a public problem but
08:52the
08:53thing is he's like i said he's requested to speak speak to a supervisor he's on his way from around
08:58gaston so he's gonna be about 20 25 minutes to get here so my question is okay why he can't
09:04film
09:04outside he's gonna did what he did on the inside why he can't go outside i don't know i was
09:09outside
09:09first excuse me you're excused first of all and second of all i said i was outside first
09:18i'm sorry that's so little personal man i'm work i'm in the middle of work
09:23i'm in the middle of working so i'll talk to anybody with a camera please get it out and take
09:27his picture and take your glasses off and take a picture yeah exactly well that's right well that's
09:36good okay i didn't think of that that's why i got glasses on probably i welcome you to take a
09:42picture
09:42because that's against your policy and i'll simply write a complaint that's fine that's against your
09:47policy not mine i don't abide by policy i abide by law and you're acting as a feeling feelings
09:52enforcer today sir so i travel the country doing this just want to wait now now now the cat's out
09:59of the bag a little bit i travel the country doing this so be prepared to
10:05have to have to deal with this oh i'll leave it at that
10:13because i know what i'm talking about
10:19this is why i gave you my information under threat of arrest okay and now you're now you're just
10:25taking yourself a deeper hole well you want to you tried to backtrack out of it you tried to
10:28backtrack out of it i know and if i'm free to leave i'm free to stay so oh well you're
10:32not free to stay
10:33okay you're free to leave okay because if you refuse to leave then you're going to take a right
10:36leave to the county jail like i said this is why i asked for a supervisor okay that's fine he's
10:40on his
10:40way it's going to be meant to get here sounds good man if you decline you decline to want to
10:44speak
10:45to him at this point you want to leave you're welcome to do that okay the only keeping you here
10:50is you
10:53so you're not interested in writing a formal trespassing oh there'll be a formal trespass
10:56a report written for this but what i'm telling you is if you don't want to talk to my supervisor
11:00anymore you're free to leave and go home or go wherever you want to go okay thanks appreciate
11:04it again if i'm free leave okay that's what i'm saying you're free to leave if you want to stay
11:08and talk to my supervisor i'm going to remain here until he gets it yep okay because i'm going to
11:12assume
11:12that you want to make a make some sort of complaint about my performance which is perfectly fine
11:16it'll be more than a complaint but i'm not leaving here until you do oh yeah you want to bet
11:24you're gambling man i'm i'm not gambling no i didn't think so it's gonna go okay okay i'm not
11:29here to try to antagonize i'm not here to try to try it oh you're not telling you what's what's
11:33going to happen if you make one decision one way or the other perfect okay so but i'm not leaving
11:39here we will definitely see
11:55how long has he been here i've been rolling in here for 40 minutes 40 minutes
12:00i'm probably out there for another 10 15 maybe
12:12i'm glad she's stuck around for a free education too
12:19you know what the statute for trespassing is in south carolina
12:23not straight off the top of my head no that's unfortunate so you're going to enforce laws that
12:27you don't know i don't know the statute number right off the top of my head do you know what
12:30it
12:30says yeah yeah what does it say in roundabout way basically it says that
12:36refusal to leave upon request is trespassed that's on private property
12:42and again is this private or public okay is the popular public or private that's private it's private
12:47yeah okay so like a walmart right that's private it's private right okay now who is this who is this
12:54building owned by its own as far as i know by the state right it's not by the state i'm
12:59sorry i said
13:00by the state but it's operated by the united states government right government employees yeah dude you
13:06don't know what you're talking about you don't know what you're talking about this is why i called the
13:09supervisor hopefully he does okay that's fine he'll be here shortly
13:22told you this guy told you this would be a good one though guys
13:48uh they've requested him believe he's refused to do so um when i made contact with him
13:54he's given me uh he's displaying first amendment ideology um oh that darn thing that pesky little
14:02thing right there called the constitution take it easy man
14:09you're welcome not yet he's remaining here he can also speak to you or a supervisor
14:19he's been explained but he's been explained at this point that i've already spoken to the employees
14:22they want to remove some property and they would they would prosecute if it went that far but
14:28uh yeah he wants to remain here to speak to his supervisor
14:42sounds good enough
14:49so why post office okay there you go and i'll be right back there's plenty of government going
14:54around why you choose the red bank post office to what but there's plenty of government buildings
14:59around then why choose the red bank post office
15:09you don't have an answer i'm just not going to give one okay
15:30you don't have an answer i identify as uh transgender
15:55you know what i'm talking about a what first amendment auditor i like i said man i'm just
16:00out here making travel videos i'm not even sure what that is so
16:04i just i don't i don't know okay i don't understand why you're doing what you're doing but
16:10it's all fine by me man
16:25i'm not gonna stand here and explain myself to the gi joe fool as yourself
16:47so what's the first amendment auditor
16:57what's the first amendment auditor or individuals that like to walk into government run buildings
17:03and facilities and video and photograph government workers basically they say that they're there to
17:12ensure that government agencies and employees are doing the things that they're supposed to do
17:20so what's your thought on those kind of things i'm sorry i've never seen one of those personally
17:24myself but what's your what's your thought on one of those
17:27what's your thought on those things i don't know what's your thought on those things
17:30interesting to a point
17:33it doesn't have its limits oh yeah like what
17:38well in this particular instance they've asked you to leave the premises and you refuse to do so
17:43which is in violation of state law okay which one is that
18:00is your body cam going right now
18:07so how do those first amendment auditing videos usually end this guy's going to jail
18:17yeah that's cool i'll have to check one of those out sometime
18:29were those socks a gift or did you buy those
18:34i'm just wondering you're a little young for mtv curiosity kills the cat man
18:45oh i shouldn't say you're too young for you're too young for
18:47that is true you got that right
18:57you should know how old i am i gave you my information on the threat of arrest
19:10is it not sunk in yet i'm sorry has it not sunk in yet what are you talking about
19:16yeah i'm sweet i didn't get your information on the threat of arrest oh you didn't no you could
19:20just walk down thank god we have video man thank god thank god okay but i just told what i
19:25told you
19:26was i was writing a report for a trespass notice okay i took your information so i could write the
19:30report information in there so when we sure if we find you in this problem well this is why i
19:34asked
19:34you very specifically okay if i don't leave are you going to arrest me
19:41no like i said you're free to walk out of here i know and if i'm free to stay i'm
19:45free to do that
19:46i'm free to go i'm free to stay man well you're not free to stay you're free to wait for
19:50my supervisor
19:51this is what i'm doing no staying and waiting for your supervisor exactly okay correct i'm not leaving
19:57here until you do okay we'll see another backtrack right there
20:03it says you don't put much thought into what you say and do
20:11you gotta think about what you're doing
20:19maybe your supervisor knows
20:29man
20:33all these people
20:44i'm walking in just a longer line going
20:48it's a while there we go real classy
20:52i'm sorry
21:00i seem to know a lot about it
21:13you should stick around and get a free education man something you should have taken advantage of
21:16back back in public school i could it shows trust me
21:22i don't know about that about that yeah all right
21:33can i actually ask you a question
21:35if you're going to do something about my house um i live right over now south lake
21:44i'm looking to build any firearms
21:48like a uh
21:49yeah but i wouldn't take this guy's legal advice okay i wouldn't
21:58be able to do something about that yeah yeah don't the only thing that i mean do it safely okay
22:03obviously you don't want to have it right
22:04i have to my mom said i'm having to bring anything
22:06you know open land behind yeah
22:08yes sir
22:11he's inside
22:13yes sir
22:21no he's just standing here next to the mail
22:24the the form box and just filming everything
22:37so what's going on
22:41but no yeah you can shoot off
22:48doesn't want to answer that one
22:51basically
22:52finally we have somebody working again
22:55finally
23:00oh my goodness this guy was here when i first got here
23:03oh he was working for the post i mean uh
23:06yeah the passport that's right
23:13interesting
23:19st andrews road up there um we'd have a gentleman that would like us play loud music
23:23like two o'clock in the afternoon we'd get home from work
23:25not necessarily a bad thing the issue was it would what he had a neighbor that lived next
23:29right across the street from him that had a two-month-old child
23:33and then when they would play the music it would get the kid on his nap so
23:40oh
23:41now he's coming
23:44finally took long enough
23:54john this is sergeant steel he's a patrol sergeant
23:56how you doing nice to meet you
23:59yeah i just uh i just wanted to see what was what was going on because i got my information
24:04taken under threat of arrest for staying here if i wasn't gonna leave so i gave it to him and
24:10uh
24:10i'm not sure if we're gonna write out a formal trespass or if i'm gonna be uh
24:13have my rights intact today
24:21there's the first time he's gonna leave while i stay here
24:41i don't know
24:45i don't know
24:54i don't know
25:16And I'm sorry, I didn't catch your name in the badge number.
25:18Still, badge number?
25:20551.
25:20551?
25:20Thank you, Mr. Still.
25:21Appreciate that.
25:37I appreciate the professionalism from you.
25:48I'm not.
25:50I'm from Boston, actually.
25:51I'm from Boston.
25:51I'm from Boston.
25:52I'm from Boston.
25:52Not really, but you know.
25:56It is what it is, man.
25:57You want to sell me a little something?
25:59You want to sell me a little something?
26:09I need to clear my phone, guys.
26:14I just ran out of storage on my other one.
26:38Yeah, I live here now.
26:41Yeah, I live, I'm riding the family plan to the wheel fall off, man.
26:45Yeah, saving up money.
26:47You know how it goes.
26:54Take it easy, man.
27:01Do you live in the city or just like on the Oscars?
27:03What do you mean?
27:04Like, of Aiken?
27:05No, Boston.
27:06Oh, on the Oscars.
27:07I was in a suburb.
27:10I had a friend of mine.
27:11I used to work for the railroad.
27:12He worked in, it was somewhere like southern Massachusetts.
27:18He would take stuff into Boston to work industries.
27:21Oh, okay.
27:22Drive cars off them.
27:25You know, there's different plants and businesses and stuff like that.
27:27That's cool.
27:28That's cool.
27:30That's cool.
27:31Nice.
27:35If you can live up there and work for a few years, you make a very different wage up there.
27:41I'll tell you that.
27:42Well, that's the only thing about the railroad I missed is the wage.
27:44Right.
27:45But I lost probably about 15 to 20% of it every month just on union wages and stuff like
27:52that.
27:52Sure.
27:53Oh, so you used to be an officer out there?
27:55No.
27:55No?
27:55I worked as an actual train conductor.
28:00Just take trains from place to place, you know, taking the industries and stuff like
28:04that.
28:04Nice.
28:06Interesting.
28:23So what made you want to do this?
28:24Uh, well, I, so, I started working, I just got tired of managing the railroad.
28:29Okay.
28:30Sure.
28:30Fortune, CXX is a Fortune 500 company.
28:33So that's one of those deals where-
28:35You're the little guy, man.
28:36Well, they got bought out by a hedge fund.
28:38Oh, so now you're really the little guy.
28:40So they've got a plumber of a multi-billionaire.
28:42Right.
28:42So they've got a lot of companies and basically do a non-
28:44Cut the bottom line, stuff like that.
28:46Well, not cut the bottom line.
28:47They're more looking after stock, you know, stock shareholders and they were actually
28:50a little bit of employees and things like that.
28:53Customers.
28:54The idea is basically to do, to cut as much of the fat off the company.
29:00Right.
29:00Yep.
29:01So they're, they're all very profitable.
29:04Right.
29:04Even though business may not necessarily be good, it still makes them heavy profit.
29:10Um, I've told him that you have a right to do what you're doing.
29:12Correct.
29:13Um, you can stay here, do your filming and stuff.
29:15You won't, you won't, uh, do you have a business store?
29:18Come out of course.
29:19I'll give you both our names.
29:20I can even do a case number four years.
29:21It'll be easier if you want to do it.
29:22Appreciate that.
29:23Awesome.
29:25That was definitely the next step.
29:28I don't have these seats here, but I'm going to put my name right here.
29:30It's all right.
29:31Can I just get another one just in case?
29:33Sure.
29:33Appreciate it.
29:33All right.