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Jeremy White and Joe DiBiase kick things off on Tuesday morning by discussing the Buffalo Bills impressive 23-6 victory over the Minnesota Vikings on Monday Night Football that improved their record to 7-1 and keeps them atop the AFC. They praise the offense for finding their way to a decent day against the best defensive unit in the league, and highlight the defense's solid performance. The defensive success is qualified by the fact that Carson Wentz had a historically poor day at QB.
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00:00uh i had to finish my tweet which was this is something that's fun to do today we don't often
00:05get to do this with the vikings good morning everybody happy victory tuesday you know football
00:10monday it's uh brought to you by tim hortons the official coffee of the jeremy and joe morning show
00:15on wgr start your day strong with tim hortons and the bills uh my favorite thing right now
00:21is to look you know if you go on youtube and you check out post game shows yeah what are
00:26they
00:27titling the shows in minnesota what's that headline say what can i give you one that is
00:33your score to beat in the clubhouse the the the headline on the youtube thumbnail for
00:38locked on vikings is just embarrassing all caps all caps okay and then the sub headline is
00:47apocalypse by carson wentz i actually know i did apocalypse i did see a graphic maybe i don't
00:53know if it was a podcast or youtube or something but it was the graphic with
00:57wentz on it and the the headline said catastrophe yeah yeah yeah catastrophe apocalypse holy cow uh
01:05the entire organization is wondering what to do but whatever but they can have their own problems
01:10the bills are seven and one they did the job i think that was a you know maybe a little
01:15bit messy
01:15along the way but i thought that was a really nice win for the bills the offense showed you that
01:22they can find ways against a great defense and it's almost like the first half proved to us
01:28minnesota really is a great defense that would travel and give anybody a tough time and they
01:34hold the bills to 23 which is good if you hold the bills to 23 you did a good job
01:40and they did that so
01:41good job the vikings great job to the bills offense missing their entire left side of their line
01:47still finding a way to grind out those yards you know i think if we're being honest the game script
01:53for the bills they're allowed to run it 30 times because they know minnesota's not going to score
02:00many points here so right like everything about it i never felt like it was ever any sort of in
02:08danger no way no how except when the fumble on the one yard line happened then i thought we're
02:13going to get a stupid game i thought like that could be the game i didn't know the bills at
02:17that
02:17point had had like 30 yards of offense on five drives i didn't know that they would be able to
02:23score yet i thought they'd find their way they'd get there they almost always do but that was that's
02:29right and that was a game where again if if the vikings get the ball to one you'd think they
02:34get in
02:34but no guarantee i know that's that's really is no i mean carson wentz could have been sacked back to
02:39the 20 or he could have just thrown it to you like the next play no really no guarantee so
02:43when that play gets overturned i think like all right it's it's the bills day whatever the vikings
02:49had a bunch of mistakes they had some of the worst quarterback play we've seen in the league
02:54we could debate if it was worse than joe finiano it really might have been some of the advanced
02:59numbers on it say it was pretty bad so you know if you want to take a little bit away
03:04from the
03:04defense because of that you can if you want to take a lot you can i thought the defense played
03:08a
03:08pretty good game and did the job and you know job well done for the bills they did it they
03:13did what
03:13they needed to do and they're seven and one yeah i was i did have concern i because even yesterday
03:22i
03:23finally got to like okay wait a minute like i know marita wentz feels more dangerous but like it is
03:28still wentz wentz like wentz this guy who hasn't been a starter in five years and the last time he
03:34was
03:34he was a disaster always would give you the ball he's a crash test dummy in the back pocket he
03:40gets
03:40hit around all the time that happened last night he got i mean he got stepped on by his own
03:45lineman
03:45rousseau was hitting him in the arm yeah and it looks like his hand is hurt like he he's just
03:50he's
03:51not a starting quarterback in the nfl but that game is beginning and i was i think maybe just because
03:57of last year last year you had the houston atlanta atlanta games even miami sure but those two games
04:05specifically maybe just because they're you know well i guess atlanta's nfc houston's not but great
04:09but houston was a backup quarterback and it was the backup quarterback that gives them a little bit of
04:15life and maybe that's all they need because the defense is great and the bills i mean they're opening
04:20drives and what they got it was minus 11 31 23 minus one minus three one like those are your
04:30first
04:31few drives i wasn't sure they were going to get there and i think that's a credit though to what
04:36minnesota's rep is yep that's the best defense in football like you will not see a defense like that
04:42again in part because nobody's ever played like them before they were blitzing the hell out of the
04:47they did not change because it was josh it was uh 79 of ellen's dropbacks right like they they did
04:53what they normally do yep and it was working early and i think the other part of it was not
04:59knowing
04:59they would get there was the left side of the line like how big a problem was that going to
05:04be all day
05:04grayball and corbett and they even got there too a little bit i'm impressed yeah like the fact they
05:11got to 23 points i'm really impressed by the offense like all of it kind of got there right
05:17the screen game worked when they did it that allen found his big plays right ty johnson's open down the
05:24sideline he puts it that's a that's a pass that wentz was not making last night although i think he
05:29did make that pass one time and jefferson didn't didn't come down with it but whatever like allen got
05:34his plays the run game got going enough and them getting to 23 points well i'm impressed this is
05:41one of those spots where i'm not telling you to not be impressed because again i am impressed with
05:45the the bills win they had a drives of 84 yards right 15 plays 84 yards 14 plays 83 yards
05:52and 8 plays
05:5380 yards right so they didn't have short field position gifts all night only at the start at the
06:00start that's right that's right on the russo uh fumble recovery and the kick the kick return
06:03to that said 23 points you know there's some games where 23 points is a lot and there's some
06:09games where 23 points is not a lot they had is it 12 or 13 possessions last night so 23
06:16on 13
06:17possessions for the bills that's actually job well done minnesota if i'm in minnesota today i'm telling
06:22you this defense is good enough to win the super bowl because we just held the bills to two points
06:27per drive and teams don't do that to the bills so whatever it was it was a nice performance from
06:33them the the head coach the quarterback the running back the offensive line i mean everybody deserves a
06:38lot of credit on how that game went maybe they hit a deep touchdown to dj moore if byron murphy
06:43doesn't make i guess one of the plays of the year he left the guy he was supposed to be
06:48covering he left
06:49his deep third and went over and made a micah hide style play yep or there's a play i'm thinking
06:55about
06:55maybe it's miami a few years ago someone did something just like this where it's forget my
07:00guy i think i know what the play is and went and made an incredible play so credit to byron
07:05murphy
07:05so we'll talk about it with you the win itself seven and one the one seed chase the bills are
07:12in the driver's seat had they lost it would have been denver in first place but the bills are in
07:17the
07:17driver's seat and you know now it's the dolphins and the jets jets and then dolphins jets and then
07:23dolphins and then chiefs and i just feel like you got to be happy with where the team is you
07:28got to
07:29be excited about the potential to get the one seed and i think people should be excited about the
07:34deadline today the gm is going to do something there's far too much he'll never do it he doesn't
07:42know how to do it here far too much of that has he been timid or a little bit too
07:49cautious in the
07:49past sure sure last year stands out as a big one but you know and what what have you done
07:56for me
07:56lately kind of moment he's gonna do something today i would bet even money buddha baker's on
08:01this roster next week whoo right yeah everybody keeps saying buddha baker egg are not eggman bucks
08:08said he last night he said they talked with joe brady and uh brandon bean and he kind of feels
08:12like
08:12it might be buddha baker like okay so let's just get that thing done they're gonna trade for buddha
08:16great it'll probably cost less than jesse bates and you shore up a position that you know you need
08:23help at maybe you feel better about linebacker after yesterday because terrell bernard and dorian
08:28williams made great plays granted it's against a bad quarterback but the williams pick especially
08:33was great like he's in coverage one-on-one step for step with hawkinson like sure that's like you
08:39are i sewed up like this is where like defense is going to be really tough to evaluate like i
08:44just
08:44looked to see you know this morning like well are they going to see another defense like that
08:49minnesota like is that the last time they'll see it and like oh there's jacksonville right there at
08:54the top of the league and i don't scroll down too far i'm like oh wait a minute the bills
08:58now are the
08:59fifth best defense in the afc by epa per play hmm that seems like that's skewed a little bit big
09:05time the last two weeks would do some work they're the fifth best defense in the afc but but i'm
09:09looking
09:10in and thinking about like individual plays like no terrell bernard gets the ball thrown right to
09:16him i don't really consider that like oh you want to play by terrell bernard like you got given a
09:22gift he actually got given another two gifts that he did that he didn't catch but when they run four
09:27verts and oh my linebackers got to cover their tight end one-on-one 30 yards down the field he's
09:31a
09:32pretty good tight end and he's able to do it like okay i'll count that as something that was pretty
09:36good i'll count finishing it making the catch it's a tough catch to make but chances are i mean
09:40aikman was all over wentz on that play basically saying like this has to be a completion like you've
09:44got exactly what you want he's got to step on him and the throw's too short so it was too
09:48short i mean
09:49but he was he made he was right there like he made it that had to be a perfect he's
09:53eyes up he makes
09:54the play he completes the catch it was it was a great you see the dots on that play by
09:57the way i did
09:58you see what was happening on the left side yeah i think jefferson was one-on-one with geno stone
10:02okay
10:04got away with you know i wentz was just he was so bad he was so bad he was the
10:10play that we just
10:11referenced where he threw it right to bernard and bernard didn't catch it they showed it on the espn
10:15broadcast who's four for minnesota is like their fourth receiver rice rice okay he is not jerry
10:21there there's no one near him on the left side of the field like he had 30 yards to run
10:28if he wanted
10:28it and wentz never saw him for a second just that guy was never beating the bills last night and
10:34he
10:34hurt his hand and couldn't complete passes even when a guy was open he would just bounce the ball
10:38to guys it was it was rough oh the the check down was it the first half there was a
10:43check down to
10:44jordan mason it's a five yard pass and he put it in the ground yeah like maybe right at that
10:49pass we
10:50should have been like oh man this is they're not gonna have to do much to beat this guy we'll
10:55talk
10:55about it with you 8030550 while it's bills vikings and a victory tuesday the talk of the tables as
11:02brought to you by treasure cave the official cheese of the bills is probably what the jags did yesterday
11:06in the trade market adding jordan davis and jesse bates and another depth defensive lineman
11:12got shaw's his name yeah and that's three defensive players the jaguars had they spend big big draft
11:18capital to do it not everyone loves the moves bates is pretty much universally accepted as a good move
11:24but jordan davis whether it's eagles twitter or whatever but not everybody thinks that's a good
11:30move for jacksonville that's a first and a second round pick for a run stuffing defensive tackle who
11:34comes off the field on third down so i mean it's not quite your jeffrey simmons but whatever
11:40jacksonville spends picks to try and keep their window open now and become a complete defense and
11:47come and and get better and bills fans during that news that broke yesterday a lot of them were
11:54jealous or ready to see what their gm's gonna whip up so four o'clock today the tread dead lot
11:59trade
12:00deadline i think they're going to trade for budda baker maybe it's amani hooker i don't know whichever's
12:04the better fit i'll let one of the film guys tell me who's the better fit but i think they'll
12:09add
12:09it safety and it'll feel pretty good when they do so we'll talk about it with you at 8030550 sean
12:14and
12:15st paul who was uh at the game hey sean hey guys how's it going good morning sorry my voice
12:21is
12:21still at u.s bank um i was at the game yesterday actually i just dropped off my buddy at
12:27the airport
12:28uh shout out to mike from sports city um but uh the game was a was a huge huge success
12:37uh a lot of fun
12:39i'll say right now you could hear a pin drop in that in a famously loud stadium after that uh
12:47that ruling with the lateral throw um but a lot of fun i will give a shout out to vikings
12:54fandom
12:55the it was my first time going to a vikings game uh the skull chant and everything lives up to
13:01the hype
13:01um but yeah i mean this is a lights out defense and you just kind of put him through a
13:08slow burn
13:09with james cook and it paid off and uh it looked pretty ugly from carson wentz who may have won
13:18the
13:18game for us um but uh yeah like like you were saying jeremy i'm really excited to see what brandon
13:25bean does today uh it's not really motivated by rage or anger or or jealousy or any way like i
13:35just
13:35gotta see something in response to that jacksonville team and after a win yesterday i think it's just
13:41it's whatever they do i i'm ready to rally behind it honestly so thanks sean bill and uh yeah good
13:49morning i'm not normally up at this time all right all right glad you enjoyed the game yeah on the
13:54deadline i listened a lot middays yesterday brad and owen talking about the trade deadline stuff and
14:00you know plenty on the game today call us on the game call us on the game deadline will be
14:04i think
14:04a lot of today because it is today and as brad and owen were discussing you know whether or not
14:08the bills should make a move and this and this and this um and what it really means and how
14:12much
14:12they really need to make one versus being a seven one seven and one team and basically for me it
14:18comes down to this today's the last day for the gm to really do something that's what the
14:22deadline is is the last day your gm can make one more finishing touch before entering their cake
14:28into the competition right i watched a great the british baking show i can tell well this is it hey
14:33you got one minute remaining do you want to fix anything up real quick before the judges come in
14:38and tell you who's got the best cake yeah because the jaguars made some finishing touches and you should
14:44make some finishing touches if you don't that's your decision not making a move is saying we don't need
14:50to make a move and plenty of teams don't make moves you know there's there's tons of uh i don't
14:56know
14:56scaredy cats out there i'm going to use that phrase why not they'll tell you making a move and then
15:01you
15:01lose it's going to paralyze you or this you know not making a move is your move and there are
15:07plenty
15:07of teams that have not done something not done something at the last minute we never find out what
15:12those things are and they lose too so i feel like you know in the josh allen era in this
15:18window
15:18a seven-on-one team even if it's just to get them to the one if i were to tell
15:23you that a third round
15:25pick would get them the one seed it's almost impossible to tell you that would you take it
15:29not the super bowl the one you spend a third round pick and that little tweak to your defense is
15:34going to
15:34finish the job and get you the one seed worth it yeah home field and an extra playoff win
15:39basically built in yeah i think it's worth it so there's no way to know that and of course like
15:44what the bills would do internally with their numbers and what's worth it what's not but i remain
15:49optimistic even convinced that they will do something today yeah i'm pretty sure also it's
15:55and they don't have to be as aggressive as jacksonville i mean would it be fun if they were
16:01sure we've been asking all week you know after since really the jeffrey simmons trade what's the idea
16:08that's out there that's that level that's gonna cost me a first round pick and then another first
16:13round pick and i know he went what did davis went for first in a second yeah so like close
16:17enough
16:17it was jordan davis maybe that's who shefter was talking by about all the time like yesterday like
16:23oh someone that no one's thinking about it's gonna get moved maybe first in a second jordan davis
16:27i'd have been all right i've been furious if the bills made that move by the same like i maybe
16:31not
16:31furious but whatever it would not have yeah same i would have been like right the third down he comes
16:37off the field right so basically what like biggest drive of the season the other quarterbacks coming
16:41down in the playoffs and he's not out there like because that that seems questionable he won't be
16:45out if the bills and jags play a playoff game that has been set up like a lot of these
16:50bills playoff
16:51losses in recent years where the bills are down by three in the final minute of the game in the
16:56playoff game and josh allen's got the ball and he's going down to score guess who's not on the field
17:00jordan davis right like right jesse bates is on the field but he is and a lot of their other
17:05very good
17:06defensive players on the field so maybe they feel like they need him in certain spots but
17:09so not not still big not every move is perfect i think that move is questionable because of who
17:14the player is i mean he's young that's why they're giving up that much because they're going to have
17:17him for five years right like that's going to be the plan he's not at rental um but i think
17:22the
17:22bigger thing here is that the the rams are in the afc now yeah like this guy gladstone who worked
17:28for
17:29the rams for a decade is just trying to do what the rams did he's bleeping he's saying bleep
17:34those picks i am trading them away i'm gonna win right now i don't care i'm gonna be late in
17:39the
17:39first round anyway i'm gonna be late in the second round whatever let me go get a star player and
17:44they're i guess they're done now but that mentality being in the conference is that's news i think and
17:51they're probably not going away the idea that like they're gonna be paralyzed because of these
17:55losing these picks i just don't buy that 8030550 an awful lot of well i don't trust trevor
18:03lawrence to win a super bowl maybe you don't maybe you don't did anyone trust sam darnold before
18:08last year did anyone trust jalen hurts jalen hurts did anyone trust matthew stafford before
18:15he won a super bowl or was it just like oh yeah there's good things there but you know we
18:19trust
18:19alan to be great in the playoffs and we'll see if he can get all the way and win all
18:24the games but
18:24i don't think i don't think that jacksonville being jacksonville is the kind of take that anybody
18:31actually in football can have you gotta do what you can to make sure you have enough pieces to
18:37cover all the all the guys jacksonville has they're pretty good team maybe they're gonna trade brian
18:40thomas jr who knows 8030550 the bills again took the ball first that is their identity they're a team
18:48that takes the ball first because you have to play josh allen got a gig got a big kick return
18:53and then
18:54you know sacked out a field goal range that it didn't kill them it was disappointing but it didn't
18:58kill them and i think there's actually a point to be made about taking the ball first when it
19:02comes to field possession like field position because now with the new kickoff rules you're
19:06gonna get a good spot on the field you get the 35 if i get one first down and then
19:12i go out i'm
19:13pinning you deep in your first possession you're gonna be inside the 15 the 10 so field position
19:19has changed i wonder if teams start to you know change what they do everybody defers pretty much
19:23except the bills who like to take the ball and i don't think it's going terribly i think it's just
19:28it's going fine it's fine it's fine mo in new jersey hey mo hey good morning guys happy victory
19:35tuesday um i'm just as excited as everybody else with that win but i one thing i hope is like
19:43i know
19:43we've played really good on defense the past couple of weeks i really hope that like they don't see
19:48this as hey you know defense is better we don't need to make a move uh we play two terrible
19:52quarterbacks
19:53and we got two terrible teams coming up i personally i'm happy with what we're seeing
19:58from the defense but i i'm still not sold on what this defense can do there's still some pieces that
20:03can be got in my opinion safety linebacker i really hope to get hooker or uh a buddabaker type
20:12of player um and i don't want a bargain basement kind of guys like beans um his ability to trade
20:19at
20:19a deadline his track record is not the greatest let's be honest he doesn't really doesn't make
20:23any big deals but then again i don't know if there are a lot of big deals that can be
20:27had but that
20:28doesn't excuse him from not doing anything or zach bond like i watched that guy play on sunday
20:33because those didn't plan sunday he was all over the field for the eagles i i want them to i
20:38listen i i
20:39know it may be just because i told what the jaguars didn't make them get a little jealous
20:44of what they've done and they're trying to help their quarterback get to next level by making the
20:49defense better you know or if it's getting another wide receiver it doesn't matter i want the ability
20:53to do something i just want to see them put in that effort and you know say hey this is
20:57this is our
20:58time so here we have the one seed right now let's not lose that grip on the one seed because
21:03we lose
21:03a stupid game in the middle oh yeah middle or end of the season and the jaguars or the broncos
21:07jump ahead of
21:08us and now we're playing the afc championship at somebody else's house you know what i mean so
21:12i'm really happy with the win i'm anxiously awaiting to see what the trade deadline brings
21:16but let's go bills thanks mo well i mean if the bills do stumble and lose one more game
21:22the other teams could stumble too i mean the bills do play denver they play the bears and they're in
21:28the afc but they play they play the chiefs and the broncos both those teams are one loss behind
21:34with the one seed if they were to go to christmas day and lose to denver then denver's in first
21:40and
21:40you know it is what it is so we've got a long way to get there and in terms of
21:46the defense you know i
21:48i've heard a little bit of that where i hope that the gm isn't convinced all of a sudden the
21:52defense is
21:52good and doesn't make a move and who knows you know what he thinks about it but i might be
21:58more
21:58inclined to think hey it's not as bad as i thought things have come together one more piece would
22:05really shine this thing up and maybe we can get to a top 10 defense that seems within reach now
22:10that yeah do you want another pass rusher instead of bradley chubb that might be the move you could
22:17find that but it's probably more likely safety like hooker or baker there was a minute there when benford
22:23there was the tweets coming out that benford was getting carted off the field in the second
22:27quarter scary that i'm like oh they might need to trade for a corner yep the point about they
22:33are getting fat on these two quarterbacks that they've played of course there is tons of merit
22:40to that like they are now the 14th best defense in football by epa per play that's because of the
22:45last two games yep like almost 100 but it could just be the schedule working out the way it did
22:52like i'm looking real quick at the there are only four afc teams better than them on
22:57defense and like who are the quarterbacks that they've played and pretty much all of
23:02those teams have played one or two games against teams where the quarterback is just like a total
23:08joke like pittsburgh's the second best defense in the afc get they got so much off cooper rush
23:14in week one and when they played deshaun watson twice and daniel jones and maybe those guys are
23:19a little bit above what the bills just faced jacksonville just played funyano right like they have a game
23:24playing against them kansas city this year i'm looking at their schedule and like they have
23:30malik willis malik willis daniel jones like cousins threw for 365 on them yeah darnold threw all over
23:36them like herbert is another one they got fat on but you know like maybe the bills have two of
23:42these
23:42games and a lot of these other defenses have one right now but getting fat off a bad quarterback is
23:48not it's not weird a lot of the great defenses have a couple games every year where that happens
23:548030550 victory tuesday join us we've got an open line for you 8030550 get you everything we need to
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24:06one stat of the game for you the vikings were 0 for 8 on third down and over 2 on
24:11fourth down so
24:12when the bills got them in a good spot they finished the job 0 for 8 on third down 8030550
24:19your phone calls the one seed the deadline the jags what they did the bears what they did and whether
24:27or not the bills would feel like something similar could happen maybe there's a big name out there we
24:32aren't thinking about that could be moved i'd imagine if that happens today's the day this morning's
24:37the morning to see some of those names floated so i joe am excited to fantasize about 35 different
24:44trades we'll see which one comes through jeremy and sneaky joe here on wgr
24:48you
24:50you